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1. 01:14 PM - Fuel tanks (Ernie)
2. 01:37 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Gus Fraser)
3. 01:37 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Brian Lloyd)
4. 01:43 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Doug)
5. 02:11 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Craig Payne)
6. 05:27 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (seancrotty@aol.com)
7. 11:33 PM - 2nd Annual Red Star West (Drew Blahnick)
8. 11:42 PM - As in (Drew Blahnick)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Lately my fuel imbalance has been getting worse. Today I flew and came back with
the left tank almost on 0 and the right tank on 50. This has got to be something
more than just flying out of trim. I understand that there are check valves
between the wing tanks and the floor tank. Can they be inspected?
Also I've developed a small oil leak behind the prop on the shaft. The gills are
getting oily and there is usually a small pool of oil on the gill inner ring.
Where is this oil most likely coming from, the shaft/engine seal, or the prop
ring?
And finally, I saw a thread regarding the air seals in the gear actuators. Has
any one written up an overhaul procedure for these. I cant find anything in my
manuals. Actually my manuals dont seem to have anything of much relevance to
day to day maintenance. Am I missing a manual. I have the engine manual (which
doesnt have much info either) and the "CHUJIA-6 Airplane Technical Specification
for Service and Maintenance" which in my opinion stinks. What I'm looking
for is a manual which explains the maintenance procedures. Does such a manual
exist?
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Ernie,
I really thought the same as you that it has to be more but since I got my
aircraft in trip it has been fine. Just play with the rudder trim until it
gets even then take out residual roll trip. It really is that simple most of
the time. If not what some people do is to just score the flapper valves
that stop cross flow between tanks. The score is just enough to stop a
pressure blockage that holds the flap closed but still good enough to stop
the cross flow.
Gus
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tanks
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Lately my fuel imbalance has been getting worse. Today I flew and came back
with the left tank almost on 0 and the right tank on 50. This has got to be
something more than just flying out of trim. I understand that there are
check valves between the wing tanks and the floor tank. Can they be
inspected?
Also I've developed a small oil leak behind the prop on the shaft. The gills
are getting oily and there is usually a small pool of oil on the gill inner
ring. Where is this oil most likely coming from, the shaft/engine seal, or
the prop ring?
And finally, I saw a thread regarding the air seals in the gear actuators.
Has any one written up an overhaul procedure for these. I cant find anything
in my manuals. Actually my manuals dont seem to have anything of much
relevance to day to day maintenance. Am I missing a manual. I have the
engine manual (which doesnt have much info either) and the "CHUJIA-6
Airplane Technical Specification for Service and Maintenance" which in my
opinion stinks. What I'm looking for is a manual which explains the
maintenance procedures. Does such a manual exist?
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
At 05:11 PM 12/29/2002, you wrote:
>Technical Specification for Service and Maintenance" which in my opinion
>stinks. What I'm looking for is a manual which explains the maintenance
>procedures. Does such a manual exist?
Try http://www.cj6.org/cj6_docs and see if there is something there to help
you.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Ste 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 +1.360.838.9669
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ernie,
The manual which has the step by step overhaul procedures for all the
airframe accessories is called "PT-6 Trainer Aircraft Overhaul Manual for
Airframe Accessories" The original manual was loaned to me by Dave King
who was kind enough to allow me to copy it. The price is $35.00, which is
basically the cost of binding, copying and a sixer of that Chinese beer that
I cannot remember how to spell. This manual covers everything from the prop
to the wheels and brakes and most everything in between.
Contact me off list if you want to order.
Happy New Year from Omak,
Doug and Kathleen Sapp
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From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tanks
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Lately my fuel imbalance has been getting worse. Today I flew and came
back with the left tank almost on 0 and the right tank on 50. This has got
to be something more than just flying out of trim. I understand that there
are check valves between the wing tanks and the floor tank. Can they be
inspected?
>
> Also I've developed a small oil leak behind the prop on the shaft. The
gills are getting oily and there is usually a small pool of oil on the gill
inner ring. Where is this oil most likely coming from, the shaft/engine
seal, or the prop ring?
>
> And finally, I saw a thread regarding the air seals in the gear actuators.
Has any one written up an overhaul procedure for these. I cant find anything
in my manuals. Actually my manuals dont seem to have anything of much
relevance to day to day maintenance. Am I missing a manual. I have the
engine manual (which doesnt have much info either) and the "CHUJIA-6
Airplane Technical Specification for Service and Maintenance" which in my
opinion stinks. What I'm looking for is a manual which explains the
maintenance procedures. Does such a manual exist?
>
> Ernie
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Ernie,
Don't fix what ain't broke. Doug can handle Item #3.
As for the fuel inbalance: FIRST level the airplane side to side; use a
carpenter's 36" or 48" level laid up on the cockpit sides. With the
aircraft level, sit in the cockpit and check if the slip-skid balls are
centered on the AI and main yaw indicator. If not centered, loosen the
Adjusting screws and center. *Stuff* moves around in any airplane where
there is and adjustment. Then go fly somewher, taking particular care to
center the ball. Pretend there is an FAA man checking you from the back
seat. If there still is a big difference, then try some of the other
remedies.
Prop leak: FIRST, remove the dome, and shaft locking rings so you can
re-tighten the oil shaft using your 22mm deep well or prop tool. This
has been the #1 prop leak problem for me on BOTH Chinese and Russian
props. Eventually the seal gets mashed flat and loses "give", I made up
a gasket and used an o-ring. Big improvement.
Good Luck
Craig Payne
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Lately my fuel imbalance has been getting worse. Today I flew and came back with
the left tank almost on 0 and the right tank on 50. This has got to be something
more than just flying out of trim. I understand that there are check valves
between the wing tanks and the floor tank. Can they be inspected?
>
> Also I've developed a small oil leak behind the prop on the shaft. The gills
are getting oily and there is usually a small pool of oil on the gill inner ring.
Where is this oil most likely coming from, the shaft/engine seal, or the prop
ring?
>
> And finally, I saw a thread regarding the air seals in the gear actuators. Has
any one written up an overhaul procedure for these. I cant find anything in
my manuals. Actually my manuals dont seem to have anything of much relevance to
day to day maintenance. Am I missing a manual. I have the engine manual (which
doesnt have much info either) and the "CHUJIA-6 Airplane Technical Specification
for Service and Maintenance" which in my opinion stinks. What I'm looking
for is a manual which explains
>
> Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: seancrotty@aol.com
Hey Doug,
I'm Sean Crotty past AF pilot out of McChord and now I have a business that
gets me up your way now and then. I have flown a few CJ-6's and would love a
chance to buy you lunch on my way through Omak next time. I have a client in
Wenatchee and another in Penticton so I get through there quite a bit. Just
would like to pick your brain on a few options I'm looking at. Best to you
and yours for the coming New Year and Fly Safe.
Sean
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| Subject: | 2nd Annual Red Star West |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
Folks,
The new year is almost here, so let me get this out early;
The 2nd Annual All Red Star West gathering is currently scheduled for April 29th
through May 4th (Wed - Sun).
Last years event was a great success with over 35 aircraft visiting with a Red
Star somewhere on the aluminum, past or present.
This years event will once again take place at Castle Airpark, a former B-52 base
near Merced California. The general schedule will include a Ground School
(flight subject) in the morning, Field-Maintenance seminars at mid-day during
lunch (provided on the flight line as last year), and classroom presentation in
the late afternoon as required with subjects such as bailout and parachute care,
systems maintenance and overhaul, etc. Flying will be scheduled throughout
the day. We have a go on an aerobatic box on the field this year.
With the support of regional volunteers, we will hold a YPA formation clinic to
kick off the event, this will roll into more advanced classroom and flying courses
in ACM, Tactical Military Formations, Unusual Attitude recovery, Mountain
Flying and Aerobatic Routines.
Guests invited include:
ME-14 Mechanics (Vladimir will be attending on Sat), Airframe Mechanics, MT Propeller
Techs, a Prop Balancing and Engine Vibration Specialist, Parachute Instructor
and Aerobatic Instructors. We have an ACE who would like to attend and
with the proper documented training/experience, you may be able to test for an
altitude waiver card.
If you are bringing your wife/girlfriend, Ron Lee's GIB (Girlfriend-in-back) Betsy
has volunteered as the Female GIB Event Coordinator; she will be setting up
van-pool trips during the day to places like San Francisco for shopping, Yosemite
Valley day-hike, etc. What better way to get your wife to let you fly than
to bring her along! She will also be setting up off-Castle hotels specifically
for coupled attendees.
The Annual "Last Man Standing" CRUD TOURNAMENT also returns to Red Star. This
year we will accept preregistered teams, so if you are associated with a newly
formed local area Squadron, this might be the place to demonstrate your superior
teamwork and eye-hand-ball-beer coordination. Hopefully Skip will return
as the LSO for Carrier landings, as I know we all want to see Jim Goolsby on short
final again...
As per last year, we will use www.allredstar.com ("current ops") to get the latest
word out on schedules, what to bring, costs, etc.
And yes, we did listen to your feedback last year and hired a new banquet caterer!
Drew Allen Blahnick
310.386.9181
www.allredstar.com
California Condors Squadron
"Communism: Lousy Politics - Excellent Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
M-14...
;)
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