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1. 03:49 AM - Re: special young eagle flights. (Ernie)
2. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: External power adapter (cpayne@mc.net)
3. 05:34 AM - Re: Questions (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 05:36 AM - Re: Questions (cpayne@mc.net)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: special young eagle flights. (Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC)
6. 08:41 AM - Who is next? (Bob Fitzpatrick)
7. 09:15 AM - Re: Who is next? (Brian Lloyd)
8. 10:05 AM - Re: Who is next? (Ernie)
9. 10:52 AM - Re: Who is next? (Brian Lloyd)
10. 10:52 AM - Re: Who is next? (Roy O. Wright)
11. 12:40 PM - Fw: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request (cjpilot710@aol.com)
12. 01:12 PM - Re: Fw: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request (Ernie)
13. 03:17 PM - Re: Fw: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request (A. Dennis Savarese)
14. 05:05 PM - FW: Children of military personnel (Gus Fraser)
15. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: External power adapter (Jim Griffin)
16. 07:24 PM - Re: External power adapter (Craig Payne)
17. 07:51 PM - Re: External power adapter (Jim Griffin)
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| Subject: | Re: special young eagle flights. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I wish, but I only have a 29 :)
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: special young eagle flights.
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Thanks Jim,
> How about a special YPA prize at Osh for the YPA member who flies the most
> :)
> Maybe an old eagle flight in your L39 Erinie :)
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> cjpilot710@aol.com
> To: warbirds@eaa.org
> Subject: Yak-List: special young eagle flights.
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> EAAWB
>
> We have been hearing news reports of late, that school children of service
> personal, have been mocked by their "educators" and other children. This
> being some absurd attempt at antiwar sentiment.
>
> A number of our members have suggested that EAAWB sponsor some type of
> action
> to give special recognition and appreciation to the children of service
> personal. It was recommended that special Young Eagle flights be offered
to
> the different military service dependent programs.
>
> Would that be possible?
>
>
> Jim Goosby
>
> Jim Goolsby, YPA Board Member
>
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: External power adapter |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
Jim,
Is this the CJ last owned by Sal Salibi?
Craig Payne
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
There is a custom fitted backing plate attached to the crank about 6 inches
behind the blades. There is only about 3 inches clearance between the
spinner base and the cowling.
Jim Griffin
CJ6-A
273SC
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From: <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: External power adapter
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 3/13/2003 12:01:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
general@generalequip.com writes:
> I am in the final stages of completing a CJ restoration and have the
> following questions:
>
> 1) Does anyone know of a propeller shop that will balance the standard two
> blade prop? The shop in the Minneapolis/St Paul area is not showing any
> real interest in balancing it because of the experimental/exhibition
> nature.
Mid Florida Service, in Orlando, Fl. had no qualms about overhauling mine.
They can't certify it, but they can overhaul it. Their number is
407-8/94-2412.
> 2) This might seam really trivial but...the threaded shank of forks which
> connect the trim tab horn to the push rod only have 1/4 inch of thread
> contact with the female threads of the pushrod. We have everything rigged
> as per all the written documentation we can obtain. I really don't remember
> how it looked when it was dismantled for recovering. Is this threaded
> length in contact normal? The basic rule I learned many years ago was that
> maximum thread strength occurred with 3 full threads in contact. Which is
> about the width of a corresponding nut.
>
> 3) I have seen a few CJs with a screen in the oil cooler inlet. I have an
> early model. Was this something added later or just an individual decision
> to help minimize damage from birds that can't get out of the way?
A number of us have put that 1/2" cage wire in the cooler inlet. It does
keep out errant birds but also keeps cups and other assorted trash out during
airshows.
>
> 4) Does anyone produce a readily available foam cushion set to fit into the
> standard seat pan? I'm aware of the various foam materials which are
> available but wonder if there is a source that has a cushion set already
> preshaped to fit the pan. If not, I can cut and shape the foam.
I took my seat pans to a local auto interior shop. They redid the back rests
and made seats, that were top notch and they can do any design you want.
>
> 5) Any tricks, shortcuts, things you'd do differently or other words of
> wisdom about installing a JPI EDM-700-9 engine analyzer?
Give Sam Sax a call (305-385-1549). He put that system on his M-14p. Also
Bill Blackwell at 623-703-1001 may help you.
>
> Thanks
>
Jim
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
1) Aircraft Propeller service out out Palwaukee near ORD painted and balanced my
Chinese prop. No problem, they said it
hung from their fixture OK. Besides, "Experimental" lets them off the hook for
AD compliance, etc.
2) check the "witness" holes on the fitting, there should be thread there.
3) I used a stiff screen over my oil inlet cooler, dog fence I think, keeps the
cups and cans out of the oil cooler at airshows.
Just last summer I had to holler at some 300 lb beast with his bare pot belly hanging
out to get the hell off my CJ with
his kid; they were walking on the wing, and it wasn't even an airshow, hust a WB
squadron picnic that attracted some
bozos passing by.
4) My seat cushions were made up in Tijuana by one of the car upholstry shops.
Long ways from St. Paul but ANY local
shop should be able to make one to fit your seat.
Craig Payne
Subject: Yak-List: Questions
--> Yak-List message posted by: "General Equipment Company" <general@generalequip.com>
I am in the final stages of completing a CJ restoration and have the following
questions:
1) Does anyone know of a propeller shop that will balance the standard two blade
prop? The shop in the Minneapolis/St Paul area is not showing any real interest
in balancing it because of the experimental/exhibition nature.
2) This might seam really trivial but...the threaded shank of forks which connect
the trim tab horn to the push rod only have 1/4 inch of thread contact with
the female threads of the pushrod. We have everything rigged as per all the written
documentation we can obtain. I really don't remember how it looked when
it was dismantled for recovering. Is this threaded length in contact normal?
The basic rule I learned many years ago was that maximum thread strength occurred
with 3 full threads in contact. Which is about the width of a corresponding
nut.
3) I have seen a few CJs with a screen in the oil cooler inlet. I have an early
model. Was this something added later or just an individual decision to help
minimize damage from birds that can't get out of the way?
4) Does anyone produce a readily available foam cushion set to fit into the standard
seat pan? I'm aware of the various foam materials which are available but
wonder if there is a source that has a cushion set already preshaped to fit
the pan. If not, I can cut and shape the foam.
5) Any tricks, shortcuts, things you'd do differently or other words of wisdom
about installing a JPI EDM-700-9 engine analyzer?
Thanks
Dennis Von Ruden
general@generalequip.com
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| Subject: | special young eagle flights. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Petri, David S. CDR NNSOC" <David.Petri@ARSPACE.ARMY.MIL>
Jim,
I've been working with my local chapter to accomplish the same thing. In
our discussions we came up with one problem. Making it known that we were
conducting a Young Eagles Rally for dependents of deployed military would
possibly draw the anti-war crowd out to the field. We could only envision a
group of hostile adults screaming at the kids that their mom or dad were
murderers. Lovely. That would make for a fun rally... The possibility of
a terrorist attack with a concentrated group of military kids was brought
up, but I think that is a low risk.
Our answer was to conduct the rally at one of the three local military
airfields. Access is restricted to those with govt decals and ID cards,
which would keep the evildoers, both terrorists and Americans, well away.
Additionally, your odds of having Young Eagles show up that actually have
deployed parents is much higher, so we avoid embarrassing questions and just
take them all. We are currently working with the various organizations to
figure out civil aircraft access to the field or the restricted ramp area.
Hopefully, we can stage out of the local Army base as most of our locals
deployed are from there.
At any rate, I feel the event is well worth the effort and just wanted to
pass along our progress and some of things we are thinking about.
Cheers,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com [mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com]
Subject: Yak-List: special young eagle flights.
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
EAAWB
We have been hearing news reports of late, that school children of service
personal, have been mocked by their "educators" and other children. This
being some absurd attempt at antiwar sentiment.
A number of our members have suggested that EAAWB sponsor some type of
action
to give special recognition and appreciation to the children of service
personal. It was recommended that special Young Eagle flights be offered to
the different military service dependent programs.
Would that be possible?
Jim Goosby
Jim Goolsby, YPA Board Member
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Fitzpatrick" <rmfitz@direcway.com>
The following was lifted from Propwash, The story is sad but the timing brought
back fond memories. It was 10 yrs ago this week that the blizzard of '93 hit
the East coast. I had business in DC so my wife and I flew our Piper into College
Park the night before the storm. ATC was helpful threading us around the Capital
and Baltimore with the controller giving the friendly advice to "better
get that plane tied down before the storm hits". No matter how often you've been
to Washington there is no view to compare with the sight through the windshield
of your own plane, relatively low and slow. Having flown into Washington
National once in a friend's Cessna (and vowing never to go back) I really appreciated
this airport. I have had lunch at home in Illinois, taken off from our
backyard strip, landed at CGS, walked to the metro, popped up downtown DC and
been in my hotel that afternoon without ever being in a car, cab, or bus. What
a testament to the efficiency and convenience of GA. Maybe it was too good
to last. bob
It's over. College Park Airport, the World's oldest airport in continuous
operation, is on its deathbed, moribund, fighting for its very existence. At
the same moment, our federal Protectors of Freedom are working feverishly to
yank-out the few life-support tubes that remain. Should the feds get their
way, College Park Airport will be history in the truest sense of the word.
After 93 years of operation, our federal government has decided that this
bucolic little general aviation facility must be slowly choked out of
existence and sacrificed on the holy alter of National Security. The
year-old temporary flight restrictions imposed upon College Park
Airport(CGS), Hyde Field (W32) and Potomac Airfield (VKX) have now been
arbitrarily extended for another two years. That action may very well
destroy three previously vibrant general aviation airports, no doubt to the
subtle satisfaction of our federal architects of security. The airports'
assassinations will not be quick and humane, but slow and drawn-out,
Inquisition-style. Not wanting any bureaucratic blood on their hands in the
event of negative press, the feds are now free to shrug their collective
shoulders and claim "lack of market response" as the "real" culprit leading
up to the government's Final Solution for these airports. The fact that
federal zealotry resulted in the seizure of 99+% of their customer-base
won't even qualify as a footnote in any future administrative autopsies.
What a shame.
It didn't have to happen.
Make no mistake; the effective closure of these airports was NOT a result of
terrorism. Rather, their operational demise came at the hands of a federal
government mindset largely devoid of commonly accepted standards of
analysis, principles of risk management or any pretense at objective
deliberation. While "knee-jerk" is a common and over-used lexicon in today's
vocabulary, knee-jerk is the best description when reviewing our
government's performance and unspoken agenda. Don't think so?.... Picture
Osama, addressing his henchmen and working them into a lather.."OK, guys,
here's the deal - We hijack these big, fuel-laden commercial airliners and
crash'em into some New York skyscrapers. The infidels in charge will
immediately shut-down the three little airports around Washington.... Talk
about bringing Western civilization to its knees!....." (i.e.: knee-jerk).
Bin Laden's Bad Guys must be rolling around on the cave floor, clutching
their sides in hysterical laughter.
History shows that airliners, trucks, cars, and speedboats are the
terrorist's weapons-of-choice. History also shows that small general
aviation aircraft are Uncle Sam's victims-of-choice. While it's an
incredible stretch to try and connect the dots, grounding the notorious
Piper Cub and its kindred ilk seems to make perfect sense to those deep
within the bowels of government who believe that protecting our freedoms
must be prefaced by first taking our freedoms away. Unfortunately, the
federales also believe these issues can be resolved at the same level of
awareness that created the problems in the first place.
The result?
It's too late for facts, analysis and reason. No time or need for aviation
expertise or input. Rabbit hunting with an elephant gun always gets the job
done. Reasonable discourse and consideration of citizen freedoms? Sorry,
those issues are just acceptable collateral damage as our government
struggles to protect our way of life.
What a shame.
It didn't have to happen.
Way back in 1928, Justice Louis Brandeis warned, "The greatest dangers to
liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but
without understanding."
You were a smart man, Louie.
How did you ever know that, 75 years later, they would create a
Transportation Security Administration? How could you have realized that
general aviation security would one day be implemented and foisted upon us
by career security-troids, many unable to distinguish the difference between
a propeller and a hubcap, not to mention any real familiarity with the
industry? Yep, you were a smart man. Sure wish you were still among us to
help throttle this New Order juggernaut and demand some regulatory
approaches different from Slash-n-Burn and Scorched-Earch.
To those who took up our cause, and the cause of general aviation freedom
all over, I extend the grateful appreciation of the aviation community
inside the Washington TFR. To those who may have felt it was not their
battle, let College Park Airport be your canary in the mineshaft. This
little airport's demise should indicate to you that bureaucratic toxins are
in the air, and they'll eventually get to you too if you don't take action.
One of the specific charges against King George in our Declaration of
Independence states: "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent
hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their
substance."
Yep, that's it in a nutshell. College Park Airport has been swarmed,
harassed and its substance eaten out.
What a shame.
It didn't have to happen.
Lee Schiek, Airport Manager
College Park Airport (CGS)
"...Since 1909..."
FMI: www.aajp.com/maryland/airports/college.htm,
www.avialantic.com/collpark.html, www.tsa.gov
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Bob Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Having flown into Washington National once in a friend's Cessna (and vowing
> never to go back) I really appreciated this airport.
I loved National! I used to work down in Petersburg VA and go visit my
girlfriend in DC on the weekends. National was just too convenient. It is also
the only place I have had ATC say to me, "Comanche 6448P, you are overtaking the
757 on the approach ahead. Please reduce speed to 130 kts for spacing." (This
after them asking us to keep our speed up.)
As for the rest of your posting, right on bro! How many other ways will our
well-meaning government do us ill?
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Someone should send this prose to our elected officials. Maybe we can all
send a copy to our respective state reps.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Fitzpatrick" <rmfitz@direcway.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Who is next?
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Fitzpatrick" <rmfitz@direcway.com>
>
> The following was lifted from Propwash, The story is sad but the timing
brought back fond memories. It was 10 yrs ago this week that the blizzard of
'93 hit the East coast. I had business in DC so my wife and I flew our Piper
into College Park the night before the storm. ATC was helpful threading us
around the Capital and Baltimore with the controller giving the friendly
advice to "better get that plane tied down before the storm hits". No matter
how often you've been to Washington there is no view to compare with the
sight through the windshield of your own plane, relatively low and slow.
Having flown into Washington National once in a friend's Cessna (and vowing
never to go back) I really appreciated this airport. I have had lunch at
home in Illinois, taken off from our backyard strip, landed at CGS, walked
to the metro, popped up downtown DC and been in my hotel that afternoon
without ever being in a car, cab, or bus. What a testament to the efficiency
and convenience of !
> GA. Maybe it was too good to last. bob
>
>
> It's over. College Park Airport, the World's oldest airport in continuous
> operation, is on its deathbed, moribund, fighting for its very existence.
At
> the same moment, our federal Protectors of Freedom are working feverishly
to
> yank-out the few life-support tubes that remain. Should the feds get their
> way, College Park Airport will be history in the truest sense of the word.
>
> After 93 years of operation, our federal government has decided that this
> bucolic little general aviation facility must be slowly choked out of
> existence and sacrificed on the holy alter of National Security. The
> year-old temporary flight restrictions imposed upon College Park
> Airport(CGS), Hyde Field (W32) and Potomac Airfield (VKX) have now been
> arbitrarily extended for another two years. That action may very well
> destroy three previously vibrant general aviation airports, no doubt to
the
> subtle satisfaction of our federal architects of security. The airports'
> assassinations will not be quick and humane, but slow and drawn-out,
> Inquisition-style. Not wanting any bureaucratic blood on their hands in
the
> event of negative press, the feds are now free to shrug their collective
> shoulders and claim "lack of market response" as the "real" culprit
leading
> up to the government's Final Solution for these airports. The fact that
> federal zealotry resulted in the seizure of 99+% of their customer-base
> won't even qualify as a footnote in any future administrative autopsies.
>
> What a shame.
>
> It didn't have to happen.
>
> Make no mistake; the effective closure of these airports was NOT a result
of
> terrorism. Rather, their operational demise came at the hands of a federal
> government mindset largely devoid of commonly accepted standards of
> analysis, principles of risk management or any pretense at objective
> deliberation. While "knee-jerk" is a common and over-used lexicon in
today's
> vocabulary, knee-jerk is the best description when reviewing our
> government's performance and unspoken agenda. Don't think so?.... Picture
> Osama, addressing his henchmen and working them into a lather.."OK, guys,
> here's the deal - We hijack these big, fuel-laden commercial airliners and
> crash'em into some New York skyscrapers. The infidels in charge will
> immediately shut-down the three little airports around Washington.... Talk
> about bringing Western civilization to its knees!....." (i.e.: knee-jerk).
> Bin Laden's Bad Guys must be rolling around on the cave floor, clutching
> their sides in hysterical laughter.
>
> History shows that airliners, trucks, cars, and speedboats are the
> terrorist's weapons-of-choice. History also shows that small general
> aviation aircraft are Uncle Sam's victims-of-choice. While it's an
> incredible stretch to try and connect the dots, grounding the notorious
> Piper Cub and its kindred ilk seems to make perfect sense to those deep
> within the bowels of government who believe that protecting our freedoms
> must be prefaced by first taking our freedoms away. Unfortunately, the
> federales also believe these issues can be resolved at the same level of
> awareness that created the problems in the first place.
>
> The result?
>
> It's too late for facts, analysis and reason. No time or need for aviation
> expertise or input. Rabbit hunting with an elephant gun always gets the
job
> done. Reasonable discourse and consideration of citizen freedoms? Sorry,
> those issues are just acceptable collateral damage as our government
> struggles to protect our way of life.
>
> What a shame.
>
> It didn't have to happen.
>
> Way back in 1928, Justice Louis Brandeis warned, "The greatest dangers to
> liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning
but
> without understanding."
>
> You were a smart man, Louie.
>
> How did you ever know that, 75 years later, they would create a
> Transportation Security Administration? How could you have realized that
> general aviation security would one day be implemented and foisted upon us
> by career security-troids, many unable to distinguish the difference
between
> a propeller and a hubcap, not to mention any real familiarity with the
> industry? Yep, you were a smart man. Sure wish you were still among us to
> help throttle this New Order juggernaut and demand some regulatory
> approaches different from Slash-n-Burn and Scorched-Earch.
>
> To those who took up our cause, and the cause of general aviation freedom
> all over, I extend the grateful appreciation of the aviation community
> inside the Washington TFR. To those who may have felt it was not their
> battle, let College Park Airport be your canary in the mineshaft. This
> little airport's demise should indicate to you that bureaucratic toxins
are
> in the air, and they'll eventually get to you too if you don't take
action.
>
> One of the specific charges against King George in our Declaration of
> Independence states: "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent
> hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their
> substance."
>
> Yep, that's it in a nutshell. College Park Airport has been swarmed,
> harassed and its substance eaten out.
>
> What a shame.
>
> It didn't have to happen.
>
> Lee Schiek, Airport Manager
> College Park Airport (CGS)
> "...Since 1909..."
> FMI: www.aajp.com/maryland/airports/college.htm,
> www.avialantic.com/collpark.html, www.tsa.gov
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ernie wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Someone should send this prose to our elected officials. Maybe we can all
> send a copy to our respective state reps.
It couldn't hurt. And for an extra 100 points work the terms "clueless
lackwits" and "without due process" into your letter. I think I am going to
work on how to be more creative in my letter writing for this one.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
This message from Lee is a few weeks old. There has recently
been an announcement of a reduction in harassment by the TSA.
I'd check with Lee before sending it on, don't want to ruffle
any feathers if things are improving.
BTW, I did forward Lee's message a few weeks ago to my congress
critters and requested their position on the DC3, GA, and the
federal attack on liberty. I'm still waiting for their responses.
Have fun,
Roy
At 01:04 PM 3/13/2003 -0500, Ernie wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
>Someone should send this prose to our elected officials. Maybe we can all
>send a copy to our respective state reps.
>
>Ernie
',,'',,'',,',,'
Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com
Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 3/13/2003 12:25:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, govt@eaa.org
writes:
Hay folks,
Please drop a letter to the FAA Southern Region about this stupid tower.
Make sure you use the public notice number. Its just a short time left.
This tower is just another TV thing and it being as close to OCF Ocala as it
is planned is really dumb. However as stupid as it is (1,554 feet for crying
out laud) the Feds need to know about it. Please help.
Jim Goolsby
>
> > EAA Members in Florida. A group of EAAer's in central Florida are asking
> for help in fighting a proposed 1,554 foot (AGL) radio tower planned to be
> located 9.47 nautical miles northeast of the Ocala - Taylor Airport (OCF).
> >
> > If you are willing to help, please print the below letter as a word
> document and mail it to the FAA Southern Region no later than Saturday,
> March 15, 2003. At the bottom of the letter please sign it and write your
> address on it.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Randy Hansen
> > EAA Government and Industry Relations
> > govt@eaa.org
> >
> > Letter follows
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - -
> >
> >
> >
> > March 14, 2003
> >
> >
> >
> > Ms. Carolyn Blum
> > Administrator, FAA Southern Region
> > P.O. Box 20636
> > Atlanta, GA 30320
> >
> > Dear Administrator Blum:
> >
> > Reference: Comments to Public Notice No. 2002-ASO-4832-OE, ASO-520
> >
> > I object to the proposed construction of the new WOGK radio station
> antenna tower, as described by this FAA Public Notice.
> >
> > The location of the tower places it in one of the most heavily flown VFR
> corridors in the state of Florida. With the Palatka MOA and
> R-2906/2907/2910 on the eastern side and the very active general/corporate
> aviation Ocala-Taylor airport to the west, VFR pilots are forced to fly in
> a very narrow north/south corridor. The western restrictions also include
> the IFR airways (with low MEA> '> s) including, V159. V295, V537, V581 and
> V441, which force VFR pilots to transition through the area at a relatively
> low altitude.
> >
> > The cumulative effect these > "> obstacles> "> to VFR flight create a
> VFR corridor bounded by the Grey Stone Airport (Pvt.) on the west and the
> Palatka MOA on the east. Local pilots estimate over 100 aircraft
> transition through this corridor every day.
> >
> > I realize the proposed tower is being located near an existing 1, 369> '>
> tower under the FAA> '> s > "> antenna farm> "> obstacle reduction
> program. However, this tower is 176> '> taller. That increased height
> makes this tower an extreme hazard to the hundreds of VFR pilots who
> transition through this 4 nm wide corridor on a daily basis.
> >
> > For the safety of general aviation in the central Florida area, I urge
> the FAA to issue a finding of > "> Determination of Hazard to Air
> Navigation> "> for this antenna tower.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > name
> > address
> >
> >
>
Jim
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
Subject: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request
> EAA Members in Florida. A group of EAAer's in central Florida are asking=20for
help in fighting a proposed 1,554 foot (AGL) radio tower planned to be located
9.47 nautical miles northeast of the Ocala - Taylor Airport (OCF).
>
> If you are willing to help, please print the below letter as a word document
and mail it to the FAA Southern Region no later than Saturday, March 15,=202003.
At the bottom of the letter please sign it and write your address on=20it.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Randy Hansen
> EAA Government and Industry Relations
> govt@eaa.org
>
> Letter follows
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -=20-
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -=20-
- - - - - -
>
>
> March 14, 2003
>
>
> Ms. Carolyn Blum
> Administrator, FAA Southern Region
> P.O. Box 20636
> Atlanta, GA 30320
>
> Dear Administrator Blum:
>
> Reference: Comments to Public Notice No. 2002-ASO-4832-OE, ASO-520
>
> I object to the proposed construction of the new WOGK radio station antenna tower,
as described by this FAA Public Notice.
>
> The location of the tower places it in one of the most heavily flown VFR corridors
in the state of Florida. With the Palatka MOA and R-2906/2907/2910 on the
eastern side and the very active general/corporate aviation Ocala-Taylor airport
to the west, VFR pilots are forced to fly in a very narrow north/south corridor.
The western restrictions also include the IFR airways (with low MEA>
'> s) including, V159. V295, V537, V581 and V441, which force VFR pilots to transition
through the area at a relatively low altitude.
>
> The cumulative effect these > "> obstacles> "> to VFR flight create a VFR corridor
bounded by the Grey Stone Airport (Pvt.) on the west and the Palatka MOA
on the east. Local pilots estimate over 100 aircraft transition through this
corridor every day.
>
> I realize the proposed tower is being located near an existing 1, 369> '>=20
tower under the FAA> '> s > "> antenna farm> "> obstacle reduction program.
However, this tower is 176> '> taller. That increased height makes this tower
an extreme hazard to the hundreds of VFR pilots who transition through this
4 nm wide corridor on a daily basis.
>
> For the safety of general aviation in the central Florida area, I urge the FAA
to issue a finding of > "> Determination of Hazard to Air Navigation> "> for
this antenna tower.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> name
> address
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
We have sent a similar letter that was drafted by someone here at Leeward.
Ernie
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Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/13/2003 12:25:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
govt@eaa.org
> writes:
> Hay folks,
>
> Please drop a letter to the FAA Southern Region about this stupid tower.
> Make sure you use the public notice number. Its just a short time left.
> This tower is just another TV thing and it being as close to OCF Ocala as
it
> is planned is really dumb. However as stupid as it is (1,554 feet for
crying
> out laud) the Feds need to know about it. Please help.
>
> Jim Goolsby
>
> >
> > > EAA Members in Florida. A group of EAAer's in central Florida are
asking
> > for help in fighting a proposed 1,554 foot (AGL) radio tower planned to
be
> > located 9.47 nautical miles northeast of the Ocala - Taylor Airport
(OCF).
> > >
> > > If you are willing to help, please print the below letter as a word
> > document and mail it to the FAA Southern Region no later than Saturday,
> > March 15, 2003. At the bottom of the letter please sign it and write
your
> > address on it.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance.
> > >
> > > Randy Hansen
> > > EAA Government and Industry Relations
> > > govt@eaa.org
> > >
> > > Letter follows
> >
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-
> > - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > March 14, 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ms. Carolyn Blum
> > > Administrator, FAA Southern Region
> > > P.O. Box 20636
> > > Atlanta, GA 30320
> > >
> > > Dear Administrator Blum:
> > >
> > > Reference: Comments to Public Notice No. 2002-ASO-4832-OE, ASO-520
> > >
> > > I object to the proposed construction of the new WOGK radio station
> > antenna tower, as described by this FAA Public Notice.
> > >
> > > The location of the tower places it in one of the most heavily flown
VFR
> > corridors in the state of Florida. With the Palatka MOA and
> > R-2906/2907/2910 on the eastern side and the very active
general/corporate
> > aviation Ocala-Taylor airport to the west, VFR pilots are forced to fly
in
> > a very narrow north/south corridor. The western restrictions also
include
> > the IFR airways (with low MEA> '> s) including, V159. V295, V537, V581
and
> > V441, which force VFR pilots to transition through the area at a
relatively
> > low altitude.
> > >
> > > The cumulative effect these > "> obstacles> "> to VFR flight create a
> > VFR corridor bounded by the Grey Stone Airport (Pvt.) on the west and
the
> > Palatka MOA on the east. Local pilots estimate over 100 aircraft
> > transition through this corridor every day.
> > >
> > > I realize the proposed tower is being located near an existing 1, 369>
'>
> > tower under the FAA> '> s > "> antenna farm> "> obstacle reduction
> > program. However, this tower is 176> '> taller. That increased height
> > makes this tower an extreme hazard to the hundreds of VFR pilots who
> > transition through this 4 nm wide corridor on a daily basis.
> > >
> > > For the safety of general aviation in the central Florida area, I urge
> > the FAA to issue a finding of > "> Determination of Hazard to Air
> > Navigation> "> for this antenna tower.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > >
> > > name
> > > address
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> Jim
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
>
>
> Subject: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:24:36 -0600
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>
>
> > EAA Members in Florida. A group of EAAer's in central Florida are
asking=20for help in fighting a proposed 1,554 foot (AGL) radio tower
planned to be located 9.47 nautical miles northeast of the Ocala - Taylor
Airport (OCF).
> >
> > If you are willing to help, please print the below letter as a word
document and mail it to the FAA Southern Region no later than Saturday,
March 15,=202003. At the bottom of the letter please sign it and write your
address on=20it.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Randy Hansen
> > EAA Government and Industry Relations
> > govt@eaa.org
> >
> > Letter follows
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -20-
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-=20- - - - - - -
> >
> >
> > March 14, 2003
> >
> >
> > Ms. Carolyn Blum
> > Administrator, FAA Southern Region
> > P.O. Box 20636
> > Atlanta, GA 30320
> >
> > Dear Administrator Blum:
> >
> > Reference: Comments to Public Notice No. 2002-ASO-4832-OE, ASO-520
> >
> > I object to the proposed construction of the new WOGK radio station
antenna tower, as described by this FAA Public Notice.
> >
> > The location of the tower places it in one of the most heavily flown VFR
corridors in the state of Florida. With the Palatka MOA and
R-2906/2907/2910 on the eastern side and the very active general/corporate
aviation Ocala-Taylor airport to the west, VFR pilots are forced to fly in a
very narrow north/south corridor. The western restrictions also include the
IFR airways (with low MEA> '> s) including, V159. V295, V537, V581 and V441,
which force VFR pilots to transition through the area at a relatively low
altitude.
> >
> > The cumulative effect these > "> obstacles> "> to VFR flight create a
VFR corridor bounded by the Grey Stone Airport (Pvt.) on the west and the
Palatka MOA on the east. Local pilots estimate over 100 aircraft transition
through this corridor every day.
> >
> > I realize the proposed tower is being located near an existing 1, 369>
'>=20 tower under the FAA> '> s > "> antenna farm> "> obstacle reduction
program. However, this tower is 176> '> taller. That increased height
makes this tower an extreme hazard to the hundreds of VFR pilots who
transition through this 4 nm wide corridor on a daily basis.
> >
> > For the safety of general aviation in the central Florida area, I urge
the FAA to issue a finding of > "> Determination of Hazard to Air
Navigation> "> for this antenna tower.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > name
> > address
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Done!
Dennis Savarese
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Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/13/2003 12:25:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
govt@eaa.org
> writes:
> Hay folks,
>
> Please drop a letter to the FAA Southern Region about this stupid tower.
> Make sure you use the public notice number. Its just a short time left.
> This tower is just another TV thing and it being as close to OCF Ocala as
it
> is planned is really dumb. However as stupid as it is (1,554 feet for
crying
> out laud) the Feds need to know about it. Please help.
>
> Jim Goolsby
>
> >
> > > EAA Members in Florida. A group of EAAer's in central Florida are
asking
> > for help in fighting a proposed 1,554 foot (AGL) radio tower planned to
be
> > located 9.47 nautical miles northeast of the Ocala - Taylor Airport
(OCF).
> > >
> > > If you are willing to help, please print the below letter as a word
> > document and mail it to the FAA Southern Region no later than Saturday,
> > March 15, 2003. At the bottom of the letter please sign it and write
your
> > address on it.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance.
> > >
> > > Randy Hansen
> > > EAA Government and Industry Relations
> > > govt@eaa.org
> > >
> > > Letter follows
> >
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-
> > - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > March 14, 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ms. Carolyn Blum
> > > Administrator, FAA Southern Region
> > > P.O. Box 20636
> > > Atlanta, GA 30320
> > >
> > > Dear Administrator Blum:
> > >
> > > Reference: Comments to Public Notice No. 2002-ASO-4832-OE, ASO-520
> > >
> > > I object to the proposed construction of the new WOGK radio station
> > antenna tower, as described by this FAA Public Notice.
> > >
> > > The location of the tower places it in one of the most heavily flown
VFR
> > corridors in the state of Florida. With the Palatka MOA and
> > R-2906/2907/2910 on the eastern side and the very active
general/corporate
> > aviation Ocala-Taylor airport to the west, VFR pilots are forced to fly
in
> > a very narrow north/south corridor. The western restrictions also
include
> > the IFR airways (with low MEA> '> s) including, V159. V295, V537, V581
and
> > V441, which force VFR pilots to transition through the area at a
relatively
> > low altitude.
> > >
> > > The cumulative effect these > "> obstacles> "> to VFR flight create a
> > VFR corridor bounded by the Grey Stone Airport (Pvt.) on the west and
the
> > Palatka MOA on the east. Local pilots estimate over 100 aircraft
> > transition through this corridor every day.
> > >
> > > I realize the proposed tower is being located near an existing 1, 369>
'>
> > tower under the FAA> '> s > "> antenna farm> "> obstacle reduction
> > program. However, this tower is 176> '> taller. That increased height
> > makes this tower an extreme hazard to the hundreds of VFR pilots who
> > transition through this 4 nm wide corridor on a daily basis.
> > >
> > > For the safety of general aviation in the central Florida area, I urge
> > the FAA to issue a finding of > "> Determination of Hazard to Air
> > Navigation> "> for this antenna tower.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > >
> > > name
> > > address
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> Jim
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
>
>
> Subject: EAA Florida Members Radio Antenna Help Request
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:24:36 -0600
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>
>
> > EAA Members in Florida. A group of EAAer's in central Florida are
asking=20for help in fighting a proposed 1,554 foot (AGL) radio tower
planned to be located 9.47 nautical miles northeast of the Ocala - Taylor
Airport (OCF).
> >
> > If you are willing to help, please print the below letter as a word
document and mail it to the FAA Southern Region no later than Saturday,
March 15,=202003. At the bottom of the letter please sign it and write your
address on=20it.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Randy Hansen
> > EAA Government and Industry Relations
> > govt@eaa.org
> >
> > Letter follows
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -20-
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-=20- - - - - - -
> >
> >
> > March 14, 2003
> >
> >
> > Ms. Carolyn Blum
> > Administrator, FAA Southern Region
> > P.O. Box 20636
> > Atlanta, GA 30320
> >
> > Dear Administrator Blum:
> >
> > Reference: Comments to Public Notice No. 2002-ASO-4832-OE, ASO-520
> >
> > I object to the proposed construction of the new WOGK radio station
antenna tower, as described by this FAA Public Notice.
> >
> > The location of the tower places it in one of the most heavily flown VFR
corridors in the state of Florida. With the Palatka MOA and
R-2906/2907/2910 on the eastern side and the very active general/corporate
aviation Ocala-Taylor airport to the west, VFR pilots are forced to fly in a
very narrow north/south corridor. The western restrictions also include the
IFR airways (with low MEA> '> s) including, V159. V295, V537, V581 and V441,
which force VFR pilots to transition through the area at a relatively low
altitude.
> >
> > The cumulative effect these > "> obstacles> "> to VFR flight create a
VFR corridor bounded by the Grey Stone Airport (Pvt.) on the west and the
Palatka MOA on the east. Local pilots estimate over 100 aircraft transition
through this corridor every day.
> >
> > I realize the proposed tower is being located near an existing 1, 369>
'>=20 tower under the FAA> '> s > "> antenna farm> "> obstacle reduction
program. However, this tower is 176> '> taller. That increased height
makes this tower an extreme hazard to the hundreds of VFR pilots who
transition through this 4 nm wide corridor on a daily basis.
> >
> > For the safety of general aviation in the central Florida area, I urge
the FAA to issue a finding of > "> Determination of Hazard to Air
Navigation> "> for this antenna tower.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > name
> > address
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Children of military personnel |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Children of military personelI got this message back from EAA today regarding the
idea about flying service kids.
Gus
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Buss [mailto:sbuss@eaa.org]
Subject: RE: Children of military personnel
Hi Gus,
Thanks for your suggestion. We are looking at how we can get the word out to our
Chapters and members and encourage them to seek out these children. It will
also be important to find those in the Reserves, since many of those children
are located in the "general" population.
Thanks again for passing on your suggestion. Keep 'em coming!
Take care,
Steve Buss
EAA Young Eagles
-----Original Message-----
From: Young Eagles
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:21 PM
To: Steve Buss
Subject: FW: Children of military personel
-----Original Message-----
From: Gus Fraser [mailto:fraseg@comcast.net]
Sent: Sat 3/8/2003 6:27 AM
To: Young Eagles
Cc: rnb01@northnet.net
Subject: Children of military personel
Dear sir/madam
I am British, and an ex serviceman. I was devastated by the news that the
children of servicemen overseas are being taunted at school. I would like to
suggest that we try and organize some nationwide Young Eagles sessions with
specific invitations to local military establishments for families effected
to come and have a special day to help ease the troubles, of seperation from
a parent or parents. Pick a day and set the chapters the task of doing
flights on a specific day. Coordinated Young eagles flights, what an idea.
Personally I am looking at contacting Maguire AFB my local establistment
about an event in the summer. We can offer a brief escape from the troubles
of the day as well as an experience of a lifetime.
There is now down side to this
Apart from the obvious personal benifits it would provide the following
1. Gets pilots motivated to get the numbers for the 1,000,000 goal with the
adition of performing an act that helps in the current crisis.
2. A chance for great publicity for EAA and GA.
You may want to suggest to the pilots that they may want to write to the
vacant parent to report on the flight to provide another + from the flights.
I would be interested in your thoughts on my proposal.
Gus Fraser
KLDJ N52EK Yak 52 (Experimental).
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
Yes, it's the "Slayer's" plane. I traded with him for my T-28.
Jim G
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Yak-List: External power adapter
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
>
> Jim,
>
> Is this the CJ last owned by Sal Salibi?
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
>
> There is a custom fitted backing plate attached to the crank about 6
inches
> behind the blades. There is only about 3 inches clearance between the
> spinner base and the cowling.
>
> Jim Griffin
> CJ6-A
> 273SC
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> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: External power adapter
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Jim,
It was Steve Culp that orginally certified that A/C, the reason why it
is so bare is that Steve stripped it clean of wiring and equipment, ergo
it is real light and fast. Have you ever checked your speed at full
throttle and full RPM?
Craig Payne
Jim Griffin wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
>
> Yes, it's the "Slayer's" plane. I traded with him for my T-28.
> Jim G
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cpayne@mc.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Re: Yak-List: External power adapter
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Is this the CJ last owned by Sal Salibi?
> >
> > Craig Payne
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
> >
> > There is a custom fitted backing plate attached to the crank about 6
> inches
> > behind the blades. There is only about 3 inches clearance between the
> > spinner base and the cowling.
> >
> > Jim Griffin
> > CJ6-A
> > 273SC
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
I have never done it. Steve told me that he flew it at 175 knots. I usually
fly it at 150 knots turning 2100 RPM and 7 to 7 1/2 Atm. with about one
third of the throttle left. The plane weighs 2100 lbs. empty. He did a
really nice job on the plane. He is a talented guy.
Jim Griffin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@mc.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: External power adapter
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
>
> Jim,
>
> It was Steve Culp that orginally certified that A/C, the reason why it
> is so bare is that Steve stripped it clean of wiring and equipment, ergo
> it is real light and fast. Have you ever checked your speed at full
> throttle and full RPM?
>
> Craig Payne
>
> Jim Griffin wrote:
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
> >
> > Yes, it's the "Slayer's" plane. I traded with him for my T-28.
> > Jim G
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <cpayne@mc.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Re: Yak-List: External power adapter
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > Is this the CJ last owned by Sal Salibi?
> > >
> > > Craig Payne
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
> > >
> > > There is a custom fitted backing plate attached to the crank about 6
> > inches
> > > behind the blades. There is only about 3 inches clearance between the
> > > spinner base and the cowling.
> > >
> > > Jim Griffin
> > > CJ6-A
> > > 273SC
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>
>
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