Yak-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/08/03


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 07:42 AM - No Start (JAmund1009@aol.com)
     2. 07:50 AM - No Start for Yak 52.......try moving the prop manually. (Mark Schrick)
     3. 07:54 AM - Re: No Start (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 08:00 AM - Re: No Start for Yak 52.......try moving the prop manually. (A. Dennis Savarese)
     5. 11:02 AM - Re: Application ()
     6. 11:11 AM - Re: Movie ()
     7. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Application (A. Dennis Savarese)
     8. 11:56 AM - Re: Re: Application (Ernie)
     9. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: Application (Cy Galley)
    10. 02:34 PM - CJ Tiedowns (ByronMFox@aol.com)
    11. 07:13 PM - Decals (Mark Morgan)
    12. 08:55 PM - Wings (again) (Rick Swanson)
    13. 10:51 PM - Re: CJ Tiedowns (cjpilot710@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:42:52 AM PST US
    From: JAmund1009@aol.com
    Subject: No Start
    --> Yak-List message posted by: JAmund1009@aol.com Fellow Yak'rs - Press the the start button on my 52 and nothing happens. Can anyone suggest what to troubleshoot? There is plenty of air in the system and it turns over fine if I manually over-ride the solenoid. I do not hear any noises such as the shower of sparks box might emit. It acts like no power is reaching the start button. Any ideas before I start tearing into it. I know the solenoid is expensive and don't relish changing it. I'd like to fix this before MTW/OSH (like tomorrow). John Amundson


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    Time: 07:50:55 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: No Start for Yak 52.......try moving the prop manually.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> John, If you turn the prop it will fire. Sometimes the stuck between two cylinders which causes air to not fill the cylinders. You can turn the prop from the cockpit by reaching with your left foot. Near the firewall on the left side inside the cockpit is a value that has a silver lip or ear pointing to the right. If you push that device UP it will rotate the prop. The aircraft will fire then. I don't have all the technical wording of what the device is but it works every time when the prop won't move during start. Hope that helps but place the brakes on and move the prop also will start your plane. Just more time involved. Fly Safe, Mark (SHREK) Schrick YAK Driver, Inc Western USA Dealer for AEROSTAR (Yak 52TW/W) 966 Wallace Drive San Jose, CA 95120 (408) 323-5150 phone/fax (408) 391-6664 cell www.yakdriver.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JAmund1009@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: No Start --> Yak-List message posted by: JAmund1009@aol.com Fellow Yak'rs - Press the the start button on my 52 and nothing happens. Can anyone suggest what to troubleshoot? There is plenty of air in the system and it turns over fine if I manually over-ride the solenoid. I do not hear any noises such as the shower of sparks box might emit. It acts like no power is reaching the start button. Any ideas before I start tearing into it. I know the solenoid is expensive and don't relish changing it. I'd like to fix this before MTW/OSH (like tomorrow). John Amundson


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    Time: 07:54:23 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: No Start
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> John, This is not meant to sound condescending, but is the switch in the rear cockpit just above the START button, with the metal "ears" on each side, in the UP position? Have you tried starting the airplane from the rear cockpit? If you do, the same switch must be in the DOWN position, giving starting control to the rear cockpit. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: <JAmund1009@aol.com> Subject: Yak-List: No Start > --> Yak-List message posted by: JAmund1009@aol.com > > Fellow Yak'rs - Press the the start button on my 52 and nothing happens. Can > anyone suggest what to troubleshoot? There is plenty of air in the system and > it turns over fine if I manually over-ride the solenoid. I do not hear any > noises such as the shower of sparks box might emit. It acts like no power is > reaching the start button. Any ideas before I start tearing into it. I know the > solenoid is expensive and don't relish changing it. I'd like to fix this before > MTW/OSH (like tomorrow). > > John Amundson > >


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    Time: 08:00:22 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: No Start for Yak 52.......try moving the prop manually.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Before you try moving the prop by hand or by manual engagement of the air start valve with your foot, if the air start valve/solenoid doesn't go "pop" when you push the button, it's an electrical problem. Again, check the position of the switch in the rear cockpit first. Then start with the battery and make sure you have 24 volts on the switched electrical buss on the top of the generator and ignition switches inside the inspection panel on the right side of the airplane. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> Subject: Yak-List: No Start for Yak 52.......try moving the prop manually. > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> > > John, > > If you turn the prop it will fire. > > Sometimes the stuck between two cylinders which causes air to not fill the > cylinders. > You can turn the prop from the cockpit by reaching with your left foot. Near > the firewall on the left side inside the cockpit is a value that has a > silver lip or ear pointing to the right. If you push that device UP it will > rotate the prop. The aircraft will fire then. > > I don't have all the technical wording of what the device is but it works > every time when the prop won't move during start. > > Hope that helps but place the brakes on and move the prop also will start > your plane. Just more time involved. > > Fly Safe, > > Mark (SHREK) Schrick > > YAK Driver, Inc > Western USA Dealer for AEROSTAR (Yak 52TW/W) > 966 Wallace Drive > San Jose, CA 95120 > (408) 323-5150 phone/fax > (408) 391-6664 cell > www.yakdriver.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > JAmund1009@aol.com > To: YAK-LIST@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: No Start > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: JAmund1009@aol.com > > Fellow Yak'rs - Press the the start button on my 52 and nothing happens. Can > anyone suggest what to troubleshoot? There is plenty of air in the system > and > it turns over fine if I manually over-ride the solenoid. I do not hear any > noises such as the shower of sparks box might emit. It acts like no power is > reaching the start button. Any ideas before I start tearing into it. I know > the > solenoid is expensive and don't relish changing it. I'd like to fix this > before > MTW/OSH (like tomorrow). > > John Amundson > >


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    Time: 11:02:58 AM PST US
    From: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
    Subject: Re: Application
    --> Yak-List message posted by: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> Please see the attached zip file for details.


    Message 6


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    Time: 11:11:09 AM PST US
    From: <phil@petrasoft.net>
    Subject: Re: Movie
    --> Yak-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net> Please see the attached zip file for details.


    Message 7


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    Time: 11:13:37 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Application
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Fred, You can't attach anything to emails sent to this email list. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Application > --> Yak-List message posted by: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> > > Please see the attached zip file for details. > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:56:43 AM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Application
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> This message was posted by several different email adresses, its a virus or spam attempt. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Application > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > Fred, > You can't attach anything to emails sent to this email list. > Dennis Savarese > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Application > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> > > > > Please see the attached zip file for details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:35:06 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Application
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> These are virus generated messages using Fred's name. They have been sent to all the matronics lists. ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Application > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > Fred, > You can't attach anything to emails sent to this email list. > Dennis Savarese > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Application > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> > > > > Please see the attached zip file for details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:34:45 PM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: CJ Tiedowns
    --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com This will be my first trip to MTW/OSH with my CJ. Last time to OSH with my Lancair 320, my tiedowns consisted of three galvanized spikes and some nylon cord. What do you OSH-soil conditions-CJ-tiedown-wise folks recommend? Thanks, Blitz Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Home 415-380-0907 Cell 415-307-2405 Fax 415-380-0917


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    Time: 07:13:41 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Morgan" <aircraftmanager@msn.com>
    Subject: Decals
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Morgan" <aircraftmanager@msn.com> Yaksters, Evening! Well, I have had my Yak for 2 weeks now. Pull the controls surfaces off day 1 and they should be done next week. Day 2 started to strip the aircraft and almost done. The paint just runs off the aircraft. The Russians did not use any primor. lol. Anyway, decided to stay with the orig paint scheme, except for the base white, I am goin to use yellow. A friend on the field just joined the Lima, Lima boys in his T-34 and my paint guy over estimated the yellow base by almost 3 gals. Lets just say I am getting a super deal on paint and labor. He does an excellent job. So, my question to the group is are there any decals to be purchased. I took alot of photos and probably go with that, but would rather have either paint decals or self adhesive. Appreciate any help, Mark Morgan, 502GC


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    Time: 08:55:32 PM PST US
    From: "Rick Swanson" <rswanson@hometownnrh.net>
    Subject: Wings (again)
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Swanson" <rswanson@hometownnrh.net> Once again I must ask for the assistance of the gurus of the yak community. I was going over my paperwork from the original purchase of my 52 and noticed that the date of manufacture for the fuselage is 1984 while the D. O. M. for the wings is 1993. What if anything are the implications of this and is this a 7 or 5 G wing? I was told this is a light wing but I was under the impression that anything after 1989 had the beefed up wing incorporated from the factory. Any insight would be appreciated. Rick Swanson 7078Y


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    Time: 10:51:46 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: CJ Tiedowns
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com I use auger type.




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