---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/18/03: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:40 AM - Fw: Ref July issue Warbirds (cjpilot710@aol.com) 2. 11:06 AM - Re: Fw: Ref July issue Warbirds (D Zeman) 3. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Fw: Ref July issue Warbirds (cjpilot710@aol.com) 4. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Fw: Ref July issue Warbirds (Brian Lloyd) 5. 03:24 PM - Propeler governor (jay reiter) 6. 04:11 PM - Re: Propeler governor (Brian Lloyd) 7. 09:01 PM - Re: Re: Re: Fw: Ref July issue Warbirds (D Zeman) 8. 09:27 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Fw: Ref July issue Warbirds (cjpilot710@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:44 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Ref July issue Warbirds deegrimm@cox.net, aapilot@adelphia.net, MFilucci@aol.com, yak-list@matronics.com --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Ref July issue Warbirds Dear Editor, A correction is needed in Budd Davisson's article. Jim Goolsby is not nor has been President of the Yak Pilots Association. That sometimes thankless job was in the very capable hands of Mike Filucci at that time, although I was responsible for Bushi Cheng's visit. Interesting note, we were able to raise the donated funds for the visit in just 10 days. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. Dear Editor, A correction is needed in Budd Davisson's article. Jim Goolsby is not=20nor has been President of the Yak Pilots Association. That sometimes thankless job was in the very capable hands of Mike Filucci at that time, although I was responsible for Bushi Cheng's visit. Interesting note, we=20were able to raise the donated funds for the visit in just 10 days. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:02 AM PST US From: D Zeman Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fwd: Ref July issue Warbirds --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman Correction to Jim Goolsby article... Not all M-14Ps are Romanian built. The wording is rather misleading; "...Romanian-built, Russian designed". D. Zeman __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:01 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Fwd: Ref July issue Warbirds --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 7/18/2003 2:06:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, curious_wings@yahoo.com writes: > Correction to Jim Goolsby article... > > Not all M-14Ps are Romanian built. The wording is > rather misleading; "...Romanian-built, Russian > designed". > > D. Zeman > > D. Zeman, You are correct. My screw up. Most of the Yak stuff I get exposed to is from AeroStar. My M-14p came from them. I personally don't know how to get or where to get a Russian built engine. When I wrote the article, I was speaking from my experience, but you are correct. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:32 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Fwd: Ref July issue Warbirds --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > You are correct. My screw up. Most of the Yak stuff I get exposed to is > from AeroStar. My M-14p came from them. I personally don't know how to get or > where to get a Russian built engine. When I wrote the article, I was speaking > from my experience, but you are correct. Jim Wickersham of Shadetree Aviation in Carson City, NV, still has NOS (new, old-stock) Russian-built M-14Ps. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:08 PM PST US From: "jay reiter" Subject: Yak-List: Propeler governor --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" Does the housai really get 2350 rpm or are the governors set to 2150 for reduced power in China. We have checked everything except the tach. We are trying to borrow an optical tach to eliminate the tach. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:08 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propeler governor --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd jay reiter wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" > > Does the housai really get 2350 rpm or are the governors set to 2150 > for reduced power in China. We have checked everything except the > tach. We are trying to borrow an optical tach to eliminate the tach. Yes, they turn 2350 RPM. If you use an optical tach checker don't forget that the prop is geared to turn more slowly than the crank. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:03 PM PST US From: D Zeman Subject: Yak-List: Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Ref July issue Warbirds --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman Jim, I am curious, how does your serial number on your M-a4P begin? My understanding is that Russian engines begin with K(Ya), where (Ya) is a "backwards" R; Romanian with a RA. It may be my circles, but I never ran into a Romanian engine before 1999-2000. D. Zeman __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:13 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Ref July issue Warbirds --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 7/19/2003 12:01:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, curious_wings@yahoo.com writes: > Jim, > > I am curious, how does your serial number on your > M-a4P begin? My understanding is that Russian engines > begin with K(Ya), where (Ya) is a "backwards" R; > Romanian with a RA. It may be my circles, but I never > ran into a Romanian engine before 1999-2000. > D. Zeman D, Sam Sax & I purchased two engines together in August 1997. Our understanding was these were the last of a production batch. My engine's S/N is RA9642002. Sam's is just one number different. This engine was purchased from Aerostar S.A. in Bacau, Romania and we used AeroThrust Corp. as our purchasing agent. At 431 hours, she started making metal, which led us to find that the factory had put a scrapper ring (instead of an oil ring), in the oil land of #3 piston. This caused removing all 9 cylinders for inspection and replacing all rings and gaskets. I was told later but I can not verify this, that this batch of M-14p engines were Aerostar's first production run. My letters to Aerostar were never answered. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.