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1. 04:14 AM - Re: Oil (Brian Lloyd)
2. 04:23 AM - Re: Oil (Brian Lloyd)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Oil (Brian Lloyd)
4. 02:32 PM - Cool stuff (Barry Hancock)
5. 04:41 PM - Cool Stuff #2 (Barry Hancock)
6. 07:48 PM - test (Coffey, John)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ernie wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
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> I'd like to hear some pros and cons to using straight Aero Shell 120 in the
> Housai engines. I am currently using the Phillips 25W60. I dont think that I
> really need to use a multigrade here in Fl since our winters are so mild and
> our summers so hot. My neighbor switched from the Phillips to the 120 in his
> T6 and said his oil consumption went down dramatically.
The California Department of Forestry switched from Aeroshell 120 to Phillips
25W60 for their fleet of fire attack aircraft and saw a reduction in engine
failures and a reduction in oil consumption.
So what does this mean? It means that both oils will work just fine in your
engine. I prefer 25W60 because it flows better when cold and I get oil to all
of the bearings faster after start than I do with 120. This might not be an
issue if you have a preoiler.
OTOH, if you are not religious about changing your oil stick with 120. The
viscosity stabilizers that give 25W60 its 60-weight rating when hot start to
break down over time and you eventually end up with only 25W oil.
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Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
ron wasson wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
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> on 4/24/03 7:50 PM, Ernie at ernest.martinez@oracle.com wrote:
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>>Ernie
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> My CJ has 350 hours with aeroshell 120. It uses the same amount no
> matter the oil. No filter also means oil changes every 25 hours per the
> factory.
Are you sure about that? The Chinese periodic maintenance manual I have lists
oil change at 100 hour intervals but I seem to be missing the 25 hour interval
for the engine. (Does anyone have a copy of page 36 of the periodic maintenance
manual I could have?) I used a 50 hour interval for oil changes without any ill
effects.
> 17 quart oil changes add up. Multi is expensive and I believe only
> worth it in cold climates.
I found Phillips 25W60 to be only slightly more expensive than Aeroshell
straight weight. OTOH, Aeroshell's 15W50 is significantly more expensive.
> There is a small CA study that recommends multi
> in radials for reduced wear.
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> Ron
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Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
ron wasson wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
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> on 4/24/03 7:50 PM, Ernie at ernest.martinez@oracle.com wrote:
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>>Ernie
>
> My CJ has 350 hours with aeroshell 120. It uses the same amount no
> matter the oil. No filter also means oil changes every 25 hours per the
> factory.
Are you sure about that? The Chinese periodic maintenance manual I have lists
oil change at 100 hour intervals but I seem to be missing the 25 hour interval
for the engine. (Does anyone have a copy of page 36 of the periodic maintenance
manual I could have?) I used a 50 hour interval for oil changes without any ill
effects.
> 17 quart oil changes add up. Multi is expensive and I believe only
> worth it in cold climates.
I found Phillips 25W60 to be only slightly more expensive than Aeroshell
straight weight. OTOH, Aeroshell's 15W50 is significantly more expensive.
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Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Hi gang,
I've just gone through the list of registrations for Red Star....over 40
now! Thought you might want to know the diversity of aircraft that are
slated to be there...
Props:
Yak 9/11/18T/50/52/55
CJ6A
Interavia I-3
Me 108
Me 109
Su 26
Jets:
L-29
L-29 Super Delphin
L-39C
L-39ZA
MiG 17
MiG 21
....AND, we are making no promises, but there is an attempt being made
to have some current military hardware wearing the Red Star to show up.
It will be dependent on WX (weather), MX (maintenance) and availability,
but we might be in for a treat or two...
If you are planning to attend and still have not registered, please take
the time to do so know as final planning is underway and accurate head
counts are important...
http://www.allredstar.com/Current_ops_RS_register.asp
We should also probably remind people of the Red Star Formation
Challenge...your chance to show off your stick & rudder skills and see
how you stack up. If you're interested here's the event
description...should be a lot of fun!
http://www.allredstar.com/Current_ops_RS_Formation_Challenge.asp
If you'd like to participate, or have a team together, email me
directly.
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Just got off the phone with Eddie Andreini. Eddie is a long time
airshow pilot who flies both a Yak-9 and a Stearman. He is excited
about the event and renewing his Formation qualifications in "Barbarosa"
http://www.eddieandreiniairshows.com/images/yak3.jpg
Additionally, he is willing to give a talk on airshow flying during the
event...he is an ACE evaluator.
At this point, it looks like we have at least 3 Yak fighters that will
be there and flying on a regular basis. For some reason, I feel like a
5 year old at Disneyland....
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
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