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5. 09:04 PM - Liberal democrats and the death of 58,000 Americans (Frank Haertlein)
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| Subject: | Re: Stainless steel 285 hp Exhaust |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike McCoy" <mike@aircraftsales.com>
Doug,
I need a few more parts:
qty 1 - extreme top left exhaust piece
qty 2 - landing light bulbs
qty 2 - tail light bulbs
qty 2 - left lower exhaust pieces (when they arrive) (must fit original
chinese system)
I need the top left exhaust piece right away, so please send what you have
2nd day air. I will still be in need of a deposit filter (the one I had was
physically broken), so please order one for me.
If you send me an e-bill for the parts that are in-stock, I'll get a check
in the mail to you right away.
Talk to you later,
Mike McCoy
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Absolutely brilliant, Mike. I think reprints should be scattered from a J-3
Cub over the entire Back Bay and Cambridge (The Peoples Republic thereof).
...Blitz
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| Subject: | Fwd: Fw: flying story..... |
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Subject: Fw: flying story.....
It seems that everyone is flying formation these day. This story came from
a
friend in Palm Springs. Does any of this sound familar?
RDR
> A great flying story from a pilot friend. Thought I'd pass it on.....
>
> Jaybird
>
>
> From StanO,
>
> My cellphone rang Thursday afternoon. It was my flying buddy (and member
of
> this list) Larry, and he told me that 'John Van' was gone. Well damn. John
> Van Landingham was an excellent CFI and the single reason that some 75 or
80
> local pilots in this sparsely settled region of the country are
> card-carrying pilots.
>
> John joined the US Army Air Corp a few months before the National Security
> Act of 1947 converted it to the USAF, and he went right over with the rest
> of his outfit. He was involved in the 1950s development of Air Traffic
> Control and the application and implementation of one of the first
practical
> radar scopes that could be installed in a tower with the controller. A
> founding member of several flying clubs at the different bases he was
> assigned to, John kept working on his ratings.
>
> He retired from the USAF after 30 years and either just before or just
after
> doing so, he became a CFI. He worked at the local hardware store and
taught
> an endless series of pilot candidates how to fly, how to navigate, and how
> to handle the radio. Most importantly, he understood the weather in this
> region, and taught us how to avoid becoming its victim. ("After a front
like
> yesterday... there's almost always going to be a place.... oh, 3000 to
5000
> feet up where there's some wind sheer. The wind will change at that
altitude
> about 30 degrees in just a few feet of climb. See that long, thin, funny
> lookin' cloud that isn't movin' like the ones above it? That windshear is
> right there.")
>
> When I knew him, John always had a cigarette in his hand. He never flew
with
> one (thankfully) but when on the ground he smoked like a fiend. In late
1999
> he was diagnosed with cancer. They did several surgeries, removing many
> lymph nodes from around his lungs and under his shoulder blades. And there
> was months of chemo. 6' - 4" John got down to about 140 pounds. John lost
> more than weight as ol' Doc Morton couldn't renew his medical. John still
> did a few BFRs with the pilot acting as PIC. Everytime I'd see him, he'd
> say, "If the next MRI is clear, I'm gonna get my medical back." He missed
> flying.
>
> His wife told me at the funeral home that his O2 bottle had run out on the
> drive to the Veteran's Hospital in Gainesville, FL, and she thought that
> this had precipitated the pneumonia that wound up taking his life. She
knew
> he wasn't going to make it when, in the last 30 days, he wouldn't even
pick
> up a Flying or AOPA Pilot when they came in the mail. John was 70 last
> December 28.
>
> Friday, my phone range again. The visitation was Friday night, the
funeral,
> Saturday at 2:00. But Larry (the A&P) and Lawrence (another pilot at
Cairo)
> had hatched a scheme. They wanted Larry & me (both John's students) to do
a
> fly-by over the cemetery during the interment. Sure! We'd already been
doing
> formation work for the Piper Flight into OSH. At the visitation, we ran
into
> Earl Stuckey, owner of a local construction company and another of John's
> students. He volunteered to make it a flight of three. Earl had to go, but
> the two Larry's and I piled into the 182 after leaving the visitation and
> did a test flight over the cemetery, and decided that between the
cellphone
> towers and other obstructions that 600 MSL was about the best altitude.
That
> was about 400 AGL.
>
> So, Saturday morning we met at 9AM and discussed how I'd be "lead" in my
> Cherokee140, and Earl and Larry would take their Cessna 182s and fly as my
> wingmen in a true echelon "Delta Formation". Somehow the scheme got
hatched
> for both 182's to do a climbing peel off at the end. We discussed how
Larry
> and I had flown at 95 KIAS to Panacea the previous weekend. How to Line up
> on the Lubber Line using my main and nose gear as hallmarks, and how to
> judge altitude by the wing skins ("kneel down here, Earl. See how you see
as
> much of the upper skin as the lower, and right here you have the main gear
> hiding the nose?") We discussed what the 140 looked like at 300 feet. Then
> we talked about joining up. One 182 would do left traffic and the other
> would do right traffic. They'd take off, the second rolling after the
> first's wheels left the ground. As the second plane turned crosswind, I'd
> roll out in my 140 and they'd swing an arc from the downwind legs to join
up
> behind me using the runway as "no-man's land". ("Earl," says Larry, "South
> man doesn't cross north of the runway and North man doesn't cross south."
> "Deal!") We agreed that given the geography and today's wind between the
> airport and the cemetery we'd depart on 12 and do only right hand turns.
The
> cemetery was 3 city blocks wide and about a mile north and south. John's
> plot was at the southwest quadrant and we'd do the peel-off using the blue
> tent as the line flying a south-to-north course. We also discussed how if
we
> were getting into a "cluster flock" that the wingman would kick rudder and
> slip.... to slow down, and to kick the nose AWAY from the other two
planes.
>
> So we did our first departure. I held the runway heading for many miles
> while Larry and Earl got comfortable with one another. We tried our first
> right hand turn having already discussed the fact that the inside man had
to
> slow down and the outside man had to speed up. "This ain't gonna work,
boys.
> I'm just a tad above 45 knots, so BOTH of you gotta pour on the coals."
We
> tried the second turn. We'd been flying at about 95 Knots and that put me
at
> about 2100 RPM. "Right Turn in 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 ...Banking" and I pushed
> her up to 2500 RPM. "And Level" as we came to a compass cardinal point and
I
> dropped back to 2100.
>
> "The thermals is gettin' up as the sun cooks this plowed farmland out
here,
> boys." said Earl, "Can we do this faster?" So I pushed it on up to 2300
RPM
> and settled down at 115 KIAS. "Hey! That's a lot more stable. Larry! Tuck
on
> up in here. Stan, hold yer course." I looked over each shoulder and there
> they were, pretty as you please, about 150 feet off the diagonal. We
turned
> another 90 degrees to pass over the airport at 1000 AGL where Larry the
A&P
> was on the handheld and watching for traffic and grading our performance.
> Larry (in the 182) was to call the break.
>
> "3 - 2 - 1 ....break!" From the ground, "Larry, you need to match where
> Earl is on Stan or you're gonna be hidden by the trees. Earl, you gotta
keep
> that back pressure in during the climb, 'cause it looks bad when you fall
> off like that."
>
> We agreed to swing around and do it again. Joining up took a while. They
> found each other first and called me in. At the bottom of my tach's yellow
> arc, I was about 40 knots faster and overflew them by 150 feet and
> descended, slowing only after I matched the altitude they told me they
were
> holding.
>
> After joining up, this circuit didn't take as long, as we flew a rectangle
> just big enough to align with the airport again. "Tighten it up, Larry,
give
> it some coals." We had agreed to work down to 600 feet on this one. At
that
> altitude, the runway was obscured by the trees. I warned Larry on the
ground
> that this run would be on the west side of all the hangars. "3 - 2 - 1
> ....break" "Pretty stuff, gennulmen, pretty." Earl said, "How 'bout
> we set down fer a Coke and I get some blood back in my left hand."
> Apparently he was holding a death grip on the yoke.
>
> It was 11:30. We fueled the planes and went up to try it again across the
> cemetery. Larry the A&P drove over to watch from the center of the
grounds.
> This time, the wingmen were so close, about 95 to 100 feet, that I could
> pick out the salt & pepper colors of Earl's beard, and I could see the
> purply color of Larry's PA1776 headphone cuffs. Sheez! If the AirVenture
> Flight could see THIS they wouldn't sweat our simple little run from West
> Bend! I was very careful of NOT changing the throttle (except in the
turns)
> and held altitude as best the thermals allowed.
>
> I knew from Friday that a right turn at the water tank would align me with
> the long straight road that bordered the graveyard. Even still, at 600
feet,
> I couldn't find the huge white roof of the furniture warehouse that was
the
> eastern neighbor of the cemetery. I had to turn them greater than 100
> degrees to come back to the cemetery. "That's OK, says Earl to my
flustered
> apology. Datz why they call this 'practice'." We went more or less up the
> centerline of the cemetery, Larry watching for the cellphone tower below
him
> on the left and Earl chiding Larry to "tuck in there". "3 - 2 - 1 hold
...
> hold.... hold... Break!" "Earl, you gotta hold in that back pressure,"
> said our 'coach' on the ground.
>
> We did one more circuit and it came together. "Purty, gennulmen, purty!
And
> that SOUND of those three engines! WOW!" We met back at the airport, and
> set down. My north run was really just a right-base east for 12, so I did
> that to get out of the way, Earl who was also flying east, did a mid field
> crossing for left downwind, while Larry had the longest trip back from his
> westward leg. We put the planes "on the ready" at the apron line, and
broke
> for lunch, agreeing to meet at 1:30 at the airport and attend the funeral
in
> the same car. The coffin was draped with the American flag.
>
> The plan was that Larry the A&P (who was one of the pall bearers) would
have
> the handheld with him and would "call us in". He had estimated 4 minutes,
> worst case, from calling us, to our appearance. We found out afterward
that
> he asked the minister how complex the interment service was and the
minister
> told him that Moody Air Force base had sent a detachment to do a
> flag-folding ceremony after the closing the prayer. If Larry called us at
> the closing "Amen" it should time out about right.
>
> So, the funeral was over. We had parked on the street and made our way
back
> to the airport from the church via the back roads, as the procession would
> be taking the main thoroughfare. We made on complete circuit, turning off
on
> the east side of the water tank so as to not pass over the cemetery. The
> guys were TIGHT on the tail of my little 140. But we were getting
> comfortable with one another. After one turn, Larry noticed Earl gun it to
> climb back to position and he said, "Hey Earl?! That thing got a HEMI?!!"
>
> Larry called us from the cemetery to come in. Game face on. Heart rate
> rising. This is *the* performance and I don't want to mess it up. I want
to
> honor John. Unknown to me, the wind shifted between the east run beside
the
> water tank, and this final run west of it. I couldn't find the silly white
> roof of the furniture warehouse from 600 MSL. "Hey, Stan?" says Larry,
> "Isn't the graveyard off to the left?" Nutz!!! It was! The wind had been
> carrying us through that turn from west to north, pushing us west. Now it
> was mostly a north wind and I was too far east and too close to get us
> on-track. "We'll just have to track there from here," I keyed and pointed
> the nose 15 degrees left to overfly the ceremony. "3 - 2 - 1
> .......BREAK!"
>
> I looked out the windows and each 182 presented its landing gear to me and
> climbed away. They looked identical. It was breath taking. "Pretty stuff,
> gentlemen." Larry said. Larry and Earl keyed and spoke a farewell
parting
> to John. I tried to, but couldn't speak. We sat down at the airport much
> like the last time.
>
> About 10 minutes later, Larry arrived. "MAN!! THAT WAS PERFECT!!! The
> shadows passed right over the people. They just had handed the flag to
Mrs.
> Van Landingham, and everybody was kinda catching their breath and then the
> sound of those engines boiled over the tree line. Everybody turned and
> looked up and then you guys did the break. Dang it, son!! There wasn't a
dry
> eye in the whole lot of 'em!"
>
> Yeah.... the flight to AirVenture is piece of cake.... now.
>
> Rest well, John. You've left a legacy of a hundred or more pilots as your
> life's work.
>
> -Stan Otts
> PA28-140
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Finally the computer is fixed here in our condo in Delaware. Still awaiting
the arrival of our #3 grandchild (due tomorrow) and I plan to take on a
flight simulator tomorrow.
What I need from you folks out there, is a sort of commitment. As you know
this year is the 100th anniversary of flight. Duh? Well, I believe we should
celebrate by showing off the war booty of our winning the Cold War and the
winning we're doing on this new war.
I have a couple of special formations in mind to fly in the OSH WB part of
the show. These formations need a minimum of 18 aircraft. I'd like to get a
good idea of how many of you will be there. The more the merrier.
Also I need to know if yawl want an acrobatic box again this year. I've been
asked to do the foot work of this responsibility (putting my neck out) and
I'd like to know if it will be used.
What pictures I've seen of the formations at S&F and the compliments we
received from the airboss and other significant folks in the know, we did
very very very well. Those of you who flew in them are dully allowed to
become round shouldered from patting yourselves on the back.
Jim Goolsby
P.S. If I've missed answering a lot of e-mail from some of you, please note
that I had 172 messages that piled up since leaving home. None of it Spam.
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| Subject: | Liberal democrats and the death of 58,000 Americans |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
The Democratic party has cost the US 58,000 lives...........
Somebody had President Kennedy killed, right?
President Lyndon Johnson used his new-found power to gear up the US
military industrial complex to prosecute the Vietnam war. The biggest
problem with Johnson was that he would not allow our troops to win. He
micro-managed the Vietnam war and held back our troops. He wouldn't
allow us to win the war out of a fear of the Chinese. His holding back
American troops and micro-managing the war caused the death of tens of
thousands of Americans.
Contrast that with Bush who gave our military a set of objectives and
then let them conduct the war as they saw fit. Our military doesn't
allow the needless loss of both military and civilian lives.....unlike
the democratic party's micro-managing Johnson administration did. Let me
say it again.......Lyndon Johnson held back our troops in Vietnam and
it cost us more than 50,000 lives and the disrespect of the world. We
are only now recovering from the damage the democrats have caused this
country.
Our military has re-written the book on warfare and that is a testament
to Bush allowing our military to do what it needs to do to win and save
lives.
Liberal democrats are the antithesis of freedom despite their attempts
to carry it's banner. The ills that have visited America in the last 50
years are a direct result of the failed democratic party world views and
the imposition of those views on the American people thru a liberal
biased media.
For example, what idiot would allow virtual unchecked immigration from
islamic countries?
As it is today, anyone who would suggest limiting immigration from
virtually any country in the world is labeled a xenophobe and destroyed
by the liberal, democratic news media. Countless politicians have been
destroyed the moment they dared to speak up against immigration by a
liberal media. Chalk it up as another example of the policies of the
democrats backed up by a liberal news media. The liberal news media in
America carries water for the democrats......plain and simple.
The 1994 elections were a "sea change" in America and marks the gradual
decline of the democratic party. I might add that this was, for the most
part, a result of Americas' disgust with the democrat's attempts to
eliminate the right to bear arms.
Don't forget, the liberal news media and the democratic party thinks it
knows better what is good for you than you do.
I take great consolation in the decline of ratings with liberal news
stations. Gives me new hope for America!
Frank Haertlein
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Jim;
Due to delays in painting, I won't be making Red Stars in my YAK-52. I
really regret that.
All indications are that I'll be able to make Oshkosh. Count me in.
I particularly prescribe to your following
characterization.................
"I believe we should celebrate by showing off the war booty of our
winning the Cold War and the winning we're doing on this new war".
Frank
N911OM
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| Subject: | Liberal democrats and the death of 58,000 Americans |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
Sorry for my last emailing.
I did a BCC and neglected to delete the YAK LIST.
Sometimes I hate this computer stuff!
Frank
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "dabear" <dabear@damned.org>
Jim,
My son will arrive the last week of June. I am very unsure of being
at MTW or Osh. However I will do my best.
Regards,
Al DeVere
----- Original Message -----
From: <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Yak-List: MTW-OSH
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> Finally the computer is fixed here in our condo in Delaware.
Still awaiting
> the arrival of our #3 grandchild (due tomorrow) and I plan to take
on a
> flight simulator tomorrow.
>
> What I need from you folks out there, is a sort of commitment. As
you know
> this year is the 100th anniversary of flight. Duh? Well, I
believe we should
> celebrate by showing off the war booty of our winning the Cold War
and the
> winning we're doing on this new war.
>
> I have a couple of special formations in mind to fly in the OSH WB
part of
> the show. These formations need a minimum of 18 aircraft. I'd
like to get a
> good idea of how many of you will be there. The more the merrier.
>
> Also I need to know if yawl want an acrobatic box again this year.
I've been
> asked to do the foot work of this responsibility (putting my neck
out) and
> I'd like to know if it will be used.
>
> What pictures I've seen of the formations at S&F and the
compliments we
> received from the airboss and other significant folks in the know,
we did
> very very very well. Those of you who flew in them are dully
allowed to
> become round shouldered from patting yourselves on the back.
>
> Jim Goolsby
>
> P.S. If I've missed answering a lot of e-mail from some of you,
please note
> that I had 172 messages that piled up since leaving home. None of
it Spam.
>
>
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