Yak-List Digest Archive

Mon 07/21/03


Total Messages Posted: 31



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     1. 01:36 AM - Re: I-3 (Mark Schrick)
     2. 02:18 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/18/03 (N188rv@aol.com)
     3. 04:40 AM - cartoon  (Lee Taylor)
     4. 05:27 AM - Re: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation (Brian Lloyd)
     5. 06:28 AM - Re: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation (Lee Taylor)
     6. 06:51 AM - Yak 52 panel screws (Tom Johnson)
     7. 07:58 AM - Alert! (Deon Esterhuizen)
     8. 09:55 AM - A little Aviation Humor (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     9. 10:14 AM - Found Man (Yakjock)
    10. 10:16 AM - Re: Alert! (Bob Fitzpatrick)
    11. 10:40 AM - trip to MTW/OSH (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    12. 10:47 AM - Re: Alert! (Deon Esterhuizen)
    13. 10:57 AM - Re: Yak 52 panel screws (Doug)
    14. 11:05 AM - Re: trip to MTW/OSH (Brian Lloyd)
    15. 11:40 AM - Re: Propellor governor  (Dave Laird)
    16. 12:56 PM - Re: Alert! (Lee Taylor)
    17. 01:06 PM - Iris gills (Doug)
    18. 01:09 PM - Re: Iris gills (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    19. 01:57 PM - Re: Iris gills (Doug)
    20. 04:45 PM - Re: trip to MTW/OSH (Bob Fitzpatrick)
    21. 05:41 PM - JL-2 Props (Jay McIntyre)
    22. 05:58 PM - Surging M14P....and the easy fix........................ (Frank Haertlein)
    23. 07:31 PM - Re: trip to MTW/OSH (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    24. 07:39 PM - Letter to the editor (Ernie)
    25. 07:44 PM - Re: Letter to the editor (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    26. 07:49 PM - Letter (FamilyGage@aol.com)
    27. 08:01 PM - oops (Ernie)
    28. 08:05 PM - Re: Letter (Ernie)
    29. 08:07 PM - Letter to the editor (Ernie)
    30. 08:11 PM - Letter to the editor (Ernie)
    31. 09:01 PM - Depression #6 (Sam Sax)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:36:24 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: I-3
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> Hope to see that CJ at OSH this year. Good luck with the CJ. When will you have a "go....NO GO point? Late next week? Good luck and be safe. SHREK -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock Subject: Yak-List: I-3 --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net> > > > Barry, > > How is the new fire breathing, dogfighting machine of yours (Interovia > E-3)? > > By now that thing should be breaking all kinds of envelopes records > over the > CJ. > > Hope all is well and keep us informed on the E-3 progress and what you > find > while flying it. > > Enquiring minds what to know........... > > Mark "SHREK" Schrick The Interavia I-3 (Russians pronounce "I" as "E") is getting a going over and I'm not going to "explore the envelope" until I have Sergei in my back seat in mid-August. For now, just trying like heck to get the CJ ready in time for OSH.... <sigh> Barrry > Barry Hancock Director of Operations Red Stars, Inc. 949.300.5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"


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    Time: 02:18:24 AM PST US
    From: N188rv@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/18/03
    --> Yak-List message posted by: N188rv@aol.com Does anyone have the address for the Yak Association or the War Bird Association. As a new Yak owner I guess I should join up. Stan Mehrhoff


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    Time: 04:40:55 AM PST US
    From: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com>
    Subject: cartoon
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> All you pilots think you're hot stuff, huh? Check out the Klyde Morris cartoon this week to find out who really has the skill, talent, and knowledge in aviation. :>)) http://www.klydemorris.com/strips.cfm Lee Taylor


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    Time: 05:27:11 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Alan Cockrell wrote: > Brian, There is no easy and totally safe way to do this. Agreed. > That's why > we picked a Fighter Weapons School graduate with F-4, F-5, and A-7 > time to do it. Joing into the slot position in the diamond is easy if > moving laterally from the wing, but it is tricky when joing from a > high energy staight ahead closure. An overshoot would result in a > dangerous underrun of the leader. Conversely, joining in the > traditional fingertip slot would provide a straight ahead escape path > in case of an overshoot. This is better, especially if the overshoot > contingency is prebriefed. I agree 100%. Regardless, joining directly into the #3 position strikes me as even more dangerous than joining into the slot. Regardless, this strikes me as a three-beer problem that needs to be solved in the hangar at the end of the day. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4


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    Time: 06:28:21 AM PST US
    From: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com>
    Subject: Re: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Alan Cockrell wrote: > Brian, There is no easy and totally safe way to do this. Agreed. > That's why > we picked a Fighter Weapons School graduate with F-4, F-5, and A-7 > time to do it. Joing into the slot position in the diamond is easy if > moving laterally from the wing, but it is tricky when joing from a > high energy staight ahead closure. An overshoot would result in a > dangerous underrun of the leader. Conversely, joining in the > traditional fingertip slot would provide a straight ahead escape path > in case of an overshoot. This is better, especially if the overshoot > contingency is prebriefed. I agree 100%. Regardless, joining directly into the #3 position strikes me as even more dangerous than joining into the slot. Regardless, this strikes me as a three-beer problem that needs to be solved in the hangar at the end of the day. ----totally agree with all the above comments. ANY formation work is potentially hazardous, and must be approached with total professionalism, preplanning, and practice. I am reminded of a movie clip that was taken after the end of WWII, when a flight of Australian Mosquitos was coming back home. They were landing at their home field in Australia, diamond formation, last official flight of their war. They made a low pass for the home field crowd waiting to greet them, and midfield, the leader pulled up sharply, obviously unexpectedly. His wingmen were above and tight, they both hit him with their wings, blowing off his tail and their wings. The debris destroyed the slot man. This stuff ain't casual, guys, but this formation, properly planned and practiced by competent pilots, I think is a wonderful idea. PS In my opinion, the safe way to do this in any manner is VERTICAL separation, until stabilized. Same for almost any other formation work. Look at any of the pro formation teams. They are never exactly at the same vertical level. And the trail guys are always low. Lee Taylor -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4


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    Time: 06:51:54 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
    Subject: Yak 52 panel screws
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Anyone have a source for instrument panel screws for Yak 52? Talking about the pilot 1 and pilot 2 cockpit main flight instrument panel. Appears the screws are M3 & M4, oval head, countersunk steel or stainless with an odd angle countersink (phillips). Need lots of them. Please advise off list. Tom J. tjohnson@cannonaviation.com


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    Time: 07:58:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Alert!
    From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for symptoms of metal fatigue. Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is with the damaged ends already sawed off. Deon Esterhuizen 1990 yak 52 N192YK


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    Time: 09:55:35 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: A little Aviation Humor
    gaf127enl@msn.com, MDSHELLEY@aol.com, yakjock@msn.com, walterfricke@yahoo.com, finleycj6@juno.com, BDorsey777@aol.com, wildf15c@hotmail.com, Swifty305@aol.com, tcalloway@datatechnique.com, paulcfitzgerald@attbi.com, mason.t@worldnet.att.net, radialpower@cox.net --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Some may have already seen this, but I still read these things which speak volumes of reality. From a Navy guy of course. You have to keep it simple for them. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. From: "thomas mason" <mason.t@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Fw: Aviation Humor TOM MASON ----- Original Message ----- From: Capttom Subject: Aviation Humor AVIATION HUMOR Blue water Navy truism: There are more planes in the ocean than there are submarines in the sky. If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter -- and therefore, unsafe. Navy carrier pilots to Air Force pilots: Flaring is like squatting to pee. When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane, you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash. Without ammunition, the USAF would be just another expensive flying club. What is the similarity between air traffic controllers (ATC) and pilots? If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies. If ATC screws up, the pilot dies. Never trade luck for skill. The three most common expressions (or famous last words) in aviation are: "Why is it doing that?" "Where are we?" and "Oh, s--t!" Weather forecasts are horoscopes with numbers. Airspeed, altitude, or brains: two are always needed to complete the flight=20successfully. A smooth landing is mostly luck; two in a row is all luck; three in a row is prevarication. Mankind has a perfect record in aviation: we never left one up there! Flashlights are tubular metal containers kept in a flight bag for the purpose of storing dead batteries. Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person=20on the ground incapable of understanding it or doing anything about it. When a flight is proceeding incredibly well, you forgot something. Just remember, if you crash because of weather, your funeral will be held on a sunny day. Advice given to Royal Air Force pilots during World War II: When a prang (crash) seems inevitable, endeavor to strike the softest, cheapest object in the vicinity as slowly and gently as possible. The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world: it can just barely kill you. (Attributed to Max Stanley, Northrop test pilot) A pilot who doesn't have any fear probably isn't flying his plane to its maximum. (Jon McBride, astronaut) If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash as possible. (Bob Hoover - renowned aerobatic and test pilot) If an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it. Ride the bastard down. (Ernest K. Gann, author &aviator) Though I fly through the Valley of Death, I shall fear no evil, for I am at=2080,000 feet and climbing. (sign over the entrance to the SR-71 operating location in Kadena, Japan). You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F. Crickmore=20- test pilot) Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you. There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime. (Sign over squadron operations desk at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Arizona, 1970). The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good=20bowel movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in life where you get to experience all three at the same time. (Author unknown, but someone who's been there) "Now I know what a dog feels like watching TV." (A DC-9 captain trainee attempting to check out on the "glass cockpit" of an A-320). If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. Basic Flying Rules: Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near the edges of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, buildings, sea, trees, and interstellar space. It is much more difficult to fly there. You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal. <HTML xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"> <META contentWord.Document nameProgId> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" nameGENERATOR> <LINK href"cid:filelist.xml@01C34F6A.4FED8640" relFile-List><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing>4.5 pt</w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext"edit" spidmax"1027"/> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext"edit" data"1"/> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> TOM MASON ----- Original Message ----- From: <A titlecapttom@cfl.rr.com href"mailto:capttom@cfl.rr.com">Capttom Subject: Aviation Humor <![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><o:p></o:p> AVIATION HUMOR Blue water Navy truism: There are more planes in the ocean than there are submarines in the sky. If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter -- and therefore, unsafe. Navy carrier pilots to Air Force pilots: Flaring is like squatting to pee. When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane, you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash. Without ammunition, the USAF would be just another expensive flying club. What is the similarity between air traffic controllers (ATC) and pilots? If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies. If ATC screws up, the pilot dies. Never trade luck for skill. The three most common expressions (or famous last words) in aviation are: "Why is it doing that?" "Where are we?" and "Oh, s--t!" Weather forecasts are horoscopes with numbers. Airspeed, altitude, or brains: two are always needed to complete the flight successfully. A smooth landing is mostly luck; two in a row is all luck; three in a row is prevarication. Mankind has a perfect record in aviation: we never left one up there! Flashlights are tubular metal containers kept in a flight bag for the purpose of storing dead batteries. Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding it or doing anything about it. When a flight is proceeding incredibly well, you forgot something. Just remember, if you crash because of weather, your funeral will be held on a sunny day. Advice given to Royal Air Force pilots during World War II: When a prang (crash) seems inevitable, endeavor to strike the softest, cheapest object in the vicinity=20as slowly and gently as possible. The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world: it can just barely kill you. (Attributed to Max Stanley, Northrop test pilot) A pilot who doesn't have any fear probably isn't flying his plane to its maximum. (Jon McBride, astronaut) If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash as possible. (Bob Hoover - renowned aerobatic and test pilot) If an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it. Ride the bastard down. (Ernest K. Gann, author aviator) Though I fly through the <ST1:PLACE><ST1:PLACETYPE>Valley</ST1:PLACETYPE> of <ST1:PLACENAME>Death</ST1:PLACENAME></ST1:PLACE>, I shall fear no evil, for=20I am at 80,000 feet and climbing. (sign over the entrance to the SR-71 operating location in <ST1:PLACE><ST1:CITY>Kadena</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>Japan</ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE>). You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F. Crickmore - test pilot) Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you. There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime. (Sign over squadron operations desk at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Arizona, 1970). The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good bowel movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in life where you get to experience all three at the same time. (Author unknown, but someone who's been there) "Now I know what a dog feels like watching TV." (A DC-9 captain trainee attempting to check out on the "glass cockpit" of an A-320). If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. Basic Flying Rules: Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near the edges of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, buildings, sea, trees, and interstellar space. It is much more difficult to=20fly there. You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal.<o:p></o:p>


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    Time: 10:14:12 AM PST US
    From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
    Subject: Found Man
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Alan, Clever idea! Another thought: The two elements could fly a parallel but separated track and then merge over the wedding party. Symbolically this would be closer to a joining of equals. #4 joining to a Diamond: With the "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" thought in mind, it looks like a small dog coming from behind to mount a much larger animal - from below! Negative male pictures. The picture that comes to mind of the "found man" joining in as #3 is that of a little chick running to get under Mama's wing. Again, not studly. Hal


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    Time: 10:16:14 AM PST US
    From: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Alert!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> Deon, You're one lucky guy. Could you tell us how many hours on the plane. Any damage history? Thanks. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> Subject: Yak-List: Alert! > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > > Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I > decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was > purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to > discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that > the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil > reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the > tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the > oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped > directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. > > I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for > symptoms of metal fatigue. > > Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is > with the damaged ends already sawed off. > > Deon Esterhuizen > 1990 yak 52 > N192YK > >


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    Time: 10:40:57 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: trip to MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Well troops, Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to build into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by early Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, even as just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the Mississippi Valley northward. This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ We're (my GIB Craig Payne) are going to watch #6. If by Thursday morning he/she is in central Cuba as forecast, we'll leave that afternoon. If she turns more westerly toward the Yucatan, we may leave on Saturday morning as planned. If she take a more northerly track, it will be in central FL. by Saturday morning. Getting ready to make a run for it ! Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.


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    Time: 10:47:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Alert!
    From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> Hi Bob, 189.5 hours - prop, airframe and engine. The only damage history is an "almost" gear-up incident. The previous owner pulled the gear up while sitting on the taxi way. The right aileron and wing tip had very light damage. I'm now trying to get my hands on chromoly tubing to here in Florida to fix the problem. Deon. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Fitzpatrick [mailto:rmfitz@direcway.com] Subject: Re: Yak-List: Alert! --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> Deon, You're one lucky guy. Could you tell us how many hours on the plane. Any damage history? Thanks. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> Subject: Yak-List: Alert! > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > > Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I > decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was > purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to > discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that > the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil > reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the > tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the > oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped > directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. > > I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for > symptoms of metal fatigue. > > Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is > with the damaged ends already sawed off. > > Deon Esterhuizen > 1990 yak 52 > N192YK > >


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    Time: 10:57:34 AM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak 52 panel screws
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> Tom, Check to see if hey are the same as used in a CJ, I just may have some. Always yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 panel screws > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > Anyone have a source for instrument panel screws for Yak 52? > Talking about the pilot 1 and pilot 2 cockpit main flight instrument panel. > > Appears the screws are M3 & M4, oval head, countersunk steel or stainless with an odd angle countersink (phillips). > Need lots of them. > > Please advise off list. > > Tom J. > tjohnson@cannonaviation.com > >


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    Time: 11:05:06 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: trip to MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > Well troops, > Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to build > into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by early > Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, even as > just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the Mississippi Valley > northward. Yeah, it looks like we may have dodged the bullet down here. Thank you everyone who offered to help. > This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ Which means it stands a chance of being right. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4


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    Time: 11:40:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Propellor governor
    From: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com> On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 05:20 PM, jay reiter wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net> > > Does the housai really get 2350 rpm or are the governors set to 2150 > for reduced power in China. We have checked everything except the > tach. We are trying to borrow an optical tach to eliminate the tach. > > Yeah, they really get to 2350. Check the tach cable assembly to make sure it is secure. Have someone move the prop lever in the cockpit and watch to make sure the cable housing in the engine compartment isn't "sliding" and keeping you from actually reaching the 2350 position. Mine was doing this and I just had it fixed during the annual inspection. good luck. Dave Laird N63536 "Betty" Dallas


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    Time: 12:56:01 PM PST US
    From: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com>
    Subject: Alert!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > > Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I > decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was > purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to > discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that > the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil > reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the > tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the > oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped > directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. > > I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for > symptoms of metal fatigue. -----Guys, one other related item. PLEASE check your mounts for any kind of fastener that is NOT a rubber-mounted Adel clamp, or doesn't have some kind of tubing protector under whatever fastener is securing whatever to the mount tubes. I have replaced or repaired three engine mounts in my career because someone used tiewraps or unprotected clamps to secure items to the motor mounts. Oil and dirt collects under them, forming grinding compound under vibration, and the tubes literally get cut. One of the tubes wasn't broken, it was worn completely through. Lee Taylor > > Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is > with the damaged ends already sawed off. > > Deon Esterhuizen > 1990 yak 52 > N192YK > >


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    Time: 01:06:40 PM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Iris gills
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> Listers and lurkers, I am looking for an "iris type" set of gill shutters for a M14. Anyone know of a set please let me know. Flowers are all dead, I won again. Always yakin, Doug Sapp


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    Time: 01:09:12 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Iris gills
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 7/21/2003 4:07:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rvfltd@televar.com writes: > Flowers are all dead, I won again. > > Always yakin, > Doug Sapp > > > So are you coming to OSH??????????? Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.


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    Time: 01:57:45 PM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: Iris gills
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > So are you coming to OSH??????????? > Jim Goolsby No, now I am going to work on finishing up the mini yak! But first I will finish Hal's custom panel, Dave's Cleveland nose wheel conv., Andy's stock blank panel, a few fuel cap covers, a mod to keep the fuel balanced on long X countries (that one is almost done), Randy's aux tanks, and then I get to work on my baby............."the cobblers children go barefoot". Gonna go yakin once again, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: <cjpilot710@aol.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Iris gills > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > In a message dated 7/21/2003 4:07:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > rvfltd@televar.com writes: > > > Flowers are all dead, I won again. > > > > Always yakin, > > Doug Sapp > > > > > > > > So are you coming to OSH??????????? > Jim Goolsby > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > "With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC > "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes > until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > >


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    Time: 04:45:20 PM PST US
    From: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: trip to MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> Jim, If you get this far and run out of daylight or weather you can stay over @ Corn Field. Craig's been here. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <cjpilot710@aol.com> Subject: Yak-List: trip to MTW/OSH > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > Well troops, > Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to build > into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by early > Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, even as > just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the Mississippi Valley > northward. > > This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ We're (my GIB Craig Payne) are > going to watch #6. If by Thursday morning he/she is in central Cuba as > forecast, we'll leave that afternoon. If she turns more westerly toward the > Yucatan, we may leave on Saturday morning as planned. If she take a more northerly > track, it will be in central FL. by Saturday morning. > > Getting ready to make a run for it ! > > Jim Goolsby > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > "With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC > "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes > until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > >


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    Time: 05:41:13 PM PST US
    From: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com>
    Subject: JL-2 Props
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com> Hi... anyone know anything about the Chinese JL-2 3-bladed props advertised on Barnstormers recently? <EM>Regards, Jay</EM> P.S. see you at Classic Fighters 2005! <A href="http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/">www.classicfighters.co.nz


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    Time: 05:58:39 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Surging M14P....and the easy fix........................
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Yaksters: As regards my engine surging problem......... The back-firing was caused by a crossfire between two plug wires due to carbon tracing in the distributor cap. Cleaning that up solved the backfiring issue. That was the easy part but the engine still surged up and down at a regular rate between approx 40 and 55%. After talking to the guys doing the maintenance on the 1939 Rosco-Turner replica here at Cal City, one of the mechanics instantly said "I know what the problem is! You've got an induction leak!" An induction leak was found due to loose carburetor bolts. The bolts were tightened and the surging went away. At low idle, the supercharger does not have enough boost to pressurize the intake so the engine sucks more or less atmospheric pressure. Because the engine was sucking air thru the base of the carb gasket the engine would run lean. This speeds up the engine momentarily. The speedup of the engine is enough to cause the blower to start functioning and thus the engine now gets a normal, low level boost mixture. This then causes the engine to slow down and idle normally again. At that point the engine is again sucking air at close to atmospheric pressure whereupon it speeds up again because of the lean condition and thus causing the blower to become functional again. It's a vicious cycle. If you see your engine surging up and down its caused by an induction leak. Frank N9110M


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    Time: 07:31:51 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: trip to MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 7/21/2003 7:45:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rmfitz@direcway.com writes: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> > > Jim, > If you get this far and run out of daylight or weather you can stay over @ > Corn Field. Craig's been here. > bob > Will definitely keep you in mind Bob. Thanks. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.


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    Time: 07:39:23 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Letter to the editor
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Well I just received my latest issue of warbirds and unfortunately I was not suprised to see that the Yak Pilots Association and their formation clinic out of MTW wasnt mentioned in your "from the co's cockpit" editorial. You seemed to know about all the North American and L-39 outings but not a peep about ours. I'm sure its possible that you didnt know, but they've been staging from there for some years now. You cant miss them, they're those really big formations at Sun& Fun and Air Venture every year that darken the skys in prefect symmetry outnumbering all the other formations. What is it about the Warbird leadership that makes you constantly snub the Yaks and CJ's? Is it that we are the fastest growing warbird segment in the country, or is it that only real warbirds were made by North American and Grumman. I'm sure its not the fact that they're from communist countries because you give the L-39 guys lots of attention. Maybe you're just sore that our planes are easy to maintain, sipp very small amounts of fuel, and manuvers well and sounds great, and all for under $80k. I can understand your resenment at all these "Cheap" planes invading your shows, kinda like having trailer trash move in next door. I'm sorry I didnt have a spare Million to go buy myself a Mustang, and I really couldnt afford the oil bill for a T6. Maybe you guys should change the name to "EAA American Warbirds and L-39 guys" and we can have "EAA Warbirds that the other guys dont like" Then we can have our very own section at Air Venture, even though it may be in Fon Du Loc or someplace even more remote, like the YAK parking area at last years Air Venture. Sincerely Ernest Martinez YPA, CJAA, EAA, WOA, IAC member


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    Time: 07:44:36 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Letter to the editor
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com ouch! Remind me to never get you mad at me Ernie. ;-) Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.


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    Time: 07:49:11 PM PST US
    From: FamilyGage@aol.com
    Subject: Letter
    --> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com Ernie, Good job on your letter. Just saw that Jim agreed. For once he would not be on the EAA hot seat. We need more members to speak out because we are not only the present, but the future! By the way, Jim are you still planning on leaving on Saturday with Craig. I hope to leave on Sunday with my daughter. Let me know. Ray Gage


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    Time: 08:01:29 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: oops
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Never mind, I made it to page 36. Thanks Ernie


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    Time: 08:05:33 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Letter
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Well guys, A lesson to be learned is that you should read the entire magazine first before sending a letter to the editor, there is a story by Jim Goolsby on Page 36, and then another story about Bushi Chengs by Bud Davisson airplane on page 38. So as usual, I insert foot in mouth. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: <FamilyGage@aol.com> Subject: Yak-List: Letter > --> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com > > Ernie, > Good job on your letter. Just saw that Jim agreed. For once he would not be > on the EAA hot seat. We need more members to speak out because we are not > only the present, but the future! > By the way, Jim are you still planning on leaving on Saturday with Craig. I > hope to leave on Sunday with my daughter. Let me know. > Ray Gage > >


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    Time: 08:07:07 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Letter to the editor
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Oh it just keeps getting better, Theres a full page pic of a Yak 52 on the back cover. Ernie


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    Time: 08:11:11 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Letter to the editor
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Dear Mike, I'd like to apologize for my last email, since I didnt read the entire magazine and failed to notice not 1 but 2 articles devoted to yaks and CJ's but and then the kicker, a full page photo of a Yak 52 on the rear cover. I'll remove my shoe from my mouth later Embarrased, Ernest Martinez


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    Time: 09:01:38 PM PST US
    From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Depression #6
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> Brian, Glad to see you are no longer in the Cross Hairs of Depression #6 - I had a slot waiting for your bird - will be there for the next time too...:) By the way, does this mean that its going for Miami... Gee, this Hurricane season is almost as welcome as my ex in-laws attorney. Cheers, Sam --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > Well troops, > Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to build > into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by early > Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, even as > just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the Mississippi Valley > northward. Yeah, it looks like we may have dodged the bullet down here. Thank you everyone who offered to help. > This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ Which means it stands a chance of being right. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4




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