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1. 06:13 AM - Re: Yak stories (Rick Basiliere)
2. 06:31 AM - Re: In the barn (Rick Basiliere)
3. 09:09 AM - Castle Hazards (KingCJ6@aol.com)
4. 09:14 AM - Re: Castle Hazards (Walt Fricke)
5. 09:19 AM - WB magazine..... (Janet Davidson)
6. 02:40 PM - M-14P has slight leak at front propshaft seal (Coffey, John)
7. 04:09 PM - Re: M-14P has slight leak at front propshaft seal (Craig Payne)
8. 04:59 PM - Re: M-14P has slight leak at front propshaft seal (Coffey, John)
9. 06:41 PM - Re: WB magazine..... (Frank Haertlein)
10. 06:54 PM - Re: Yak stories (Frank Haertlein)
11. 07:04 PM - Re: In the barn (I-3 Interavia) Great dog fighter !!!!!! (Mark Schrick)
12. 08:25 PM - Rare Photo....(at least it's flying related) (Frank Haertlein)
13. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: In the barn (I-3 Interavia) Great dog fighter !!!!!! (William Halverson)
14. 09:09 PM - Re: Rare Photo....(at least it's flying related) (Walt Lannon)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
Aileron roll to the left, BTW. Right? err, correct? Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: Yak stories
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
Here is a link to a web-site with stories and pictures of recent YAK
adventures.
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/1yakpage/my_yak-52_pics.html
If anyone can guess how the inverted picture was taken I'll give them a
free flight in N9110M... Hehehehe :)
Frank
N9110M
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
Barry, Congratulations!! Might I add: Sorry- that I missed you in CO.
Welcome- to the world of "0" dihedral, "0" angle of incidence, and a fully
symmetrical wing. There should be some great kind of foam or something to
put under out butts for the x-c's. Just got back to CO from Denison, TX
contest, I empathize totally, only 8.5 round trip and one day each way for
me though.
If and when you get to the DEN area I'll bring to reality that image of a
Decathlon, N15WJ awaits. 12,500' density alt is not uncommon diving into
the aerobatic box here. Again congrats and I envy your reunion. Rick B
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Subject: Yak-List: In the barn
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Well, my first airplane has now come and gone. I'm safely back from
Colorado where I dropped off the Gherkin and picked up the I-3. The
journey took two days longer than planned because of weather, but all in
all it was a good trip.
I'll write up a full account at a later date, but I'll summarize my
thoughts here:
-funny how grown men get attached to metal flying machines. It was a
difficult moment to say goodbye to the old gal. I learned most of what
I know about flying at her controls. It was not easy to walk away
after 3 years, over 400 hours, and taking her from plain Jane to
Homecoming Queen.
-The I-3 is an *animal* of an airplane. I look forward to being a good
enough stick to utilizing all of its performance. Being airborne in 300
feet is exciting...
-I'm so used to taxiing the CJ it was fun to watch someone else learn
that it's not as easy as it looks.
-Cross country in a short wing aerobatic plane sucks. 130 knots and 1.5
hour legs are bad enough, but add feeling EVERY stinkin' bump the entire
way and it's not something I want to ever do much of.
-Cross country in a light airplane is cool...you see places and meet
people you'd never dream of before you left on that trip.
-It's amazing what 7700' MSL and 90 degrees does to airplane
performance. The I-3 felt like a Decathlon...I can only imagine what a
Decathlon would feel like there.
-Phoenix in the summer is hot. Phoenix in the summer inside a clear
bubble canopy and very little ventilation...who needs a sauna?
-Flying for 5 days straight, cross country and alone, is about my limit.
-Flying is fun, but there's nothing that comes close to the feeling of
seeing the excitement on your 5 month old's face when he sees you for
the first time in 5 days...except maybe when he falls asleep in your
arms a few hours later.
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Director of Operations
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: KingCJ6@aol.com
For all Red Star attendees, a good reason to break before or after the
prison!
Dave
############
June 2, 2003
Politics and Policy
U.S. Air Force Investigates
Radiological Waste Burial
By PETER WALDMAN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
The U.S. Air Force is investigating whether radioactive waste is buried at
more than 80 former and current air bases across the country, including the site
of a new federal prison in central California.
Air Force health experts believe the radioactive material, generated by
nuclear-weapons maintenance in the 1950s and 1960s, poses "no immediate public
health risk as long as these burial sites are not disturbed," according to the
Air
Force's written responses to questions posed by The Wall Street Journal. It
is far from certain, however, that the sites are undisturbed: Many of the
former bases were decommissioned and cleared for public use years ago.
For example, the $100 million, maximum-security penitentiary in Atwater,
Calif., east of San Francisco, occupies the former Castle Air Force Base, once
part of the Cold War-era Strategic Air Command. The recently built prison is on
a
part of the base near where munitions were kept -- and where investigators
from the Air Force Safety Center suspect nuclear weapons were maintained and
stored.
The radiation investigation is one of several lingering environmental sores
afflicting the Pentagon as it unloads dozens of military bases around the
country. Since the radiological sites haven't been monitored in years, military
officials aren't certain where such waste is buried and whether the dumping areas
pose a danger. The matter has gained new urgency as the Air Force seeks to
have more bases converted into parks, schools and other uses, potentially
exposing more civilians to risk.
Burial of radiological waste in shallow trenches or sealed pipes was the
"prescribed" disposal method in the 1950s and '60s, the Air Force says. It was
assumed low levels of radioactivity wouldn't penetrate the soil cover. The buried
materials included wipes, gloves, protective clothing and tape used to clean
and maintain so-called unsealed nuclear weapons -- early devices in which the
nuclear material was kept separate from the trigger. The Air Force says it
lost track of the burial sites because of poor record keeping and is trying to
identify and inspect the lands for safety concerns.
The Air Force says its real-estate managers learned about the buried waste a
few years ago. But an internal Air Force survey from 1972, reviewed by The
Wall Street Journal, indicates many of the radioactive dumps were well documented
at least three decades ago. The report, entitled "Burial of Radioactive Waste
in the USAF," named 46 bases where the service knew radioactive waste was
buried, including Carswell in Fort Worth, Texas, and others on the list of 80
bases the Air Force may investigate. In most cases, the report recommended
digging up the waste for proper disposal by licensed contractors. The report also
recommended amending Air Force procedures on such sites, "to prevent their
return to civilian control without some consideration of the radioactive
contamination."
Last week, the Air Force told federal, state and local officials in
California it will dispatch technical teams to the Castle site next week to brief
officials there about possible radioactive waste. Teams also will re-evaluate
buildings, at Castle and elsewhere, to be sure they still are suitable for public
use, according to an Air Force fact sheet distributed in some local
communities. Atwater and Merced County officials said no prison inmates are housed
in
former base buildings, although the prison uses some old Castle facilities for
storage and maintenance.
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| Subject: | Re: Castle Hazards |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
Now I know what was meant by "a bunch of HOT pilots"!
KingCJ6@aol.com wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: KingCJ6@aol.com
For all Red Star attendees, a good reason to break before or after the
prison!
Dave
############
June 2, 2003
Politics and Policy
U.S. Air Force Investigates
Radiological Waste Burial
By PETER WALDMAN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
The U.S. Air Force is investigating whether radioactive waste is buried at
more than 80 former and current air bases across the country, including the site
of a new federal prison in central California.
Air Force health experts believe the radioactive material, generated by
nuclear-weapons maintenance in the 1950s and 1960s, poses "no immediate public
health risk as long as these burial sites are not disturbed," according to the
Air
Force's written responses to questions posed by The Wall Street Journal. It
is far from certain, however, that the sites are undisturbed: Many of the
former bases were decommissioned and cleared for public use years ago.
For example, the $100 million, maximum-security penitentiary in Atwater,
Calif., east of San Francisco, occupies the former Castle Air Force Base, once
part of the Cold War-era Strategic Air Command. The recently built prison is on
a
part of the base near where munitions were kept -- and where investigators
from the Air Force Safety Center suspect nuclear weapons were maintained and
stored.
The radiation investigation is one of several lingering environmental sores
afflicting the Pentagon as it unloads dozens of military bases around the
country. Since the radiological sites haven't been monitored in years, military
officials aren't certain where such waste is buried and whether the dumping areas
pose a danger. The matter has gained new urgency as the Air Force seeks to
have more bases converted into parks, schools and other uses, potentially
exposing more civilians to risk.
Burial of radiological waste in shallow trenches or sealed pipes was the
"prescribed" disposal method in the 1950s and '60s, the Air Force says. It was
assumed low levels of radioactivity wouldn't penetrate the soil cover. The buried
materials included wipes, gloves, protective clothing and tape used to clean
and maintain so-called unsealed nuclear weapons -- early devices in which the
nuclear material was kept separate from the trigger. The Air Force says it
lost track of the burial sites because of poor record keeping and is trying to
identify and inspect the lands for safety concerns.
The Air Force says its real-estate managers learned about the buried waste a
few years ago. But an internal Air Force survey from 1972, reviewed by The
Wall Street Journal, indicates many of the radioactive dumps were well documented
at least three decades ago. The report, entitled "Burial of Radioactive Waste
in the USAF," named 46 bases where the service knew radioactive waste was
buried, including Carswell in Fort Worth, Texas, and others on the list of 80
bases the Air Force may investigate. In most cases, the report recommended
digging up the waste for proper disposal by licensed contractors. The report also
recommended amending Air Force procedures on such sites, "to prevent their
return to civilian control without some consideration of the radioactive
contamination."
Last week, the Air Force told federal, state and local officials in
California it will dispatch technical teams to the Castle site next week to brief
officials there about possible radioactive waste. Teams also will re-evaluate
buildings, at Castle and elsewhere, to be sure they still are suitable for public
use, according to an Air Force fact sheet distributed in some local
communities. Atwater and Merced County officials said no prison inmates are housed
in
former base buildings, although the prison uses some old Castle facilities for
storage and maintenance.
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| Subject: | WB magazine..... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
I guess mine may be the first of one or two comments?
Scott (Spangler)
Jonah Sielaff (Weeks mechanic) has just pointed out a picture in this
month's WB magazine, which I have no doubt that you will have a ton of
emails about.....
Page 21 shows a picture of a Nanchang CJ-6A (like mine, but an awful lot
smarter!), which is described as a Yak 52! Sacrilege! Its like calling a
Bonanza a Cherokee - both have low wings, both have similar seating and
tricycle gear... But in the case of the Nanchang and Yak, they are
manufactured by different companies and in different countries...
I'll stop there, I'm sure you'll get plenty of this kind of email,
Regards
Janet
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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| Subject: | M-14P has slight leak at front propshaft seal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
Yak-Meisters,
After my last flight of the day in my Yak-55m yesterday, I noticed a bit of oil
on the gills that had apparently leaked from the prop shaft seal at the front
of my M14P gearcase.
I had been doing a few tumbles during the last flight and noticed the oil leakage
during a walkaround after the flight. Looked like a tablespoon full dripped
on the front of the gills immediately below the propshaft where it exits the
gear case. The prop shaft had a very light coat of oil (it's usually dry). It
wasn't much oil, BUT it's a new leak.
Questions:
How urgent should I consider the repair of this leak?
What's involved in replacing the front prop shaft seal on an M14P? (are there any
serious hidden gotchas, or is it fairly straighforward?)
Cheers,
John Coffey
Yak-55m Lover
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| Subject: | Re: M-14P has slight leak at front propshaft seal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Whoa Pardner... a tablespoon's worth? That's not uncommon for mid-time
engines flown in aerobatics regularly. There is also another source of
oil leaks nearby:
A loose prop oil shaft due to an aging gasket at the rear that is
compressed, or prop dome seals that have lost their "spring". Getting
the nose case off is no big deal but getting all the other "stuff"
attached to it is. Why not check the easy stuff first?
Craig Payne
Coffey, John wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
>
> Yak-Meisters,
> After my last flight of the day in my Yak-55m yesterday, I noticed a bit of oil
on the gills that had apparently leaked from the prop shaft seal at the front
of my M14P gearcase.
>
> I had been doing a few tumbles during the last flight and noticed the oil leakage
during a walkaround after the flight. Looked like a tablespoon full dripped
on the front of the gills immediately below the propshaft where it exits the
gear case. The prop shaft had a very light coat of oil (it's usually dry). It
wasn't much oil, BUT it's a new leak.
>
> Questions:
> How urgent should I consider the repair of this leak?
> What's involved in replacing the front prop shaft seal on an M14P? (are there
any serious hidden gotchas, or is it fairly straighforward?)
>
> Cheers,
> John Coffey
> Yak-55m Lover
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| Subject: | M-14P has slight leak at front propshaft seal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
Craig,
I have a Whirlwind 3-blade prop installed. There is no leakage from the
face of the engine's propellor flange. All signs point to the origin of
the leak being the prop shaft seal at the front of the gear case.
ASSUMING this is the case, seems like you're saying there's no urgency
in fixing it. Correct?
Thanks!
jc
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Payne [mailto:cpayne@mc.net]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14P has slight leak at front propshaft seal
--> Yak-List message posted by: Craig Payne <cpayne@mc.net>
Whoa Pardner... a tablespoon's worth? That's not uncommon for mid-time
engines flown in aerobatics regularly. There is also another source of
oil leaks nearby:
A loose prop oil shaft due to an aging gasket at the rear that is
compressed, or prop dome seals that have lost their "spring". Getting
the nose case off is no big deal but getting all the other "stuff"
attached to it is. Why not check the easy stuff first?
Craig Payne
Coffey, John wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
>
> Yak-Meisters,
> After my last flight of the day in my Yak-55m yesterday, I noticed a
bit of oil on the gills that had apparently leaked from the prop shaft
seal at the front of my M14P gearcase.
>
> I had been doing a few tumbles during the last flight and noticed the
oil leakage during a walkaround after the flight. Looked like a
tablespoon full dripped on the front of the gills immediately below the
propshaft where it exits the gear case. The prop shaft had a very light
coat of oil (it's usually dry). It wasn't much oil, BUT it's a new leak.
>
> Questions:
> How urgent should I consider the repair of this leak?
> What's involved in replacing the front prop shaft seal on an M14P?
(are there any serious hidden gotchas, or is it fairly straighforward?)
>
> Cheers,
> John Coffey
> Yak-55m Lover
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| Subject: | WB magazine..... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
"Page 21 (of the Warbirds Magazine) shows a picture of a Nanchang CJ-6A
which is described as a Yak 52! Sacrilege!"
Janet;
Sacrilege? To have the CJ called a 52? Why I think that's a downright
compliment! You should feel proud that the writer thinks so highly of
your plane! :)
Who was that writer anyways? It's obvious he knows his stuff.
Frank
N9110M
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Gus;
I owe you a ride in N9110M. You guessed right. But you're going to have
to come out to Cal City to claim it! :)
Frank
N9110M
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| Subject: | RE: In the barn (I-3 Interavia) Great dog fighter !!!!!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Barry,
Should be a great flyer and I hear that it is an awesome DOG FIGHTER !!!!!!
I wouldn't know since I can never see it because it is on my tail the whole
time!!!! Great vertical penetration and turns on a dime. Converts from two
seats to a single seat monster within an hour. Very lite on the controls
compared to your CJ !!! I better stop or it will cost me to buy one.
Have fun and don't come looking to dog fight anyone soon with that beast
!!!!!!
Be safe and wear tight socks so nothing falls out during HIGH "G's" !!!!!
SHREK
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Hancock [mailto:radialpower@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:14 PM
To: Yak-list
Subject: In the barn
Well, my first airplane has now come and gone. I'm safely back from
Colorado where I dropped off the Gherkin and picked up the I-3. The journey
took two days longer than planned because of weather, but all in all it was
a good trip.
I'll write up a full account at a later date, but I'll summarize my
thoughts here:
-funny how grown men get attached to metal flying machines. It was a
difficult moment to say goodbye to the old gal. I learned most of what I
know about flying at her controls. It was not easy to walk away after 3
years, over 400 hours, and taking her from plain Jane to Homecoming Queen.
-The I-3 is an *animal* of an airplane. I look forward to being a good
enough stick to utilizing all of its performance. Being airborne in 300 feet
is exciting...
-I'm so used to taxiing the CJ it was fun to watch someone else learn that
it's not as easy as it looks.
-Cross country in a short wing aerobatic plane sucks. 130 knots and 1.5
hour legs are bad enough, but add feeling EVERY stinkin' bump the entire way
and it's not something I want to ever do much of.
-Cross country in a light airplane is cool...you see places and meet
people you'd never dream of before you left on that trip.
-It's amazing what 7700' MSL and 90 degrees does to airplane performance.
The I-3 felt like a Decathlon...I can only imagine what a Decathlon would
feel like there.
-Phoenix in the summer is hot. Phoenix in the summer inside a clear bubble
canopy and very little ventilation...who needs a sauna?
-Flying for 5 days straight, cross country and alone, is about my limit.
-Flying is fun, but there's nothing that comes close to the feeling of
seeing the excitement on your 5 month old's face when he sees you for the
first time in 5 days...except maybe when he falls asleep in your arms a few
hours later.
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Director of Operations
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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| Subject: | Rare Photo....(at least it's flying related) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
Here is an extremely rare photo of the Hugh's racer. The later model had
counter rotating props as I understand it. That model is what cause him
to crash when one of the counter-rotating props went into beta. There's
a documentary film coming out soon about the aviation exploits of Howard
Hughs and this racer.
Here's the link to the picture.
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/racer.jpg
Frank
N9110M
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| Subject: | Re: RE: In the barn (I-3 Interavia) Great dog fighter !!!!!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william@netpros.net>
I think I can give Barry some fun ... next thing you know we'll be
putting laser systems into these things ...
Bill [Yak-55] Halverson
Mark Schrick wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
>
>Barry,
>
>Should be a great flyer and I hear that it is an awesome DOG FIGHTER !!!!!!
>I wouldn't know since I can never see it because it is on my tail the whole
>time!!!! Great vertical penetration and turns on a dime. Converts from two
>seats to a single seat monster within an hour. Very lite on the controls
>compared to your CJ !!! I better stop or it will cost me to buy one.
>
>Have fun and don't come looking to dog fight anyone soon with that beast
>!!!!!!
>
>Be safe and wear tight socks so nothing falls out during HIGH "G's" !!!!!
>
>SHREK
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rare Photo....(at least it's flying related) |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
Not the Hughe's racer. That was the H1 of approx. 1935, Single engine
powered by a P&W R1535, Twin Wasp Jr. of 825HP.
Original hangs in the Smithsonian and a full scale EXACT replica has just
recently been completed by a Mr. Jim Wright of Cottage Grove, Oregon.
The aircraft shown is a prototype of a Hughe's late WW2 fighter design
powered by two P&W R4360's (approx. 3500 HP each). I can't recall the
Hughe's designation but believe the military designation was XF11 though I
may be wrong there.
The photo would be from 1946. Early in the test flight program one of the
reversible propellors (left engine I think) went to uncommanded reverse and
made the aircraft unflyable.
Howard Hughe's was severely injured in the crash and probably never fully
recovered from it.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Rare Photo....(at least it's flying related)
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Yaksters;
> Here is an extremely rare photo of the Hugh's racer. The later model had
> counter rotating props as I understand it. That model is what cause him
> to crash when one of the counter-rotating props went into beta. There's
> a documentary film coming out soon about the aviation exploits of Howard
> Hughs and this racer.
> Here's the link to the picture.
> http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/racer.jpg
>
> Frank
> N9110M
>
>
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