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1. 08:46 AM - Quiet out here (Ernie)
2. 08:59 AM - Re: Quiet out here (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 09:10 AM - Balmy FLA (cpayne@mc.net)
4. 09:19 AM - Re: Quiet out here (alikatz@mbay.net)
5. 09:26 AM - Re: Balmy FLA (Ernie)
6. 09:34 AM - Re: Balmy FLA (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 10:03 AM - Re: Quiet out here (Brian Lloyd)
8. 10:40 AM - Undercarriage problems (Jay McIntyre)
9. 11:17 AM - Re: Undercarriage problems (Brian Lloyd)
10. 02:19 PM - Re: Balmy FLA (Michael Di Marco)
11. 03:10 PM - Re: Undercarriage problems (Gus Fraser)
12. 03:49 PM - Questions (General Equipment Internet Email)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Man its quiet out here, I guess the cold has constricted the internet. Its even
a balmy 25 degrees here in Central Fl.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet out here |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Sure is Ernie! Here in the Montgomery, AL area it's 21 degrees. It was in
the single digits last night.
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Quiet out here
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
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> Man its quiet out here, I guess the cold has constricted the internet. Its
even a balmy 25 degrees here in Central Fl.
>
> Ernie
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
Ha! NOW you need a heater in the CJ. Mine has heat but I really do need
a crew chief to warm it up and taxi it up near the ready room so I don't
get chilled by the walk!
Craig Payne
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Man its quiet out here, I guess the cold has constricted the internet. Its even
a balmy 25 degrees here in Central Fl.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet out here |
--> Yak-List message posted by: alikatz@mbay.net
Very quiet.. Weather's crystal clear here in California, it's about 63 degrees.
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Man its quiet out here, I guess the cold has constricted the internet. Its
even a balmy 25
degrees here in Central Fl.
>
> Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I shoulda kept my mouth shut earlier in the week. I'm not leaving the house
until its 80 again.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Balmy FLA
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
>
> Ha! NOW you need a heater in the CJ. Mine has heat but I really do need
> a crew chief to warm it up and taxi it up near the ready room so I don't
> get chilled by the walk!
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Man its quiet out here, I guess the cold has constricted the internet. Its
even a balmy 25 degrees here in Central Fl.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
10-4!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Balmy FLA
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I shoulda kept my mouth shut earlier in the week. I'm not leaving the
house
> until its 80 again.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cpayne@mc.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Balmy FLA
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
> >
> > Ha! NOW you need a heater in the CJ. Mine has heat but I really do need
> > a crew chief to warm it up and taxi it up near the ready room so I don't
> > get chilled by the walk!
> >
> > Craig Payne
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> >
> > Man its quiet out here, I guess the cold has constricted the internet.
Its
> even a balmy 25 degrees here in Central Fl.
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> >
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Message 7
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet out here |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Sure is Ernie! Here in the Montgomery, AL area it's 21 degrees. It was in
> the single digits last night.
Hmm, it is still 80F here.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
Message 8
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| Subject: | Undercarriage problems |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com>
Anyone ever had the following problem...
Whilst engaged in some formation practice for a show yesterday, one of the guys
noticed one of the other CJ's nose gear slowing extending. It extended fully
and the practice was terminated.
The gear was selected down and all was good. On cycling the gear all three unlocked
but hung in that position. The gear wascycleddown again and then up - this
time the mains retractedbut the nose gear stayed firmly in the down position.
The A/cwas returned to base andjacked.Retraction tests were carried out and the
gear retracted no problems,althoughthere seemed to be a leak from the front selector.
As the NLG actuator seals had been replaced a few hours ago theactuator
was tested for leakage across the piston - no problems there. After this test
the gear worked fine with no leaks.
My thoughts are that there must be something screwy going on as for the gear to
extend like that the uplock would have to release it in the first place, but
of course the gear wasn't selected down!!
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
<EM>
Regards, Jay
</EM>P.S. see you at Classic Fighters 2003!
<A href="http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/">www.classicfighters.co.nz
Message 9
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| Subject: | Re: Undercarriage problems |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Jay McIntyre wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Anyone ever had the following problem... Whilst engaged in some formation
> practice for a show yesterday, one of the guys noticed one of the other CJ's
> nose gear slowing extending. It extended fully and the practice was
> terminated. The gear was selected down and all was good. On cycling the gear
> all three unlocked but hung in that position. The gear wascycleddown again
> and then up - this time the mains retractedbut the nose gear stayed firmly in
> the down position. The A/cwas returned to base andjacked.Retraction tests
> were carried out and the gear retracted no problems,althoughthere seemed to
> be a leak from the front selector. As the NLG actuator seals had been
> replaced a few hours ago theactuator was tested for leakage across the piston
> - no problems there. After this test the gear worked fine with no leaks. My
> thoughts are that there must be something screwy going on as for the gear to
> extend like that the uplock would have to release it in the first place, but
> of course the gear wasn't selected down!! Any thoughts would be greatly
> appreciated!
Look for a leak in the emergency gear extension valve. Also look for a stuck
shuttle valve between the main and emergency pneumatic systems. It sounds like
the emergency side of the system is becoming pressurized either through a leak
in one of the shuttle valves or from the emergency air supply. You might not
notice the leak because the compressor is keeping the emergency bottle refilled.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
Message 10
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Michael Di Marco <mgdimarco@yahoo.com>
Thank goodness I have one of those construction site LP Heaters and Heat pads on
the oil tank and prop sump. All I need is my exhaust parts and I'm airbourne
in central Florida.
Global Warming my a$$!
Mike
China Blue
"A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: "A.
Dennis Savarese"
10-4!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie"
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Balmy FLA
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie"
>
> I shoulda kept my mouth shut earlier in the week. I'm not leaving the
house
> until its 80 again.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Subject: Yak-List: Balmy FLA
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
> >
> > Ha! NOW you need a heater in the CJ. Mine has heat but I really do need
> > a crew chief to warm it up and taxi it up near the ready room so I don't
> > get chilled by the walk!
> >
> > Craig Payne
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie"
> >
> > Man its quiet out here, I guess the cold has constricted the internet.
Its
> even a balmy 25 degrees here in Central Fl.
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Undercarriage problems |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Yep, as a man who has just found out he has squashed balls I agree. I would
also check the up locks though. It is very strange that the nose gear slowly
extended. Yep you got squashed balls too.
Gus Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Undercarriage problems
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Jay McIntyre wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Anyone ever had the following problem... Whilst engaged in some formation
> practice for a show yesterday, one of the guys noticed one of the other
CJ's
> nose gear slowing extending. It extended fully and the practice was
> terminated. The gear was selected down and all was good. On cycling the
gear
> all three unlocked but hung in that position. The gear wascycleddown again
> and then up - this time the mains retractedbut the nose gear stayed firmly
in
> the down position. The A/cwas returned to base andjacked.Retraction tests
> were carried out and the gear retracted no problems,althoughthere seemed
to
> be a leak from the front selector. As the NLG actuator seals had been
> replaced a few hours ago theactuator was tested for leakage across the
piston
> - no problems there. After this test the gear worked fine with no leaks.
My
> thoughts are that there must be something screwy going on as for the gear
to
> extend like that the uplock would have to release it in the first place,
but
> of course the gear wasn't selected down!! Any thoughts would be greatly
> appreciated!
Look for a leak in the emergency gear extension valve. Also look for a
stuck
shuttle valve between the main and emergency pneumatic systems. It sounds
like
the emergency side of the system is becoming pressurized either through a
leak
in one of the shuttle valves or from the emergency air supply. You might
not
notice the leak because the compressor is keeping the emergency bottle
refilled.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "General Equipment Internet Email" <general@generalequip.com>
Two questions:
1) I have a Housai. Does anyone have a replacement T-fitting located between the
fuel pump and the fuel hose to the carburetor that is available?
2) I have not been able to locate any values for proper rudder and elevator cable
tensions in the related written materials. I assume these values are somewhat
typical of that found for our General Aviation aircraft. Are there, indeed,
some written values?
Thanks
Dennis Von Ruden
general@genmeralequip.com
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