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Tue 04/29/03


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 03:29 AM - survival kit supplies (Brian Lloyd)
     2. 04:07 AM - Re: survival kit supplies (Gus Fraser)
     3. 06:10 AM - valve adjustment hint (jay reiter)
     4. 06:15 AM - Re: Oil Hoses (Craig Payne)
     5. 07:37 AM - Re: Hello Lee tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.53 (Doug)
     6. 08:07 AM - Hose fittings (jay reiter)
     7. 08:44 AM - Re: Hose fittings (Doug)
     8. 09:05 AM - Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat (Drew Blahnick)
     9. 09:20 AM - M14 (joe h)
    10. 09:35 AM - Re: M14 (Brian Lloyd)
    11. 10:09 AM - Magnificant Yak52TW on the cover of TAP ... (scott.huff@aivia.aero)
    12. 10:52 AM - Re: M14 (A. Dennis Savarese)
    13. 10:57 AM - Re: Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat (EyeBLS@aol.com)
    14. 11:24 AM - CJ pipes (Mark Jefferies)
    15. 07:14 PM - Hose fittings solution (Jim Griffin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:29:59 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: survival kit supplies
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> I don't know if any of you fly with a survival kit in your airplane[s] but I just found a good source of emergency supplies. Yesterday afternoon I came home with about 20 parachute flares, eight smoke canisters, and three industrial strength first-aid kits ... for free, and effectively no limit to how many I can have. Oh, and they are NOT past their expiration dates! I went in to a company that deals in inflatable boats to talk about having my dinghy repaired and as I was leaving the guy asks me, "by the way, do you need any flares?" I was a bit confused but I said, sure and he takes me over to boxes and boxes of this stuff and tells me to take what I want. Seems that, in addition to selling and repairing inflatable boats they also service life rafts for the cruise ships. These rafts have to be serviced regularly (annually I think) and anything that will be out-of-date before the next service must be replaced. Since there is no way to dispose of this stuff they give it away to anyone who comes in and is willing to cart it off. OK, so my "new" flares will "expire" in less than a year but I can keep going back to get others that are still within their rated service life. And when you compare the cost of zero with $25 or $30 per new flare, that is a pretty good deal. At those prices I can afford to drive a mile to get more in six or eight months. So I suspect that any of you that live near major seaports can probably find the local company that services inflatables and I would be willing to be they have the same problem disposing of not-quite-expired equipment. This strikes me as a good way to populate your survival kit for almost nothing. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax


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    Time: 04:07:01 AM PST US
    From: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: survival kit supplies
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> Great idea Brian I am off to our local store today. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: survival kit supplies --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> I don't know if any of you fly with a survival kit in your airplane[s] but I just found a good source of emergency supplies. Yesterday afternoon I came home with about 20 parachute flares, eight smoke canisters, and three industrial strength first-aid kits ... for free, and effectively no limit to how many I can have. Oh, and they are NOT past their expiration dates! I went in to a company that deals in inflatable boats to talk about having my dinghy repaired and as I was leaving the guy asks me, "by the way, do you need any flares?" I was a bit confused but I said, sure and he takes me over to boxes and boxes of this stuff and tells me to take what I want. Seems that, in addition to selling and repairing inflatable boats they also service life rafts for the cruise ships. These rafts have to be serviced regularly (annually I think) and anything that will be out-of-date before the next service must be replaced. Since there is no way to dispose of this stuff they give it away to anyone who comes in and is willing to cart it off. OK, so my "new" flares will "expire" in less than a year but I can keep going back to get others that are still within their rated service life. And when you compare the cost of zero with $25 or $30 per new flare, that is a pretty good deal. At those prices I can afford to drive a mile to get more in six or eight months. So I suspect that any of you that live near major seaports can probably find the local company that services inflatables and I would be willing to be they have the same problem disposing of not-quite-expired equipment. This strikes me as a good way to populate your survival kit for almost nothing. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax


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    Time: 06:10:52 AM PST US
    From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
    Subject: valve adjustment hint
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net> The valves can be adjusted with out the tool but it is a pain. One hint if you rotate the engine to valve open position the lock nut rises out of the rocker cavity and can easily be broken loose with a box wrench. This method might be helpful with the tool also as an over tightened nut might be hard to brake with the shorter handle of the tool.


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    Time: 06:15:17 AM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil Hoses
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net> Jim, I used an industrial grade hose rated with higher temp, and flex than Type 303. It was from Gates and I got it from a local distributor. The chinese fittings on the cooler end fit fine and SAE on the other end to one of George Coy's Yak-52W fittings.(SAE to Metric). Craig Payne Jim Griffin wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net> > > Anybody ever replaced their oil hoses? Doug doesn't have replacement hoses to the cooler and mine are showing some fraying. Ideas appreciated. > Jim Griffin > CJ6-A 273SC ==================================================================


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    Time: 07:37:40 AM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: Hello Lee tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,
    USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.53 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> No, Ph number is the same, just kinda dyslectic I guess (think my dog is god). Always yakin, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hello Lee tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.53 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca> > > Hey Doug; > > Has your phone # changed? Your message shows 828 rather than 826. Boy us > Canucks sure have to look after you old folks down there. > Cheers; > Walt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > To: "Yak list" <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Hello Lee > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > > > > Lee Buchok, call me at 509-828-4610 your emails are coming back DOA. > > > > Doug Sapp > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:07:59 AM PST US
    From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Hose fittings
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net> When we were testing a flap control valve some time ago we found that the valve was taped for 1/8 inch NPT. Are there other places where NPT is used and can this be used as a commonality for conversion to common fittings?


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    Time: 08:44:51 AM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: Hose fittings
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> Jay, I carry all the CJ air hoses in stock. But to answer your question, yes there are many places where "pipe" type fittings could be used to convert the air system to AN style hardware, but I don't think you could convert it to 100% AN, so at best you would have a 60/40 mix and some of those might be only AN on only one end, which could be a real pain in the butt. Until these stock hoses become hard to get (like the oil hoses are), I see no benefit in going to the bother of converting the fittings and then building up the proper length hoses.---life is short, lets go flying! Ya, Ya, I know, all this from a guy who's mini yak has been down for nearly 2 years. This year guys, I promise. Always yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net> Subject: Yak-List: Hose fittings > --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net> > > When we were testing a flap control valve some time ago we found that the valve was taped for 1/8 inch NPT. Are there other places where NPT is used and can this be used as a commonality for conversion to common fittings? > >


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    Time: 09:05:24 AM PST US
    From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net> Folks, For all heading to All Red Star West this year and interested in Air Combat, the author of "Air Combat: Tactics and Maneuvering", the only real technical work on BFM and tactics, is attending this years event as a guest speaker and consultant on our three phased Air Combat program. Robert Shaw wrote the book over 8 years while serving as a USN Fighter Pilot, but we won't hold that against him ;) Thanks for letting me get the word out. Drew Drew Allen Blahnick All Red Stars Cell310-386-9181 www.allredstar.com "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"


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    Time: 09:20:32 AM PST US
    From: joe h <joeh@shaw.ca>
    Subject: M14
    --> Yak-List message posted by: joe h <joeh@shaw.ca> Does any one have a power chart for the M14? I plain language. Joe


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    Time: 09:35:37 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: M14
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> joe h wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: joe h <joeh@shaw.ca> > > Does any one have a power chart for the M14? I plain language. Let's see: handles more forward: go faster, take off. handles more backward: go slower, land. Numbers bigger: go faster, go up. Numbers smaller: go slower, go down. This is pretty plain but perhaps not the resolution you were looking for. Still, as a rule-of-thumb ... -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax


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    Time: 10:09:44 AM PST US
    From: scott.huff@aivia.aero
    Subject: Magnificant Yak52TW on the cover of TAP ...
    --> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero My trustworthy mailman delivered one of my favorite aviation publications today. On the cover of the 3rd April issue of Trade-a-Plane is a beautiful picture of a Yak52TW, N73KS, owned by Terry Slawinski of Alexandria, VA. Congrats to Terry and Phil Webb! If I look close enough, I can see a big grin behind that boom Mic! Profusely drooling, Scott Huff


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    Time: 10:52:49 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: M14
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> I'll use what's in the M14 manual and try to "translate" that into something that you may find helpful. Rating HP RPM Fuel consumption Blower Outlet Pressure (mmHg) Take- off 360HP 2900RPM (99%) 285-315 grams/HP/hour 125-15 (Surplus) Nominal 1 290HP 2400RPM (82%) 280-310 " 95 -15 (surplus) Nominal 2 240HP 2050RPM (70%) 265-300 " 75 -15 (surplus) Cruise 1 .75 of nom 2 1860RPM (64%) 210-230 " 735 +/- 15 (absolute) Cruise 2 .6 of Nom 2 1730RPM (59%) 215-235 " 670 +/- 15 (absolute) To convert grams per horsepower/hour, first convert grams to pounds/HP (1 gram .0022046 pounds) Thus 285 grams * .0022046 .628311 pounds * 360 226.2 pounds/hour / 6 pounds per gallon 37.7 Gallons per hour 315 " * " .694449 " * 360 250.0 " " 41.7 " The Blower outlet pressure (boost) is always confusing. What they mean by "surplus" is that pressure OVER standard atmospheric pressure, which at sea level (29.92" of Hg) is 760 mmHg. So add 125 mm (the max SURPLUS) to the 760 885 mmHG. The minus 15 would be 870 mmHg. Therefore the manifold pressure at max takeoff power or 2900 RPM will be between 885 and 870 mmHg as read on your manifold pressure gauge on a standard day at sea level. Converting 885 to 870 mmHg at sea level on a standard day (29.92" Hg) 34.95 inches to 34.35 inches of Hg. Thus the Blower (boost)increases the manifold pressure over standard atmospheric pressure at this power setting approximately 5 inches of Hg. Now lets look at Nominal II. Same thing applies as above, but the fuel consumption is 265 * .0022045 .5842 * 240HP 140.2 pounds/hour / 6 23.37 to 26.54 gallons per hour. The Blower boost is 760 +75 or 835 mmHg to 820 mmHg (-15). You can do the conversion to inches. In Cruise I is where you get your best speed and fuel economy. The ".75 of Nominal II (240 HP)" 180 HP at 64% RPM. Fuel consumption at this rating is 210 to 230 grams/hp/hour or 13.88 to 15.21 gallons per hour. That's with a manifold pressure setting of 735 +/- 15 absolute or 720-750 mmHg. So as an old WWII B17 Bomber pilot told me a long time ago, to get the best cruise speed with the best fuel economy, run the engine "oversquare" or make the engine turn the prop and not the prop turn the engine. ie: Lower rpm (in this case 64%) and higher manifold pressure (720 to 750 mmHg). Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world and nor is our own individual airplanes. There are many other factors which will affect power and fuel consumption. But as a baseline, this is as good as it gets. Hopefully I haven't bored everyone with this detailed explanation for Joe. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe h" <joeh@shaw.ca> Subject: Yak-List: M14 > --> Yak-List message posted by: joe h <joeh@shaw.ca> > > Does any one have a power chart for the M14? I plain language. > > Joe > >


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    Time: 10:57:00 AM PST US
    From: EyeBLS@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat
    --> Yak-List message posted by: EyeBLS@aol.com >> Robert Shaw wrote the book over 8 years while serving as a USN Fighter > Pilot > > And he has experience with CJs. I gave him a ride in mine four years ago. > > > Jim Shafer 360EB


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    Time: 11:24:30 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies" <mark@yakuk.com>
    Subject: CJ pipes
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark@yakuk.com> Just send us the fittings and you will get virtually by return a full set of new pipes, pressure tested and released. cost 55$ per pipe per set. Pete Houghton bought a set from us. (Seattle area) mark j --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net> Anybody ever replaced their oil hoses? Doug doesn't have replacement hoses to the cooler and mine are showing some fraying. Ideas appreciated. Jim Griffin CJ6-A 273SC


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    Time: 07:14:56 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
    Subject: Hose fittings solution
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net> At Mr. Bennett's suggestion, I called Jim Selby about the oil cooler hoses. He has used Parker 221FR hoses that are the same size. He says that Mandrills are not available to fit the hose but the oil cooler hoses are all female fittings and the male end of the fitting can be used for that purpose. He states that the Parker hose is superior to the original Chinese hose. He also stated that the same technique can be used on the fuel lines. By the way Jim, I don't have any connectors in my oil cooler hoses, they are single hoses but it has had a complete restoration in 1997. Thanks for the help everybody. Jim G CJ6-A N273SC




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