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2. 03:21 AM - Re: Getting a "380 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit in DSC (DB)
3. 12:00 PM - Re: Getting a "380 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit in DSC (Randy Visentine)
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Subject: | Re: Getting a "380 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit |
in DSC
The new Null-Modem cable did not help. Not looking good IMO, but I *Think*
I know what caused all of this B.S. I beg you - PLEASE read this when you
get time. I'm desperate at this point, and I have a good idea where the
problem lies - I just need help fixing it.
FYI - Abbreviatons: DSC = Sony's "Digital Sound Creator" software editor;
XDP = XDP-4000x; CNW = The XDP's Crossover/Level/Delay settings screen (just
to make sure this translates)
A few points: The DSC error I recive is specifically stated as "Run-Time
error '380': Invalid Property Value"
Another interesting point: The last time I had the DSC CNW Editor Working
succsessfully with the XDP, I saved a few preset files to the PC. When I
open those saved CNW Files "Offline", the DSC Application indicates "An
invalid setting exists in this file", and closes the application. This
seems to coincide with the error I'm getting when trying to connect to the
XDP's CNW settings.
The Crux: I think I know what the "Invalid Property Value" is. The last
time I succsessfully had the DSC CNW Editor working, I cranked both of the
High-Pass (Tweeter) Outputs to "-Infinity dB", essentially muting the
Tweeter Outputs (I am no longer using the high-pass/tweeter outputs as my
tweets will soon come in at 798Hz or 1.25KHz!!!!). Now when I hook up
the Laptop and connect the DSC Software to the XDP, and select "CNW" (As the
'Error 380' Pop-Up Box appears), I see the DSC's High-Pass channels
attempting to set the High-Pass channels to +12dB (see this pic for a
screen-shot: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7342/dscerrors2cq8.jpg ).
Interesting, huh? None of the X-Over's graphic display will load, and you
can cleary see the "High" channels set to +12dB!!! (I set them to 'Negative
Infinity', NOT to '+12dB'!!!) As we all know, the CNW X-Over section only
allows a maximum of +6dB of boost per output channel (a setting of +12dB is
impossible). So I'm assuming the DSC Software is somehow reading (Inverting
perhaps) the "Negative Infinity" setting as a "+12dB" setting since +12dB is
impossible to select on the XDP. How's that for a "Software Bug"?
Baaaahhhhh! :-(
I also DL'ed and tried the DSC version 2.0 available from Matt's site, but
it exhibited the SAME issues. It seems these new XDP CNW presets are
"Corrupted" as far as the DSC Software is concerned.
Basically, I think I need a way to get the XDP back to its Factory
Settings. Is such a "Factory Reset" possible? Removing +12v does not erase
the preset memory, and I don't see any type of a "Reset" button on the XDP
(I know the C90 has a physical "Reset" Button, but I don't see any such
button on the XDP).
Since this problem began, I haven't attempted to upload any new CNW Presets
via the DSC Software, as I fear I will loose all of my current presets (that
would really suck!). I'm thiking if I created all new CNW Presets
"Offline" using the DSC Software, then the DSC's "Upload to DSP"
function might work (Create all new Presets offilne, and then try to upload
them to the XDP - hopefully "Overwriting" the corrupted presets in the
process). I am VERY reluctant to try this, as I fear I will loose my
current CNW Presets that are still working in my current setup (I'm worried
the upload will fail, and I will be stuck with a "Bricked" XDP-4000x with
the "Factory CNW Presets" which are essentially useless with my system). At
the same time - even if this DOES fail (and it erases all of my current CNW
presets), I'm thinking it would still overwrite the 'corrupted' preset
files, and let me back into the DSC CNW Editor (Make sense?). I am really
scared to try this (I'm sure you can understand why).
I am desperate, and I would be willing to reimburse any XDP List Member that
can help me at this point!!! Information on executing a "Factory Reset", or
any confirmation if creating new CNW Presets "Offline" (Using the DSC
Software) and then 'Uploading' them to the XDP might work would be greatly
appreciated.
I wish I never would have set those High-Pass channels to "- Infinity dB".
Who could have known this would cause me so much stress??? I was trying to
prevent any type of connection error on my part, and I ended up creating an
error on the DSC side!!! Arrrrggggh!
Thanks for reading my wordy post(s). It does mean a lot to me. Seriously.
Randy V
On 9/4/07, Randy Visentine <randyman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roland.
>
>
> --
> Randy V.
> Houston, TX
> Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy
>
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Subject: | Re: Getting a "380 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit |
in DSC
Hmm...
I'm guessing that you'll have to try a few things:
- Try a different laptop (preferrably with Windows 2000, and a real
serial port)
- In the install directory, are the invalid CNW files. I would try and
edit one using
either wordpad, and reset all invalid settings back to zero. My guess
is that the
software is trying to load the invalid settings, and crashing. Best bet
would be to
install the software on an older laptop, and see if you can fire it up.
I remember back in the day when I was hand-editing my files that it
would crash when
loading up, but it was due to the fact that I was going past the
crossover limits, and would
just balk at them. I'd have to rewrite the files to get it up and going.
As for a hard reset, I don't think it exists. When I got mine, it was
really whacked out on
settings, and boy, was I glad to find the software! ;-)
Good luck!
Dan
Randy Visentine wrote:
> The new Null-Modem cable did not help. Not looking good IMO, but I
> *Think* I know what caused all of this B.S. I beg you - PLEASE read
> this when you get time. I'm desperate at this point, and I have a
> good idea where the problem lies - I just need help fixing it.
>
> FYI - Abbreviatons: DSC = Sony's "Digital Sound Creator" software
> editor; XDP = XDP-4000x; CNW = The XDP's Crossover/Level/Delay
> settings screen (just to make sure this translates)
>
> A few points: The DSC error I recive is specifically stated as
> "Run-Time error '380': Invalid Property Value"
>
> Another interesting point: The last time I had the DSC CNW Editor
> Working succsessfully with the XDP, I saved a few preset files to the
> PC. When I open those saved CNW Files "Offline", the DSC Application
> indicates "An invalid setting exists in this file", and closes the
> application. This seems to coincide with the error I'm getting when
> trying to connect to the XDP's CNW settings.
>
> The Crux: I think I know what the "Invalid Property Value" is. The
> last time I succsessfully had the DSC CNW Editor working, I cranked
> both of the High-Pass (Tweeter) Outputs to "-Infinity dB", essentially
> muting the Tweeter Outputs (I am no longer using the high-pass/tweeter
> outputs as my tweets will soon come in at 798Hz or 1.25KHz!!!!). Now
> when I hook up the Laptop and connect the DSC Software to the XDP, and
> select "CNW" (As the 'Error 380' Pop-Up Box appears), I see the DSC's
> High-Pass channels attempting to set the High-Pass channels to +12dB
> (see this pic for a screen-shot:
> http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7342/dscerrors2cq8.jpg ).
> Interesting, huh? None of the X-Over's graphic display will load, and
> you can cleary see the "High" channels set to +12dB!!! (I set them to
> 'Negative Infinity', NOT to '+12dB'!!!) As we all know, the CNW
> X-Over section only allows a maximum of +6dB of boost per output
> channel (a setting of +12dB is impossible). So I'm assuming the DSC
> Software is somehow reading (Inverting perhaps) the "Negative
> Infinity" setting as a "+12dB" setting since +12dB is impossible to
> select on the XDP. How's that for a "Software Bug"? Baaaahhhhh! :-(
>
> I also DL'ed and tried the DSC version 2.0 available from Matt's site,
> but it exhibited the SAME issues. It seems these new XDP CNW presets
> are "Corrupted" as far as the DSC Software is concerned.
>
> Basically, I think I need a way to get the XDP back to its Factory
> Settings. Is such a "Factory Reset" possible? Removing +12v does not
> erase the preset memory, and I don't see any type of a "Reset" button
> on the XDP (I know the C90 has a physical "Reset" Button, but I don't
> see any such button on the XDP).
>
> Since this problem began, I haven't attempted to upload any new CNW
> Presets via the DSC Software, as I fear I will loose all of my current
> presets (that would really suck!). I'm thiking if I created all new
> CNW Presets "Offline" using the DSC Software, then the DSC's "Upload
> to DSP" function might work (Create all new Presets offilne, and then
> try to upload them to the XDP - hopefully "Overwriting" the corrupted
> presets in the process). I am VERY reluctant to try this, as I fear I
> will loose my current CNW Presets that are still working in my current
> setup (I'm worried the upload will fail, and I will be stuck with a
> "Bricked" XDP-4000x with the "Factory CNW Presets" which
> are essentially useless with my system). At the same time - even if
> this DOES fail (and it erases all of my current CNW presets), I'm
> thinking it would still overwrite the 'corrupted' preset files, and
> let me back into the DSC CNW Editor (Make sense?). I am really scared
> to try this (I'm sure you can understand why).
>
> I am desperate, and I would be willing to reimburse any XDP List
> Member that can help me at this point!!! Information on executing a
> "Factory Reset", or any confirmation if creating new CNW Presets
> "Offline" (Using the DSC Software) and then 'Uploading' them to the
> XDP might work would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I wish I never would have set those High-Pass channels to "- Infinity
> dB". Who could have known this would cause me so much stress??? I
> was trying to prevent any type of connection error on my part, and I
> ended up creating an error on the DSC side!!! Arrrrggggh!
>
> Thanks for reading my wordy post(s). It does mean a lot to me.
> Seriously.
>
> Randy V
>
>
> On 9/4/07, *Randy Visentine* <randyman@gmail.com
> <mailto:randyman@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roland.
>
>
> --
> Randy V.
> Houston, TX
> Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy
>
> *
>
>
> *
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Getting a "380 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit |
in DSC
Thanks for the reply, Dan. This is actually a "Continuation" from previous
list E-Mails (see them here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=31631&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight
).
I have tried 2 different laptops, neither works (one Win98, one XP). The
problem is that the presets INSIDE the XDP contain the "Negative Infinity
dB" level settings for the High-Pass Channels - so even if I open the DSC
Soctware, and try to connect to the XDP's CNW Editor, I get the error (this
"Invalid Setting" exists INSIDE the XDP, as well as in the saved Preset
Files on my PC).
Once I get my Car-PC Componets rounded up, I might try to create new CNW
Presets "Offline", and then try to upload them using the DSC's "Upload to
DSP" Function (bypassing the CNW Editor page). I think this might work, but
I am worried that it will cause some other problem, making my XDP completely
worthless in the process. This would be easy enough to try, but I'm
reluctant when I think about what could go wrong (this is why I want to wait
until my CarPC is ready to "Take Over" in case the XDP fails altogether)
Has anyone ever recoverd from any type of error like this?
Thanks again for your time...
Randy V
On 9/6/07, DB <dbotel6500@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm...
>
> I'm guessing that you'll have to try a few things:
> - Try a different laptop (preferrably with Windows 2000, and a real serial
> port)
> - In the install directory, are the invalid CNW files. I would try and
> edit one using
> either wordpad, and reset all invalid settings back to zero. My guess is
> that the
> software is trying to load the invalid settings, and crashing. Best bet
> would be to
> install the software on an older laptop, and see if you can fire it up.
>
> I remember back in the day when I was hand-editing my files that it would
> crash when
> loading up, but it was due to the fact that I was going past the crossover
> limits, and would
> just balk at them. I'd have to rewrite the files to get it up and going.
>
> As for a hard reset, I don't think it exists. When I got mine, it was
> really whacked out on
> settings, and boy, was I glad to find the software! ;-)
>
> Good luck!
>
> Dan
>
> Randy Visentine wrote:
>
> The new Null-Modem cable did not help. Not looking good IMO, but I
> *Think* I know what caused all of this B.S. I beg you - PLEASE read this
> when you get time. I'm desperate at this point, and I have a good idea
> where the problem lies - I just need help fixing it.
>
> FYI - Abbreviatons: DSC = Sony's "Digital Sound Creator" software editor;
> XDP = XDP-4000x; CNW = The XDP's Crossover/Level/Delay settings screen (just
> to make sure this translates)
>
> A few points: The DSC error I recive is specifically stated as "Run-Time
> error '380': Invalid Property Value"
>
> Another interesting point: The last time I had the DSC CNW Editor Working
> succsessfully with the XDP, I saved a few preset files to the PC. When I
> open those saved CNW Files "Offline", the DSC Application indicates "An
> invalid setting exists in this file", and closes the application. This
> seems to coincide with the error I'm getting when trying to connect to the
> XDP's CNW settings.
>
> The Crux: I think I know what the "Invalid Property Value" is. The last
> time I succsessfully had the DSC CNW Editor working, I cranked both of the
> High-Pass (Tweeter) Outputs to "-Infinity dB", essentially muting the
> Tweeter Outputs (I am no longer using the high-pass/tweeter outputs as my
> tweets will soon come in at 798Hz or 1.25KHz!!!!). Now when I hook up
> the Laptop and connect the DSC Software to the XDP, and select "CNW" (As the
> 'Error 380' Pop-Up Box appears), I see the DSC's High-Pass channels
> attempting to set the High-Pass channels to +12dB (see this pic for a
> screen-shot: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7342/dscerrors2cq8.jpg ).
> Interesting, huh? None of the X-Over's graphic display will load, and you
> can cleary see the "High" channels set to +12dB!!! (I set them to 'Negative
> Infinity', NOT to '+12dB'!!!) As we all know, the CNW X-Over section only
> allows a maximum of +6dB of boost per output channel (a setting of +12dB is
> impossible). So I'm assuming the DSC Software is somehow reading (Inverting
> perhaps) the "Negative Infinity" setting as a "+12dB" setting since +12dB is
> impossible to select on the XDP. How's that for a "Software Bug"?
> Baaaahhhhh! :-(
>
> I also DL'ed and tried the DSC version 2.0 available from Matt's site, but
> it exhibited the SAME issues. It seems these new XDP CNW presets are
> "Corrupted" as far as the DSC Software is concerned.
>
> Basically, I think I need a way to get the XDP back to its Factory
> Settings. Is such a "Factory Reset" possible? Removing +12v does not erase
> the preset memory, and I don't see any type of a "Reset" button on the XDP
> (I know the C90 has a physical "Reset" Button, but I don't see any such
> button on the XDP).
>
> Since this problem began, I haven't attempted to upload any new CNW
> Presets via the DSC Software, as I fear I will loose all of my current
> presets (that would really suck!). I'm thiking if I created all new CNW
> Presets "Offline" using the DSC Software, then the DSC's "Upload to DSP"
> function might work (Create all new Presets offilne, and then try to upload
> them to the XDP - hopefully "Overwriting" the corrupted presets in the
> process). I am VERY reluctant to try this, as I fear I will loose my
> current CNW Presets that are still working in my current setup (I'm worried
> the upload will fail, and I will be stuck with a "Bricked" XDP-4000x with
> the "Factory CNW Presets" which are essentially useless with my system). At
> the same time - even if this DOES fail (and it erases all of my current CNW
> presets), I'm thinking it would still overwrite the 'corrupted' preset
> files, and let me back into the DSC CNW Editor (Make sense?). I am really
> scared to try this (I'm sure you can understand why).
>
> I am desperate, and I would be willing to reimburse any XDP List Member
> that can help me at this point!!! Information on executing a "Factory
> Reset", or any confirmation if creating new CNW Presets "Offline" (Using the
> DSC Software) and then 'Uploading' them to the XDP might work would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> I wish I never would have set those High-Pass channels to "- Infinity
> dB". Who could have known this would cause me so much stress??? I was
> trying to prevent any type of connection error on my part, and I ended up
> creating an error on the DSC side!!! Arrrrggggh!
>
> Thanks for reading my wordy post(s). It does mean a lot to me.
> Seriously.
>
> Randy V
>
>
> On 9/4/07, Randy Visentine <randyman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roland.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Randy V.
> > Houston, TX
> > Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy
> >
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