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1. 07:04 AM - Stella Debunked (John Alber)
2. 09:26 AM - Re: The Gospel According to St. Fresnel of the Miraculous Lens (Kevin Pilling)
3. 01:33 PM - M-14P smoke oil injector placement? (Coffey, John)
4. 04:50 PM - Phase II Flight restrictions (Frank Haertlein)
5. 05:30 PM - Program letters and some airshow listings.............. (Frank Haertlein)
6. 05:38 PM - Re: Phase II Flight restrictions (Gus Fraser)
7. 05:42 PM - Re: Phase II Flight restrictions (Terry Calloway)
8. 06:02 PM - Re: Phase II Flight restrictions (Brian Lloyd)
9. 06:06 PM - YAK 52 Flight Data Recorder (Rodger Modglin)
10. 08:46 PM - Re: Phase II Flight restrictions (Jon Boede)
11. 09:28 PM - Wagers (Barry Hancock)
12. 09:34 PM - Re: Wagers (Mark Schrick)
13. 10:12 PM - Re: Wagers (cjpilot710@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: John Alber <john@johnalber.com>
Mark,
There are many bizarre verdicts in the US, to be sure, but most of the cases in
your email are fabricated. See http://www.stellaawards.com/bogus.html
John Alber
Time: 07:19:04 AM PST US
From: "Mark Jefferies." <mark@yakuk.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Fw: The Stella Wards 2002
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies." <mark@yakuk.com>
does this really happen in USA or is someone pulling our legs??
Subject: The Stella Wards 2002
Subject: The Stella Awards - It's time once again to consider the
candidates for
the annual Stella Awards. The Stella's are named after 81-year-old
Stella
Liebeck, who spilled coffee on her-self, and successfully sued
McDonalds.
That case inspired the Stella awards for the most frivolous successful
lawsuits in the United States. The following are this year's
candidates:
1. Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $780,000 by a jury
of
her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was
running
inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably
surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving little toddler
was Ms.
Robertson's son.
2. A 19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical
expenses
when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. Truman
apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when
he
was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps.
3. Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania,was leaving a house he had
just
finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the
garage
door to go up since the automatic door opener was
malfunctioning. He couldn't re-enter the house because the door
connecting
the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on
vacation, and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the garage for eight
days.
He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a large bag of dry dog
food.
He sued the homeowner's insurance claiming the situation caused him
undue
mental anguish. The jury agreed to the tune of $500,000.
4. Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500 and
medical
expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next-door neighbor's
beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced
yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog
might
have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who was
shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun.
5. A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of
Lancaster,
Pennsylvania, $113,500 after she slipped on a soft
drink and broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor
because
Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an
argument.
6. Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, successfully sued the owner of a
nightclub in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom window
to
the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred while Ms.
Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies room to
avoid
paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental
expenses.
7. This year's favorite could easily be Mr. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma
City,
Oklahoma. Mr. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32-foot Winnebago motor
home.
On his first trip home, having driven onto the freeway, he set the
cruise
control at 70 mph and calmly left the drivers seat to go into the back
and
make himself a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly, the R. V. left the
freeway,
crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski
sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he
couldn't
actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor
home. The
company actually changed their manuals on the basis of this suit, just
in
case there were any other complete morons buying their recreation
vehicles.
John Alber
john@johnalber.com
Home 618-675-3553
Work 314-259-2144
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| Subject: | Re: The Gospel According to St. Fresnel of the Miraculous Lens |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling@btclick.com>
...and they all said....."Halleluiah"..."Halleluiah"..........."Praise be
to................................................the Technology !"
kp
Subject: Yak-List: The Gospel According to St. Fresnel of the Miraculous
Lens
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NAVSPACE"
<David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
>
> Chapter One, Verses One through Five
>
> In the Beginning, God created the heavens, and the Aircraft Carrier, and
the
> seas upon which to float it; and yet there was complete Darkness upon the
> face of the earth. And, as we traveled there came to us, as a voice out of
> the darkness, an angel of the Lord, saying, "On centerline, on Glideslope,
> three quarters of a mile, call the ball."
>
> I reflected upon these words, for I was still yet engulfed in complete
> darkness. With deep feeling and doubt overwhelming my countenance, I
> glanceth towards my companion at my right hand and saith, "What seeth
thou,
> trusted friend?", and there was a great silence.
>
> Gazing in a searching manner and seeing naught, I raised my voice saying,
> "Clara..."
>
> And God spoke to me, and He said, "You're low..power". As the Lord saith,
so
> shall it be, and I added power; and lo, the ball riseth up onto the bottom
> of the mirror. But it was a tainted red glow, and surely indicateth
Satan's
> own influence. And God spoke to me again saying,
> "Power.Power..Power!!!!....fly the ball." And lo, the ball riseth up and
off
> the top of the lens, and the great darkness was upon me.
>
> And the voice of the Angel came to me again, saying, "When comfortable,
> twelve hundred feet, turn downwind." Whereupon I wandered in the darkness,
> without direction, for surely the ships radar was beset by demons, and
there
> was great confusion cast upon CATCC, and there was a great silence in
which
> there was no comfort to be found. Even my tacan needle spinneth..and lo,
> there was chaos; my trusted companion weepeth quietly unto himself and
from
> close behind I heard weeping and gnashing of teeth of our flock. There was
a
> great turmoil within my cockpit for a multitude of serpents had crept
> therein.
>
> And though we wandered, as if by Providence I found myself within that
Holy
> Corridor, and at twelve hundred feet, among my brethren seeking refuge;
and
> the voice of the Angel of the Lord came to me again, asking of me my
> needles, and I raised my voice saying, "Up and centered", and the voice
> answered, "Roger, fly your needles.." I reflected upon these words, and I
> raised my voice in prayer, for though my gyro indicateth it not so, surely
> my aircraft hath been turned upside down. Verily, as Beelzebub surely
> wrestled with me, a voice, that of my
> trusted companion, saith to me calmly, "Friend...fly thy needles, and find
> comfort in the Lord." And lo, with deep trembling in my heart, I did, and
He
> guideth me to centered glideslope and centerline, though I know not how it
> came to be.
>
> And out of the great darkness, God spoke to me again saying, "Roger ball"
> for now I had faith. And though the ball began to rise at the in close
> position, my right hand was full of the Spirit, and it squeeketh off power
> and as in a great miracle my plane stoppeth upon the flight deck, for it
> hath caught the four wire which God in his infinite wisdom hath placed
> thirty feet further down the flight deck than the three wire.
>
> And thus bathed in a golden radiance from above, our pilgrimage was at an
> end, and my spirit was truly reborn. And as I basked in the rapture, God
> spoketh to me one final time, and He saith, "Lights out on deck.."
>
>
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| Subject: | M-14P smoke oil injector placement? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
Smoke-Meisters,
Can anyone knowledgable out there provide an explanation of the "best" locations
to place smoke-oil injector nozzles in the left/right M-14P exhaust manifolds?
By "best" I mean, "best smoke production and least injector maintanence."
An answer "why" particular locations are "best" would be a very helpful bonus,
too.
Thanks in advance!
John Coffey
Yak-55m Lover
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| Subject: | Phase II Flight restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Just got my flight restrictions letter from a DAR out of Riverside, CA
FSDO. One line really bothers me and I wonder if anyone can tell me if
it's correct.
It says that I cannot land at any airport (except my home airport)
within my 300 NM radius unless I declare an emergency or it has been
listed as one of the airshows I'll be attending in my program letter. Is
this correct or did he misinterpret the regs?
Thanks in advance
Frank
Chino
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| Subject: | Program letters and some airshow listings.............. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakkers;
The time for submitting your program letter is fast approaching. I've
taken the liberty of posting all those airshows that are currently
listed with AIRSHOWS.ORG Their link is http://www.airshows.org/events/
Hope it helps!
Frank
Chino
Here are the current listings.....................................
CUT AND PASTE!
Event Name: Luke Days 2003
City: Luke AFB State/Province: AZ
Event starts on 3/15/2003 and ends on: 3/16/2003
Contact: LtCol Keith Yaktus at 623-856-6305 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.luke.af.mil
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Event Name: Florida Int'l Airshow - "Centennial of Flight"
City: Punta Gorda State/Province: FL
Event starts on 3/22/2003 and ends on: 3/23/2003
Contact: Bucky McQueen at 941-637-0300 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.fl-airshow.com
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Event Name: Riverside Open House & Air Show
City: Riverside State/Province: CA
Event starts on 3/29/2003 and ends on: 3/29/2003
Contact: Tom Miller at 909-682-1771 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Aerospace & Arizona Days
City: Davis Monthan AFB, Tucson State/Province: AZ
Event starts on 3/29/2003 and ends on: 3/30/2003
Contact: Maj Jill Long at 520-228-2310 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.dm.af.mil/aa
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Event Name: Airfest
City: March ARB State/Province: CA
Event starts on 4/5/2003 and ends on: 4/6/2003
Contact: Bill Meredith at 909-655-5119 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.452dservices.com
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Event Name: Coastal Carolina Air Expo 2002
City: Wilmington State/Province: NC
Event starts on 4/11/2003 and ends on: 4/13/2003
Contact: Willard Plentl at 910-341-4333 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.flyilm.com
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Event Name: Vintage Years Air Show
City: Visalia State/Province: CA
Event starts on 4/19/2003 and ends on: 4/20/2003
Contact: Lee Hansen at 559-787-3659 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.vintageairshows.com
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Event Name: Dobbins ARB Open House
City: Dobbins AFB State/Province: GA
Event starts on 4/26/2003 and ends on: 4/27/2003
Contact: Maj Richard Riddle at 770-919-5110 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? ASUN, CHUCK, REDE, FR
Web: www.dobbins.af.mil
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Event Name: The Incredible Age of Aviation Air Show & Balloon Festival
City: Atlanta State/Province: GA
Event starts on 5/1/2003 and ends on: 5/4/2003
Contact: Mark Boyd at 770-354-3626 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Wings Over Gillespie 2003
City: El Cajon State/Province: CA
Event starts on 5/2/2003 and ends on: 5/4/2003
Contact: Steve Real at 619-460-4777 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Southside Skyfest
City: Danville State/Province: VA
Event starts on 5/3/2003 and ends on: 5/4/2003
Contact: Marc Adelman at 434-799-5110 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? FIREB, HAT, TGS, VINTB
Web:
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Event Name: May Fly Air Show
City: Florence State/Province: SC
Event starts on 5/4/2003 and ends on: 5/5/2003
Contact: Julie Davis at 843-665-0515 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Air Power 2003
City: Wright-Patterson AFB State/Province: OH
Event starts on 5/10/2003 and ends on: 5/11/2003
Contact: David A. Egner at 937-257-6206 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Wings Over Topeka
City: Topeka State/Province: KS
Event starts on 5/10/2003 and ends on: 5/11/2003
Contact: Maj Rick Jellison at 785-861-4593 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.wingsovertopeka.com
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Event Name: Ft. Myers Beach Offshore Grand Prix & Airshow
City: Cape Coral State/Province: FL
Event starts on 5/15/2003 and ends on: 5/18/2003
Contact: Chris Moskal at 941-540-0097 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: EAA SW Regional Fly-in/The Big Country Fly-In
City: Abiline State/Province: TX
Event starts on 5/16/2003 and ends on: 5/17/2003
Contact: Stan Shannon at 830-997-8802 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.swrfi.org
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Event Name: Planes of Fame Airshow 2003
City: Chino State/Province: CA
Event starts on 5/17/2003 and ends on: 5/18/2003
Contact: Mark Foster at 909-597-3722 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.planesoffame.org
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Event Name: Fernley Fly-In and Air Fest
City: Fernley State/Province: NV
Event starts on 5/17/2003 and ends on: 5/18/2003
Contact: T.J. Hook at 775-575-5662 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: 2003 World Celebration of Flight
City: Lumberton State/Province: NC
Event starts on 5/17/2003 and ends on: 5/18/2003
Contact: David Barker at 910-739-1100 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? ASAT, SMAT, BYA, SCSA, ABWP, KS, JAM
Web: www.celebrationofflightnc.com
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Event Name: Wheels & Wings Airshow & Car Show
City: Millville State/Province: NJ
Event starts on 5/17/2003 and ends on: 5/18/2003
Contact: David Schultz at 856-327-2347 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? DSA, BDAG, CAF, MAAM, DR, YAF, SIAT, RAGW, CHUCK,
FIREB
Web: www.schultzairshows.com
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Event Name: Festival of Flight 2003 Airshow
City: Fayetteville State/Province: NC
Event starts on 5/18/2003 and ends on: 5/18/2003
Contact: Karen Hall at 910-486-3510 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? JMF, JL, MGA, MOHR, OTTO, DANB, LS, CONST
Web: www.festivalofflight.org
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Event Name: World Flight 2003
City: Asheville State/Province: NC
Event starts on 5/30/2003 and ends on: 6/1/2003
Contact: Kathleen Solee at 828-654-3231 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.ashevilleregionalairport.com
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Event Name: Little Rock AFB Open House
City: Little Rock AFB State/Province: AR
Event starts on 5/31/2003 and ends on: 6/1/2003
Contact: Jay Jackson at 501-987-3353 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.littlerock.af.mil
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Event Name: Lake in the Hills
City: Milwaukee State/Province: WI
Event starts on 6/3/2003 and ends on: 6/3/2003
Contact: Dave Monroe at 847-736-8171 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Ramona Air Fair
City: Ramona State/Province: CA
Event starts on 6/6/2003 and ends on: 6/8/2003
Contact: Steve Butler at 760-271-6626 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.ramonaairfair.org
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Event Name: Niagara Air Show
City: Niagara Falls State/Province: NY
Event starts on 6/7/2003 and ends on: 6/8/2003
Contact: LtCol Joseph Trippy at 716-236-3200 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: thunderoverniagara.com
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Event Name: Manitowoc County Airshow
City: Manitowoc State/Province: WI
Event starts on 6/7/2003 and ends on: 6/8/2003
Contact: Dave Ressler at 800-262-7892 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.manitowocairshow.com
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Event Name: Blue Ash Airport Days
City: Cincinnati State/Province: OH
Event starts on 6/7/2003 and ends on: 6/8/2003
Contact: Cheryl Popp at 513-489-2022 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.airportdays.com
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Event Name: Sheppard AFB Air Show
City: Sheppard AFB State/Province: TX
Event starts on 6/14/2003 and ends on: 6/15/2003
Contact: LtCol Jon Berrie at 940-676-2336 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Arnold AFB Centennial of Flight Celebration
City: Tullahoma State/Province: TN
Event starts on 6/21/2003 and ends on: 6/22/2003
Contact: Murray King at 931-454-6654 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? TB, ASAT, SABRE, JMB, REDE, JMF, BL, PEPSI, FB,
PWAS, F-15W, F-18, C-130, HERITAGE, F-117, B-17, B-24, F-4N, C-17
Web: www.arnold.af.mil
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Event Name: Aero Expo 2003: 100 Years of Flight
City: Akron State/Province: OH
Event starts on 6/21/2003 and ends on: 6/22/2003
Contact: Joseph Chevraux at 330-896-6332 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.mapsairmuseum.com
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Event Name: Grand Forks AFB Open House
City: Grand Forks AFB State/Province: ND
Event starts on 6/22/2003 and ends on: 6/22/2003
Contact: Capt Patricia Lang at 701-747-5608 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: London Airshow & Balloon Festival
City: London State/Province: ON
Event starts on 6/27/2003 and ends on: 6/29/2003
Contact: Peter Hill at 519-473-6444x234 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.londonairshow.com
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Event Name: Rhode Island National Guard Open House
City: North Kingstown State/Province: RI
Event starts on 6/27/2003 and ends on: 6/29/2003
Contact: Col Larry Gallogly at 401-886-1406 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.riguard.com/airshow.html
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Event Name: Air Show
City: Dubuque State/Province: IA
Event starts on 7/3/2003 and ends on: 7/3/2003
Contact: Perry Mason at 563-690-0815 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Tacoma Freedom Fair Airshow
City: Tacoma State/Province: WA
Event starts on 7/4/2003 and ends on: 7/4/2003
Contact: Doug Miller at 253-756-9808 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? EB
Web: www.freedomfair.com
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Event Name: Gathering of Eagles VIII
City: Willoughby State/Province: OH
Event starts on 7/11/2003 and ends on: 7/13/2003
Contact: Dick Shaeffer at 440-943-0084 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? CAF, YAF
Web:
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Event Name: Airfest Montana 2003
City: Missoula State/Province: MT
Event starts on 7/12/2003 and ends on: 7/12/2003
Contact: Joe Easton at 406-721-4381 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.msoairport.org
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Event Name: Saskatchewan Air Show
City: Moose Jaw State/Province: SK
Event starts on 7/12/2003 and ends on: 7/13/2003
Contact: Sharleen Graf at 306-692-4411 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? SB
Web: www.saskairshow.ca
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Event Name: Dayton Air Show
City: Dayton State/Province: OH
Event starts on 7/17/2003 and ends on: 7/20/2003
Contact: Charles Newcomb at 937-898-5901 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.airshowdayton.com
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Event Name: Wings Over Angel Fire
City: Angel Fire State/Province: NM
Event starts on 7/18/2003 and ends on: 7/20/2003
Contact: Tim Gaffney at 505-377-6661 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.angelfirechamber.org
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Event Name: American Heroes Airshow
City: Lake View Terrace State/Province: CA
Event starts on 7/19/2003 and ends on: 7/20/2003
Contact: James Paules at 818-883-9248 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.heroes-airshow.com
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Event Name: Selfridge Air Show
City: Selfridge ANGB State/Province: MI
Event starts on 7/26/2003 and ends on: 7/27/2003
Contact: LtCol Phil Lombard at 810-307-5572 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.selfridgeairshow.com
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Event Name: Grissom Community Airshow 2003
City: Grissom Aeroplex-Peru State/Province: IN
Event starts on 7/26/2003 and ends on: 7/27/2003
Contact: Daniel Goddard at 765-689-0159 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.grissom-aeroplex.com
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Event Name: Summer Heat Balloon Championship
City: Muncia State/Province: IN
Event starts on 8/8/2003 and ends on: 8/10/2003
Contact: Marisa Fuoti at 765-741-0532 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.muncievisitorsbureau.org
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Event Name: Incredible Age of Aviation
City: Atlanta State/Province: GA
Event starts on 8/9/2003 and ends on: 8/10/2003
Contact: Mark Boyd at 770-354-3626 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.flightlineairshows.com
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Event Name: Elkhart Airshow
City: Elkhart State/Province: IN
Event starts on 8/9/2003 and ends on: 8/10/2003
Contact: Robin Rigsby at 219-266-0597 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.elkhartairshow.com
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Event Name: 2003 Offutt AFB Open House and Airshow
City: Offutt AFB State/Province: NE
Event starts on 8/9/2003 and ends on: 8/10/2003
Contact: Maj Barry Cousler at 402-294-8800 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.offuttairshow.com
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Event Name: SkyFest Michiana
City: South Bend State/Province: IN
Event starts on 8/15/2003 and ends on: 8/17/2003
Contact: Dennis Kane at 574-282-1726 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.skyfestmichiana.com
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Event Name: KC Aviation Expo
City: Kansas City State/Province: MO
Event starts on 8/16/2003 and ends on: 8/17/2003
Contact: Ed Noyallis at 816-472-0478 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.missouri-cap.org/kcairshow
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Event Name: Northern Neighbors Day
City: Minot AFB State/Province: ND
Event starts on 8/16/2003 and ends on: 8/16/2003
Contact: Ray Dixon at 701-723-6506 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Fun in the Sun
City: Richmond State/Province: IN
Event starts on 8/22/2003 and ends on: 8/24/2003
Contact: Greg Stiens at 765-983-7394 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Porter County Air Heritage
City: Valparaiso State/Province: IN
Event starts on 8/22/2003 and ends on: 8/24/2003
Contact: Cathy Harrell at 219-926-4293 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: St. Louis County Fair & Air Show
City: St. Louis State/Province: MO
Event starts on 8/29/2003 and ends on: 9/1/2003
Contact: Vicki Biggs at 636-530-9386 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.stlcofair.org
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Event Name: Cleveland National Air Show
City: Cleveland State/Province: OH
Event starts on 8/30/2003 and ends on: 9/1/2003
Contact: Charles Newcomb at 216-781-0747 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.clevelandairshow.com
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Event Name: Winston Salem Air Show
City: Winston-Salem State/Province: NC
Event starts on 9/6/2003 and ends on: 9/7/2003
Contact: Edwin Cox at 336-767-6361 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.smithreynolds.org
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Event Name: Nova Scotia Air Show
City: Halifax/Shearwater State/Province: NS
Event starts on 9/6/2003 and ends on: 9/7/2003
Contact: Rodger Sorsdahl at 902-465-2725 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: https//nsias.ns.sympatico.ca
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Event Name: National Air Tour
City: Dearborn State/Province: MI
Event starts on 9/8/2003 and ends on: 9/24/2003
Contact: Greg Herrick at 651-255-1999 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? Begins in Dearborn 9/8/03 thru 9/24/03 - 21
states.
Web: www.nationalairtour.org
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Event Name: 2003 Cincinnati Lunken Airshow
City: Cincinnati State/Province: OH
Event starts on 9/13/2003 and ends on: 9/14/2003
Contact: Charlie Pyles at 513-321-4291 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? JMF, OTTO, CR/TSA, BYA
Web: www.airfest.org
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Event Name: Gunfighter Skies 2003
City: Mtn Home State/Province: ID
Event starts on 9/13/2003 and ends on: 9/14/2003
Contact: Alan Bermensolo at 208-587-8464 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.mountain-home.org/airshow/
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Event Name: The New York Air Show
City: Calverton State/Province: NY
Event starts on 9/19/2003 and ends on: 9/21/2003
Contact: Steven Kirschenbaum at 631-835-6798 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.newyorkairshow.org
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Event Name: Tupelo AirFest
City: Tupelo State/Province: MS
Event starts on 9/27/2003 and ends on: 9/28/2003
Contact: David Schultz at 662-841-6570 for more information.
Performer Codes: ? DSA, MD
Web: flytupelo.com
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Event Name: Amigo Airsho
City: El Paso State/Province: TX
Event starts on 10/4/2003 and ends on: 10/5/2003
Contact: Rhonda Butler at 915-545-2864 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.amigoairsho.org
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Event Name: COPPERSTATE Regional EAA Fly-In
City: Maricopa State/Province: AZ
Event starts on 10/9/2003 and ends on: 10/12/2003
Contact: Denny Cunningham at 480-474-9448 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.copperstate.org
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Event Name: Brunswick-Golden Isles Airshow 2003
City: Brunswick (Golden Isles) State/Province: GA
Event starts on 10/18/2003 and ends on: 10/19/2003
Contact: Jeremy Perusse at 912-265-2070 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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Event Name: Wings & Waves: Embry-Riddle Celebrates Centennial of
Flight
City: Daytona Beach State/Province: FL
Event starts on 11/8/2003 and ends on: 11/9/2003
Contact: Darryl Niemeyer at 386-226-6823 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web: www.erau.edu
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Event Name: The Great Orlando Rotary Airshow
City: Orlando Int' Airport State/Province: FL
Event starts on 11/22/2003 and ends on: 11/23/2003
Contact: Pat Phillips at 407-425-7676 for more information.
Performer Codes: ?
Web:
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| Subject: | Re: Phase II Flight restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
What is the actual wording used. The detail is in the detail. Does your
letter allow you to fly for
1. Exhibition
2. Maint
3. Proficiency.
Item three is your out. Remeber the program letter is a signal of your
intention to attend an event and you only have to notify if the event is
outside of your 300nm radius. NOTIFY mind you not beg for permission. Please
post verbatum the section you are concerned about. These letters are pretty
standard as the sections are pulled from 81???? which is the guide the FSDO
uses to create your letter.
Gus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Phase II Flight restrictions
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
>
> Just got my flight restrictions letter from a DAR out of Riverside, CA
> FSDO. One line really bothers me and I wonder if anyone can tell me if
> it's correct.
>
> It says that I cannot land at any airport (except my home airport)
> within my 300 NM radius unless I declare an emergency or it has been
> listed as one of the airshows I'll be attending in my program letter. Is
> this correct or did he misinterpret the regs?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Frank
> Chino
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Phase II Flight restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
What type of aircraft?
tc
>>> yak52driver@earthlink.net 12/11/02 06:49PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Just got my flight restrictions letter from a DAR out of Riverside, CA
FSDO. One line really bothers me and I wonder if anyone can tell me if
it's correct.
It says that I cannot land at any airport (except my home airport)
within my 300 NM radius unless I declare an emergency or it has been
listed as one of the airshows I'll be attending in my program letter.
Is
this correct or did he misinterpret the regs?
Thanks in advance
Frank
Chino
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| Subject: | Re: Phase II Flight restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
At 08:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
>
>Just got my flight restrictions letter from a DAR out of Riverside, CA
>FSDO. One line really bothers me and I wonder if anyone can tell me if
>it's correct.
>
>It says that I cannot land at any airport (except my home airport)
>within my 300 NM radius unless I declare an emergency or it has been
>listed as one of the airshows I'll be attending in my program letter. Is
>this correct or did he misinterpret the regs?
I got this when I moved "Betty" to the jurisdiction of the Sacramento FSDO
also and had to fight with them to get the LoL changed back to the original
wording. Unless they have changed things recently, this clause applies to
turbine-powered warbirds (as I recall). This is what you can expect if you
have an L-39.
Brian Lloyd
brian@lloyd.com
+1.340.998.9447
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| Subject: | YAK 52 Flight Data Recorder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rodger Modglin" <rmodg@hotmail.com>
I am doing some inertia calculations and would like to have the weight of
the original flight data recorder and mount that was located to the left and
behind the rear cockpit seat on the YAK 52s. Does anyone have this data?
Rodger Modglin
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| Subject: | Re: Phase II Flight restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@zoso.email.net>
The stuff they're supposed to be "quoting" in your program letter is from
8130.2D Chg 2 from Section 8, Par 142... you'll see from Section 8 Par 139
that the CJ is a Type III "Warbird".
http://www1.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/order81302DC2.pdf
If your restriction doesn't exactly quote Section 8 Par 142 (29)...
"All proficiency/practice flights shall be conducted within the
geographical area described in the applicant's program letter and any
amendments to that letter, but that area will not exceed 300 nautical
miles of the aircraft's home base airport. An exception is permitted for
proficiency flying outside of the area stated above for organized
formation flying, training, or checkout in conjunction with a specific
event listed in the applicant's program letter (or amendments). The
program letter should indicate the location and dates for this proficiency
flying."
Then perhaps you can "assist" them in correcting their typo... or if that
doesn't work you might nudge them to show you the order that has the
wording in it that they used. You probably want to avoid getting fully
uppity with them and pointing out that they can't just go making things
up; and shooting at them just seems to make them mad. :-)
I get (30) for my L-39, which is even worse... *600* NM with "one
alternate" per flight. Although that's not so bad -- I can fly somewhere,
eat, get gas, and come home.
If they stick to their wording on your special version of (29) ... you
might try faxing them a "goin' somewhere" letter every day until they get
tired of it. :-)
Brian... when you say "fight" -- what exactly did you do, and what worked
in the end? I have a whacky restriction on my 39 that's supposed to read
"Class C, D, E, and G airports unless a declared emergency or directed by
ATC" and mine just says "prohibited from entering Class B" (no "unless by
ATC", not even "in case of a declared emergency") -- which is frankly
unsafe since all the good IFR alternates for my home airport are under the
DFW Class B. I'm looking to gently persuade them to make my program
letter safer, but I haven't started that process yet.
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> At 08:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote:
>>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
>> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>>
>>
>>Just got my flight restrictions letter from a DAR out of Riverside, CA
>> FSDO. One line really bothers me and I wonder if anyone can tell me if
>> it's correct.
>>
>>It says that I cannot land at any airport (except my home airport)
>> within my 300 NM radius unless I declare an emergency or it has been
>> listed as one of the airshows I'll be attending in my program letter.
>> Is this correct or did he misinterpret the regs?
>
> I got this when I moved "Betty" to the jurisdiction of the Sacramento
> FSDO also and had to fight with them to get the LoL changed back to the
> original wording. Unless they have changed things recently, this
> clause applies to turbine-powered warbirds (as I recall). This is what
> you can expect if you have an L-39.
>
> Brian Lloyd
> brian@lloyd.com
> +1.340.998.9447
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Since you guys seem to like to wager on my life events (is that a
compliment, or tragedy?:) here's one for you...
We are in the final throws of painting the project CJ and are expecting
to have the DAR out the end of next week.
Deborah just had an exam today and the baby could "come at any time now."
House has the odds at 5:2 that the baby comes before the plane flies.
Side bets:
2:1 that I get a call to come home when I'm out at Chino
3:1 that he ends up with the initials C.J.
200:1 he's born in a flight suit
500:1 with a helmet on
Barry
Barry Hancock
All Red Star
(949) 300-5510
radialpower@cox.net
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net>
I hope both come out OK !!!!!!!!!
Congratulations on the new little one and your new machine.
Hope to see ya in February at Redstar Palm Springs
Mark "Shrek" Schrick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Subject: Yak-List: Wagers
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Since you guys seem to like to wager on my life events (is that a
compliment, or tragedy?:) here's one for you...
We are in the final throws of painting the project CJ and are expecting
to have the DAR out the end of next week.
Deborah just had an exam today and the baby could "come at any time now."
House has the odds at 5:2 that the baby comes before the plane flies.
Side bets:
2:1 that I get a call to come home when I'm out at Chino
3:1 that he ends up with the initials C.J.
200:1 he's born in a flight suit
500:1 with a helmet on
Barry
Barry Hancock
All Red Star
(949) 300-5510
radialpower@cox.net
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 12/12/2002 12:28:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
radialpower@cox.net writes:
> House has the odds at 5:2 that the baby comes before the plane flies.
> Side bets:
> 2:1 that I get a call to come home when I'm out at Chino
> 3:1 that he ends up with the initials C.J.
> 200:1 he's born in a flight suit
> 500:1 with a helmet on
>
Hay I'd like the helmet bet. But I bet he comes on Christmas Day. Poor kid
no matter what, he'll never know if he is getting presents for Christmas or
his birthday.
BTW, we just found out our daughter will have a GIRL (#3 grandchild), the
first part of April.
Jim Goolsby
cjpilot710@aol.com
386-467-3313 voice
386-467-3193 fax
386-569-7060 cell
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The enemy has no special rights here on earth.
Just see to it that, he gets them before God."
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