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Sun 03/09/03


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 05:24 AM - Sun N Fun Sked (MFilucci@aol.com)
     2. 07:12 AM - Re: Chinese Military Stuff (Andrew Zheng \(China\))
     3. 07:46 AM - Fw: Chinese Military Stuff (Andrew Zheng \(China\))
     4. 02:37 PM - Dead Tach (Gus Fraser)
     5. 03:02 PM - Re: Dead Tach (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     6. 03:22 PM - Re: Dead Tach (Brian Lloyd)
     7. 04:43 PM - Re: Dead Tach (Walt Lannon)
     8. 05:35 PM - Fleet FOD week (Tom Johnson)
     9. 05:46 PM - Re: Dead Tach (Gus Fraser)
    10. 06:36 PM - Re: Dead Tach  (D Zeman)
    11. 06:40 PM - Re: Dead Tach (Gus Fraser)
    12. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: Dead Tach (Gus Fraser)
    13. 07:15 PM - External power adapter (Jim Shanks)
    14. 07:30 PM - Fire Bottles (Craig Payne)
    15. 08:37 PM - Re: Dead Tach (A. Dennis Savarese)
    16. 08:39 PM - Re: Fleet FOD week (A. Dennis Savarese)
    17. 09:45 PM - Re: External power adapter (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    18. 11:17 PM - Culp Special picked by TOP European acrobatic mount (Over a Pitts (Mark Schrick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:24:35 AM PST US
    From: MFilucci@aol.com
    Subject: Sun N Fun Sked
    --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com In a message dated 3/7/03 10:55:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, jogggles@yahoo.com writes: > Might there be a proposed daily schedule for this event for folks like me > who would want to attend but are unable to for the full seven days? That > way, perhaps we can schedule to attend the days most relevent to our flying > goals? Thanks. > We are running our clinic/fly-in this year concurrently with the Sun-N-Fun fly-in so that we are better able to participate in the S&F warbird activities. There are two parallel events taking place: first, we are conducting FAST training starting with the FAST ground school on the morning of April 2nd. Second, we are practicing for and then flying mass formations and fly-bys at Lakeland (LAL) during the warbirds portion of the airshow. The FAST ground/flight training will take place at Bartow (BOW) and continue on a daily basis whenever there is not a conflict with our airshow commitment. The Sun-N-Fun schedule can be found at the following website: http://www.sun-n-fun.org That is about the best I can give you as far as a schedule--it is obviously somewhat of a fluid situation and subject to revision as events unfold. Here is the S&F schedule that Jim Goolsby posted last week to give you somewhat of an idea of what may be happen. Regards, Mike Filucci


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    Time: 07:12:02 AM PST US
    From: "Andrew Zheng \(China\)" <cjcyak@163bj.com>
    Subject: Re: Chinese Military Stuff
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrew Zheng \(China\)" <cjcyak@163bj.com> SSBjYW4gZ2V0IHNvbWUgQ2hpbmVzZSBtaWxpdGFyeSBzdHVmZiBhbmQgcG9zdGVkIG9uIHd3dy5t YXRyb25pY3MuY29tL3Bob3Rvc2hhcmUuIEkgdGhpbmsgc29tZSBvZiB1cyBtYXkgYmUgaW50ZXJl c3RpbmcgaW4gdGhvc2UsIHlvdSBjYW4gb2ZmIHRoZSBsaW5lIGNvbnRhY3QgdG8gbWUuIEkgd2ls bCBnZXQgcHJpY2UgZm9yIHlvdS4NCkFuZHJldyBaaGVuZyBmcm9tIENoaW5hDQo


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    Time: 07:46:57 AM PST US
    From: "Andrew Zheng \(China\)" <cjcyak@163bj.com>
    Subject: Fw: Chinese Military Stuff
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrew Zheng \(China\)" <cjcyak@163bj.com> I can get some Chinese military stuff and posted on www.matronics.com/photoshare. I think some of us may be interesting in those, you can off the line contact to me. I will get price for you. Andrew Zheng from China


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    Time: 02:37:50 PM PST US
    From: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Dead Tach
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> My tach stopped working today. It stopped front and rear at the same time. Just prior to failing it began to pulse from the correct setting down. Then it died completely. I suspect that I have a loose wire. What happens when the Tach sender unit fails. I would imagine that it would either work or not if that happened. think that the sender unit is behind the cylinders on the port side next to the air distributor. I had a quick look and noticed that the leads were loose (not cable tied into place. Does anyone have experience of this ? Gus


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    Time: 03:02:52 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Dead Tach
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 3/9/2003 5:38:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, fraseg@comcast.net writes: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> > > My tach stopped working today. It stopped front and rear at the same time. > Just prior to failing it began to pulse from the correct setting down. Then > it died completely. I suspect that I have a loose wire. What happens when > the Tach sender unit fails. I would imagine that it would either work or > not > if that happened. think that the sender unit is behind the cylinders on > the > port side next to the air distributor. I had a quick look and noticed that > the leads were loose (not cable tied into place. Does anyone have > experience > of this ? > Which engine are we talking about? Jim "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC


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    Time: 03:22:02 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Dead Tach
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Gus Fraser wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> > > My tach stopped working today. It stopped front and rear at the same time. > Just prior to failing it began to pulse from the correct setting down. Then > it died completely. I suspect that I have a loose wire. What happens when > the Tach sender unit fails. I would imagine that it would either work or not > if that happened. think that the sender unit is behind the cylinders on the > port side next to the air distributor. I had a quick look and noticed that > the leads were loose (not cable tied into place. Does anyone have experience > of this ? The tach generator is a three-phase device. It rarely fails entirely all-at-once electrically. You can lose a phase (one wire) and it will still work. I had a problem with mine which turned out to be engine oil on the contacts (evidently the oil did a good job of preventing metal-to-metal contact). I washed the connector in "blue wing solvent" (avgas) and everything was fine again. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax


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    Time: 04:43:05 PM PST US
    From: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
    Subject: Re: Dead Tach
    tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJECT_IS_LIST,USER_AGENT_OE,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.43 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca> Gus; If your installation has a flex drive to the tach generator check the drive shaft for failure. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> Subject: Yak-List: Dead Tach > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> > > My tach stopped working today. It stopped front and rear at the same time. > Just prior to failing it began to pulse from the correct setting down. Then > it died completely. I suspect that I have a loose wire. What happens when > the Tach sender unit fails. I would imagine that it would either work or not > if that happened. think that the sender unit is behind the cylinders on the > port side next to the air distributor. I had a quick look and noticed that > the leads were loose (not cable tied into place. Does anyone have experience > of this ? > > Gus > >


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    Time: 05:35:24 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
    Subject: Fleet FOD week
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> I put my Yak in the hangar today and opened all the inspection panels and floorboards. I used a magnet and then a vacuum cleaner to "De-FOD" my Yak 52. In addition to some oily grime I found the following: One pen One pebble One velcro strap - one inch wide, one inch diameter One dead pop rivet Some general little "crap" (dust, dirt etc) A screw Another velcro strap - one inch wide, one inch diameter One loose wire bundle beneath cockpit two (the old ADF antenna bundle?) Totally unsecured and flopping about like . .. (Adjacent to the flight control tube and gear actuater). One loose wire bundle in the hell-hole. (more decommisioned ADF limbs I think). Took me about two hours. From the insurance side: There have been a number of questions lately about FOD contamination of the flight controls. Our airplanes are susceptible to FOD-Fouling of the controls. I certainly don't want to die in an airplane because of a two dollar wrench. Other warbirds like the T6 have a larger cockpit which keeps the control tube up high, but out flight control tube resides near the bottom of the fuselage and is at danger from FOD. If you get a spare few hours, just go through your aircraft and do a FOD clean verification. I'd like to see the whole FLEET of Nanchang / Yaks get a good FOD check. Fly Safe, Tom Johnson Cannon Aviation Insurance Yak 52, N524TJ


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    Time: 05:46:23 PM PST US
    From: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Dead Tach
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> It's an M14 ask 52, sorry about that -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Dead Tach --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 3/9/2003 5:38:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, fraseg@comcast.net writes: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> > > My tach stopped working today. It stopped front and rear at the same time. > Just prior to failing it began to pulse from the correct setting down. Then > it died completely. I suspect that I have a loose wire. What happens when > the Tach sender unit fails. I would imagine that it would either work or > not > if that happened. think that the sender unit is behind the cylinders on > the > port side next to the air distributor. I had a quick look and noticed that > the leads were loose (not cable tied into place. Does anyone have > experience > of this ? > Which engine are we talking about? Jim "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC


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    Time: 06:36:42 PM PST US
    From: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Dead Tach
    --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com> Gus, Most likely a wire has come loose (vibration, etc) in the tach sending unit below the left mag; I had the same thing happen. Start by taking the cannon plug apart. A quick solder and reassembly. Best of luck, D. Zeman http://taxes.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 06:40:49 PM PST US
    From: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Dead Tach
    tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJECT_IS_LIST,USER_AGENT_OE,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.43 --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> Walt, It is an electric signal transfer. I am going to pull the unit tomorrow evening and clean it. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Lannon Subject: Re: Yak-List: Dead Tach tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJECT_IS_LIST,USER_AGENT_OE,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.43 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca> Gus; If your installation has a flex drive to the tach generator check the drive shaft for failure. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> Subject: Yak-List: Dead Tach > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> > > My tach stopped working today. It stopped front and rear at the same time. > Just prior to failing it began to pulse from the correct setting down. Then > it died completely. I suspect that I have a loose wire. What happens when > the Tach sender unit fails. I would imagine that it would either work or not > if that happened. think that the sender unit is behind the cylinders on the > port side next to the air distributor. I had a quick look and noticed that > the leads were loose (not cable tied into place. Does anyone have experience > of this ? > > Gus > >


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    Time: 06:43:59 PM PST US
    From: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Dead Tach
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> I think you are right. I did give it a quick inspection and, as I said, the wire securing clip does not grab the wires. Is the sending unit a 210 V as synco ? or does it just produce a pulse per rev ? I will post to the group with my findings. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of D Zeman Subject: Yak-List: Re: Dead Tach --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com> Gus, Most likely a wire has come loose (vibration, etc) in the tach sending unit below the left mag; I had the same thing happen. Start by taking the cannon plug apart. A quick solder and reassembly. Best of luck, D. Zeman http://taxes.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 07:15:08 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Shanks" <shankeroid@attbi.com>
    Subject: External power adapter
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shanks" <shankeroid@attbi.com> Hi Yakheads, I'm a new guy that just bought into a 4-way partnership on a '67 CJ-6 based out of Roanoke, Texas. Heckuva airplane, flies a lot like the T-34 from my Navy days, but sure is different in every other way. I'm getting lots smarter thanks to this forum. First of many questions: Does there exist an adapter to mate the electrical power receptacle on the CJ with a standard power cord on the typical external power carts found at most FBO's? If so, what is the step-by-step procedure for hooking up external power to run the electrics? I am mainly concerned with powering the aux air compressor on the ground in the event of low or no air. Thanks and looking forward to chattin with you all. Jim Shanks shankeroid@attbi.com


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    Time: 07:30:01 PM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
    Subject: Fire Bottles
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net> For those with portable Halon fire bottles located in the cockpit, (CJ & Yak), where do you mount it? Craig Payne


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    Time: 08:37:14 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Dead Tach
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Could be either the tach generator itself or possibly a loose connection to the unit. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> Subject: Yak-List: Dead Tach > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> > > My tach stopped working today. It stopped front and rear at the same time. > Just prior to failing it began to pulse from the correct setting down. Then > it died completely. I suspect that I have a loose wire. What happens when > the Tach sender unit fails. I would imagine that it would either work or not > if that happened. think that the sender unit is behind the cylinders on the > port side next to the air distributor. I had a quick look and noticed that > the leads were loose (not cable tied into place. Does anyone have experience > of this ? > > Gus > >


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    Time: 08:39:08 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Fleet FOD week
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Excellent suggestion Tom. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Subject: Yak-List: Fleet FOD week > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > I put my Yak in the hangar today and opened all the inspection panels and floorboards. > I used a magnet and then a vacuum cleaner to "De-FOD" my Yak 52. > > In addition to some oily grime I found the following: > One pen > One pebble > One velcro strap - one inch wide, one inch diameter > One dead pop rivet > Some general little "crap" (dust, dirt etc) > A screw > Another velcro strap - one inch wide, one inch diameter > One loose wire bundle beneath cockpit two (the old ADF antenna bundle?) Totally unsecured and flopping about like . .. (Adjacent to the flight control tube and gear actuater). > One loose wire bundle in the hell-hole. (more decommisioned ADF limbs I think). > > Took me about two hours. > > From the insurance side: There have been a number of questions lately about FOD contamination of the flight controls. Our airplanes are susceptible to FOD-Fouling of the controls. I certainly don't want to die in an airplane because of a two dollar wrench. > > Other warbirds like the T6 have a larger cockpit which keeps the control tube up high, but out flight control tube resides near the bottom of the fuselage and is at danger from FOD. > > If you get a spare few hours, just go through your aircraft and do a FOD clean verification. > I'd like to see the whole FLEET of Nanchang / Yaks get a good FOD check. > > Fly Safe, > Tom Johnson > Cannon Aviation Insurance > Yak 52, N524TJ > >


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    Time: 09:45:30 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: External power adapter
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 3/9/2003 10:15:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, shankeroid@attbi.com writes: > > Hi Yakheads, > I'm a new guy that just bought into a 4-way partnership on a '67 CJ-6 > based out of Roanoke, Texas. Heckuva airplane, flies a lot like the T-34 > from my Navy days, but sure is different in every other way. I'm getting > lots smarter thanks to this forum. > First of many questions: Does there exist an adapter to mate the > electrical power receptacle on the CJ with a standard power cord on the > typical external power carts found at most FBO's? If so, what is the > step-by-step procedure for hooking up external power to run the electrics? > I am mainly concerned with powering the aux air compressor on the ground in > the event of low or no air. > Thanks and looking forward to chattin with you all. > > Jim Shanks > shankeroid@attbi.com > Jim, There are a number of ways to modify you external power. One or two folks here on the list sell the external plug. You take it and modify it so that you may plug in a US plug to it. I sure there are other suggestions out there. I take it that you have an electric compressor installed in the plane? What type and what voltage does it run off? Jim "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC


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    Time: 11:17:44 PM PST US
    From: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: Culp Special picked by TOP European acrobatic mount (Over a
    Pitts Model 12 ???) --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net> European Champ Buys American While Wall Street frets about the Europeans taking the lead in some aerospace ventures, there's proof positive that some Europeans still respect Yankee know-how. One of Europe's best aerobatic pilots, 2001 European champion Zoltan Veres, of Hungary, will use a custom-built round-engined Culp's Special biplane for the 2003 competition and air show schedule. "It's definitely a crowd pleaser," said Steve Culp, the plane's designer. "There's kind of a nostalgia about it. A lot of people would like to see the older, more graceful aerobatics." Culp said Veres's Special will be no slouch in the air since it will sport a 400-horsepower M-14P radial spinning a three-bladed prop. Besides competitions and shows, Veres will use the Special for a 70th anniversary commemoration of a biplane flight by two Hungarian pilots, who circumvented the Mediterranean in a bid to boost aviation in their country. Veres is helping Culp and a team of technicians build the airplane at Gesoco Industries in Swanton, Vt. The seven-week construction process will be finished in a couple of weeks and test flights will begin immediately afterward. Then, the plane will be disassembled and shipped to Hungary for final painting and the start of the season. Mark Schrick Yak 52 owner but looking for a Yak 50 !!!!!! Help me find one......




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