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Sun 12/08/02


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 12:13 AM - Re: 2002 YPA Video (I have Redstar Video and Digital shots (Mark Schrick)
     2. 06:48 AM - 200 ship Line abreast loop (Walt Fricke)
     3. 07:12 AM - Re: 200 ship Line abreast loop (Gus Fraser)
     4. 07:35 AM - Re: 200 ship  (Craig Payne)
     5. 07:52 AM - Re: Prop Balancing, Plus Duxford (Wes Warner)
     6. 08:11 AM - Re: 200 ship Line abreast loop (Walt Fricke)
     7. 11:11 AM - Fw: Hoses in the USA (Carl W Hays Enterprises)
     8. 02:48 PM - Re: Fw: Hoses in the USA (Ernie)
     9. 03:42 PM - Re: Florida (A. Dennis Savarese)
    10. 03:46 PM - Re: 200 ship Line abreast loop (Terry Calloway)
    11. 03:48 PM - Re: Fw: Hoses in the USA (Craig Payne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:13:01 AM PST US
    From: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: 2002 YPA Video (I have Redstar Video and Digital shots
    for you) --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net> Terry, I have GREAT digital stills and video I took at REDSTAR this year. Contact me off line and I will arrange to send you a CD and video tape for you to use. Mark "Shrek" Schrick (408) 391-6664 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Terry Calloway Subject: Yak-List: 2002 YPA Video --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> Hello, I am assembling a 2002 YPA Video Year in Review to be donated to YPA and sold at our website. If you have digital still or video you would like to be considered from your stock please contact me off line. I wish to include as many events that were attended as possible so, even if you were the only one there at that local air show but have photos please contact me. If you wish for your photo and/or airplane to not be included in this video please also advise me off line and I will try and accomidate you. The project should be completed and available in February. Thank you, T. L. "Pumper" Calloway Nanchang N8NW


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    Time: 06:48:56 AM PST US
    From: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
    Subject: 200 ship Line abreast loop
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com> It just occurred to me in this morning's daydreaming session......imagine the smash number 200 had to have to keep up on the turn inbound.....Or the fuel burned during the radio check in.....


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    Time: 07:12:11 AM PST US
    From: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: 200 ship Line abreast loop
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> Walt I want a pint of whatever you are drinking, did I miss something or are we now doing 200 ship formations. Where I come from that is called a bomb wing :-) Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Fricke" <walterfricke@yahoo.com> Subject: Yak-List: 200 ship Line abreast loop > --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com> > > It just occurred to me in this morning's daydreaming > session......imagine the smash number 200 had to have > to keep up on the turn inbound.....Or the fuel burned > during the radio check in..... > >


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    Time: 07:35:22 AM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
    Subject: Re: 200 ship
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net> Ah, those inscrutable orientals! What is a mere 200 airplanes compared to instant "spontaneous" demonstrations on the streets by 10's of thousands against American policy? I have seen a few CJ's that had tow hooks installed. I'm told that these were used by squadron leaders to tow banners in parades. Stuff like "Long Live Chairmen Mao", etc. Kind of a Chinese CAG Bird, there are pics of special paint jobs for big events but only a few CJ's were ever left that way, some in Chinese museums. Craig Payne >Walt Fricke wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com> > > It just occurred to me in this morning's daydreaming > session......imagine the smash number 200 had to have > to keep up on the turn inbound.....Or the fuel burned > during the radio check in..... ==============================================================


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    Time: 07:52:15 AM PST US
    From: Wes Warner <wes@lppcs.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop Balancing, Plus Duxford
    Mail-Followup-To: Wes Warner <wes@lppcs.com>, yak-list@matronics.com --> Yak-List message posted by: Wes Warner <wes@lppcs.com> John, I have a 55M with the paddle prop. When I had my prop balanced, it already had weights on th hub. They attached on the sides of the hub right at the blade root. The weights are very slim "C" shaped pieces that are the same radius of the hub. You should be able to see the mount holes for them on the sides of the hub at the blade root. Wes On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:17:29AM -0800, John Alber wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: John Alber <john@johnalber.com> > > > A question for Drew, then a brief mention of Duxford: > > First: > > Drew, Where does your balancing fellow attach his balance weights? Many inlines have holes on the flywheel to facilitate that, and that's where they've gone when I have had spam cans balanced. But where on the M14 with paddle blades? My prop balancer just scratches his head. > > Second: > > As recommended, I went to Duxford, outside of Cambridge, while on a visit to the U.K. It is a stunning museum with a wide range of aircraft and military hardware, all well presented. In addition, you can see aircraft in various stages of restoration or conservation, very often while work is in progress by volunteers or professionals. > > Heretofore, NAS Pensacola's museum was my favorite (and still a sentimental favorite), but Duxford Imperial War Museum takes the cake. Don't miss it if you're in the area. > > BTW, I didn't drive. There are regular fast trains to Cambridge from Kings Cross and a shuttle from Cambridge station to Duxford. > > John Alber > > Time: 12:25:04 PM PST US > From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net> > Subject: Yak-List: Prop Balancing > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net> > > Folks, > > I just finished #43s annual and we found a guy here that does nothing > but prop > balancing, blade angle measurements and engine vibration testing > (started out > on Army choppers and AF C-130s). The end result is an M-14P and MTV > three blade > prop that is unbelievably improved at all RPMs, like flying someone > elses airplane. > Can't say enough about getting a specialist to visit your hanger if > your mounts a' shakin... > > His equipment also measured and produced a computerized graphic > (squiggly lines > for us pilots) of crankshaft vibration, among other measurements; this > analysis > alone was nice to have as a look in to the guts of the engine. > > Something he passed on about our shock mounted instrument panels: He > mentioned > that if you're having some significant vibration in the panel at > certain RPM > ranges (besides doing prop balancing and everything else discussed) he > recommends > that if you get new rubber shock mounts, mix older ones with newer ones > (of > course throw out the shot ones). The concept is the panels, based on > the rubber > strength, elasticity, etc., tend to harmonize all at once at certain > frequencies > (RPMS), by not having them all the same (reacting the same), the panel > shake should be reduced. > > I have his contact info if you live in the SOCAL area. He will be at > Red Star > West 03 with his equipment, he is writing an article on the subject for > the web > and I will let you know when I get something. > > Drew > > > > > > > -- Time to go to... Group Therapy.


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    Time: 08:11:48 AM PST US
    From: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 200 ship Line abreast loop
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com> > > Walt I want a pint of whatever you are drinking, did > I miss something or are > we now doing 200 ship formations. I'm having a colonoscopy tomorrow. I'll be happy to send you along a pint of what I'm drinking! :-) I was referring to an earlier post (by Craig Payne, I think) telling us about a Chinese aerial parade in which this occurred. I was just ruminating on it an got to thinking what it would be like for the YPA clinic: "Loopers, check in" "two" "looper three"............ "lead this is Looper five, I think four is still getting his helmet on, should be with us in a minute." "Looper Lead, copy that" Pause....figit.....jeeze.... "Loopers, check in!" "Looper Two" "Looper Three" "This is Looker Four, Are we checking in?" "That's affirm, four, welcome aboard.....Loopers check in." "Looper two" "Looper Three" "Four's here and ready to rock and roll" "Five" "Lead, this is blue flight two, I mean, looper 52, My lead had to run back to the shack to get his checklist from his helmet bag......should be back here in a min..." "Looper Seven" "eight" "Nine" "Where's Looper Six?" "BREAKER BREAKER 19! BREAKER BREAKER 19! Everybody dismount and come over to lead's aircraft....On the double....we are running out of daylight!" Then, of course, there's the "Bingo fuel" call shortly after the thumbs up signal reaches the number 83 ship on it's way forward.....


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    Time: 11:11:24 AM PST US
    From: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts@simplyweb.net>
    Subject: Fw: Hoses in the USA
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts@simplyweb.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Gernetzke Subject: Hoses in the USA Ernie, We are also fabricating new hose assemblies. The prices for individual hoses vary. We will do one hose or the set. Like Mark Jefferies stated we also request your old fittings, at this time. We are awaiting word on an order of fittings from the factory, right now, so this may change for our customers in the future. We use internally-steel braided hose. Stay away from people trying to sell you the Mil-H-6000. We'd be happy to help you out: Carl W. Hays Enterprises, 858-292-7222 in San Diego, CA 92123. Cheers, Jill gernetzke-Hays


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    Time: 02:48:26 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Hoses in the USA
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I must have not been clear in my last post. If someone knows the dimensions of the FITTINGS, I may be able to get them, that way people dont have to send in old fittings. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts@simplyweb.net> Subject: Yak-List: Fw: Hoses in the USA > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts@simplyweb.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jill Gernetzke > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Hoses in the USA > > > Ernie, > > We are also fabricating new hose assemblies. The prices for individual hoses vary. We will do one hose or the set. Like Mark Jefferies stated we also request your old fittings, at this time. We are awaiting word on an order of fittings from the factory, right now, so this may change for our customers in the future. We use internally-steel braided hose. Stay away from people trying to sell you the Mil-H-6000. We'd be happy to help you out: Carl W. Hays Enterprises, 858-292-7222 in San Diego, CA 92123. > > Cheers, > > Jill gernetzke-Hays > >


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    Time: 03:42:14 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Florida
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> His name is Deon Esterhuizen <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob fitz" <rmfitz@direcway.com> Subject: Yak-List: Florida > --> Yak-List message posted by: "bob fitz" <rmfitz@direcway.com> > > Next week I'll be in St Petersburg, FL conducting research on the > erosion properties of coarse textured soils. Earlier this year we saw a > 52 operating out of Whitted Field and I believe the owner has posted > here. If so, please contact me off list. Thanx. > Bob(still grounded)Fitzpatrick > > > inal Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Obsolete cylinders on M-14P/PF engines? > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net> > > Paul, > > Our midwest event is just before Oshkosh, at manitowoc. I assume you are > a YPA member, if not it's a good thing to do, just to network, get > training and have fun. > > Also in the area is Bob Monzo, -52, Brian Olafson at Kankakee, -52, Bob > Fitzpatrick at Custer Park, -52, and Don Jones at Sandwich, -CJ. Not all > are interested in formation work. > > The YPA will hold a pre-Sun 'N Fun clinic in April out of Batow, FL, a > May clinic at Columbus, Nebraska, and numerous others in '03. > > Be aware that there will are some operational differences between NATA > training and YPA training. We all read from the same book but there is a > lot not in the book. > > Craig Payne > > Bpx2horn@aol.com wrote: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bpx2horn@aol.com > > > > Craig, > > I live at C77 and I know Doc Bill. Another neighbor is a getting a Yak > > > 52TW out here but I was wondering if you guys would want to play with > > a guy that had a straight 52 with 400HP. Maybe you can throttle back a > > > little so I can keep up. I am not FAST qualled yet but am looking > > forward to some instruction from two T-6 guys that live on the > > airport. > > > > Is their a clinic in the spring in the Midwest? If not maybe Helvy, > > myself and the other neighbor could host something here at C77? Harvey > > > Meek is the fellow who is getting the 52TW and he knows the guy at > > Lake in the Hills. I can see four and five ships already. Also Steve > > Thomas here has a 52 for sale that has been overhauled and only needs > > some paint for anyone that is interested. > > > > Paul > > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:46:41 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Re: 200 ship Line abreast loop
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> >>> walterfricke@yahoo.com 12/08/02 10:11AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com> I'm having a colonoscopy tomorrow. I'll be happy to send you along a pint of what I'm drinking! :-) Walt, Good luck. I had one in February and you could see the light from the scope if I opened my mouth. :) By now, you gotta love that porcelain horse! Have a good ride. tc


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    Time: 03:48:56 PM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Hoses in the USA
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net> Ernie, Yes there are metric fittings available, as close as your nearest industrial suppier. Most of what is on the CJ and Yak are 10MM, 12MM, and 16MM sizes, with some 8MM. However in my experience, these fittings were NOT designed for aviation use and are very heavy. I prefer the real thing and have been using fittings from the Yak-52W. These fittings allow mating the metric hose to SAE fittings and hose. I got CJ air hoses from Doug Sapp and fittings for oil/fuel from George Coy. Craig Payne Ernie wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > I must have not been clear in my last post. If someone knows the dimensions > of the FITTINGS, I may be able to get them, that way people dont have to > send in old fittings. > > Ernie >




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