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1. 01:08 AM - Air filter (Lou Dakos)
2. 05:18 AM - Re: Restrictions (Ernie)
3. 05:32 AM - Re: Restrictions (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: Air filter (cpayne@mc.net)
5. 05:56 AM - Re: Restrictions (Brian Lloyd)
6. 06:16 AM - Lou, (Jim Bernier)
7. 06:32 AM - Re: Lou, (Ernie)
8. 06:44 AM - Re: Restrictions (A. Dennis Savarese)
9. 06:50 AM - Re: Lou, (Brian Lloyd)
10. 07:06 AM - Props (Ernie)
11. 08:08 AM - Re: RAM air (cpayne@mc.net)
12. 09:20 AM - Re: RAM air (Brian Lloyd)
13. 09:41 AM - Re: RAM air (Roy O. Wright)
14. 09:52 AM - Re: RAM air (Brian Lloyd)
15. 11:51 AM - terrorist (Doug)
16. 12:43 PM - Re: bent props and other things (Dave Laird)
17. 02:44 PM - War and TFR's (Craig Payne)
18. 02:50 PM - Re: bent props and other things (ByronMFox@aol.com)
19. 03:12 PM - Hey folks! (Drew Blahnick)
20. 03:31 PM - Re: Props (Gus Fraser)
21. 05:27 PM - Re: bent props and other things (Brian Lloyd)
22. 08:02 PM - Bagbad (Terry)
23. 08:47 PM - Re: Bagbad (Roy O. Wright)
24. 09:44 PM - Re: Bagbad (E R)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
Has anyone fitted a modern air filter to a Cj6a I would like to put one on mine
and get rid of the boulder blocker.
Lou
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| Subject: | Re: Restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
For what its worth. When I purchased my Jet I had to submit a new cover
letter to my Operating limitations stating the new homebase and IA
performing the maintenance and I was issued a new AC. When I purchased my CJ
all I did was re-register, however I didnt have to change the home base.
The point that an airworthiness certificate cannot be superceded is not
entirely correct. If you read the ops limitations it specifically states
when a new certificate needs to be issued. Its a little more stingent for
jets since we have to show an approved maintenance program. But otherwise
the Special Airworthiness Certificate Experimental/Exibition is not a holy
grail and just becuase it says "unlimited" that unlimited only applies if
all the conditions that existed continues to apply. Once any factor changes
which applies to the aircraft such as homebase then a new airworthiness cert
has to be issued.
With Jets even a change of ownership needs to be changed since the operating
limitations specifically mention it. I just read my ops limitations for the
CJ and its a bit vauge. The letterhead lists the previous owner but no
mention is made about applying for a new airworthiness certificate in case
of change of ownership, only in the case of the new home base. All it states
is that in the case of a change of ownership a new registration form must be
submited.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jon@zoso.email.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Restrictions
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@zoso.email.net>
>
> Our FAA guy has stated *repeatedly* that the airworthiness certificate
> remains in effect even if you have to get new operating limitations...
> they CANNOT revoke an airworthiness certificate that has "unlimited" on
> the expiration date. In fact, he's been quite gleeful in pointing out
> that there's been no mechanism provided for revoking an airworthiness
> certificate.
>
> You have a couple of options...
>
> First, you can get the new FSDO to issue limitations from 8130.2D, which
> are pretty livable. If they insist on adding nonsense to them such as
> land/t-o at a single airport (which they're not supposed to do), then:
>
> Second, it would be possible to get your current FSDO to simply ammend
> your limitations and change your operating base. This might make the new
> FSDO mad, but only if you tell them. :-)
>
> In either case, get your current FSDO to acknowlege a letter noting that
> you're moving your aircraft to a new base. If your current limitations
> don't give a time frame for having to get new limitations issued, you can
> play "nanner nanner" with your new FSDO (uh, being careful not to make
> them mad :-) for a very long time.
>
> If it gets weird, get the EAA Legal guys to call into the new FSDO and ask
> them why they're wasting the taxpayers' money dragging out something
> that's clearly not a safety-of-flight issue.
>
> Jon
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > It clearly states in FAA Order 8130.2D Change 3 that OL's and AC are
> > tied together. "....These operating limitations
> > are a part of the special airworthiness certificate...". Once the home
> > base airport changes, the OL's are effectively null and void and
> > therefore so is the AC.
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Restrictions
> >
> >
> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> If they tell you that you will have to get a new Airworthiness
> >> Certificate with the new operating limits, tell them to show you where
> >> it says you
> > have
> >> to this. I don't believe they can do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
> >> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >> >To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Restrictions
> >> >Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:25:56 -0600
> >> >
> >> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
> >> >
> >> >Uh, gee, my CJ was certified in the post-moratorium era when there
> >> was no common language. It is "Experimental-Exhibition/Air racing"
> >> with fairly benign restrictions. Of course the category is the reason
> >> why I race it...
> >> >
> >> >I plan on moving from the Chicago FSDO area this year to the Tampa
> >> area so I need to dig out those old posts to see how others did it
> >> without getting hosed by some FSDO type protecting the world against
> >> Communism.
> >> >
> >> >So did someone say that the list was useless???
> >> >
> >> >Craig Payne
> >> >
> >> >A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> >> <adsavar@gte.net>
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree "Other" is not an Experimental classification. However it
> >> IS
> > a
> >> > > Group classification (Group IV) under Experimental Exhibition
> >> which is
> >> >where
> >> > > our CJ6's and YAK52's fall (Group III). That is what I was
> >> referring
> >> >to in
> >> > > previous posts.
> >> > > Dennis Savarese
> >> >======================================================================
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
That's the problem....no consistency. Interpretation of the FAA Order is
what it's all about. I wish what you said was 100% true Jon, but in fact as
the Order clearly states, the two are tied directly together. Changing the
OL's, which includes simply changing the home base airport, also impacts the
AC.
I think I'll just wait and see what Craig's experience will be when he
relocates to FL. I know what mine was and as I've said in previous posts,
if the OL's were written under a previous version of either 8130.2 or 8127,
they can be rewritten to fit the current version. The inspector pointed it
out/made me read it when I challenged him on voiding the AC. Here again, it
depends on the inspectors interpretation of the Order.
I seriously doubt that his current FSDO will issue/amend his operating
limitations to reflect a home airport outside of their jurisdiction. But
there is a solution to the problem of issuing new OL's and an AC when an
aircraft is relocated. This exists today in several 52's OL's and it's the
most intelligent use of the "system". Since the Program Letter requires
updating annually or if the aircraft is relocated to a new area, a new
Program Letter (which is part of the OL's) is required, the OL's can refer
to the home base airport AS LISTED IN THE OWNERS PROGRAM LETTER. Thus,
regardless of where the aircraft is located, the owner simply updates his
program letter to reflect the new home base airport. If the airplane is
sold, the new owner must certify he has read and agrees to comply with the
aircraft's existing operating limitations. Using this methodology, the OL's
and AC would only have to be issued once and the Program Letter is the
vehicle that changes the home base airport along with the events the
aircraft will participate in during the coming year or amendments thereof.
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jon@zoso.email.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Restrictions
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@zoso.email.net>
>
> Our FAA guy has stated *repeatedly* that the airworthiness certificate
> remains in effect even if you have to get new operating limitations...
> they CANNOT revoke an airworthiness certificate that has "unlimited" on
> the expiration date. In fact, he's been quite gleeful in pointing out
> that there's been no mechanism provided for revoking an airworthiness
> certificate.
>
> You have a couple of options...
>
> First, you can get the new FSDO to issue limitations from 8130.2D, which
> are pretty livable. If they insist on adding nonsense to them such as
> land/t-o at a single airport (which they're not supposed to do), then:
>
> Second, it would be possible to get your current FSDO to simply ammend
> your limitations and change your operating base. This might make the new
> FSDO mad, but only if you tell them. :-)
>
> In either case, get your current FSDO to acknowlege a letter noting that
> you're moving your aircraft to a new base. If your current limitations
> don't give a time frame for having to get new limitations issued, you can
> play "nanner nanner" with your new FSDO (uh, being careful not to make
> them mad :-) for a very long time.
>
> If it gets weird, get the EAA Legal guys to call into the new FSDO and ask
> them why they're wasting the taxpayers' money dragging out something
> that's clearly not a safety-of-flight issue.
>
> Jon
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > It clearly states in FAA Order 8130.2D Change 3 that OL's and AC are
> > tied together. "....These operating limitations
> > are a part of the special airworthiness certificate...". Once the home
> > base airport changes, the OL's are effectively null and void and
> > therefore so is the AC.
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Restrictions
> >
> >
> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> If they tell you that you will have to get a new Airworthiness
> >> Certificate with the new operating limits, tell them to show you where
> >> it says you
> > have
> >> to this. I don't believe they can do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
> >> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >> >To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Restrictions
> >> >Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:25:56 -0600
> >> >
> >> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
> >> >
> >> >Uh, gee, my CJ was certified in the post-moratorium era when there
> >> was no common language. It is "Experimental-Exhibition/Air racing"
> >> with fairly benign restrictions. Of course the category is the reason
> >> why I race it...
> >> >
> >> >I plan on moving from the Chicago FSDO area this year to the Tampa
> >> area so I need to dig out those old posts to see how others did it
> >> without getting hosed by some FSDO type protecting the world against
> >> Communism.
> >> >
> >> >So did someone say that the list was useless???
> >> >
> >> >Craig Payne
> >> >
> >> >A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> >> <adsavar@gte.net>
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree "Other" is not an Experimental classification. However it
> >> IS
> > a
> >> > > Group classification (Group IV) under Experimental Exhibition
> >> which is
> >> >where
> >> > > our CJ6's and YAK52's fall (Group III). That is what I was
> >> referring
> >> >to in
> >> > > previous posts.
> >> > > Dennis Savarese
> >> >======================================================================
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
Yes, order some from Brackett, the folks that make replacements for spammers. Fits
right over the flame suppressor.
I forget the code #, I'll look it up. I also unsoldered the screen attached to
the suppressor since the foam filter does
all of the work. (Speed Secret, Barry)
Craig Payne
-----Original Message-----
From: lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au
Subject: Yak-List: Air filter
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
Has anyone fitted a modern air filter to a Cj6a I would like to put one on mine
and get rid of the boulder blocker.
Lou
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| Subject: | Re: Restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ernie wrote:
> I just read my ops limitations for the
> CJ and its a bit vauge. The letterhead lists the previous owner but no
> mention is made about applying for a new airworthiness certificate in case
> of change of ownership, only in the case of the new home base. All it states
> is that in the case of a change of ownership a new registration form must be
> submited.
That is right because the LoL lists the home base and if the home base changes,
you need a new LoL. That is usually accompanied by a new AC ... at least it has
with my airplanes and with those I have helped to reregister.
Normally the home base is explicitly listed in the LoL which ensures that you
have to jump through all the hoops should you change the home base. I have
heard of people getting the LoL to refer to the program letter to list the home
base. Since the program letter is updated by the owner as necessary, it would
potentially allow the owner to move the home base without having to get a new
LoL/AC issued. This would greatly simplify the life of the next owner or if you
wish to move the airplane since it would not involve the FSDO with the exception
of filing a new program letter with the local FSDO every time you make a move.
I like that idea and will pursue that approach with the MIDO and/or FSDO when it
comes time to issue the AC for The Project.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Lou,
Like you I want to change the air filter system. I've been looking at the K&N Filters
built for a GM 350. The 350 can turn 5,000 rpm, while our engines are 620
ci turning 2300 rpm. These two engines require the same amount of air. I'm
going to look at any K&N filter that is designed for a 350 and fits in the a/c
cowling. Mounting should be straight forward, flat plate on top and bottom. Now
that its in, we need to deflect the on coming air so large particle are deflected
away from the filter but contained in a housing in order to utilize the
ram affect. Getting hot air to the intake is another matter. I'm in Texas, with
our average temperatures and a pressure carburetor I don't believe this to
be a problem.
It may be experimental, but be cautious.
Good luck.
Jim B
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I'm not sure if RAM air would make much of a difference since the engine is
supercharged.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Subject: Yak-List: Lou,
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>
> Lou,
>
> Like you I want to change the air filter system. I've been looking at the
K&N Filters built for a GM 350. The 350 can turn 5,000 rpm, while our
engines are 620 ci turning 2300 rpm. These two engines require the same
amount of air. I'm going to look at any K&N filter that is designed for a
350 and fits in the a/c cowling. Mounting should be straight forward, flat
plate on top and bottom. Now that its in, we need to deflect the on coming
air so large particle are deflected away from the filter but contained in a
housing in order to utilize the ram affect. Getting hot air to the intake is
another matter. I'm in Texas, with our average temperatures and a pressure
carburetor I don't believe this to be a problem.
> It may be experimental, but be cautious.
> Good luck.
> Jim B
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Restrictions |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
You're right on the money Brian.
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Restrictions
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> Ernie wrote:
> > I just read my ops limitations for the
> > CJ and its a bit vauge. The letterhead lists the previous owner but no
> > mention is made about applying for a new airworthiness certificate in
case
> > of change of ownership, only in the case of the new home base. All it
states
> > is that in the case of a change of ownership a new registration form
must be
> > submited.
>
> That is right because the LoL lists the home base and if the home base
changes,
> you need a new LoL. That is usually accompanied by a new AC ... at least
it has
> with my airplanes and with those I have helped to reregister.
>
> Normally the home base is explicitly listed in the LoL which ensures that
you
> have to jump through all the hoops should you change the home base. I
have
> heard of people getting the LoL to refer to the program letter to list the
home
> base. Since the program letter is updated by the owner as necessary, it
would
> potentially allow the owner to move the home base without having to get a
new
> LoL/AC issued. This would greatly simplify the life of the next owner or
if you
> wish to move the airplane since it would not involve the FSDO with the
exception
> of filing a new program letter with the local FSDO every time you make a
move.
> I like that idea and will pursue that approach with the MIDO and/or FSDO
when it
> comes time to issue the AC for The Project.
>
> --
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
> brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ernie wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I'm not sure if RAM air would make much of a difference since the engine is
> supercharged.
The intake is already at a high-pressure point on the cowl so you get some
positive pressure to help overcome any restrictions in the induction.
And, yes, ram air will have an effect. The supercharger is capable of an 85mm
(3.3") pressure differential so the higher the pressure at the inlet of the
supercharger, the higher the pressure at the outlet.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Doug
Whats involved in replacing prop blades. My local prop shop isnt comfortable swapping
the good blades from my old hub to my new hub. Is there anything speical
I should know about, are there any special tools I need or procedures I'm supposed
to know? Can my IA do the blade swap?
Thanks
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@mc.net
RAM does make a difference; in my setup anyway. Rather than let induction air bleed
into the lower pressure, back side
of the cowl, I have sealed up the filter housing as an airbox and made a set of
"lips" for induction air. At near sea level,
where the pressure is about 760mm, I can get 900mm with the M-14. That's +140mm
over static. Normally, only +125mm
could be expected for the M-14P.
Mooney's have long had an induction system that added an extra "inch" or so, allowing
more speed AND efficiency
at altitude. No reason why Nanchangs can't do the same. Of course Yaks don't go
fast enough to generate any
ram effext...but we love them anyway :)
Craig Payne
-----Original Message-----
From: ernest.martinez@oracle.com
Subject: Yak-List: Lou,
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I'm not sure if RAM air would make much of a difference since the engine is
supercharged.
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
cpayne@mc.net wrote:
> Mooney's have long had an induction system that added an extra "inch" or so,
allowing more speed AND efficiency
> at altitude. No reason why Nanchangs can't do the same. Of course Yaks don't
go fast enough to generate any
> ram effext...but we love them anyway :)
It is not so much "ram" air effect. That happens at higher velocities. Still,
you can place the intake at a high-pressure point on the airframe and gain some
additional flow into the induction system. One of the tricks is to open out the
intake into a plenum in order to reduce flow velocity at the air filter. This
reduces velocity losses. At that point you neck down to the carb throat in
order to increase the velocity again. I did that on my RV-4 and was able to see
about 1.5" MAP improvement.
My little O-320-powered RV-4 turned in 190 kts at 3000' with a fixed-pitch wood
prop. Let's see you catch that with a CJ6A.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
What, you didn't put a M14P on your RV? <G>
Have fun,
Roy
At 01:19 PM 3/19/2003 -0400, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> I did that on my RV-4 and was able to see
>about 1.5" MAP improvement.
>
>My little O-320-powered RV-4 turned in 190 kts at 3000' with a fixed-pitch wood
>prop. Let's see you catch that with a CJ6A.
>--
',,'',,'',,',,'
Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com
Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Roy O. Wright wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
>
> What, you didn't put a M14P on your RV? <G>
It was merely an oversight. I didn't know anything about the M14P when I had my
RV-4. You can rest assured that, next time I build an RV-4 I will equip it
properly. :
)
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
http://www.confound.com/games/squoosh_terrorist.php
Try not to kill the camels.
Doug Sapp
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Blitz,
I did my CJ6A transition training with Brian Lloyd (and bought Betty
from him as well), and was taught to use a "flow" procedure for
start-up. This procedure starts on the aft left corner of the cockpit,
at the Main Air Valve, and works its way around to the right all the
way to the primer.
After the engine is started, Brian's checklist has me check the Main
Air Valve and associated pressure a second time. And Brian's checklist
even has the Main Air Valve checked a third time before take off!
I know that for me the flow method is really intuitive... as Brian
'sez: "Your mileage may vary"...
Dave Laird
N63536 "Betty"
Dallas
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Note that there is now a TFR over Disney World, near to our base of ops
for Sun 'n Fun. Chicago's major is having a fit because Mickey and
Minnie have a no-fly zone and he dosesn't. Whatsamatter, Goofy can't get
no respect?
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: bent props and other things |
--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
Thanks, Dave. Can you send me a copy of Brian's checklist by e-mail? Don't
go to a lot of trouble. just send it, if it's easy. Thanks, Blitz
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <Drew@allredstar.com>
Hi folks,
Our crew rotated in for a few days of R&R. At kickoff, I might be rooting my favorite
combined arms football team from a local pub myself! Morale is high for
the flyers, but the occupants of our tent cities were getting impatient with
the UN and FRENCH delaying and whinning - some have been there over four months
and were/are itching to unload a clip or two...thousand ;) This isn't the
forum for this, but I can't say enough about the French government, and the
damage they attempted at our expense -
Barry Hancock has been taking up the direct organizational issues for this years
All Red Star II while I'm on the road and is doing great, a real effort for
anyone, and with the help of volunteers such as Mark Schrick keeping the pressure
on some of our corperate sponsors and other acts of altruism, the event looks
great. Thanks to everyone who has, and will, volunteer to train, assist and
otherwise support the community this year. And when things settle down we
hope to look at a All Red Star East, this has always been the objective...
By the way, among the pile of mail when I got in was a box with two innocent looking
red and white billiard balls...except these had no numbers and are ringed
with the Soviet Stars of the All Red Star logo...I certainly hope and expect
this years crud tournament is also a victory party for us all.
Drew
Deployed E-mail: drewblahnick@hotmail.com
Drew Allen Blahnick
All Red Stars
Cell310-386-9181
www.allredstar.com
"Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Ernie,
What you need is my Hub spanner. It is a one of a kind and made from
hardened steel. Is your hub a 52 or a CJ ?
Mine is for a 52. If it is of any use to you then I will send it to you for
a loan.
The important thing with a 52 prop is to ensure GOOD lubrication of the
bearings (an annual thing) and that the lugs on the blades have located
correctly when the new blades are inserted. Also, when you look at the
blades and the hub you sill see numbers on the blades, hub and locking
plates. These must all line up when the blades are replaced as these ate
balance and location marks.
Of course, if yours is a CJ your on your own I have no advice.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Yak-List: Props
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Doug
Whats involved in replacing prop blades. My local prop shop isnt comfortable
swapping the good blades from my old hub to my new hub. Is there anything
speical I should know about, are there any special tools I need or
procedures I'm supposed to know? Can my IA do the blade swap?
Thanks
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
ByronMFox@aol.com wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
>
> Thanks, Dave. Can you send me a copy of Brian's checklist by e-mail? Don't
> go to a lot of trouble. just send it, if it's easy. Thanks, Blitz
It is on the CJ6A web site. See http://www.cj6.org and look under useful docs.
It is the one that Jeff Linebaugh put together and he and I modified some
years ago.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talewis@attbi.com>
The " THE FIGHTS ON". We have the best of the best, in the Field, and in the Air
and on the Sea. We will be victorious !
Let us pray for their safe return home.
Gods Speed,
Terry
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
From: http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA01&cp1=1
"NBC News Jim Miklaszewski reported that U.S. forces had launched a
preliminary wave of attacks using B-1, B-2, B-52 bombers, as well as
F-117 stealth bombers flying from three aircraft carriers, ..."
I'd just love to see a B-52 catch the three wire... or a B-2 cat launch...
<G>
Have fun,
Roy
',,'',,'',,',,'
Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com
Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
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--> Yak-List message posted by: E R <jogggles@yahoo.com>
I am sticking close to CNN hoping the troops entertain US with a nationally-broadcasted
ass-kicking.
"Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O.
Wright"
From: http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA01&cp1=1
"NBC News Jim Miklaszewski reported that U.S. forces had launched a
preliminary wave of attacks using B-1, B-2, B-52 bombers, as well as
F-117 stealth bombers flying from three aircraft carriers, ..."
I'd just love to see a B-52 catch the three wire... or a B-2 cat launch...
Have fun,
Roy
',,'',,'',,',,'
Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com
Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
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