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1. 03:29 AM - survival kit supplies (Brian Lloyd)
2. 04:07 AM - Re: survival kit supplies (Gus Fraser)
3. 06:10 AM - valve adjustment hint (jay reiter)
4. 06:15 AM - Re: Oil Hoses (Craig Payne)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: Hello Lee tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.53 (Doug)
6. 08:07 AM - Hose fittings (jay reiter)
7. 08:44 AM - Re: Hose fittings (Doug)
8. 09:05 AM - Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat (Drew Blahnick)
9. 09:20 AM - M14 (joe h)
10. 09:35 AM - Re: M14 (Brian Lloyd)
11. 10:09 AM - Magnificant Yak52TW on the cover of TAP ... (scott.huff@aivia.aero)
12. 10:52 AM - Re: M14 (A. Dennis Savarese)
13. 10:57 AM - Re: Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat (EyeBLS@aol.com)
14. 11:24 AM - CJ pipes (Mark Jefferies)
15. 07:14 PM - Hose fittings solution (Jim Griffin)
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Subject: | survival kit supplies |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
I don't know if any of you fly with a survival kit in your airplane[s] but I
just found a good source of emergency supplies. Yesterday afternoon I came home
with about 20 parachute flares, eight smoke canisters, and three industrial
strength first-aid kits ... for free, and effectively no limit to how many I can
have. Oh, and they are NOT past their expiration dates!
I went in to a company that deals in inflatable boats to talk about having my
dinghy repaired and as I was leaving the guy asks me, "by the way, do you need
any flares?" I was a bit confused but I said, sure and he takes me over to boxes
and boxes of this stuff and tells me to take what I want. Seems that, in
addition to selling and repairing inflatable boats they also service life rafts
for the cruise ships. These rafts have to be serviced regularly (annually I
think) and anything that will be out-of-date before the next service must be
replaced. Since there is no way to dispose of this stuff they give it away to
anyone who comes in and is willing to cart it off. OK, so my "new" flares will
"expire" in less than a year but I can keep going back to get others that are
still within their rated service life. And when you compare the cost of zero
with $25 or $30 per new flare, that is a pretty good deal. At those prices I
can afford to drive a mile to get more in six or eight months.
So I suspect that any of you that live near major seaports can probably find the
local company that services inflatables and I would be willing to be they have
the same problem disposing of not-quite-expired equipment. This strikes me as
a
good way to populate your survival kit for almost nothing.
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Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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Subject: | survival kit supplies |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Great idea Brian I am off to our local store today.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Yak-List: survival kit supplies
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
I don't know if any of you fly with a survival kit in your airplane[s] but I
just found a good source of emergency supplies. Yesterday afternoon I came
home
with about 20 parachute flares, eight smoke canisters, and three industrial
strength first-aid kits ... for free, and effectively no limit to how many I
can
have. Oh, and they are NOT past their expiration dates!
I went in to a company that deals in inflatable boats to talk about having
my
dinghy repaired and as I was leaving the guy asks me, "by the way, do you
need
any flares?" I was a bit confused but I said, sure and he takes me over to
boxes
and boxes of this stuff and tells me to take what I want. Seems that, in
addition to selling and repairing inflatable boats they also service life
rafts
for the cruise ships. These rafts have to be serviced regularly (annually I
think) and anything that will be out-of-date before the next service must be
replaced. Since there is no way to dispose of this stuff they give it away
to
anyone who comes in and is willing to cart it off. OK, so my "new" flares
will
"expire" in less than a year but I can keep going back to get others that
are
still within their rated service life. And when you compare the cost of
zero
with $25 or $30 per new flare, that is a pretty good deal. At those prices
I
can afford to drive a mile to get more in six or eight months.
So I suspect that any of you that live near major seaports can probably find
the
local company that services inflatables and I would be willing to be they
have
the same problem disposing of not-quite-expired equipment. This strikes me
as a
good way to populate your survival kit for almost nothing.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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Subject: | valve adjustment hint |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
The valves can be adjusted with out the tool but it is a pain. One hint if you
rotate the engine to valve open position the lock nut rises out of the rocker
cavity and can easily be broken loose with a box wrench. This method might be
helpful with the tool also as an over tightened nut might be hard to brake with
the shorter handle of the tool.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Jim,
I used an industrial grade hose rated with higher temp, and flex than
Type 303. It was from Gates and I got it from a local distributor. The
chinese fittings on the cooler end fit fine and SAE on the other end to
one of George Coy's Yak-52W fittings.(SAE to Metric).
Craig Payne
Jim Griffin wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
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> Anybody ever replaced their oil hoses? Doug doesn't have replacement hoses to
the cooler and mine are showing some fraying. Ideas appreciated.
> Jim Griffin
> CJ6-A 273SC
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Subject: | Re: Hello Lee tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, |
USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.53
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
No, Ph number is the same, just kinda dyslectic I guess (think my dog is
god).
Always yakin,
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hello Lee
tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, USER_IN_WHITELIST
version=2.53
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
>
> Hey Doug;
>
> Has your phone # changed? Your message shows 828 rather than 826. Boy us
> Canucks sure have to look after you old folks down there.
> Cheers;
> Walt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> To: "Yak list" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Hello Lee
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> > Lee Buchok, call me at 509-828-4610 your emails are coming back DOA.
> >
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
When we were testing a flap control valve some time ago we found that the valve
was taped for 1/8 inch NPT. Are there other places where NPT is used and can
this be used as a commonality for conversion to common fittings?
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Subject: | Re: Hose fittings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Jay,
I carry all the CJ air hoses in stock. But to answer your question, yes
there are many places where "pipe" type fittings could be used to convert
the air system to AN style hardware, but I don't think you could convert it
to 100% AN, so at best you would have a 60/40 mix and some of those might be
only AN on only one end, which could be a real pain in the butt. Until
these stock hoses become hard to get (like the oil hoses are), I see no
benefit in going to the bother of converting the fittings and then building
up the proper length hoses.---life is short, lets go flying! Ya, Ya, I
know, all this from a guy who's mini yak has been down for nearly 2 years.
This year guys, I promise.
Always yakin,
Doug Sapp
----- Original Message -----
From: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Hose fittings
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
>
> When we were testing a flap control valve some time ago we found that the
valve was taped for 1/8 inch NPT. Are there other places where NPT is used
and can this be used as a commonality for conversion to common fittings?
>
>
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Subject: | Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
Folks,
For all heading to All Red Star West this year and interested in Air Combat, the
author of "Air Combat: Tactics and Maneuvering", the only real technical work
on BFM and tactics, is attending this years event as a guest speaker and consultant
on our three phased Air Combat program. Robert Shaw wrote the book over
8 years while serving as a USN Fighter Pilot, but we won't hold that against
him ;)
Thanks for letting me get the word out.
Drew
Drew Allen Blahnick
All Red Stars
Cell310-386-9181
www.allredstar.com
"Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: joe h <joeh@shaw.ca>
Does any one have a power chart for the M14? I plain language.
Joe
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
joe h wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: joe h <joeh@shaw.ca>
>
> Does any one have a power chart for the M14? I plain language.
Let's see:
handles more forward: go faster, take off.
handles more backward: go slower, land.
Numbers bigger: go faster, go up.
Numbers smaller: go slower, go down.
This is pretty plain but perhaps not the resolution you were looking for.
Still, as a rule-of-thumb ...
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Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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Subject: | Magnificant Yak52TW on the cover of TAP ... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero
My trustworthy mailman delivered one of my favorite aviation publications
today. On the cover of the 3rd April issue of Trade-a-Plane is a beautiful
picture of a Yak52TW, N73KS, owned by Terry Slawinski of Alexandria, VA.
Congrats to Terry and Phil Webb! If I look close enough, I can see a big grin
behind that boom Mic!
Profusely drooling,
Scott Huff
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
I'll use what's in the M14 manual and try to "translate" that into something that
you may find helpful.
Rating HP RPM Fuel consumption
Blower Outlet Pressure (mmHg)
Take- off 360HP 2900RPM (99%) 285-315 grams/HP/hour
125-15 (Surplus)
Nominal 1 290HP 2400RPM (82%) 280-310 "
95 -15 (surplus)
Nominal 2 240HP 2050RPM (70%) 265-300 "
75 -15 (surplus)
Cruise 1 .75 of nom 2 1860RPM (64%) 210-230 "
735 +/- 15 (absolute)
Cruise 2 .6 of Nom 2 1730RPM (59%) 215-235 "
670 +/- 15 (absolute)
To convert grams per horsepower/hour, first convert grams to pounds/HP (1 gram
.0022046 pounds)
Thus 285 grams * .0022046 .628311 pounds * 360 226.2 pounds/hour / 6 pounds per
gallon 37.7 Gallons per hour
315 " * " .694449 " * 360 250.0
" " 41.7
"
The Blower outlet pressure (boost) is always confusing. What they mean by "surplus"
is that pressure OVER standard atmospheric pressure, which at sea level
(29.92" of Hg) is 760 mmHg. So add 125 mm (the max SURPLUS) to the 760 885 mmHG.
The minus 15 would be 870 mmHg. Therefore the manifold pressure at max
takeoff power or 2900 RPM will be between 885 and 870 mmHg as read on your manifold
pressure gauge on a standard day at sea level.
Converting 885 to 870 mmHg at sea level on a standard day (29.92" Hg) 34.95 inches
to 34.35 inches of Hg. Thus the Blower (boost)increases the manifold pressure
over standard atmospheric pressure at this power setting approximately 5
inches of Hg.
Now lets look at Nominal II. Same thing applies as above, but the fuel consumption
is 265 * .0022045 .5842 * 240HP 140.2 pounds/hour / 6 23.37 to 26.54 gallons
per hour. The Blower boost is 760 +75 or 835 mmHg to 820 mmHg (-15).
You can do the conversion to inches.
In Cruise I is where you get your best speed and fuel economy. The ".75 of Nominal
II (240 HP)" 180 HP at 64% RPM. Fuel consumption at this rating is 210
to 230 grams/hp/hour or 13.88 to 15.21 gallons per hour. That's with a manifold
pressure setting of 735 +/- 15 absolute or 720-750 mmHg. So as an old WWII
B17 Bomber pilot told me a long time ago, to get the best cruise speed with
the best fuel economy, run the engine "oversquare" or make the engine turn the
prop and not the prop turn the engine. ie: Lower rpm (in this case 64%) and
higher manifold pressure (720 to 750 mmHg).
Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world and nor is our own individual airplanes.
There are many other factors which will affect power and fuel consumption.
But as a baseline, this is as good as it gets.
Hopefully I haven't bored everyone with this detailed explanation for Joe.
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "joe h" <joeh@shaw.ca>
Subject: Yak-List: M14
> --> Yak-List message posted by: joe h <joeh@shaw.ca>
>
> Does any one have a power chart for the M14? I plain language.
>
> Joe
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Red Star Guest Speaker: Air Combat |
--> Yak-List message posted by: EyeBLS@aol.com
>> Robert Shaw wrote the book over 8 years while serving as a USN Fighter
> Pilot
>
> And he has experience with CJs. I gave him a ride in mine four years ago.
>
>
> Jim Shafer 360EB
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark@yakuk.com>
Just send us the fittings and you will get virtually by return a full set of new
pipes, pressure tested and released.
cost 55$ per pipe per set.
Pete Houghton bought a set from us. (Seattle area)
mark j
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
Anybody ever replaced their oil hoses? Doug doesn't have replacement hoses to the
cooler and mine are showing some fraying. Ideas appreciated.
Jim Griffin
CJ6-A 273SC
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Subject: | Hose fittings solution |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
At Mr. Bennett's suggestion, I called Jim Selby about the oil cooler hoses. He
has used Parker 221FR hoses that are the same size. He says that Mandrills are
not available to fit the hose but the oil cooler hoses are all female fittings
and the male end of the fitting can be used for that purpose. He states that
the Parker hose is superior to the original Chinese hose.
He also stated that the same technique can be used on the fuel lines.
By the way Jim, I don't have any connectors in my oil cooler hoses, they are single
hoses but it has had a complete restoration in 1997. Thanks for the help
everybody.
Jim G
CJ6-A N273SC
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