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1. 06:03 AM - Re: Changer Options (jtholley03)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Yup - something's wrong (jtholley03)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Changer Options (jtholley03)
4. 09:34 AM - Re: Changer Options (Roland M)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: Changer Options (CSMCGRN)
6. 09:51 AM - Re: Changer Options (Roland M)
7. 10:01 AM - Re: Changer Options (Roland M)
8. 10:16 AM - Re: Changer Options (Scott Thibault)
9. 10:20 AM - Re: Yup - something's wrong (Roland M)
10. 10:22 AM - Re: Changer Options (Scott Thibault)
11. 10:55 AM - Re: Changer Options (jtholley03@adelphia.net)
12. 11:04 AM - Re: Yup - something's wrong (jtholley03@adelphia.net)
13. 05:39 PM - Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! (bobbybraun@comcast.net)
14. 05:44 PM - Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
15. 05:47 PM - Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! (Scott Thibault)
16. 06:08 PM - Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! (bobbybraun@comcast.net)
17. 08:26 PM - Re: Changer Options (Roland M)
18. 08:28 PM - Re: Changer Options (Roland M)
19. 08:33 PM - Re: Yup - something's wrong (Roland M)
20. 08:39 PM - Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! (Roland M)
21. 08:58 PM - Re: Changer Options (Scott Thibault)
22. 09:05 PM - Re: Changer Options (telmnstr@757.org)
23. 09:08 PM - Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! (bobbybraun@comcast.net)
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03 <jtholley03@adelphia.net>
On 4/9/06 10:15 PM, "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> wrote:
> XA-110IP
Thanks for the info on the XA-110IP! I bought the XA-100 not knowing that
this existed. I will get one of these for my Ipod.
jtholley03
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| Subject: | Re: Yup - something's wrong |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03 <jtholley03@adelphia.net>
> Jim, did you solve this problem?
No not yet. Everything is a wreck in progress. I still haven't run my 2/0 to
the back. I was looking at fused options but they are so current limited. I
have been looking into conduit etc. I have everything piled in the passenger
floor right now.
> If not, do you have an optical cable connected to the XDP from the C90 and
> also analog RCAs going from the C90 to the XDP?
No. I have buslink and RCA to the XDP4000X.
> Do you have the XA-300 connected in the UniLink line directly from the HU
> (and then the XDP connected to the XA-300)
No - I didn't realize I could do this?
> or do you have the C90 connected directly to the XDP and then the XA connected
> to the changer port on the XDP?
This is the way I have it!
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03 <jtholley03@adelphia.net>
Meant the XA-300
On 4/10/06 9:01 AM, "jtholley03" <jtholley03@adelphia.net> wrote:
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03 <jtholley03@adelphia.net>
>
> On 4/9/06 10:15 PM, "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> XA-110IP
>
> Thanks for the info on the XA-110IP! I bought the XA-100 not knowing that
> this existed. I will get one of these for my Ipod.
>
> jtholley03
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Randy Visentine" <randyman@gmail.com>
>
>Hey,
>
>Does anyone know the story with Sony's Sony XAV-A1? It has Unilink for an
>external TV-Tuner, but will it control a XDP-4000x? I doubt it. Anyone
>know
>for sure?
>
>Linky: http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_XAV_A1/4505-3426_7-31424074.html
>
>Why on EARTH would Sony NOT support the XDP-4000x? It would be a perfect
>"Upgrade" path for those of us that don't want to let go of the XDP-4000x
>and an optically connected Changer, but would love to have MP3 capability
>and a 7" Display! I doubt Sony would do something that smart :-) . So, we
>stick with the C90, and Sony does not see any more cash...
>
Hmm, it makes perfect sense to *us* but to Sony, the XDP-4000X was
discontinued long ago and with it any new products supporting it. If
anything Sony would have to make some new XDP unit perhaps with DD/DTS
decoding and perhaps SACD as well. (Though SACD is pretty much dead by now
anyway.) But, they aren't going to be in any rush to do even that. Seems
external processors in car audio have long gone "out of style" and aren't
something the mainstream market even considers. Surely there is still a
small market for high-end products that utilise separate components, but the
money probably just isn't there for them to bother. Ceeding that particular
market to companies like Alpine seems disappointing but considering Sony
does far more business than car A/V (whereas Alpine does very little more
than that) I guess it just doesn't make sense to them. Though Sony may not
see anymore cash from you, you can bet they are raking it in otherwise, LOL!
Anyway, at least Sony's mainstream offerings have improved markedly starting
in 2005. An interesting thing I noted with their 2006 models is that they
have now dropped the TI/Burr-Brown D/As they were using for the 2005 models.
Instead, they've gone with "DSP integrated" 24-bit D/A conversion and
proprietary DSP/system controller ICs. Certainly more efficient but I
wonder if the sound is better or worse, or if it makes much difference?
They're calling this "X-DSP with Time Alignment" and they're now including
EQ13 instead of the older EQ7, on some models.
It's likely no match for the XDP-4000X; but, truth be told, todays HUs at
least have the power/quality/features of my XDP-210EQ all built-into the HU
already. The only difference is that without any digital connections to
speak of, the only thing that gets all digital-domain processing is the HU
(and it's CD drive) itself, everything else goes
analog-->HU-->digitised-->analog-->amps. But if you think about it, most
people these days don't even buy CD changers. Sure most of us that use this
list have *multiple* changers, lol; but I think changer sales are a lot
lower than they once were--you can even tell by the number of models each
manufacturer has now. The main thing to be connected today is an iPod or
other portable DAP--by and large people just don't use CDs like they used
to.
Again though this doesn't really do much for anyone with a XDP-4kX, it seems
that mainstream decks have increased in sound quality/features. Other
manufacturers have done the same over the years, increasing feature sets
included in their HUs; though with Sony it seems they went through ~5 years
of producing absolute garbage to catch up, LOL.
Though I would definitely like to see them produce a successor XDP unit, I'd
still buy one of a number of today's better mainstream HUs produced by
various companies--they are at least a lot simpler to deal with, many of
them removing the need for external processing.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: CSMCGRN <csmcgrn@sbcglobal.net>
I have one of these Connects2 units hooked up to my c90/4000x system and it works
fine. sounds ok too, with WAV files on the HD3. Atrac3 is ok too, but not MP3.
you can control the hd3 from the head and also still from the player it self.
It does not however charge the hd3, so you will need a 12v ciggy lighter or similar
attachment to usb to charge it.
Mark
Randy Visentine <randyman@gmail.com> wrote:
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Randy Visentine"
Roland - you ROCK! I am researching the Sony Walkman + Unilink adaptor
right now, as well as the iPod-Unilink adaptor (I would have never
known!!!).
Thanks!!!
Randy V
Where's my Vodka???
On 4/9/06, Roland M wrote:
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M"
>
> > >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M"
> >The link should be:
> >https://www.connects2usa.com/products.php?id
> >
> >Roland M.
> >
>
> Somehow I've managed to post the link incorrectly *twice*!?!?!
>
> One more time:
>
> https://www.connects2usa.com/products.php?id
>
>
--
Randy V.
Houston, TX
Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03 <jtholley03@adelphia.net>
>
>Meant the XA-300
>
>
>On 4/10/06 9:01 AM, "jtholley03" <jtholley03@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03
><jtholley03@adelphia.net>
> >
> > On 4/9/06 10:15 PM, "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> XA-110IP
> >
> > Thanks for the info on the XA-110IP! I bought the XA-100 not knowing
>that
> > this existed. I will get one of these for my Ipod.
> >
> > jtholley03
>
>Still looking at the I-Pod Unilink adaptor (is this brand-new? I can't
>find
>it in stock), and the HD-3/5 adaptor. Has anyone actually used these
>Unilink devices with a C90? The description says "Compatible with select
>2000 and newer Sony Uniliny HU's" - wasn't that before the C90's time?
>
>Let me know any info
>
>Randy V.
>
>
To address both of the above, yes the XA-110IP is brand new--a 2006 model
from Sony. It isn't available just yet but should be very shortly.
I'm not sure about the compatibility of the XA-110IP, but Connects2's iPod
interface (ASOIPOD001 / MSC-02) should work with the C90. They've had
random incompatibility problems with certain UniLink HUs here and there, but
it should work. Connects2 products (bought through Crutchfield or even
Connects2 directly) have a return policy so if it doesn't work/do what you
want it to you can return it for a refund :)
I would think the Sony XA-110IP would work and they're just saying "2000 and
later" just to not have to deal with older units, but I have no idea really.
*Unlesss*....The only thing I can think of is that they *might* have used
that oh-so-stupid "ID3 Text" business that their MX (MP3-CD) changers use.
You know the text that is neither transmitted to the HU via MD Text nor
CD-Text and is only compatible with 2000 and later HUs? LOL. It might be
that.
However, the Connects2 adapters use CD-Text so as long as your HU supports
CD-Text then you're fine.
As there was a downside to using the Walkman-Unilink adapter (no Line-Out),
there is also a downside to using the iPod adapter.
Now I'm unsure if Sony has done anything different than Connects2 but if you
think about UniLink to begin with it doesn't really have the facility to
handle something like browsing through a DAP. First of all, all you have
for "browsing" at all is the 8-char. CustomFile through the "LIST-up"
feature and who knows how many albums (CDs) that's limited to because all
Sony's ever had was a max of 10 CDs in a changer.
So that's a problem either with the iPod or the Walkman interface. Going
through albums with album +/- is a real pain.
*BUT* the iPod makes this even more difficult... With the Walkman adapter,
though the Walkman locks out line-out mode, it doesn't lock out the controls
on the unit--you're free to browse about on the player as you would normally
and that easily makes up for the lack of "browsability" on the HU.
However the iPod doesn't work like that! The iPod because of it's design,
locks out something perhaps more important--the controls! iPod has two
remote modes--Simple and Full. In order to get text/data from the iPod to
go on the HU, the iPod *must* be accessed in Full remote mode. But when in
full remote mode the iPod disables it's controls. Therefore you can't
navigate on the iPod itself, only on the HU which only allows Album +/- and
not really much else for navigating through your music.
The only alternative to this (if control on the iPod is still desired) is to
not have any text/data displayed on the HU (but retain simple controls like
track +/-, etc.) and use the Simple remote mode. Connects2 has also
released another iPod adapter that does just this, it is the ASOIPOD002.
Using this you get simple controls and no text or data (track number/time
are not displayed either). That's the UK number though and I'm unsure if
their US division stocks or sells that model.
(Note that Sony's XA-110IP, if it displays text, must operate in Full remote
mode and therefore controls on the iPod will be disabled.)
So either way you have trade-offs, unfortunately. With a Sony Walkman you
lose line-out. With the iPod you can either choose between text/data and
poor navigation (on the HU only) or no text/data and the ability to navigate
on the iPod (which IMO you might as well just use AUX input if you're going
to do that). Note that all of these limitations are actually limitations of
the portable devices and not really poor design of the interfaces--there's
just no way around those things.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: CSMCGRN <csmcgrn@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I have one of these Connects2 units hooked up to my c90/4000x system and it
>works fine. sounds ok too, with WAV files on the HD3. Atrac3 is ok too, but
>not MP3.
>
? You can't put WAV files on an HD3, it doesn't suport them. (I have two
HD3s so I'm pretty sure of this). If you're putting WAVs on through
SonicStage, be assured they are being converted to ATRAC3/3plus first. MP3
files sound great on the HD3 IMO, with good MP3 files at least. And I've
never read any reports/reviews otherwise, regarding it's MP3 capability. It
handles pretty much every MP3 you throw at it too, CBR, ABR, or VBR provided
it's 44.1kHz stereo. It also does ATRAC3 and ATRAC3plus but not WMA or WAV
(or any other formats) without conversion first. ATRAC3plus is arguably
better than MP3 as well, offering bitrates up to 352kbps (MP3 is limited to
320kbps).
> you can control the hd3 from the head and also still from the player it
>self. It does not however charge the hd3, so you will need a 12v ciggy
>lighter or similar attachment to usb to charge it.
>
> Mark
>
No unfortunately (again a limitation by the HD3 itself rather than the
interface as the dock connection offers no audio) the interface cannot
charge the HDx unit; though the iPod interfaces do charge/power the iPod.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Thibault <tbone7467@yahoo.com>
will any of them work with video that is what I am interested in doing.
Roland M <mdx400@hotmail.com> wrote: --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland
M"
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M"
>Somehow I've managed to post the link incorrectly *twice*!?!?!
>
>One more time:
>
>https://www.connects2usa.com/products.php?id
Link is still wrong??? :( :(
Apparently it isn't me, for some reason it is getting the "=20" of "id=20"
cutoff at the end??? Show up when I post but not when I get the email.
Weird.
Anyway I'm sure ppl would have found the product listing anyway...
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| Subject: | Re: Yup - something's wrong |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03 <jtholley03@adelphia.net>
>
> > If not, do you have an optical cable connected to the XDP from the C90
>and
> > also analog RCAs going from the C90 to the XDP?
>
>No. I have buslink and RCA to the XDP4000X.
>
Hmm, interesting. Everything should be working okay, in that case... Are
there any changers involved in this install as well, or just the XA-300?
> > Do you have the XA-300 connected in the UniLink line directly from the
>HU
> > (and then the XDP connected to the XA-300)
>
>No - I didn't realize I could do this?
>
>
> > or do you have the C90 connected directly to the XDP and then the XA
>connected
> > to the changer port on the XDP?
>
>This is the way I have it!
>
>Jim
Yeah that's the correct way, actually. You probably *could* go the other
way (because the bus is quite good at sorting things out on its own--hence
why you can connect multiple MCAs in series or parallel without problems)
but going C90-->XA-->XDP might introduce problems so that's why I asked you.
But it looks like you have it right anyway.
Perhaps you just had something connected incorrectly somewhere when testing
it? If there's no changers you should have the following connections...
C90 to XDP Master Inputs: Analog RCAs from the FRONT outputs on the C90 +
UniLink (+ digital optical if you have the XA-211D). If only using analog,
be sure the C90 is in Analog output mode.
XA-300 to XDP Slave Inputs: Analog RCAs from the OUTPUT on the XA-300 +
UniLink from the output side as well.
Other connections on the XDP: +12V & GND (of course) and connect the
amplifiers' remote terminals to the REM terminal on the XDP (use a relay if
connecting more than 2 amplifiers); plus amp RCAs of course.
Nothing should be connected to UniLink input side on the XA-300, if there
are no changers in the system; this is not including the other (audio/USB
input side) of the XA-300 I mean--just referring to the UniLink connection
side.
Be sure to press the RESET button (on the C90 it might be software, I'm not
sure) on the HU after everything is connected up.
I'm sure you know all this but you might have made a small error somewhere
(it's pretty easy to do) which might have led to the disappearance of audio
from the HU.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Thibault <tbone7467@yahoo.com>
wanna sell your xa-300 if you get the xa-110ip
jtholley03 <jtholley03@adelphia.net> wrote: --> XDP4000X-List message posted by:
jtholley03
Meant the XA-300
On 4/10/06 9:01 AM, "jtholley03" wrote:
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03
>
> On 4/9/06 10:15 PM, "Roland M" wrote:
>
>> XA-110IP
>
> Thanks for the info on the XA-110IP! I bought the XA-100 not knowing that
> this existed. I will get one of these for my Ipod.
>
> jtholley03
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
Cc: Scott Thibault <tbone7467@yahoo.com>
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03@adelphia.net
> wanna sell your xa-300 if you get the xa-110ip
I think I'll keep it regardless.
They are only $99 new at Crutchfield.
I want to put video in although I hear the 4000 delays the sound.
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Cc: Roland M <mdx400@hotmail.com>
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03@adelphia.net
Iwill have to check but from memory this is how I have it.
XA-211D
I need one of these. Are they still available new?
Jim
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| Subject: | Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
Ok, I just received and connected my modified Phatbox to my system, however upon
connection it seems as if my 4000x disappears. I am connecting it directly
to the Unilink Changer Control input on the 4000x, and when doing so the phatbox
powers up fine and is even recognized by my C90, but my 4000x does not even
turn on or power on my system. Unplugging the phatbox from the unilink control
immediately powers on the 4000x, so I'm thinking I have a bad phatbox cable.
Anyone else have any ideas? Please help!
Ok, I just received and connected my modified Phatbox to my system, however upon
connection it seems as if my 4000x disappears.I am connecting it directly to
the Unilink Changer Control input on the 4000x, and when doing so the phatbox
powers up fine and is even recognized by my C90, but my 4000x does not even turn
on or power on my system. Unplugging the phatbox from the unilink control
immediately powers on the 4000x, so I'm thinking I have a bad phatbox cable. Anyone
else have any ideas? Please help!
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| Subject: | Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
>--------------
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
>
>Ok, I just received and connected my modified Phatbox to my system,
>however upon connection it seems as if my 4000x disappears. I am
>connecting it directly to the Unilink Changer Control input on the
>4000x, and when doing so the phatbox powers up fine and is even
>recognized by my C90, but my 4000x does not even turn on or power on
>my system. Unplugging the phatbox from the unilink control
>immediately powers on the 4000x, so I'm thinking I have a bad phatbox
>cable. Anyone else have any ideas? Please help!
>--------------
Did you use the reset button on the C90 to do a complete system bus
reset? You might also need a cable that has the Bus-On correctly
wired. I can't remember for sure, but I thought they were shipping
cables that had this done now, but maybe they slipped up.
Congrats on your new Phatbox; you're gonna love it. I can't image not
having one (er, I mean two), now on my installations. Very nice.
Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Thibault <tbone7467@yahoo.com>
what is modded on your Phatbox
bobbybraun@comcast.net wrote: --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
Ok, I just received and connected my modified Phatbox to my system, however upon
connection it seems as if my 4000x disappears. I am connecting it directly to
the Unilink Changer Control input on the 4000x, and when doing so the phatbox
powers up fine and is even recognized by my C90, but my 4000x does not even
turn on or power on my system. Unplugging the phatbox from the unilink control
immediately powers on the 4000x, so I'm thinking I have a bad phatbox cable.
Anyone else have any ideas? Please help!
Ok, I just received and connected my modified Phatbox to my system, however upon
connection it seems as if my 4000x disappears.I am connecting it directly to
the Unilink Changer Control input on the 4000x, and when doing so the phatbox
powers up fine and is even recognized by my C90, but my 4000x does not even turn
on or power on my system. Unplugging the phatbox from the unilink control
immediately powers on the 4000x, so I'm thinking I have a bad phatbox cable. Anyone
else have any ideas? Please help!
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| Subject: | Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
I did to a complete system reset as well as re-flash the firmware on the DMS cart
after I encountered the problem, all to no avail.
The C90 controls the Phatbox perfectly, songs show up on the display, but the 4000x
is non-existent when the PB is plugged in. The very second the Phatbox is
unplugged the 4000x turns on and the rest of my system powers up as it should.
To further explain, the DVol and VC Filter controls are available on the C90's
display when the PB is plugged in, further showing that for some reason when
the PB is plugged in my 4000x disappears.
My PB is originally a Volkswagen model modded to work with Sony Unilink. This
is the main reason why I suspect the cable, as it was hand made even though the
craftsmanship looks very sound. I don't know what to do up to this point, as
I doubt Phatnoise will be willing to offer any assistance since my PB has been
modified. Guess I'll try to contact the person who modded it for me, and hope
for the best. =(
Any other ideas?!?
-------------- Original message --------------
From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
>
> >--------------
> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
> >
> >Ok, I just received and connected my modified Phatbox to my system,
> >however upon connection it seems as if my 4000x disappears. I am
> >connecting it directly to the Unilink Changer Control input on the
> >4000x, and when doing so the phatbox powers up fine and is even
> >recognized by my C90, but my 4000x does not even turn on or power on
> >my system. Unplugging the phatbox from the unilink control
> >immediately powers on the 4000x, so I'm thinking I have a bad phatbox
> >cable. Anyone else have any ideas? Please help!
> >--------------
>
> Did you use the reset button on the C90 to do a complete system bus
> reset? You might also need a cable that has the Bus-On correctly
> wired. I can't remember for sure, but I thought they were shipping
> cables that had this done now, but maybe they slipped up.
>
> Congrats on your new Phatbox; you're gonna love it. I can't image not
> having one (er, I mean two), now on my installations. Very nice.
>
> Matt Dralle
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
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> 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email
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>
>
I did to a complete system reset as well as re-flash the firmware on the DMS cart
after I encountered the problem, all to no avail.
The C90 controls the Phatbox perfectly, songs show up on the display, but the 4000x
is non-existent when the PB is plugged in. The verysecond the Phatbox is
unplugged the 4000x turns on and the rest of my system powers up as it should.
To further explain, the DVol and VC Filter controls are available on the C90's
displaywhen the PB is plugged in, further showing that for some reason when
the PB is plugged in my 4000x disappears.
My PB is originally a Volkswagen model modded to work with Sony Unilink. This is
the main reason why I suspect the cable, as it was hand made even though the
craftsmanship looks very sound. I don't know what to do up to this point, as
I doubt Phatnoise will be willing to offer any assistance since my PB has been
modified. Guess I'll try to contact the person who modded it for me, and hope
for the best. =(
Any other ideas?!?
-------------- Original message --------------
From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
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-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
Ok, I just received and connected my modified Phatbox to my system,
however upon connection it seems as if my 4000x disappears. I am
connecting it directly to the Unilink Changer Control input on the
4000x, and when doing so the phatbox powers up fine and is even
recognized by my C90, but my 4000x does not even turn on or power on
my system. Unplugging the phatbox from the unilink control
immediately powers on the 4000x, so I'm thinking I have a bad phatbox
cable. Anyone else have any i
deas? Please help!
--------------
Did you use the reset button on the C90 to do a complete system bus
reset? You might also need a cable that has the Bus-On correctly
wired. I can't remember for sure, but I thought they were shipping
cables that had this done now, but maybe they slipped up.
Congrats on your new Phatbox; you're gonna love it. I can't image not
having one (er, I mean two), now on my installations. Very nice.
Matt Dralle
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&g
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Thibault <tbone7467@yahoo.com>
>
>will any of them work with video that is what I am interested in doing.
>
Did you mean will any of them work with the iPod video models?
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03@adelphia.net
>
> > wanna sell your xa-300 if you get the xa-110ip
>
>I think I'll keep it regardless.
>
>They are only $99 new at Crutchfield.
>
>I want to put video in although I hear the 4000 delays the sound.
>
Yeah the XA-300 really isn't *that* badly priced considering what you get.
The quality of the unit is definitely very good as well. The USB input (if
you ever use it) utilises Burr-Brown D/A as well (it tells you this in
Windows when it detects the unit on your PC).
You can also get one on eBay cheaper than that. Usually around $60-$70 US
or so. I got mine a few years ago, on eBay, for like $40 shipped, since it
didn't have a UniLink cable with it...
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Yup - something's wrong |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: jtholley03@adelphia.net
>
>Iwill have to check but from memory this is how I have it.
>
>XA-211D
>
>I need one of these. Are they still available new?
>
>Jim
Yeah the XA-211D (the new part number, old one was XA-210D IIRC) is still
available from Sony DAPC USA, I believe. It is often out of stock though,
IIRC.
Pricey little thing though, and it's proprietary so not easy to get around
using it (it is theoretically possible to build your own optical out for it,
but I don't think anyone has actually attempted it). I think it is like
$30? Rarely you'll see them on eBay as well, though the price usually isn't
any better (sometimes it's worse 'cause Sony is out of stock, lol).
But yes it is still possible to get them.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
>
>My PB is originally a Volkswagen model modded to work with Sony Unilink.
>This is the main reason why I suspect the cable, as it was hand made even
>though the craftsmanship looks very sound. I don't know what to do up to
>this point, as I doubt Phatnoise will be willing to offer any assistance
>since my PB has been modified. Guess I'll try to contact the person who
>modded it for me, and hope for the best. =(
>
>Any other ideas?!?
Well you could always try not mentioning that it is modified! LOL.
Also the cable sounds suspect to me as well, though I admittedly know very
little about using one of these since I've never actually installed/set one
up. But just from the fact that Matt seemed to allude to the fact that
there was a problem with the cabling in the past somehow (that the cables
have to have "bus-on" wired correctly?) that makes me think the cable too.
Though of course it might just be the unit itself, looks like you have to
rule the cable out first by swapping in another one or making certain it is
wired right...
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Thibault <tbone7467@yahoo.com>
Sorry, yes that what i meant I was in a hurry when I typed that. I am looking for
something for video. Either that I am getting the DVD changer that sony makes
Roland M <mdx400@hotmail.com> wrote: --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland
M"
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Thibault
>
>will any of them work with video that is what I am interested in doing.
>
Did you mean will any of them work with the iPod video models?
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| Subject: | Re: Changer Options |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: telmnstr@757.org
> Sorry, yes that what i meant I was in a hurry when I typed that. I am
> looking for something for video. Either that I am getting the DVD
> changer that sony makes
In the usual retarded modern Sony fashion, I believe the DVD player
doesn't directly work with unilink. There is an adaptor box. I'm curious,
does it turn on the optical inputs for the DVD changer? Or can it not do 2
channel digital audio?
Beware, some say the XDP4000 adds a delay as the DSP processors do their
thing, which may cause video to unsync.
I use an Xbox in the car (xbox media center) and have no problems with the
210EQ but it is much lesser of a unit, and I'm not using SPDIF output on
the xbox yet. Xbox makes a great $90 mobile media center. You can upgrade
the hardrive and store large collection of sorted
mp3/wav/divx/mpeg1/mpeg2/mpeg4. Add a wireless access point for easy FTP
of new media.
- Ethan
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| Subject: | Re: Phatnoise Connection Problem - Help?! |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
Now I just have to find a cable that is known to work in conjunction with a Sony
processor. I think I'm going to give Phatnoise a try tomorrow and see what
they have to say, but from the sound of it they don't hand out (or sell) any of
their cables very willingly... And to think I was so excited to give this
thing a try and then this happens... what an exercise of patience... ugh! =(
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M"
>
> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
> >
> >My PB is originally a Volkswagen model modded to work with Sony Unilink.
> >This is the main reason why I suspect the cable, as it was hand made even
> >though the craftsmanship looks very sound. I don't know what to do up to
> >this point, as I doubt Phatnoise will be willing to offer any assistance
> >since my PB has been modified. Guess I'll try to contact the person who
> >modded it for me, and hope for the best. =(
> >
> >Any other ideas?!?
>
> Well you could always try not mentioning that it is modified! LOL.
>
> Also the cable sounds suspect to me as well, though I admittedly know very
> little about using one of these since I've never actually installed/set one
> up. But just from the fact that Matt seemed to allude to the fact that
> there was a problem with the cabling in the past somehow (that the cables
> have to have "bus-on" wired correctly?) that makes me think the cable too.
> Though of course it might just be the unit itself, looks like you have to
> rule the cable out first by swapping in another one or making certain it is
> wired right...
>
> Roland M.
>
>
>
Now Ijust haveto find a cable that is known to work in conjunction with a Sonyprocessor.
I think I'm going to give Phatnoise a try tomorrow and see what they
have to say, but from the sound of it they don't hand out (or sell) any of their
cables very willingly... And to think I was so excited to give this thinga
try and then this happens... what an exercise of patience... ugh! =(
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Roland M" mdx400@hotmail.com
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: bobbybraun@comcast.net
My PB is originally a Volkswagen model modded to work with Sony Unilink.
This is the main reason why I suspect the cable, as it was hand made even
though the craftsmanship looks very sound. I don't know what to do up to
this point, as I doubt Phatnoise will be willing to offer any assistance
since my PB has been modified. Guess I'll try to contact the person who
modded it for me, and hope for the best. =(
Any other ideas?!?
Well you could always try not mentioning that it is modified! LOL.
&g
t;
Also the cable sounds suspect to me as well, though I admittedly know very
little about using one of these since I've never actually installed/set one
up. But just from the fact that Matt seemed to allude to the fact that
there was a problem with the cabling in the past somehow (that the cables
have to have "bus-on" wired correctly?) that makes me think the cable too.
Though of course it might just be the unit itself, looks like you have to
rule the cable out first by swapping in another one or making certain it is
wired right...
Roland M.
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