---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/18/02: 34 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:07 AM - Re: CJ CFI (Brian Lloyd) 2. 04:15 AM - don't forget to reset your clocks! (Brian Lloyd) 3. 05:28 AM - Re: What day is it Kids? (Gus Fraser) 4. 05:59 AM - 99 years (cpayne@mc.net) 5. 06:21 AM - Re: don't forget to reset your clocks! (Bpx2horn@aol.com) 6. 07:17 AM - Fw: Russian Press Release (Carl W Hays Enterprises) 7. 07:33 AM - Re: More on Tight Patterns (Ernie) 8. 07:52 AM - Cool news (Ernie) 9. 08:08 AM - Re: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust (Ernie) 10. 09:09 AM - No news (cpayne@mc.net) 11. 09:52 AM - Re: don't forget to reset your clocks! (Roy O. Wright) 12. 10:16 AM - Re: What day is it Kids? (Brian Lloyd) 13. 10:19 AM - Re: More on Tight Patterns (Brian Lloyd) 14. 10:46 AM - Re: More on Tight Patterns (Ernie) 15. 10:55 AM - Re: Cool news (Brian Lloyd) 16. 10:55 AM - Re: don't forget to reset your clocks! (Brian Lloyd) 17. 11:41 AM - Re: Cool news (Ernie) 18. 11:54 AM - Re: Merry Christmas to all, and to all a ... (ByronMFox@aol.com) 19. 12:13 PM - Re: Oil leaking into the engine (Coffey, John) 20. 12:46 PM - Re: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust (Doug) 21. 01:01 PM - Re: Cool news (Brian Lloyd) 22. 01:27 PM - Re: Cool news (BUTLER, FRANCIS) 23. 02:39 PM - CJ main wheel inner tubes (Doug) 24. 03:30 PM - Ultimate upgrage (Ernie) 25. 03:50 PM - Re: Ultimate upgrage (Brian Lloyd) 26. 04:14 PM - Re: Ultimate upgrage (Gus Fraser) 27. 04:52 PM - TPA (Barry Hancock) 28. 05:31 PM - Re: Ultimate upgrage (cjpilot710@aol.com) 29. 06:25 PM - Re: Cool news (A. Dennis Savarese) 30. 06:30 PM - Re: Cool news (cjpilot710@aol.com) 31. 06:44 PM - Re: Cool news (A. Dennis Savarese) 32. 08:37 PM - Re: Cool news (Brian Lloyd) 33. 08:38 PM - More on tight patterns (John Alber) 34. 11:07 PM - Fw: (no subject) (YakL1@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:43 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ CFI --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 03:44 AM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >We asked the FSDO if it would be possible to use my CJ, they talked to the >examiners, who agreed to the fun. Good. I did my CFI training in the CJ. >I don't intend to instruct in the CJ >after that, I just think becoming an instructor will make me safer and >stretch my brain. And why not instruct in the CJ? It is, after all, a primary trainer. Still, it can be tough to find a CFI checked out in the CJ so others might like it if you were around to help out. >Plus a CFI friend of mine (who has about 5,000 hours of >dual-given) thinks that doing my CFI training in the CJ would be a WHOLE >lot more fun than doing it in a 172RG. :-) Much. My problem was that lazy eights always degenerated into wingovers. Who wants to limit bank to only 45 degrees. : ) >After the first outing today, I'm now quite sure that my friend and I can >muddle through... but it's also quite obvious that if I could bend the ear >of someone who's given some CJ instruction before I could be doing a whole >lot better job of it. > >So, is there anybody on the list who I can talk into taking pity on a CFI >student and helping them not torture their instructor too much? :-) I would be happy to help. My only concern is that my Internet access may become spotty over the next three weeks while my boat is out of the water in the BVI and I may not have access to a phone line. Still, you can reach me at my phone number below. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:36 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: don't forget to reset your clocks! --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Today is leap second day! Don't forget to set your clock forward by one second at 2400Z! You wouldn't want to be late for work tomorrow! For those of you with a burning need to learn about leap seconds please check out this URL: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/leapsec.html. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:23 AM PST US From: Gus Fraser Subject: RE: Yak-List: What day is it Kids? --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser Flew last night for no other reason than it just needed to be done. Is it just 100 years, it amazes me that we have come so far in such a short time. If you look at sailing as a comparrison it took hundreds, if not thousands of years to make significant advances there. In the sky it has taken just 99 years. I thinks that this just points to the fact that we really want to fly. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: What day is it Kids? --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Not one person noted that 99 years ago today, the Wrights first flew. Shame shame shame. Me? I'm having a glass of beer. Jim Goolsby cjpilot710@aol.com 386-467-3313 voice 386-467-3193 fax 386-503-9065 or 8565 cell "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:00 AM PST US From: cpayne@mc.net Subject: Yak-List: 99 years --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net yak-list@matronics.com wrote: From: cjpilot710@aol.com Yak-List: What day is it Kids? Put down your beer old fart and turn on the tube...it's everywhere. Cheers, Craig Payne >--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > >Not one person noted that 99 years ago today, the Wrights first flew. >Shame shame shame. Me? I'm having a glass of beer. > >Jim Goolsby ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:55 AM PST US From: Bpx2horn@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: don't forget to reset your clocks! --> Yak-List message posted by: Bpx2horn@aol.com Hey Brian, I run on Lombardi time, always 15 minutes early. Or if I forget to set my clock 14 minutes and 59 seconds early. At this rate I'll be dead before I'm late. Paul ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:36 AM PST US From: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" Subject: Yak-List: Fw: Russian Press Release --> Yak-List message posted by: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" Group, This will be available in a copy of the Original Russian press release on the web in a few days. I will post that site at that time. I will also be out of town from 12/19 - 12/27, so if I do not respond to questions right away, it is because I do not have computer access. Happy holidays, Jill English version of OKBM Press release: About the development, production and delivery of the M-14P engines and its modifications Beginning from the mid-90s, we often received information that the so-called "red" M-14P engines of the Romanian production appear on the US and other foreign countries' markets. Regarding the above, OKBM (Voronezh,Russia) as the designer of the M-14P engine makes the following declaration: The term of validity of the Agreement of July 1983 between the Governments of the USSR and Romania regarding the production of aviation piston engines M-14P and M-14B26 expired in 1995 and has not been extended. In accordance with the above Agreement, the Romanian side had no right to sell or hand over the technical documentation, as well as the merchandise, which would be produced in Romania under the given license to other countries or either physical or legal parties, except specified by the Agreement, without the approval of the Russian side. Also, the Romanian side without the Russian approval has no right to use the received documentation as well as produced under the above documentation parts and aggregates on the units produced in Romania. Considering the above, we consider that the manufacturers of the engines in Romania use the intellectual property of Russia illegally and we intend to take relevant legal measures via the competent bodies of the Russian Ministry of Justice and Foreign Affairs to the manufacturers of the engines and those who participate in their sales. The quality of the Romanian-produced engines and their lifetime do not correspond with the Voronezh OKBM current produced engines since after the expiration of the License for production of them in Romania, the OKBM bulletins regarding the design changes directed to the increasing of the reliability and lifetime were not sent to Romania. Previously stated by Technical Terms warranty lifetime of 500 hr were not extended by legal order. Taking the above into consideration, the Romanian manufacturers and suppliers of M-14P engines undermine the prestige of the authentic designer and manufacturer of the engines in Russia - OKBM and Voronezh Mechanical Factory. Beginning from year 2000 OKBM produced and sold : - 20 brand new M-14PF engines ( total amount of engines produced by us is 70) - 22 brand new M-14P engines - 10 modified M-14X engines - 10 modified M-14B26B engines for Mi-34 helicopter - 3 modified M-14B26B1 engines of 370 h.p. instead of 325 h.p. standard power. All types of engines of our production except M-14PF have Type Certificate of Interstate Aviation Commitee. The Certification has been done under the requirements corresponding to FAR-33. Engines were delivered mostly to the US and some European countries. Apart from new engines supply, OKBM carries out the repair and overhaul of all types of M-14 engines. ATTENTION: OKBM has developed the M-14R engine of 450 h.p. power. The first serial engine will be delivered in Dec.2002 under the contract with "Richard Goode Aerobatics". Those who want to purchase the above engines or the genuine parts and also to make overhaul of the engines we request to address by official channels to our company. We'll be happy to provide necessary technical service to all who are interested in purchasing of our product. (Signed by A.G. Bakanov) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:28 AM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More on Tight Patterns --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" We have to fly a certain pattern due to noise abatement. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More on Tight Patterns > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > At 07:57 PM 12/17/2002, you wrote: > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > > >Granted, but the downwind leg in our pattern here is about 1 mile from the > >field over houses. > > The downwind is as far from the airport as you can make the airplane glide > to the runway. If you are flying a mile from the field you are flying too > far away. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 > +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:37 AM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" I was thumbing through Trade-A-Plane the other day, and I stumbled on and ad I've seen several times, so I decided to call. The ad was for Factory new Yak 9U's at 1/10 the cost of a P-51. Well figuring 1 mil for a Mustang, could it be true that I can have a brand new WWII fighter for just a hundred grand?? Well...............no. The airframe WO engine or prop is $200k, it uses an allison engine which can be had for about $30k and about $12k for a prop. But still $300k when its all said done isnt bad for a new fighter. Still out of my league price wise. While I was chatting with the nice man from Shade Tree Aviation I had mentioned that I fly a CJ and he proceeded to tell me that sometime in Feb he will be announcing a new quick build kit plane that he might be selling. Its an F8 Bear Cat powered by an M-14!! It wont be 100% scale replica but about the size of a CJ. He called this his entry level kit, so I'm assuming that it will be affordable. He has all his planes made by a factory in Russia, I'm not sure which. I'd love to take a look at some of his planes to check out the fit and finish. Ernie ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:55 AM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Doug, Does you stack fit without modification to the bottom cowling exaust holes? A neighbor of mine bought a stack from some guy in WV and the pipes didnt line up so he had to enlarge the holes. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" Subject: Yak-List: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" > > Listers and lurkers > A bit of help is needed to keep Mike DiMarco in the air until I recieve my > next aid package (jan 15th) from China. Mike is in dire need of a useable > L/H lower exhaust segment. Please contact him directly at 253-232-0482. > > My next shipment will include complete stainless steel 285 hp systems as > well as many of the stainless steel right and left hand lower segments. > These stainless steel exhausts should end the problems we have been having > with the "std steel" exhausts on the 285 hp CJ's. > > Merry Christmas to all, and thanks for all your support and business in the > past year. We will be in Colorado Dec 20-28, all calls will be returned on > the 29th. > > Always Yakin, > Doug and Kathleen Sapp > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:41 AM PST US From: cpayne@mc.net Subject: Yak-List: No news --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net Ernie, No news here, there are YPA members flying different "new" versions of the Yak 3/9/11 on the airshow circuit. See the YPA site for pics. I believe the M-14 engined A/C you speak of is the kit version of the Bear 360 that Skip Holm was working on. I'd love to see one, we have had reports of the prototype being sighted at various airports but no joy on big events yet. Craig Payne --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" I was thumbing through Trade-A-Plane the other day, and I stumbled on and ad I've seen several times, so I decided to call. The ad was for Factory new Yak 9U's at 1/10 the cost of a P-51. Well figuring 1 mil for a Mustang, could it be true that I can have a brand new WWII fighter for just a hundred grand?? Well...............no. The airframe WO engine or prop is $200k, it uses an allison engine which can be had for about $30k and about $12k for a prop. But still $300k when its all said done isnt bad for a new fighter. Still out of my league price wise. While I was chatting with the nice man from Shade Tree Aviation I had mentioned that I fly a CJ and he proceeded to tell me that sometime in Feb he will be announcing a new quick build kit plane that he might be selling. Its an F8 Bear Cat powered by an M-14!! It wont be 100% scale replica but about the size of a CJ. He called this his entry level kit, so I'm assuming that it will be affordable. He has all his planes made by a factory in Russia, I'm not sure which. I'd love to take a look at some of his planes to check out the fit and finish. Ernie ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:59 AM PST US From: "Roy O. Wright" Subject: Re: Yak-List: don't forget to reset your clocks! --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" The following web sites: http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/pubs/bulletin/leapsecond.htm http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/earthor/utc/leapsecond.html http://inms-ienm.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/faq/leapsec.html http://greenwichmeantime.com/info/leap-second.htm claim that there will be no leap second this year... I would assume that they are correct, but then again, who knows on the web?... Have fun, Roy ',,'',,'',,',,' Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com Cisco Systems #include "Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build bridges even when there are no rivers." -- attributed to Nikita Khruschev, Soviet Union Premier,1958-1964. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:47 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: RE: Yak-List: What day is it Kids? --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 09:26 AM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > >Flew last night for no other reason than it just needed to be done. Is it >just 100 years, it amazes me that we have come so far in such a short time. >If you look at sailing as a comparrison it took hundreds, if not thousands Look at the changes in everything technical over the last 100 years. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:19:07 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: More on Tight Patterns --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 11:32 AM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > >We have to fly a certain pattern due to noise abatement. Roughly translated, "we have to increase the danger to the community due to noise abatement." I had already figured that out. Still, your neighbors would not like me because safety is more important than noise abatement. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:04 AM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More on Tight Patterns --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Well there are fields all over the place to land if the engine were to quit. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More on Tight Patterns > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > At 11:32 AM 12/18/2002, you wrote: > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > > >We have to fly a certain pattern due to noise abatement. > > Roughly translated, "we have to increase the danger to the community due to > noise abatement." I had already figured that out. Still, your neighbors > would not like me because safety is more important than noise abatement. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 > +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:11 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 11:51 AM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > >I was thumbing through Trade-A-Plane the other day, and I stumbled on and >ad I've seen several times, so I decided to call. The ad was for Factory >new Yak 9U's at 1/10 the cost of a P-51. Well figuring 1 mil for a >Mustang, could it be true that I can have a brand new WWII fighter for >just a hundred grand?? Well...............no. The airframe WO engine or >prop is $200k, it uses an allison engine which can be had for about $30k >and about $12k for a prop. But still $300k when its all said done isnt bad >for a new fighter. Still out of my league price wise. > >While I was chatting with the nice man from Shade Tree Aviation I had >mentioned that I fly a CJ and he proceeded to tell me that sometime in Feb >he will be announcing a new quick build kit plane that he might be >selling. Its an F8 Bear Cat powered by an M-14!! It wont be 100% scale >replica but about the size of a CJ. He called this his entry level kit, so >I'm assuming that it will be affordable. > >He has all his planes made by a factory in Russia, I'm not sure which. I'd >love to take a look at some of his planes to check out the fit and finish. Oh man, you talked to Jim Wickersham. Jim is ... uh ... interesting. I spent a fair amount of time thinking about getting one of his Yak-9Us and visiting since Carson City, NV, was only a 30 minute CJ6A flight from Cameron Park where I was based. Jim also has brand-new Russian M14P engines in the box. Jim talks a lot about the other airplanes he will have. A while back he was going to make full-scale FW-190s, Japanese Zeros, and other WW-II fighters available. My suggestion is to wait until you can see one flying. But he does have Yak-9Us and they are lovely little airplanes, kinda like an RV-4 with an allison engine. : ) You definitely wear this airplane. If you are interested in a P-51 at a reasonable price, you probably want to talk to Gerry Beck of TriState Aviation in Whapeton, ND. (701.642.5777) Gerry has been rebuilding warbirds for some time now and has all the tooling to build P-51A/B airframes. He was at OSH 1.5 years ago with a P-51A airframe and the matching Allison engine to see if anyone was interested. Consider: if you build it yourself from a fast-build kit it falls under the Experimental/Amateur-built category instead of the Experimental/Exhibition category. No travel limitations on those LoLs folks. Something to think about. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:11 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: don't forget to reset your clocks! --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 01:52 PM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" > >The following web sites: > >http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/pubs/bulletin/leapsecond.htm >http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/earthor/utc/leapsecond.html >http://inms-ienm.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/faq/leapsec.html >http://greenwichmeantime.com/info/leap-second.htm > >claim that there will be no leap second this year... I would >assume that they are correct, but then again, who knows on >the web?... Could be. My NTP software was reporting leap second today. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:16 AM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" How much?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > At 11:51 AM 12/18/2002, you wrote: > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > > >I was thumbing through Trade-A-Plane the other day, and I stumbled on and > >ad I've seen several times, so I decided to call. The ad was for Factory > >new Yak 9U's at 1/10 the cost of a P-51. Well figuring 1 mil for a > >Mustang, could it be true that I can have a brand new WWII fighter for > >just a hundred grand?? Well...............no. The airframe WO engine or > >prop is $200k, it uses an allison engine which can be had for about $30k > >and about $12k for a prop. But still $300k when its all said done isnt bad > >for a new fighter. Still out of my league price wise. > > > >While I was chatting with the nice man from Shade Tree Aviation I had > >mentioned that I fly a CJ and he proceeded to tell me that sometime in Feb > >he will be announcing a new quick build kit plane that he might be > >selling. Its an F8 Bear Cat powered by an M-14!! It wont be 100% scale > >replica but about the size of a CJ. He called this his entry level kit, so > >I'm assuming that it will be affordable. > > > >He has all his planes made by a factory in Russia, I'm not sure which. I'd > >love to take a look at some of his planes to check out the fit and finish. > > Oh man, you talked to Jim Wickersham. Jim is ... uh ... interesting. I > spent a fair amount of time thinking about getting one of his Yak-9Us and > visiting since Carson City, NV, was only a 30 minute CJ6A flight from > Cameron Park where I was based. Jim also has brand-new Russian M14P > engines in the box. > > Jim talks a lot about the other airplanes he will have. A while back he > was going to make full-scale FW-190s, Japanese Zeros, and other WW-II > fighters available. My suggestion is to wait until you can see one > flying. But he does have Yak-9Us and they are lovely little airplanes, > kinda like an RV-4 with an allison engine. : > ) You definitely wear this > airplane. > > If you are interested in a P-51 at a reasonable price, you probably want to > talk to Gerry Beck of TriState Aviation in Whapeton, > ND. (701.642.5777) Gerry has been rebuilding warbirds for some time now > and has all the tooling to build P-51A/B airframes. He was at OSH 1.5 > years ago with a P-51A airframe and the matching Allison engine to see if > anyone was interested. Consider: if you build it yourself from a > fast-build kit it falls under the Experimental/Amateur-built category > instead of the Experimental/Exhibition category. No travel limitations on > those LoLs folks. Something to think about. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 > +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:54:39 AM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Merry Christmas to all, and to all a ... --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com In a message dated 12/17/02 9:56:34 PM, Yakjock@msn.com writes: << Mele Kalikimaka a me Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! >> To you as well, Hal. I deeply envy your trip south. Aloha, Blitz ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:22 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oil leaking into the engine From: "Coffey, John" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" Frank, There is an o-ring on the oil pump drive shaft that is crucial in preventing internal oil leak-down in the M-14. It is very easily damaged when you assemble the oil pump to the engine. Make sure you check the condition of this o-ring. Better yet, replace it. More than likely, it's the cause of your leak-down problem. Regards, John Coffey Yak-55m Lover -----Original Message----- From: Frank Haertlein [mailto:yak52driver@earthlink.net] Subject: Yak-List: Oil leaking into the engine --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" "The oil system in the 52 and M14 really does work well". Dennis; I guess I'll have to disassemble the oil pump and give it a good cleaning. I guess that'll take care of the oil leaking into the engine. Thanks for the advice! Frank Chino = ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:46:42 PM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" oops, just found your email! My 285 hp stainless steel systems are an EXACT copy of the original Chinese steel exhaust and will fit without any modification. Best, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > Doug, > > Does you stack fit without modification to the bottom cowling exaust holes? > A neighbor of mine bought a stack from some guy in WV and the pipes didnt > line up so he had to enlarge the holes. > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug" > To: > Subject: Yak-List: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" > > > > Listers and lurkers > > A bit of help is needed to keep Mike DiMarco in the air until I recieve my > > next aid package (jan 15th) from China. Mike is in dire need of a useable > > L/H lower exhaust segment. Please contact him directly at 253-232-0482. > > > > My next shipment will include complete stainless steel 285 hp systems as > > well as many of the stainless steel right and left hand lower segments. > > These stainless steel exhausts should end the problems we have been having > > with the "std steel" exhausts on the 285 hp CJ's. > > > > Merry Christmas to all, and thanks for all your support and business in > the > > past year. We will be in Colorado Dec 20-28, all calls will be returned > on > > the 29th. > > > > Always Yakin, > > Doug and Kathleen Sapp > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:54 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 03:39 PM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > >How much?? For a P-51A/B? Call Gerry. I haven't talked with him for a year so I don't know where he is on the project. It looked like it was going to cost about $300K for a real 100% accurate and full-sized P-51B. Having a North American data plate is nice but not worth $700K to me. BTW, the Allison engine is better built and longer lasting than the RR Merlin. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:27:52 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Cool news From: "BUTLER, FRANCIS" --> Yak-List message posted by: "BUTLER, FRANCIS" I was just down to Mr. Beck's shop a couple of weeks ago. He IS in the process of building up A-model airframes. They are a work of art. Price? I don't know, but I can attest to the quality of work, top notch. They are also some of the nicest folks that you would ever want to do business with. Those of us from the area here are well acquainted with the Beck and Odegaard wardbird restoration shops and the work they turn out. Francis Butler Butler Machinery Co. Fargo, ND (701) 298-1758 direct (701) 476-3208 fax francis_butler@butler-machinery.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian Lloyd [mailto:brian@lloyd.com] Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 03:39 PM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > >How much?? For a P-51A/B? Call Gerry. I haven't talked with him for a year so I don't know where he is on the project. It looked like it was going to cost about $300K for a real 100% accurate and full-sized P-51B. Having a North American data plate is nice but not worth $700K to me. BTW, the Allison engine is better built and longer lasting than the RR Merlin. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:34 PM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Yak-List: CJ main wheel inner tubes --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" Listers and lurkers, Recently we had a posting by a member about finding that his 500x150 tubes were actually to large for the tires. These tubes had been installed in his main wheels and had developed leaks because of the folds which occurred when the too large tube was placed in the CJ tire. I must admit that I thought he had been "smokin his shoe laces", but now I have found that he was in fact correct. We have now discovered a second tube that is marked very clearly 500x150, it is clearly at least 2 inches larger in diameter that the correct CJ tube. The only difference in the tubes we could find was that the correct tube has the roman numeral II after the size markings, while the "too large "tube does not. I checked 16 of the proper sized tubes and all had the Roman numeral II after the size marking. What aircraft this larger tube was used in is unknown, however the "too large" tube we found had in fact been removed from a CJ6 and showed the fold problem one would expect to see after placing it in the smaller tire. So, it would seem that there may be others lurking out there, yet to spring a leak. Best Christmas wishes to all, Doug Sapp ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:58 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Yak-List: Ultimate upgrage --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Just in case anyone gets the urge to put a turbo-prop on their plane. http://www.termikas.balt.net/news/news_images/n9.html Ernie ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:01 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Ultimate upgrage --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 07:29 PM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > >Just in case anyone gets the urge to put a turbo-prop on their plane. > >http://www.termikas.balt.net/news/news_images/n9.html That looks like a Yak-18T airframe. Oh, I see, the URL label says "Yak-18 Turbo." The cruise speed of 173 kts is pretty anemic as is the 500 nm range. Still, if you have a hankerin' for burning kerosene ... Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:14:50 PM PST US From: Gus Fraser Subject: RE: Yak-List: Ultimate upgrage --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser If things work out I may be able to take this to OSH next year. Apparently it is coming into the US in a couple of months. Take off at 50 % power point up until bored or out of Jet A Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Ultimate upgrage --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 07:29 PM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > >Just in case anyone gets the urge to put a turbo-prop on their plane. > >http://www.termikas.balt.net/news/news_images/n9.html That looks like a Yak-18T airframe. Oh, I see, the URL label says "Yak-18 Turbo." The cruise speed of 173 kts is pretty anemic as is the 500 nm range. Still, if you have a hankerin' for burning kerosene ... Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:43 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: TPA From: Barry Hancock --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote: > If you are flying a mile from the field you are flying too > far away. Well, assuming TPA isn't 2500 AGL! :) > Barry Hancock All Red Star (949) 300-5510 radialpower@cox.net www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!" ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:07 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Ultimate upgrage --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 12/18/2002 7:15:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, fraseg@comcast.net writes: > If things work out I may be able to take this to OSH next year. Apparently > it is coming into the US in a couple of months. > Take off at 50 % power point up until bored or out of Jet A > Gus Gus, Becareful with that thing. A number of years ago, I worked on a homebuilt design of a scaled down Spitfire. The engine I was contemplating put in there was quite lite for the airframe and in order to get the weight and balance correct, I needed to extend the nose. The numbers fell in OK, but an aerodynamicist friend insisted on studying the stability of the new setup. He found that the airframe became very unstable with the lengthen nose. I.E. lengthen nose - lengthen tail. I take it someone has already done some flight testing with the Yak, but I bet she don't handel the same. I hope you can get it to MTW/ OSH. Would be cool to have it on the flight line. Jim Goolsby cjpilot710@aol.com 386-467-3313 voice 386-467-3193 fax 386-503-9820cell "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:54 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" ".....the Allison engine is better built and longer lasting than the RR Merlin." Agreed, but still only 250-300 hours max TBO vs. 200 hrs. on the Merlin. Yes, I know. That's a 50% improvement. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > At 03:39 PM 12/18/2002, you wrote: > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > > >How much?? > > For a P-51A/B? Call Gerry. I haven't talked with him for a year so I > don't know where he is on the project. It looked like it was going to cost > about $300K for a real 100% accurate and full-sized P-51B. Having a North > American data plate is nice but not worth $700K to me. > > BTW, the Allison engine is better built and longer lasting than the RR Merlin. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 > +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:46 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 12/18/2002 9:26:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, adsavar@gte.net writes: > > ".....the Allison engine is better built and longer lasting than the RR > Merlin." > Agreed, but still only 250-300 hours max TBO vs. 200 hrs. on the Merlin. > Yes, I know. That's a 50% improvement. > > Dennis Savarese > Hell! At the rate I fly, I'd be doing a overhaul every 2 years!!! At $40,000 a clip - - - - nope still rich for my blood. Jim Goolsby cjpilot710@aol.com 386-467-3313 voice 386-467-3193 fax 386-503-9820cell "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:11 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" I'm with you Jim. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > In a message dated 12/18/2002 9:26:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, > adsavar@gte.net writes: > > > > > > ".....the Allison engine is better built and longer lasting than the RR > > Merlin." > > Agreed, but still only 250-300 hours max TBO vs. 200 hrs. on the Merlin. > > Yes, I know. That's a 50% improvement. > > > > Dennis Savarese > > > Hell! At the rate I fly, I'd be doing a overhaul every 2 years!!! At > $40,000 a clip - - - - nope still rich for my blood. > Jim Goolsby > cjpilot710@aol.com > 386-467-3313 voice > 386-467-3193 fax > 386-503-9820cell > > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > "With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:40 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cool news --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd At 10:23 PM 12/18/2002, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > >".....the Allison engine is better built and longer lasting than the RR >Merlin." >Agreed, but still only 250-300 hours max TBO vs. 200 hrs. on the Merlin. >Yes, I know. That's a 50% improvement. Are you sure? I was under the very strong impression from several sources that the Allison was a 1200+ hour engine as opposed to 400 hours for the Merlin. Allisons were used in stationary power generation applications also and they ran for a long time. The reasons they didn't stay with the Allison in the P-51 were lower overall HP and poor up-high performance due to the single-stage supercharger. I felt this was not a problem because I do not expect to be doing any bomber escort duty at 40,000' and even with the lower HP, a P-51A is still likely to outperform my CJ6A. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:05 PM PST US From: John Alber Subject: Yak-List: More on tight patterns --> Yak-List message posted by: John Alber Thanks for all the advice, guys. I'll work on an overhead break with low power and see how that pans out. I do note that the Termikas Yak 52 manual advises against zero throttle on the approach. We'll experiment. I do think there is great value in repeated practice in engine-out conditions. May just be the tail-dragger pilot in me. Strikes me that I may want to work on my CTAF description for the break, though. I've learned not to call, e.g. "Out of WISKE on the GPS to 18," even though that's accurate, because 90% of the traffic in the pattern will have no idea what I'm talking about. Calling "On the overhead break to 18," as I've heard people call, strikes me as no different. It's all about blending in and helping everyone be smart. John Alber John Alber john@johnalber.com Home 618-675-3553 Work 314-259-2144 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 11:07:30 PM PST US From: YakL1@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: (no subject) --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com Friends and Colleagues: I'm not sure if this originated with the FFA or whether it comes from just your routine pond-scum lawyer-type, but I LIKED it. Hope it gives you all a smile. A blessed Christmas to each of you. John Zecherle CJ-6 911YK From: Jjzecherle@aol.com Subject: (no subject) Ho Ho Ho! Best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral, winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most joyous traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, but with respect for the religious persuasion of others who choose to practice their own religion as well as those who choose not to practice a religion at all; plus... A fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the generally accepted calendar year 2003, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions have helped make our society great, without regard to the race, creed color,religious, or sexual preferences of the wishes. Disclaimer: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others and no responsibility for any unintended emotional stress these greetings may bring to those not caught up in the holiday spirit. PS. The Supreme Court Has ruled that there cannot be a nativity scene in Washington, D.C. this Christmas. This is not for any religious reason. They simply have not been able to find three wise men and a virgin in the Nation's capitol.