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1. 05:41 AM - Ameri-Russky paint (cpayne@mc.net)
2. 06:28 AM - Re: Nose gear seals Yak 52 (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 06:54 AM - Re: Nose gear seals Yak 52 (Gus Fraser)
4. 08:14 AM - Re: Nose gear seals Yak 52 (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 08:25 AM - Re: Nose gear seals Yak 52 (Gus Fraser)
6. 08:57 AM - Paint (Barry Hancock)
7. 09:41 AM - Re: OPINIONS.................... (Bpx2horn@aol.com)
8. 10:33 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/23/02 (John W Finley)
9. 10:33 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/23/02 (John W Finley)
10. 10:41 AM - BEST Paint Shop in Southwest (Phoenix Area) (Mark Schrick)
11. 11:10 AM - Gear troubles (Gus Fraser)
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| Subject: | Ameri-Russky paint |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
Wow! what an airshow paint scheme. My feedback: move the star off the tail
and center on aft fuselage, maybe with a Soviet hero's badge somewhere too.
The "stock" yak-52 paint job in boring, this scheme has the look of an
airshow performer.
OTOH, you could paint it up as Chinese trainer....since all the Chinese
trainer guys have WW-II Russian yak-wannabe paint jobs.
Craig Payne
>Yakkers;
>
>To make a long story short, I gave him a "THEME" and let him be the
>"ARTIST" while not really expecting much from him. I wanted a paint job
>that somehow reflected a combination American/Russian theme in honor of
>their great airplanes, our warming relations, and the freedom America
>embodies. The preliminary design he came up with can be seen at
>http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/Propyak3.jpg
>
>Keep in mind that this is a preliminary and a very rough sketch and
>that's why I'm asking for everyone's opinion. If you like it, say so. If
>you don't, say so. If you have any suggestions, say so. Gimme your
>opinions and don't be bashful!! Let her rip good or bad!! I want this to
>be right! Take a look and let me know what you think!
>
>Frank
>N911OM
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear seals Yak 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Gus,
Two questions.
1. Do you get the same symptoms using the gear selector in the aft cabin?
2. Does your emergency air tank retain it's pressure when the problem
occurs?
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Anyone replaced the main gear seals on a Yak 52 ? I need to get my
actuator
> off and replace my seals and I was wondering if anyone on the list had
> experience of doing this. The problem is that when I select gear down I
get
> air flow continually , sometimes, from the release valve that separates
the
> normal and emergency air system (the one down by the pilots right hand
side
> on the floor). It is suggested that air is escaping round the seal in the
> main actuator and coming out on the low pressure side. Sounds fair to me.
>
> 1. On jacks will I hear a leak as I operate the gear ?
> 2. The nose gear is the one that lags when raised and the problem occurs.
> 3. What is the best way to change the seals ? I do remember someone
posting
> that the best way to do it was to leave the actuator attached on the top
> side and unscrew the lower half of the actuator to service.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Gus Fraser
>
>
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| Subject: | Nose gear seals Yak 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Dennis,
Did not try it from the rear but the Emergency system hold pressure fine.
The gear seals are a 5 year lifted item (ala Mark J) so I am going to have
them replaced on spec. I see no reason messing around with such a critical
component. Never did believe in flying for cheap I am sure you would agree.
Mark also suggested that I pull and service the shuttle valve between the
emergency and normal air systems as the ball may be out off shape.
Why would it be different from the rear as a matter of interest ?
Thanks for your help as always
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Gus,
Two questions.
1. Do you get the same symptoms using the gear selector in the aft cabin?
2. Does your emergency air tank retain it's pressure when the problem
occurs?
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Anyone replaced the main gear seals on a Yak 52 ? I need to get my
actuator
> off and replace my seals and I was wondering if anyone on the list had
> experience of doing this. The problem is that when I select gear down I
get
> air flow continually , sometimes, from the release valve that separates
the
> normal and emergency air system (the one down by the pilots right hand
side
> on the floor). It is suggested that air is escaping round the seal in the
> main actuator and coming out on the low pressure side. Sounds fair to me.
>
> 1. On jacks will I hear a leak as I operate the gear ?
> 2. The nose gear is the one that lags when raised and the problem occurs.
> 3. What is the best way to change the seals ? I do remember someone
posting
> that the best way to do it was to leave the actuator attached on the top
> side and unscrew the lower half of the actuator to service.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Gus Fraser
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear seals Yak 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
I agree with all you've mentioned. As for the reason to check the rear;
because there could be a leak in the gear selector itself.
Happy holidays Gus.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Dennis,
> Did not try it from the rear but the Emergency system hold pressure fine.
> The gear seals are a 5 year lifted item (ala Mark J) so I am going to have
> them replaced on spec. I see no reason messing around with such a critical
> component. Never did believe in flying for cheap I am sure you would
agree.
> Mark also suggested that I pull and service the shuttle valve between the
> emergency and normal air systems as the ball may be out off shape.
>
> Why would it be different from the rear as a matter of interest ?
>
> Thanks for your help as always
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Gus,
> Two questions.
> 1. Do you get the same symptoms using the gear selector in the aft cabin?
> 2. Does your emergency air tank retain it's pressure when the problem
> occurs?
> Dennis Savarese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > Anyone replaced the main gear seals on a Yak 52 ? I need to get my
> actuator
> > off and replace my seals and I was wondering if anyone on the list had
> > experience of doing this. The problem is that when I select gear down I
> get
> > air flow continually , sometimes, from the release valve that separates
> the
> > normal and emergency air system (the one down by the pilots right hand
> side
> > on the floor). It is suggested that air is escaping round the seal in
the
> > main actuator and coming out on the low pressure side. Sounds fair to
me.
> >
> > 1. On jacks will I hear a leak as I operate the gear ?
> > 2. The nose gear is the one that lags when raised and the problem
occurs.
> > 3. What is the best way to change the seals ? I do remember someone
> posting
> > that the best way to do it was to leave the actuator attached on the top
> > side and unscrew the lower half of the actuator to service.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > Gus Fraser
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Nose gear seals Yak 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Thanks Dennis have a great one. I will post pictures and details when I get
it fixed. Looks like a gear down flight to Vermont for me.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
I agree with all you've mentioned. As for the reason to check the rear;
because there could be a leak in the gear selector itself.
Happy holidays Gus.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Dennis,
> Did not try it from the rear but the Emergency system hold pressure fine.
> The gear seals are a 5 year lifted item (ala Mark J) so I am going to have
> them replaced on spec. I see no reason messing around with such a critical
> component. Never did believe in flying for cheap I am sure you would
agree.
> Mark also suggested that I pull and service the shuttle valve between the
> emergency and normal air systems as the ball may be out off shape.
>
> Why would it be different from the rear as a matter of interest ?
>
> Thanks for your help as always
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Gus,
> Two questions.
> 1. Do you get the same symptoms using the gear selector in the aft cabin?
> 2. Does your emergency air tank retain it's pressure when the problem
> occurs?
> Dennis Savarese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Nose gear seals Yak 52
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > Anyone replaced the main gear seals on a Yak 52 ? I need to get my
> actuator
> > off and replace my seals and I was wondering if anyone on the list had
> > experience of doing this. The problem is that when I select gear down I
> get
> > air flow continually , sometimes, from the release valve that separates
> the
> > normal and emergency air system (the one down by the pilots right hand
> side
> > on the floor). It is suggested that air is escaping round the seal in
the
> > main actuator and coming out on the low pressure side. Sounds fair to
me.
> >
> > 1. On jacks will I hear a leak as I operate the gear ?
> > 2. The nose gear is the one that lags when raised and the problem
occurs.
> > 3. What is the best way to change the seals ? I do remember someone
> posting
> > that the best way to do it was to leave the actuator attached on the top
> > side and unscrew the lower half of the actuator to service.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > Gus Fraser
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> I wanted a paint job
> that somehow reflected a combination American/Russian theme in honor of
> their great airplanes, our warming relations,
Warming relations? Have you read the news in the last 48 hours?
Paint a Bear on one side and an Eagle on the other....I'd be awesome and
only cost you about $30K! :)
Merry Christmas...
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: OPINIONS.................... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bpx2horn@aol.com
I like the scheme. Go for it, very original.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/23/02 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
Frank, If you REALLY want to be seen and remembered.. Go for it!...John
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/23/02 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
Gus, If you pressurize the system in the gear down position, and you have
air leaking, put your a/c on jacks and open the return side fitting on
the actuators. The actuator that is leaking will be apparent. Then it is
a simple thing to remove the actuator and replace the "O" rings,
re-grease and re-install. Good luck...John
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| Subject: | BEST Paint Shop in Southwest (Phoenix Area) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net>
I sent them your picture of your Yak 52 and he has a full scale one to do
measurements.
Steve stated that he has some other ideas for GREAT paint schemes for the
Yak 52 and CJ6.
He can hand sketch some of his ideas and send them to you if you wish.
Give him a call. Best painter out 9 shops I visited. All of my YAK 52TW sold
will be
painted by this shop now moving forward.
JABS Custom Paint and Fabrication
Steve Hayes 520-568-4334
www.jabscustoms.com
Good luck
Mark "Shrek" Schrick
Aerostar Factory dealer for the YAK 52TW (Western Region)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Schrick
Subject: Yak-List: OPINIONS............BEST Paint Shop in SouthWEST
(Phoenix Area) less expensive- NO ONE IS BETTER on the WEST COAST!!!
--> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net>
Frank,
These guys can do and WILL do that paint scheme WELL!!!!!
They did Kurby Chamblis EDGE 540 (US Acro Champion) plane with wild yellow
paint scheme w/graphics.
I am having my bare metal YAK 52W being painted there and they only charged
$8500 to do the whole airplane.
Great guys and CRAFTSMEN. Call them and at least talk to them you might be
VERY SURPRISED.
JABS Custom Paint and Fabrication
Steve Hayes 520-568-4334
www.jabscustoms.com
8 airplane bay shop with HUGE paint booth.
Look at some of planes, boats and cars they have done and tell me that
someone else can do a better job for this kind of money.
Mark (SHREK) Schrick
Western USA Dealer for AEROSTAR (Yak 52TW/W)
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, CA 95120
(408) 323-5150 phone/fax
(408) 391-6664 cell
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: OPINIONS....................
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakkers;
I'm ready to have my 52 painted so I've been looking/shopping for a
painter. Only problem was I didn't have a particular paint scheme in
mind.........how the hell do you paint a 52?
That's when I met up with Jean-Paul LeBlanc ( JeanPaul@msn.com ) He's a
painter/artist who serves the custom car market. He's currently working
two projects.........My 52 and a jet powered 46 Willies or something
like that.
To make a long story short, I gave him a "THEME" and let him be the
"ARTIST" while not really expecting much from him. I wanted a paint job
that somehow reflected a combination American/Russian theme in honor of
their great airplanes, our warming relations, and the freedom America
embodies. The preliminary design he came up with can be seen at
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/Propyak3.jpg
Keep in mind that this is a preliminary and a very rough sketch and
that's why I'm asking for everyone's opinion. If you like it, say so. If
you don't, say so. If you have any suggestions, say so. Gimme your
opinions and don't be bashful!! Let her rip good or bad!! I want this to
be right! Take a look and let me know what you think!
Frank
N911OM
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Thanks John,
I think that I will do them all on spec. My aircraft is a 96 and these are a
five year lifted item. Time to do the primer lines as well :(
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John W Finley
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/23/02
--> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
Gus, If you pressurize the system in the gear down position, and you have
air leaking, put your a/c on jacks and open the return side fitting on
the actuators. The actuator that is leaking will be apparent. Then it is
a simple thing to remove the actuator and replace the "O" rings,
re-grease and re-install. Good luck...John
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