---------------------------------------------------------- XDP4000X-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/30/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:29 AM - XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Editor via Laptop??? (Randy Visentine) 2. 08:48 AM - Re: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Editor via Laptop??? (Matt Dralle) 3. 11:54 AM - Re: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Editor via Laptop??? (Randy Visentine) 4. 12:07 PM - Re: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit (bobbybraun) 5. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit (Randy Visentine) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:09 AM PST US From: "Randy Visentine" Subject: XDP4000X-List: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Editor via Laptop??? Hello, I needed to re-configure/re-align my system, so I hooked up my laptop to my XDP-4000x. It has been over 3 years since I had to do this. It initially worked fine - I just did a few quick tweaks to the X-Over with the DSC software. Then, I went back last week, and I was ready to fine tune my system with my RTA ready to go. Now, when I try to open the DSC "CNW" editor (for X-Over and Delays), I get some kind of "300" error on the laptop, and the DSC application closes out when I click "OK" on the pop-up box. I can not seem to access any of the XDP's CNW features via the Laptop. The XDP's CNW Preset Memory is still entact (or else I'd have a paperweight on my hands - arrrrgh!). I can access the EQ just fine (adjusting and saving/uploading the EQ works perfectly via the DSC software)! What is going on??? I also tried another laptop, and I get the same error (only for CNW)? I also tried to completely power down the C90/XDP (Removed +12v for a few minutes), and I still experienced the same error on both laptops... Could this be a Null-Modem Cable issue? I kind of doubt it as I doubt the CNW editor uses different Serial wires than the EQ editor uses, ya know? And the fact that this same thing happens on 2 Laptops is odd. I'd hate to say it, but this might be the final straw for my dear C90/XDP-4000x. I am inches away from doing a Car-PC (Waiting for the new Panda CT650 LCD Monitor to come out this summer), but I'd really like to get my XDP's x-over and delays tweaked NOW for my new installation :-( . I also wanted to use the XDP4K in my other ride (4-Runner 4x4) once I get a Car-PC in this ride (Tacoma 4x4). That dream may soon be put to rest... Thanks for any help from a stuck XDP user. PS - I was also the guy having iPod issues with my C90/XDP. I junked the crappy PAC "Aux-In Unilink Adaptor" that was locking up my system in favor of a Sony XA-300. I still get some weird issues with the motorized face changing angles on its own, but I no longer have the "Freezing" issue on power-up (thank GOD!!! That was very annoying). Rock and/or Roll -- Randy V. Houston, TX Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:00 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Editor via Laptop??? Are you using a _real_ comm port or a USB-RS232 adapter? I'd try the opposite of what you're using. Also, I'd try running DSC in Windows SAFE mode and see if it has any impact on the issue. I can't say for sure that DSC will actually run in Safe mode, but its worth a try. I would also try running DSC in Windows 95 Compatibility mode. You right click on the dsc.exe file and select properties and look for the compatibility tab. A an aside, the 4000x uses different data transfer techniques for the EQ vs. the Xover. The EQ uses small little data data packets, whereas the Xover uses these huge packets that contain the whole XOver profile at once. Not that this has any thing specifically to do with the issue, but it is a significant difference between the EQ updates and Xover updates. Best regards, Matt Dralle At 12:26 AM 8/30/2007 Thursday, you wrote: >Hello, > >I needed to re-configure/re-align my system, so I hooked up my laptop to my XDP-4000x. It has been over 3 years since I had to do this. It initially worked fine - I just did a few quick tweaks to the X-Over with the DSC software. Then, I went back last week, and I was ready to fine tune my system with my RTA ready to go. Now, when I try to open the DSC "CNW" editor (for X-Over and Delays), I get some kind of "300" error on the laptop, and the DSC application closes out when I click "OK" on the pop-up box. I can not seem to access any of the XDP's CNW features via the Laptop. The XDP's CNW Preset Memory is still entact (or else I'd have a paperweight on my hands - arrrrgh!). > >I can access the EQ just fine (adjusting and saving/uploading the EQ works perfectly via the DSC software)! What is going on??? I also tried another laptop, and I get the same error (only for CNW)? I also tried to completely power down the C90/XDP (Removed +12v for a few minutes), and I still experienced the same error on both laptops... > >Could this be a Null-Modem Cable issue? I kind of doubt it as I doubt the CNW editor uses different Serial wires than the EQ editor uses, ya know? And the fact that this same thing happens on 2 Laptops is odd. > >I'd hate to say it, but this might be the final straw for my dear C90/XDP-4000x. I am inches away from doing a Car-PC (Waiting for the new Panda CT650 LCD Monitor to come out this summer), but I'd really like to get my XDP's x-over and delays tweaked NOW for my new installation :-( . I also wanted to use the XDP4K in my other ride (4-Runner 4x4) once I get a Car-PC in this ride (Tacoma 4x4). That dream may soon be put to rest... > >Thanks for any help from a stuck XDP user. > >PS - I was also the guy having iPod issues with my C90/XDP. I junked the crappy PAC "Aux-In Unilink Adaptor" that was locking up my system in favor of a Sony XA-300. I still get some weird issues with the motorized face changing angles on its own, but I no longer have the "Freezing" issue on power-up (thank GOD!!! That was very annoying). >Rock and/or Roll >-- >Randy V. >Houston, TX >Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:31 AM PST US From: "Randy Visentine" Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Editor via Laptop??? Thanks for the suggestions, Matt. One of the laptops was using a USB-to-Serial adaptor (Running XP), and one of the laptops was using a "real" Serial Port (Running Win98). Tried Compatibility Mode on the XP Machine, no difference. The older laptop with the Serial Port is the same Laptop I used to setup my XDP system 3-4 years ago, and I have not used that particular laptop for anything else since then (it was a $100 P.O.S. laptop I bought just for programming the XDP!). The funny thing is the XP Laptop with the USB-to-Serial adaptor worked initially (I was able to edit my X-Over the first time I hooked it up). I didn't get any errors until the second time I went to interface the Laptop! Then neither Laptop woud work... Do you think there is a small chance my Null Modem Cable might be bad? Maybe just passing enough data to allow EQ edits, but not CNW edits w/o errors? Do you still have a link to who sells the Serial Null-Modem cables compatible with the XDP? Any other suggestions? Thanks again Randy V -- Randy V. Houston, TX Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:07:26 PM PST US Subject: XDP4000X-List: Re: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit From: "bobbybraun" It seems you've ruled the computer out as being the culprit, after using two very different systems while making the connection. I would start with swapping out the null modem cable, hopefully the problem is as simple (and as cheap) as that. You might also want to try a different version of the Sony DSC software. Otherwise I can see no other solution than sending the 4000x in for repair... Best of luck! -------- Sony ES CDX-C90, XDP-4000X, XM-2000R, Phoenix Gold M44, MS2250, Infinity Beta 8-5-1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131864#131864 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:35 PM PST US From: "Randy Visentine" Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Re: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit Thanks for the inspiration/hope, Bobby :-) Do you know of any places that sell Null Modem cables off the top of your head? I'll do some searching in a moment. Was there anything specific (besides the "Null Modem" wiring aspect) that I need to verify for XDP Useage? Thanks again Randy V On 8/30/07, bobbybraun wrote: > > > It seems you've ruled the computer out as being the culprit, after using > two very different systems while making the connection. > > I would start with swapping out the null modem cable, hopefully the > problem is as simple (and as cheap) as that. You might also want to try a > different version of the Sony DSC software. > > Otherwise I can see no other solution than sending the 4000x in for > repair... Best of luck! > > -------- > Sony ES CDX-C90, XDP-4000X, XM-2000R, Phoenix Gold M44, MS2250, Infinity > Beta 8-5-1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131864#131864 > > -- Randy V. 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