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1. 06:54 AM - Elevator instalation (jay reiter)
2. 11:00 AM - Please do not fabricate false emails from me (Andrew Zheng)
3. 11:32 AM - Re: Unsubscribe (F4cmac@aol.com)
4. 11:47 AM - Re: elevator ballance (Walt Lannon)
5. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: Unsubscribe (Cy Galley)
6. 03:51 PM - Re: Elevator instalation (Lou Dakos)
7. 06:17 PM - Hose and Firesleeve (Don Boardman)
8. 06:20 PM - Re: National Geographic statement regarding Peter Arnett (cjpilot710@aol.com)
9. 07:15 PM - Re: Elevator instalation (jay reiter)
10. 08:08 PM - S&F over (cjpilot710@aol.com)
11. 09:12 PM - Re: Elevator instalation (A. Dennis Savarese)
12. 10:57 PM - Re: Elevator instalation (Lou Dakos)
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| Subject: | Elevator instalation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
We had a problem installing the elevator because a sealed non centering bearing
had previously been installed in the inboard position. The pivot pin would go
into the bearing half way and lock. One of the other fellows noticed the bearing
bracket was flexing with each push we inserted a screwdriver in the elevator
slot to back up the bracket with one person holding the screwdriver at the
top and one at the bottom. The three of us pushed at the same time and the elevator
seated. Hope this helps someone. Jay
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| Subject: | Please do not fabricate false emails from me |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Andrew Zheng <goldtel@shaw.ca>
David, you have bad memory. Do you still remember what you asked us from the same
email? I happened to have a bad habit to save every pieces of all documents.
Here you are again:
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Strawn
Subject: Fw: David Strawn's CJ - Engine Must Be Replaced
Andrew, I just wrote a check to Doug Sapp for $12,500 for a Huosai engine. If
you will reimburse me $10,000, we will consider this matter closed and you have
stood behind your product.
Do you want me to show more to wake up your memory? I hope you were not trying
to make false charge against us.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Strawn" <dastrawn@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reviewing vendors (was: Honest Andrew wants to come clean?)
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dave Strawn" <dastrawn@mindspring.com>
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>
> Andrew,
>
> Please do not fabricate false emails from me. As Doug has pointed out, I
> paid him $9,000 for a 1st time overhauled engine. This is personal business
> between Doug and me and I don't understand why you would bring this up on
> the list.
>
> Dave Strawn
>
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrew Zheng \(China\)"
> <cjcyak@163bj.com>
> >
> > From: Dave Strawn
> > To: JN (Andrew)
> > Subject: David Strawn's CJ
> > Andrew, I just wrote a check to Doug Sapp for $12,500 for a Huosai
> engine.
> >
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--> Yak-List message posted by: F4cmac@aol.com
In a message dated 3/31/03 1:00:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
Please take my email address of your system. F4cmac@aol.com.
I am tired of having all these unrequested messages.
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| Subject: | Re: elevator ballance |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
Jay;
A little overbalance (ie; leading edge heavy) is probably acceptable. Some
specs. for other aircraft require that. Don't know for sure since we have no
specs. Have you completed the paint finish or just doped to silver?
Re your bearing problem: Take a flashlight and mirror and make sure that
other bearing is still intact. It takes very little force to liberate the
inner race and balls from the self-aligning bearings. The pins need to be
perfectly aligned - they will slide in with no force at all. Did you replace
the non-aligning bearing?
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
Subject: Yak-List: elevator ballance
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
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> I installed the Elevator and the balance has a positive bias in other
words I would have to drill the balance weight at the elevator tip or apply
more paint. Does anyone have any info on the tolerance for the balance? I
think it would be a good idea to weigh a control before removing the cover.
But when you are knee deep in alligators--- Jay
>
>
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You need to read and follow the same instructions with which you signed on!
go to http://www.matronics.com/subscription and follow the instructions.
This link is in your message and at the bottom of every message your
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Subject: Yak-List: Re: Unsubscribe
> --> Yak-List message posted by: F4cmac@aol.com
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> In a message dated 3/31/03 1:00:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
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> > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> Please take my email address of your system. F4cmac@aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator instalation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
When I overhauled my elevator I replaced all bearings with good quality self
aligning bearings and the only problem I had was to hold them all straight
when attaching elevators they went into bearings with no problems, It would
worry me if I had to force them in as this would leave residual stress also
my books show self aligning bearings in all positions I think this allows
things to move under flight loads and not bend bearing brackets which are
not all that large.
My elevator is very smooth to operate and has no slack or unwanted play. as
all my other controls new self aligning bearings in every one that had one
in the book.
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Elevator instalation
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
>
> We had a problem installing the elevator because a sealed non centering
bearing had previously been installed in the inboard position. The pivot pin
would go into the bearing half way and lock. One of the other fellows
noticed the bearing bracket was flexing with each push we inserted a
screwdriver in the elevator slot to back up the bracket with one person
holding the screwdriver at the top and one at the bottom. The three of us
pushed at the same time and the elevator seated. Hope this helps someone.
Jay
>
>
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| Subject: | Hose and Firesleeve |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Don Boardman <dboardm3@twcny.rr.com>
Hi All,
We are into the firewall forward of our M14-PF.
A couple of questions.
1) In the engine compartment it looks like we have the option of using
standard Aeroquip 303 or the stainless outer braid 601/AE701 hose. The
stainless runs about twice the cost. Opinions?
2) What gets firesleeved? I assume all fuel and primer lines. Do all the
oil and case venting lines get sleeved as well?
3) If a hose gets firesleeved what does the stainless covered hose buy you?
4) Do the Yaks use an Oil-Air Separator? A good idea to use one? Which to
purchase?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Don Boardman
& Partner, Randy Bowers
Super Moose #130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-prop, Aerocet 3500 amphibs, Rome, NY
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| Subject: | Re: National Geographic statement regarding Peter Arnett |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 4/1/2003 6:52:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nationalgeographic_communications303@nationalgeographic.com writes:
>
> National Geographic has received voluminous e-mail correspondence today
> regarding Peter Arnett, which will require some time to process. We
> appreciate your patience as we work our way through it. In the meantime, we
> did want to make sure you were aware of our decision to end Mr. Arnett's
> association with National Geographic. Here is the statement we released
> this morning.
>
> NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC STATEMENT REGARDING PETER ARNETT
>
> The National Geographic Society has terminated the services of Peter
> Arnett. The Society did not authorize or have any prior knowledge of
> Arnett's television interview with Iraqi television, and had we been
> consulted, would not have allowed it. His decision to grant an interview
> and express his personal views on state-controlled Iraqi television,
> especially during a time of war, was a serious error in judgement and
> wrong.
>
National Geographic
I am glad that you society has seen fit to remove Mr. Arnett. His interview
was insultingly dangerous to American troops and his obvious personal anti
American views were evident. As a result of you actions regarding Mr.
Arnett, I will continue to be a member of the National Geographic Society.
James E. Goolsby Jr.
Jim
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator instalation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
Thanks Lou you are right but the aircraft has been flying that way since
Selby certified it. I think that the alignment tolerance of the outer
bearing is allowing it to move freely. The binding was only at installation
because the inner race acted like a sprag and locked up. The aircraft flew
perfect with no trim difference even though there was a .125 inc miss
alignment at rib two and the trim tab I could not get the rib perfect. Jay
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Back from S&F. I had a good time, even though I got my ass chewed out by a
member. Our formations and our participation got one of the best compliments
of I have ever heard from an Airboss and up at Leeward, Mr. James himself
paid us due notice on our excellent formation. "The Big Head" Mike Filucci,
has ordered me to write up the happenings for the newsletters. I'll try but
its all running together now. I 'm tired of flying for a while and plan to
sleep with my wife tonight.
Jim
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator instalation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Lou,
With respect to the self-aligning bearings, if you were able to buy them
from a local bearing distributor, would you be kind enough to tell us what
distributor you purchased them from and what were the manufacturer and model
numbers of the cross referenced bearings? Thanks very much for sharing this
information with the group.
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Elevator instalation
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
>
> When I overhauled my elevator I replaced all bearings with good quality
self
> aligning bearings and the only problem I had was to hold them all straight
> when attaching elevators they went into bearings with no problems, It
would
> worry me if I had to force them in as this would leave residual stress
also
> my books show self aligning bearings in all positions I think this allows
> things to move under flight loads and not bend bearing brackets which are
> not all that large.
> My elevator is very smooth to operate and has no slack or unwanted play.
as
> all my other controls new self aligning bearings in every one that had one
> in the book.
>
> Lou
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Elevator instalation
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
> >
> > We had a problem installing the elevator because a sealed non centering
> bearing had previously been installed in the inboard position. The pivot
pin
> would go into the bearing half way and lock. One of the other fellows
> noticed the bearing bracket was flexing with each push we inserted a
> screwdriver in the elevator slot to back up the bracket with one person
> holding the screwdriver at the top and one at the bottom. The three of us
> pushed at the same time and the elevator seated. Hope this helps someone.
> Jay
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator instalation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
Dennis In Australia we went metric in 1966 so it is very easy to buy metric
or imperial bearings I just went to an SKF bearing outlet (I know the
manager well) and bought them across the counter, at the moment I cannot
rember the numbers but all the original bearing are standard sizes some I
got for around $7.00 au ($4.50 us?) the very small ones were dearer but I
dont think I paid more than $20.00 for a single bearing I can go and look at
my old invoices but all I needed was the od id and width, I could also get
them from other dealers but skf would have them on the shelf most of the
time, if you would like me look into it further for you I would be happy to
do so I could have some in my pocket when I get oskosh?
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Elevator instalation
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Lou,
> With respect to the self-aligning bearings, if you were able to buy them
> from a local bearing distributor, would you be kind enough to tell us what
> distributor you purchased them from and what were the manufacturer and
model
> numbers of the cross referenced bearings? Thanks very much for sharing
this
> information with the group.
> Dennis Savarese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Elevator instalation
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos"
<lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
> >
> > When I overhauled my elevator I replaced all bearings with good quality
> self
> > aligning bearings and the only problem I had was to hold them all
straight
> > when attaching elevators they went into bearings with no problems, It
> would
> > worry me if I had to force them in as this would leave residual stress
> also
> > my books show self aligning bearings in all positions I think this
allows
> > things to move under flight loads and not bend bearing brackets which
are
> > not all that large.
> > My elevator is very smooth to operate and has no slack or unwanted play.
> as
> > all my other controls new self aligning bearings in every one that had
one
> > in the book.
> >
> > Lou
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Elevator instalation
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
> > >
> > > We had a problem installing the elevator because a sealed non
centering
> > bearing had previously been installed in the inboard position. The pivot
> pin
> > would go into the bearing half way and lock. One of the other fellows
> > noticed the bearing bracket was flexing with each push we inserted a
> > screwdriver in the elevator slot to back up the bracket with one person
> > holding the screwdriver at the top and one at the bottom. The three of
us
> > pushed at the same time and the elevator seated. Hope this helps
someone.
> > Jay
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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