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1. 06:39 AM - Sun N Fun race (cpayne@mc.net)
2. 07:32 AM - Re: Sun N Fun race (Ernie)
3. 08:34 AM - Race power (cpayne@mc.net)
4. 08:41 AM - Re: Race power (Ernie)
5. 10:56 AM - Screw Sizes (Ernie)
6. 11:11 AM - Re: Screw Sizes (Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC)
7. 11:20 AM - Re: Screw Sizes (A. Dennis Savarese)
8. 12:05 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC)
9. 12:09 PM - For Bob Haley (Drew Blahnick)
10. 12:32 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (A. Dennis Savarese)
11. 01:03 PM - Tom Elliot (MFilucci@aol.com)
12. 01:49 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Doug)
13. 01:59 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Doug)
14. 02:13 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Brian Lloyd)
15. 02:14 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Ernie)
16. 02:19 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (A. Dennis Savarese)
17. 02:25 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Ernie)
18. 04:42 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Craig Payne)
19. 07:29 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Ernie)
20. 08:09 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Walt Lannon)
21. 08:19 PM - Re: Screw Sizes (Craig Payne)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
Sun n Funner's,
Got a big, mean 400hp, 3-blade Yak? Maybe a shiny
CJ with smooth paint and an M14P? Even a standard
285hp CJ "square-rigged" dealer demo, prepped &
tuned by the most experienced experts in this
country?
Here is your chance to strut your stuff! Just sent
my entry into Aircraft Spruce for the SUN 60,
which is a production "race". This year awards
will go to the top 3 finishers in each class. I
guess the spammers must have complained about all
the warbirds eating up the trophies so now there
are 3 rather than 2 for each class.
3 or more A/C of the same type can have their own
class. If not enough Yaks or 'Changs show up I'll
just have to dine on Spam again in the 270-400hp
Open class :>)
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Sun N Fun race |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I dont know if I'd want to subject my engine to balls to the wall for an
hour.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Sun N Fun race
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
>
> Sun n Funner's,
>
> Got a big, mean 400hp, 3-blade Yak? Maybe a shiny
> CJ with smooth paint and an M14P? Even a standard
> 285hp CJ "square-rigged" dealer demo, prepped &
> tuned by the most experienced experts in this
> country?
>
> Here is your chance to strut your stuff! Just sent
> my entry into Aircraft Spruce for the SUN 60,
> which is a production "race". This year awards
> will go to the top 3 finishers in each class. I
> guess the spammers must have complained about all
> the warbirds eating up the trophies so now there
> are 3 rather than 2 for each class.
>
> 3 or more A/C of the same type can have their own
> class. If not enough Yaks or 'Changs show up I'll
> just have to dine on Spam again in the 270-400hp
> Open class :>)
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
>I dont know if I'd want to subject my engine to balls to the wall for an
>hour.
>
>Ernie
An Hour?? You can't get that thing 60 miles in an hour! Try about 20 mins
and it's within book limits at 2250 rpm for your engine. Reduce RPM after
TO (although it will hurt speed) and leave the MAP up as the Huosai doesn't
generate that much boost anyway.
I have successfully run the Huosai at 2650 rpm but I don't recommend it.
Craig Payne
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Sun N Fun race
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
>
> Sun n Funner's,
>
> Got a big, mean 400hp, 3-blade Yak? Maybe a shiny
> CJ with smooth paint and an M14P? Even a standard
> 285hp CJ "square-rigged" dealer demo, prepped &
> tuned by the most experienced experts in this
> country?
>
> Here is your chance to strut your stuff! Just sent
> my entry into Aircraft Spruce for the SUN 60,
> which is a production "race". This year awards
> will go to the top 3 finishers in each class. I
> guess the spammers must have complained about all
> the warbirds eating up the trophies so now there
> are 3 rather than 2 for each class.
>
> 3 or more A/C of the same type can have their own
> class. If not enough Yaks or 'Changs show up I'll
> just have to dine on Spam again in the 270-400hp
> Open class :>)
>
> Craig Payne
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
hmmmm, well in that case :)
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Race power
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
>
>
> >I dont know if I'd want to subject my engine to balls to the wall for an
> >hour.
> >
> >Ernie
>
> An Hour?? You can't get that thing 60 miles in an hour! Try about 20 mins
> and it's within book limits at 2250 rpm for your engine. Reduce RPM after
> TO (although it will hurt speed) and leave the MAP up as the Huosai
doesn't
> generate that much boost anyway.
>
> I have successfully run the Huosai at 2650 rpm but I don't recommend it.
>
> Craig Payne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cpayne@mc.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Sun N Fun race
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
> >
> > Sun n Funner's,
> >
> > Got a big, mean 400hp, 3-blade Yak? Maybe a shiny
> > CJ with smooth paint and an M14P? Even a standard
> > 285hp CJ "square-rigged" dealer demo, prepped &
> > tuned by the most experienced experts in this
> > country?
> >
> > Here is your chance to strut your stuff! Just sent
> > my entry into Aircraft Spruce for the SUN 60,
> > which is a production "race". This year awards
> > will go to the top 3 finishers in each class. I
> > guess the spammers must have complained about all
> > the warbirds eating up the trophies so now there
> > are 3 rather than 2 for each class.
> >
> > 3 or more A/C of the same type can have their own
> > class. If not enough Yaks or 'Changs show up I'll
> > just have to dine on Spam again in the 270-400hp
> > Open class :>)
> >
> > Craig Payne
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and Jet, does anyone
have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on the plane, I'm
mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A source for a good screw
assortment would also be appreciated.
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
Ernie,
Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged, although
I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
Cheers,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and Jet, does
anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on the
plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A source
for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Dave,
I'm curious. What did you find wrong with their Phillips head screws? Were
they the stainless steel Truss Head screws?
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
<David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
>
> Ernie,
> Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged, although
> I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and Jet, does
> anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on the
> plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A
source
> for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
Hi Dennis,
Yes, Phillips truss head screws. I found that I could easily mangle the
head despite the use of the proper size Phillips driver.
Cheers,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Dave,
I'm curious. What did you find wrong with their Phillips head screws? Were
they the stainless steel Truss Head screws?
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
<David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
>
> Ernie,
> Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged, although
> I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and Jet, does
> anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on the
> plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A
source
> for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
This message is for Bob Haley:
Bob, looking for a good number for you, we would like to see your AN-2 Biplane
at the head of the line at Red Star II this year, please call or write me when
you get a chance on how we can help,
thanks
Drew
Drew Allen Blahnick
All Red Stars
Office310-372-6328
Cell310-386-9181
www.allredstar.com
"Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
The secret I discovered to not damaging a Phillips head screw is to use a
Phillips head bit from Snap On. The tip of this bit is not as pointed as
most and the blades of the bit are not at as steep an angle. This bit
buries itself into the head because the tip doesn't bottom out.
If I can find a photo of one I'll email it to you.
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
<David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
>
> Hi Dennis,
> Yes, Phillips truss head screws. I found that I could easily mangle the
> head despite the use of the proper size Phillips driver.
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Dave,
> I'm curious. What did you find wrong with their Phillips head screws?
Were
> they the stainless steel Truss Head screws?
> Dennis Savarese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> >
> > Ernie,
> > Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged,
although
> > I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> >
> > I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and Jet,
does
> > anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on the
> > plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A
> source
> > for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
I am looking for an updated email address for Tom Elliott. The last address I
have for him in the YPA database is in Sandy Valley, NV
Thanks,
Mike Filucci
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ernie,
I have the proper Stainless steel Phillips head, low profile screws in both
4 and 5mm
Best,
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and Jet, does
anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on the
plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A source
for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Also, something to consider, what you might "THINK" is a Phillips may in
fact be a Reed and Prince, which looks like a Phillips, is sold at your
local hardware, but is not a Phillips. It has a slightly different angle on
the head, preventing it from properly seating in the Phillips screw head.
Bits are cheap, make sure they are Phillips and if they are not Snap on's
replace them frequently.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> The secret I discovered to not damaging a Phillips head screw is to use a
> Phillips head bit from Snap On. The tip of this bit is not as pointed as
> most and the blades of the bit are not at as steep an angle. This bit
> buries itself into the head because the tip doesn't bottom out.
> If I can find a photo of one I'll email it to you.
> Dennis Savarese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> >
> > Hi Dennis,
> > Yes, Phillips truss head screws. I found that I could easily mangle the
> > head despite the use of the proper size Phillips driver.
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > Dave,
> > I'm curious. What did you find wrong with their Phillips head screws?
> Were
> > they the stainless steel Truss Head screws?
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> > <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> > >
> > > Ernie,
> > > Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged,
> although
> > > I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> > >
> > > I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and Jet,
> does
> > > anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on the
> > > plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A
> > source
> > > for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Ernie
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> The secret I discovered to not damaging a Phillips head screw is to use a
> Phillips head bit from Snap On. The tip of this bit is not as pointed as
> most
I find that just grinding the tip of a phillips head screwdriver does almost the
same thing.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I was just out in the hangar measuring my different screws, my calipers are
in inches so I have to do a little conversion, I also need screws for my
Jet, especially one really odd ball sized one. I plan on using slotted
screws since that is what the previous owner had already started to do.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Also, something to consider, what you might "THINK" is a Phillips may in
> fact be a Reed and Prince, which looks like a Phillips, is sold at your
> local hardware, but is not a Phillips. It has a slightly different angle
on
> the head, preventing it from properly seating in the Phillips screw head.
> Bits are cheap, make sure they are Phillips and if they are not Snap on's
> replace them frequently.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > The secret I discovered to not damaging a Phillips head screw is to use
a
> > Phillips head bit from Snap On. The tip of this bit is not as pointed
as
> > most and the blades of the bit are not at as steep an angle. This bit
> > buries itself into the head because the tip doesn't bottom out.
> > If I can find a photo of one I'll email it to you.
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> > <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> > >
> > > Hi Dennis,
> > > Yes, Phillips truss head screws. I found that I could easily mangle
the
> > > head despite the use of the proper size Phillips driver.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > I'm curious. What did you find wrong with their Phillips head screws?
> > Were
> > > they the stainless steel Truss Head screws?
> > > Dennis Savarese
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> > > <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> > > >
> > > > Ernie,
> > > > Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged,
> > although
> > > > I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
> > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and
Jet,
> > does
> > > > anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on
the
> > > > plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A
> > > source
> > > > for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Ernie
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Your right Brian. It would probably would.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> > The secret I discovered to not damaging a Phillips head screw is to use
a
> > Phillips head bit from Snap On. The tip of this bit is not as pointed
as
> > most
>
> I find that just grinding the tip of a phillips head screwdriver does
almost the
> same thing.
>
> --
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
> brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Ok heres one for you really resouceful fellows. On my Jet I have these large
straps which cover the wing attach points and are held in place by a large
number of screws. These are countersunk flathead slotted screws M6 x 16mm
with a head diameter of 17mm. Can anyone tell me where I can get these??
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I was just out in the hangar measuring my different screws, my calipers
are
> in inches so I have to do a little conversion, I also need screws for my
> Jet, especially one really odd ball sized one. I plan on using slotted
> screws since that is what the previous owner had already started to do.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> > Also, something to consider, what you might "THINK" is a Phillips may in
> > fact be a Reed and Prince, which looks like a Phillips, is sold at your
> > local hardware, but is not a Phillips. It has a slightly different
angle
> on
> > the head, preventing it from properly seating in the Phillips screw
head.
> > Bits are cheap, make sure they are Phillips and if they are not Snap
on's
> > replace them frequently.
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> > >
> > > The secret I discovered to not damaging a Phillips head screw is to
use
> a
> > > Phillips head bit from Snap On. The tip of this bit is not as pointed
> as
> > > most and the blades of the bit are not at as steep an angle. This bit
> > > buries itself into the head because the tip doesn't bottom out.
> > > If I can find a photo of one I'll email it to you.
> > > Dennis Savarese
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> > > <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dennis,
> > > > Yes, Phillips truss head screws. I found that I could easily mangle
> the
> > > > head despite the use of the proper size Phillips driver.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
> > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<adsavar@gte.net>
> > > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > > I'm curious. What did you find wrong with their Phillips head
screws?
> > > Were
> > > > they the stainless steel Truss Head screws?
> > > > Dennis Savarese
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> > > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> > > > <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> > > > >
> > > > > Ernie,
> > > > > Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged,
> > > although
> > > > > I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
> > > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie"
<ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and
> Jet,
> > > does
> > > > > anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on
> the
> > > > > plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws.
A
> > > > source
> > > > > for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ernie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Ernie,
What is the angle on the countersink? 120 or 100 degrees? The secret
here is to correctly ID the part. "DIN" standard parts catalogs are
widely available but we are talking metric aerospace hardware. There is
some cross-over.
BTW, you don't really want slotted head screws...at least you won't
after the first time your flat tip screw driver tip goes scratching
across your $18K paint job.
Craig Payne
>
> Ok heres one for you really resouceful fellows. On my Jet I have these large
> straps which cover the wing attach points and are held in place by a large
> number of screws. These are countersunk flathead slotted screws M6 x 16mm
> with a head diameter of 17mm. Can anyone tell me where I can get these??
>
> Ernie
======================================================================
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I have no idea on the degrees, or how to find out, kinda small to put a
protractor on.
I know what you're saying about scratching across the paint, but if your
plane looked like mine you wouldnt worry about it. Mine looks like a proper
warbird, not all prissed up like some beauty queen :)
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
>
> Ernie,
>
> What is the angle on the countersink? 120 or 100 degrees? The secret
> here is to correctly ID the part. "DIN" standard parts catalogs are
> widely available but we are talking metric aerospace hardware. There is
> some cross-over.
>
> BTW, you don't really want slotted head screws...at least you won't
> after the first time your flat tip screw driver tip goes scratching
> across your $18K paint job.
>
> Craig Payne
> >
> > Ok heres one for you really resouceful fellows. On my Jet I have these
large
> > straps which cover the wing attach points and are held in place by a
large
> > number of screws. These are countersunk flathead slotted screws M6 x
16mm
> > with a head diameter of 17mm. Can anyone tell me where I can get these??
> >
> > Ernie
> ======================================================================
>
>
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SUBJECT_IS_LIST,USER_AGENT_OE,USER_IN_WHITELIST
version=2.43
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
Hi Doug;
Are Reed & Prince drivers still available? I have some AN structural screws
with R & P heads but the only R&P screwdriver I ever had was worn out and
thrown away 30 years ago. I thought these screws were an aberation from the
distant past. Surprised to hear they are still available.
Walt
--- Original Message -----
From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Also, something to consider, what you might "THINK" is a Phillips may in
> fact be a Reed and Prince, which looks like a Phillips, is sold at your
> local hardware, but is not a Phillips. It has a slightly different angle
on
> the head, preventing it from properly seating in the Phillips screw head.
> Bits are cheap, make sure they are Phillips and if they are not Snap on's
> replace them frequently.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > The secret I discovered to not damaging a Phillips head screw is to use
a
> > Phillips head bit from Snap On. The tip of this bit is not as pointed
as
> > most and the blades of the bit are not at as steep an angle. This bit
> > buries itself into the head because the tip doesn't bottom out.
> > If I can find a photo of one I'll email it to you.
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> > <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> > >
> > > Hi Dennis,
> > > Yes, Phillips truss head screws. I found that I could easily mangle
the
> > > head despite the use of the proper size Phillips driver.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > I'm curious. What did you find wrong with their Phillips head screws?
> > Were
> > > they the stainless steel Truss Head screws?
> > > Dennis Savarese
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@arspace.army.mil>
> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC"
> > > <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
> > > >
> > > > Ernie,
> > > > Yak Metric http://www.yakmetric.com/ has assortments prepackaged,
> > although
> > > > I'm not overly enthused with their phillips head screws.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com]
> > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Yak-List: Screw Sizes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to buy a stainless steel screw assortment for my CJ and
Jet,
> > does
> > > > anyone have the screw sizes for the majority of the screws used on
the
> > > > plane, I'm mostly interested in replacing all the airframe screws. A
> > > source
> > > > for a good screw assortment would also be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Ernie
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
I got about $100 into my paint job and it looks it. Scratch and slop.
Looked OK the first 2-3 years.
Craig Payne
Ernie wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I have no idea on the degrees, or how to find out, kinda small to put a
> protractor on.
>
> I know what you're saying about scratching across the paint, but if your
> plane looked like mine you wouldnt worry about it. Mine looks like a proper
> warbird, not all prissed up like some beauty queen :)
>
> Ernie
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