---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/13/03: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:04 AM - Re: Informative advert. Hit DEL now!! (Gus Fraser) 2. 05:21 AM - Re: Shimmy dampener (Gus Fraser) 3. 05:56 AM - Re: Shimmy dampener (Genzlinger, Reade) 4. 10:14 AM - Shrek's helmet Tape job at ALL REDSTAR info requested (Mark Schrick) 5. 11:45 AM - MTW/OSH (MFilucci@aol.com) 6. 11:56 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 (Skipsly@aol.com) 7. 01:39 PM - mag problem (Ernie) 8. 01:43 PM - Mag problem (Ernie) 9. 02:37 PM - Red Star 2003 (ByronMFox@aol.com) 10. 02:56 PM - Re: mag problem (Brian Lloyd) 11. 03:08 PM - Re: Mag problem (Gus Fraser) 12. 03:55 PM - Re: mag problem (A. Dennis Savarese) 13. 04:06 PM - Re: Shimmy dampener (Lou Dakos) 14. 04:21 PM - Re: Shimmy dampener (Gus Fraser) 15. 04:41 PM - Re: Mag problem (Craig Payne) 16. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 (Doug) 17. 05:06 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 (Doug) 18. 05:43 PM - Re: Mag problem (Ernie) 19. 07:35 PM - Re: Re: Mag problem (D Zeman) 20. 08:02 PM - Re: Mag problem (Lou Dakos) 21. 09:31 PM - lost and found, Red Star AoA (Barry Hancock) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:35 AM PST US From: Gus Fraser Subject: RE: Yak-List: Informative advert. Hit DEL now!! --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser Mark, I, for one, have no problem with this I looked at your site and saw no pictures. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Jefferies Subject: Yak-List: Informative advert. Hit DEL now!! --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" Informative advert. Hit DEL now!! Against the code of conduct for this mailing list but I know of no other way to tell people quickly of this rare opportunity. 1.. I-3, complete with a new M-14P (1993) and a 2-blade prop. It is bare metal as the plane is unused and new. 2.. It has the standard Russian instruments in both cockpits incl. Radio/Intercom 3.. It is a two seater now, but it can be converted into the single seat version 4.. Asking price is 75.000,- EUR painted at Termikas. Oshkosh winners last year. 5.. It was test flown and then disassembled for transportation 6.. Price includes packing for sea voyage. best regards, mark J ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:50 AM PST US From: Gus Fraser Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser Common, someone out there must know how to do this... Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser Subject: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser Folks, How do I recharge my shimmy dampener (Yak 52) without the special tool ? I am sure that one of you bright folks will have figured this out. Gus ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:27 AM PST US From: "Genzlinger, Reade" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: "Genzlinger, Reade" Gus - there are two methods I'm aware of. 1) The hydraulic oil method and 2) The nitrogen method. I've used the nitrogen method for 6 years. In that time I have had to service my damper 3 times (1996 Yak-52, 550 hours TT). I modified the rubber tip of a blow gun, attached it my nitrogen regulator, set the output for ~300psi, inserted the tip of the blow gun into the valve on the damper and pulled the trigger. The stem indicator gauge popped out and it seems to like this for about 150 hours or so. This is not the prescribed service, but was suggested to me as perfectly adequate by one of our primary Yak vendors. Call me and we'll set a time for you to fly over and do the maintenance. Regards, Reade Genzlinger Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation 215.914.0370 215.790.6212 fax readeg@cairnwood.com -----Original Message----- From: Gus Fraser [mailto:fraseg@comcast.net] Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser Common, someone out there must know how to do this... Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser Subject: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser Folks, How do I recharge my shimmy dampener (Yak 52) without the special tool ? I am sure that one of you bright folks will have figured this out. Gus ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:54 AM PST US From: "Mark Schrick" Subject: Yak-List: Shrek's helmet Tape job at ALL REDSTAR info requested --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" I was asked by several people whom TAPED my black helmet and RED STAR. Paul Taylor was asked to tape the President of the USA helmet when he landed on the USS Abraham Lincoln several weeks ago. He does the best tape job in the world. It looks like it was painted on but now it is easily repairable. Several asked for the name and phone number. Here it is: Paul Taylor 207 South 3rd Ave #7 Arcadia, CA 91006 tmadmaxx@aol.com 626-574-0939 hm (626) 318-3787 cell Good luck plus he also sell helmets and other flight gear Mark (SHREK) Schrick YAK Driver, Inc Western USA Dealer for AEROSTAR (Yak 52TW/W) 966 Wallace Drive San Jose, CA 95120 (408) 323-5150 phone/fax (408) 391-6664 cell www.yakdriver.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:50 AM PST US From: MFilucci@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: MTW/OSH --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com Fellow Warbird Drivers, The demands of work will prevent Russ Dycus from attending MTW/OSH this year. We are looking for 2 volunteers to take on the task of Ground Boss and Air Boss. The Ground Boss handles all the admin stuff and does not have to be a pilot. The Air Boss doesn't have to be a pilot but does have to have a grasp of air ops/scheduling. Thanks, Mike ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:48 AM PST US From: Skipsly@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 --> Yak-List message posted by: Skipsly@aol.com In a message dated 05/09/2003 3:58:57 AM Atlantic Daylight Time, yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > Lousiana > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke > Does anyone have a good email for Don Andrews? I have a piece of his equipage he may want back... Skip Slyfield ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:33 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Yak-List: mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" To you magneto experts out there I have got one weird problem. When I set my mag switch to the # 1 position the engine quits, and when I switch from 1+2 to 2 there is no RPM drop, so 1st assumption is that the # 1 mag isnt working. So then I try the rear switch. First I flip the over ride switch to the up position(rear cockpit). Same thing happens. Flip the over ride switch back to front cockpit, and the rear mag switch still shuts down the engine! Switch the front mag switch and it still shuts down the engine. It seems that the rear over ride switch has no effect on which magneto switch is engaged, they are both engaged at all times! Which is not a good thing becuase regarless of the over ride switch a GIB could shut down the engine by flipping the mag switch. First question, which is the P Lead in the MAG itself, I want to remove it so I can ring out the wiring. Second question, this is not the normal behaviour is it????? Ernie ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:40 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Yak-List: Mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Well turns out I had a busted point spring in my MAG. I was sure I had broken something when I was installing a new radio, but it had nothing to do with me, it was just Murphy rearing his ugly head. I did get to find out that my mag overide switch does absolutely nothing though. Does anyone have the point timing specs off hand, I cant find my manual that tells me how many deg BTDC I'm supposed to set the break for. Ernie ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:57 PM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Red Star 2003 --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com Once again, Drew, Barry, Jim and Amy many many thanks for putting on a great event. Also, heartfelt thanks to the formation and ACM instructors who gave of their time and experience. Sunday evening, I took my wife, Mary, out for a Mother's Day dinner. I blathered on and on about the great time I had had, and proudly showed her my ACM machine gun round when we got home. "My God," she said, "it looks like a suppository!" Ya know, sometimes women just don't get it. ...Blitz Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Home 415-380-0907 Cell 415-307-2405 Fax 415-380-0917 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:24 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Ernie wrote: > It seems that the rear over ride switch has no effect on which magneto switch > is engaged, they are both engaged at all times! Which is not a good thing > becuase regarless of the over ride switch a GIB could shut down the engine by > flipping the mag switch. The toggle switch just disables the front mag switch. The rear mag switch is always enabled. This is because the rear seat is the instructor's seat and the instructor must have a way to control the mag selector just as the rear stick has the button that disables the brakes. Remember, in China this airplane is a trainer and the rear seat either has an instructor or is empty as the student solos. > First question, which is the P Lead in the MAG itself, I want to remove it so > I can ring out the wiring. > > Second question, this is not the normal behaviour is it????? Well, the behavior of the toggle switch is normal. The rest sounds a bit off. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:02 PM PST US From: Gus Fraser Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser Off the top of my head I think it is as follows.... Get cylinder 4 to TDC and back off about 40-50 deg then forward to 14.5-16 Deg BTDC The rotor should be aligned to the mark in the mag housing. It is definitely #4 and I am pretty sure about the deg setting too. But, as always on this list, I stand to be corrected. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie Subject: Yak-List: Mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Well turns out I had a busted point spring in my MAG. I was sure I had broken something when I was installing a new radio, but it had nothing to do with me, it was just Murphy rearing his ugly head. I did get to find out that my mag overide switch does absolutely nothing though. Does anyone have the point timing specs off hand, I cant find my manual that tells me how many deg BTDC I'm supposed to set the break for. Ernie ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:55:00 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" The mag switch in the 52 is wired exactly the same way. Rear mag switch overrides the front. The same for the toggle switch. That's why in the 52 (and I'm sure it's the same in the CJ) you have to have the mag switch in the rear cockpit in the 1+2 position to start the airplane. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: mag problem > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > Ernie wrote: > > It seems that the rear over ride switch has no effect on which magneto switch > > is engaged, they are both engaged at all times! Which is not a good thing > > becuase regarless of the over ride switch a GIB could shut down the engine by > > flipping the mag switch. > > The toggle switch just disables the front mag switch. The rear mag switch is > always enabled. This is because the rear seat is the instructor's seat and the > instructor must have a way to control the mag selector just as the rear stick > has the button that disables the brakes. Remember, in China this airplane is a > trainer and the rear seat either has an instructor or is empty as the student solos. > > > First question, which is the P Lead in the MAG itself, I want to remove it so > > I can ring out the wiring. > > > > Second question, this is not the normal behaviour is it????? > > Well, the behavior of the toggle switch is normal. The rest sounds a bit off. > > -- > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 > +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax > GMT-4 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:00 PM PST US From: "Lou Dakos" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" Gus I took one end off mine cleaned it up filled it up with oil and put end back on I done this over 2 years ago so I am not sure of my procedure this was on a CJ, is there any diference? Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > > Common, someone out there must know how to do this... > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > > Folks, > How do I recharge my shimmy dampener (Yak 52) without the special tool ? I > am sure that one of you bright folks will have figured this out. > > Gus > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:12 PM PST US From: Gus Fraser Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser I think that they are the same. My indicator has sunk all the way in :( I think that I will need to take it off and clean it as well, never hurts does it. Thanks Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lou Dakos Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" Gus I took one end off mine cleaned it up filled it up with oil and put end back on I done this over 2 years ago so I am not sure of my procedure this was on a CJ, is there any diference? Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > > Common, someone out there must know how to do this... > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Shimmy dampener > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > > Folks, > How do I recharge my shimmy dampener (Yak 52) without the special tool ? I > am sure that one of you bright folks will have figured this out. > > Gus > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:41 PM PST US From: Craig Payne Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne Eh, ah, nope! *Most* M14P mags are the M-9F fixed timing variety that does not provide auto advance. Hence the 14.5 to 16 degree at the prop which means about 23 degrees on the crank when spot on. The Chinese mags are auto advance, and must be set according to a table that varies with the degrees of advance stamped on the mag. Get that manual out Ernie. Craig Payne Gus Fraser wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > > Off the top of my head I think it is as follows.... > > Get cylinder 4 to TDC and back off about 40-50 deg then forward to 14.5-16 > Deg BTDC > > The rotor should be aligned to the mark in the mag housing. > > It is definitely #4 and I am pretty sure about the deg setting too. > > But, as always on this list, I stand to be corrected. > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Mag problem > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > Well turns out I had a busted point spring in my MAG. I was sure I had > broken something when I was installing a new radio, but it had nothing to do > with me, it was just Murphy rearing his ugly head. I did get to find out > that my mag overide switch does absolutely nothing though. > > Does anyone have the point timing specs off hand, I cant find my manual that > tells me how many deg BTDC I'm supposed to set the break for. > > Ernie ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:35 PM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" Skip try: Don Andrews E-mail Address(es): dandmflyaz@aol.com Always Yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 > --> Yak-List message posted by: Skipsly@aol.com > > In a message dated 05/09/2003 3:58:57 AM Atlantic Daylight Time, > yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > > > Lousiana > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke > > > > Does anyone have a good email for Don Andrews? I have a piece of his equipage > he may want back... > > Skip Slyfield > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:41 PM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" Skip try: Don Andrews E-mail Address(es): dandmflyaz@aol.com Always Yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/08/03 > --> Yak-List message posted by: Skipsly@aol.com > > In a message dated 05/09/2003 3:58:57 AM Atlantic Daylight Time, > yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > > > Lousiana > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke > > > > Does anyone have a good email for Don Andrews? I have a piece of his equipage > he may want back... > > Skip Slyfield > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:57 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" The rear switch DOESNT remove the front mag from operation, not matter what position the overide switch is in I can still shut down the engine from the front seat. I guess its not a big deal. I only had to replace the breaker point, which entailed removing the rotor. I lined up the post with the white insulation with the score mark on the mag housing. then I removed the rotor and pulled the point and put in a new one. Didnt have to worry about re-adjusting the gap since the breaker plate didnt need to be removed. Thanks for the info. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag problem > --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne > > Eh, ah, nope! *Most* M14P mags are the M-9F fixed timing variety that > does not provide auto advance. Hence the 14.5 to 16 degree at the prop > which means about 23 degrees on the crank when spot on. > > The Chinese mags are auto advance, and must be set according to a table > that varies with the degrees of advance stamped on the mag. > > Get that manual out Ernie. > > Craig Payne > > Gus Fraser wrote: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > > > > Off the top of my head I think it is as follows.... > > > > Get cylinder 4 to TDC and back off about 40-50 deg then forward to 14.5-16 > > Deg BTDC > > > > The rotor should be aligned to the mark in the mag housing. > > > > It is definitely #4 and I am pretty sure about the deg setting too. > > > > But, as always on this list, I stand to be corrected. > > > > Gus > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Yak-List: Mag problem > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > > > Well turns out I had a busted point spring in my MAG. I was sure I had > > broken something when I was installing a new radio, but it had nothing to do > > with me, it was just Murphy rearing his ugly head. I did get to find out > > that my mag overide switch does absolutely nothing though. > > > > Does anyone have the point timing specs off hand, I cant find my manual that > > tells me how many deg BTDC I'm supposed to set the break for. > > > > Ernie > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:02 PM PST US From: D Zeman Subject: Yak-List: Re: Re: Mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman On the Yak-52... (I'm betting the same on the CJ) The front and rear mag switches are in series - takes both positioned to "1+2" to get her running right, but either switched off will shut her down. Cheers, D. Zeman __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:45 PM PST US From: "Lou Dakos" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag problem --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" Ernie In my Cj the overide switch will remove the front mag switch from the equation (as per circuit diagram) I went to shutdown my engine 2 days ago and my instructor who was in back flipped switch and when I turned front mags off engine kept running as it should otherwise there is no point to the switch. Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag problem > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > The rear switch DOESNT remove the front mag from operation, not matter what > position the overide switch is in I can still shut down the engine from the > front seat. I guess its not a big deal. > > I only had to replace the breaker point, which entailed removing the rotor. > I lined up the post with the white insulation with the score mark on the mag > housing. then I removed the rotor and pulled the point and put in a new one. > Didnt have to worry about re-adjusting the gap since the breaker plate didnt > need to be removed. > > Thanks for the info. > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Payne" > To: > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag problem > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne > > > > Eh, ah, nope! *Most* M14P mags are the M-9F fixed timing variety that > > does not provide auto advance. Hence the 14.5 to 16 degree at the prop > > which means about 23 degrees on the crank when spot on. > > > > The Chinese mags are auto advance, and must be set according to a table > > that varies with the degrees of advance stamped on the mag. > > > > Get that manual out Ernie. > > > > Craig Payne > > > > Gus Fraser wrote: > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser > > > > > > Off the top of my head I think it is as follows.... > > > > > > Get cylinder 4 to TDC and back off about 40-50 deg then forward to > 14.5-16 > > > Deg BTDC > > > > > > The rotor should be aligned to the mark in the mag housing. > > > > > > It is definitely #4 and I am pretty sure about the deg setting too. > > > > > > But, as always on this list, I stand to be corrected. > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Yak-List: Mag problem > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > > > > > Well turns out I had a busted point spring in my MAG. I was sure I had > > > broken something when I was installing a new radio, but it had nothing > to do > > > with me, it was just Murphy rearing his ugly head. I did get to find out > > > that my mag overide switch does absolutely nothing though. > > > > > > Does anyone have the point timing specs off hand, I cant find my manual > that > > > tells me how many deg BTDC I'm supposed to set the break for. > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:52 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: lost and found, Red Star AoA From: Barry Hancock --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock Anyone missing a fuel cap? The FBO at Castle has a fuel cap in good condition, but no one has claimed it. Please call Gemini directly 209-725-1455. Also they have a grey HGU-55 helmet that someone apparently left behind. A brief summary of Red Star West 2003: According to any information we can find, this year's Red Star West was the largest gathering of such aircraft ever. Here is the breakdown of the over 70 aircraft that attended. Yak 52=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A017 Yak 50=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2 Yak 18T=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01 Yak 18=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 Yak 11=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A03=A0 CJ6=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 21 L-29=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 3 L-39=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 4 IAR-823=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A03 Yak 55M=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2 SU-26=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 E-3=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02 Total=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A060=A0 =A0 Others on line: F-5E=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 ME-109=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 Mig-17=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01 T-33=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 T-6=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A03=A0 Strike master=A0=A0=A0=A01 Albatross=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 B-17/B-24=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2 =A0 =A0 Total=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A011=A0 =A0 Grand total=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A071=A0=A0 aircraft This does not include the various spam cans that flew in over the weekend to check things out. Other than a horrendous T-storm that came out of nowhere on Thursday, the weather was great and the flying and comraderie even better. Friday saw the arrival of several jet trainers, and an enjoyable arrival by Cary Venden in a USMC F-5E. Cary is a part of the ACM training staff and will be around for a long time if we have our way. Also attending the event was Robert L. Shaw, author of THE book on Air Combat. Saturday included a missing man formation over the banquet to honor our fallen heros. Sunday saw a formation photo shoot that included an L-29, 2 L-39's, one Yak-11, 2 Yak-52's, 2 Yak-50's, and a CJ. A full write up on the event is forthcoming on the web site. There are dozens of wonderful photos as well. Also, the next evolution of the community is at hand. The Red Star Aircraft Owners Association, or Red Star AoA is a concept that is designed to promote Unity, Teamwork, and Safety for all Red Star owners. This association will work in concert with the Yak Pilots Associaton to promote all things Red Star and has the blessings of the powers that be in the YPA. More details to follow.... Thanks to everyone for a great event and we look forward to a bright future... Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Red Stars, Inc. 949.300.5510=09 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"