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1. 02:02 AM - Re: What was this list for??? (Kevin Pilling)
2. 06:56 AM - Re: OSH house (Terry Calloway)
3. 08:37 AM - TSA Brute Force Legislation (Carl W Hays Enterprises)
4. 08:54 AM - MTW & OSH Housing (cpayne@mc.net)
5. 10:34 AM - B&C Alternator is Sold (Jeff Linebaugh)
6. 12:12 PM - Hey- hay (Mark Jefferies)
7. 12:32 PM - Re: MTW & OSH Housing (Ernie)
8. 03:03 PM - Re: MTW & OSH Housing (Craig Payne)
9. 05:30 PM - Re: Hey- hay (Ernie)
10. 07:50 PM - Re: Police states, etc. (swansonon)
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| Subject: | Re: What was this list for??? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling@btclick.com>
I'd be careful about how loud you shout on this one !
I think the ANO has something to say about flight below 500 ft
and within 1000 ft of structures or people.
You never know who's lurking on the list.
kp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: What was this list for???
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Speaking of which, in England I was out flying over Salisbury Plain, down
> over Stonehenge with my sister as my GIB doing some aeros. The landscape
is
> slow rolling countryside, excellent A10 country. I was doing some serious
> nap of the land, bouncing up for hedges. Imagine my suprise when I came
over
> the lip of a hill inverted to see the Royal Artillery Hunt in full flow.
As
> Oscar Wilde said the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable. I was about
50
> to 100 feet up, there were horses and hounds everywhere. It is amazing how
a
> pack of hounds and horses react to a big thumping M14P at full tilt. Good
> news though I did see the fox get away to make it another day.
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
Barry et al,Thanks for the offer, but the idea of no traffic and restruants with
seating was too much to pass up. So far Bob Watts, Keith Harbour, Rodger Modglin
and myself will be staying in Manitowoc.
This way we get to fly every day too. Last hear was a real hoot, given the opportunity
to fly in and out of Oshkosh every day.
If anyone would like to choose this option and join us in the nice downtown hotel
that is adjoining an excellent Chinese Restruant the information is:
Location: Heritage Inn
Address: 908 Washington Steet, Manitowoc, WI
Phone #: 920.682.8271
Thanks,
tc
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| Subject: | TSA Brute Force Legislation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts@simplyweb.net>
Group
>
> If you want to be proactive on the TSA ruling, submit your comments at this websitehttp://dms.dot.gov/
20
> TSA-2002-13732
> TSA-2002-13733
> and FAA-2003-14293
>
> Jill Gernetzke
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| Subject: | MTW & OSH Housing |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
Oshkosh Yakkers
I checked rooms and prices for the MTW event. For a great weekly rate,
the Heritage Inn that Terry mentioned will charge $189 + tx for a single
and $249 + tx for a double. On a daily basis, the Super 8 offers $43.08
on a single and $48 for a double. Tax is 11% in Manitowoc.
Myself, I'm doing half at MTW in the Super 8 and half at the OSH dorms.
Group rates are actually HIGHER because of the room set aside during
Oshkosh. OSH, soaks up *every* room and rental car for a mega-mile radius
during Air Venture.
Barry's home rental is also a great deal, I just don't need all those
crowds between me and the bar when the flyings done :
}
Craig Payne
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
Barry et al,Thanks for the offer, but the idea of no traffic and restruants with
seating was too much to pass up. So far Bob Watts, Keith Harbour, Rodger Modglin
and myself will be staying in Manitowoc.
This way we get to fly every day too. Last hear was a real hoot, given the opportunity
to fly in and out of Oshkosh every day.
If anyone would like to choose this option and join us in the nice downtown hotel
that is adjoining an excellent Chinese Restruant the information is:
Location: Heritage Inn
Address: 908 Washington Steet, Manitowoc, WI
Phone #: 920.682.8271
Thanks,
tc
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| Subject: | B&C Alternator is Sold |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Wow...
Within 10 minutes of posting the add for my buddy to sell his alternator, I
started getting calls....
The alternator is sold. Gary thanks you all for the responses. (I think he
wishes he had a stash of the things!)
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark@yakuk.com>
>any advice on the type of hay we
>should be feeding a mare?
-Make sure that the hay you get is dust free. ALWAYS wash down the hay
-before feeding as it will reduce the chances of colic.
soaking hay reduces partials that cause reparatory problems-but don't oversoak
or you will lose the nutrients
Best regards for the new year, Mark Jefferies
For YAK UK Ltd www.yakuk.com
Lt Gransden Airfield
Sandy, Beds
SG19 3BP
England.
tel +44 (0)1767 651156.
fax +44 (0)1767 651157
Mobile +44 (0)7785 538 317
Conditions and terms of business www.yakuk.com/cob.doc
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| Subject: | Re: MTW & OSH Housing |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Last year I was able to get a room 3 days before the event on Hotels.com at
a motel 1 mile from OSH, then when I flew into Appleton there was an ample
supply of cars.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: Yak-List: MTW & OSH Housing
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
>
> Oshkosh Yakkers
>
> I checked rooms and prices for the MTW event. For a great weekly rate,
> the Heritage Inn that Terry mentioned will charge $189 + tx for a single
> and $249 + tx for a double. On a daily basis, the Super 8 offers $43.08
> on a single and $48 for a double. Tax is 11% in Manitowoc.
>
> Myself, I'm doing half at MTW in the Super 8 and half at the OSH dorms.
> Group rates are actually HIGHER because of the room set aside during
> Oshkosh. OSH, soaks up *every* room and rental car for a mega-mile radius
> during Air Venture.
>
> Barry's home rental is also a great deal, I just don't need all those
> crowds between me and the bar when the flyings done :
> }
>
>
> Craig Payne
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway"
<TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
>
> Barry et al,Thanks for the offer, but the idea of no traffic and
restruants with seating was too much to pass up. So far Bob Watts, Keith
Harbour, Rodger Modglin and myself will be staying in Manitowoc.
>
> This way we get to fly every day too. Last hear was a real hoot, given
the opportunity to fly in and out of Oshkosh every day.
>
> If anyone would like to choose this option and join us in the nice
downtown hotel that is adjoining an excellent Chinese Restruant the
information is:
>
> Location: Heritage Inn
> Address: 908 Washington Steet, Manitowoc, WI
> Phone #: 920.682.8271
>
> Thanks,
> tc
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MTW & OSH Housing |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Yep, and sometimes you get lucky. Kinda like a tailwind to AND from your
destination. Me, I do my flight planning early. I have been going to the
EAA fly-in since they met at Rockford; except for the years I "worked"
for Uncle Sam.
Even did the Appleton car thing. Dropped my GIB and headed back to OSH.
Guess what, he drove down and got there BEFORE me as I had to fly down
along the West end of the lake and come back via Warbird arrival. I had
more fun though.
Craig Payne
Ernie wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Last year I was able to get a room 3 days before the event on Hotels.com at
> a motel 1 mile from OSH, then when I flew into Appleton there was an ample
> supply of cars.
>
> Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Ok guys, I was trying to make a point, I dont really care about hay and I
dont have a sore bum, but thanks anyway.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Jefferies" <mark@yakuk.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Hey- hay
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark@yakuk.com>
>
> >any advice on the type of hay we
> >should be feeding a mare?
> -Make sure that the hay you get is dust free. ALWAYS wash down the hay
> -before feeding as it will reduce the chances of colic.
>
> soaking hay reduces partials that cause reparatory problems-but don't
oversoak or you will lose the nutrients
>
>
> Best regards for the new year, Mark Jefferies
> For YAK UK Ltd www.yakuk.com
> Lt Gransden Airfield
> Sandy, Beds
> SG19 3BP
> England.
> tel +44 (0)1767 651156.
> fax +44 (0)1767 651157
> Mobile +44 (0)7785 538 317
> Conditions and terms of business www.yakuk.com/cob.doc
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Police states, etc. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "swansonon" <swansonon@msn.com>
That's right! We certainly don't have any folks from this country doing that
kind of thing in the name of religion! Except maybe the KKK, the killers of
OB-GYNs, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Police states, etc.
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Let us open our arms and welcome all the peoples of the world. Let them
> understand our passion for freedom. Let them understand our American
> ways of justice for all, equality, freedom and all that America stands
> for. We have freedom of speech, freedom of religion........all the
> worlds religions understand that.....don't they? Our ways are the way of
> the world....right? I mean....why would any religion want to destroy the
> US and the freedoms it stands for? After all, they understand
> freedom.......don't they? The founding fathers and their espousing
> freedom of religion never envisioned the violent teachings of islam.
>
> islam is incompatible with freedom. Either it is their way (theocracy)
> or it is not valid as a form of governance. As some have said....."The
> lack of action and passion on the part of those of us who proclaim
> disdain for the liberal agenda is the sole reason we find ourselves in
> this" is the exact reason we have this problem of arab axremists in this
> country. Some belife sytems are totally incompatible with our concepts
> of freedom. islam is one of those. It will forever breed violent
> extremists bent on our destruction.
>
> The extreme beleivers of islam hold this way of thinking close to their
> heart. No resoned argument can disuade them from it. As 911 so clearly
> demonstrates, they seek to kill as many Americans as possible.
>
> So then as so many have said, let us practice tolerance towards the
> practitioners of islam.....for, after all, they will understand our open
> arms, our tolerance of other religions, our freedoms........and thus
> they will become enlightened and thus never attack us (well BULL shit!).
>
> I say....never hand your enemy a stick for he may beat over the pointed
> head with it!
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
> To: Yak-list
> Subject: Yak-List: Police states, etc.
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Well, the Super Bowl is anything *but* again, so if I may engage in a
> little self-indulgence here...
>
> > "In Germany they [the Nazis] came first for the Communists, and I
> > didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the
> > Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for
>
> > the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade
> > unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up
> > because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no
>
> > one was left to speak up."
> > -- Pastor Martin Niemoeller, 1946
>
>
> The above is dead on the money WRT what is "wrong" (i.e. the cause of)
> with the direction of the United States of America. The lack of action
> and passion on the part of those of us who proclaim disdain for the
> liberal agenda is the sole reason we find ourselves in this (declining,
>
> if not down right destructive) state of affairs. I'm just as guilty as
> the next guy when it comes to lack of action. I write my public
> representatives, yet only occasionally, so I'm not going to get on the
> bully pulpit here. However, if we want to save this country from
> itself, action on the part of us who have similar feelings is the ONLY
> way it can be prevented.
>
> I have had private discussions with many of you on this list, and we all
>
> have a genuine fear for the direction of this great nation. We only
> need to compare the spirit and content of our Constitution to the
> current state of affairs in this country to know how dangerously close
> we are to becoming that very nation from which our forefathers fled.
>
> As it directly pertains to the FAA, however, I'll use the certification
>
> of my new CJ as a prime example. Without going into details, it clearly
>
> states right in the FAR's that the CJ falls into a Special Rules
> category WRT the display of "EXPERIMENTAL" in the cockpit. Simply put,
> the FAR's clearly state that the CJ can be operated *without* the
> "EXPERIMENTAL" placard in the aircraft if "NX" is used in the tail
> number because it meets certain criterion. However, my DAR is so
> fearful that the local FSDO will be in an uproar, "don't step on your
> d**k" was his exact quote, that he wants me to get the plane certified
> with the "boiler plate" Ops. Specs. to avoid "red tagging" my airplane
> in the future. In other words, they'd make my life difficult because I
> made them actually read and comply with the very regulations our tax
> dollars pay them to understand. I will approach the FSDO after my plane
> is flying to address this issue...until then I have other ways to play
> the game, but that is not the point.
>
> It is infuriating to me, but I'm not willing to delay certification nor
> stir up a hornets nest and have the FAA make my life any more difficult
> than it already is. They've done it to several people in the past and
> know that we are powerless to change it...unless we are willing to spend
>
> as much in legal fees as we have spent on our airplanes to fight it. It
>
> is corrupt, plain and simple.
>
> It is clear, Frank, that "the reality we live in these days" is one that
>
> will eventually lead to the stripping of our rights, flying and
> otherwise, to such an extent that the values that made this country the
> greatest in the world will only be a sad memory. The *only* way this
> will not happen, is if we each take it upon ourselves to stand up and be
>
> counted as a voice of opposition to this bureaucratic FUBAR.
>
> 30 years from now, I can just hear my son's child "Yeah, my grand-daddy
> flew warbirds." "You mean they used to let people *fly* those things?"
>
>
> Barry Hancock
> 949.300.5510
> www.allredstar.com
> California Condors Squadron
> "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
>
>
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
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