---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/06/03: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: YPA Transitional Brief (Gus Fraser) 2. 04:51 AM - Re: YPA Transitional Brief (Gus Fraser) 3. 06:05 AM - Re: YPA Transitional Brief (Drew Blahnick) 4. 06:09 AM - Re: YPA Transitional Brief (Drew Blahnick) 5. 11:42 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 08/05/03 (Skipsly@aol.com) 6. 12:12 PM - Tachs, transitions, ACEs (Barry Hancock) 7. 01:16 PM - wheedler? (Barry Hancock) 8. 01:53 PM - Head set (owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com) 9. 02:05 PM - Re: (Genzlinger, Reade) 10. 02:22 PM - Re: (Bob Monzo) 11. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: (owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com) 12. 03:49 PM - Re: (Lee Taylor) 13. 05:07 PM - Buddy System (cpayne@joimail.com) 14. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: (Brian Lloyd) 15. 06:38 PM - Re: YPA Transitional Brief (Gus Fraser) 16. 07:57 PM - YPA Transitional Brief (Frank Haertlein) 17. 08:30 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 08/05/03 (John W Finley) 18. 08:36 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 08/04/03 (John W Finley) 19. 08:54 PM - Re: Tach Question (Yakjock) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:12 AM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" Drew, I did not see the briefing at OSH. Reading through the notes I was struck by the lack of mention of aerobatics in the document. Now I know that you intend to cover this at clinics as happened when Sergi was at MTW, why not say so. It gives the impression of a formation only group which I know is not your intention. Personally I have no real interest in doing mass formations but Ii would like my organization help me through the ACE and performance hoops Hope this helps Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick Subject: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" Folks, As promised, I've provided interested parties with detailed information on the Transitional Brief given at MTW at: http://www.allredstar.com/The_Cockpit.asp I hope this answers questions and please, e-mail me directly off list with your feedback, positive and negative and I will address your issues if any. Thanks, Drew Drew Blahnick YPA/Red Star 310.386.9181 "Communism: Lousy Politics - Excellent Airplanes!" ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:12 AM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" Just one more category to consider to increase the diversity. There are a lot of other types that are fitting the M14P engine, Pitts S12, Sherpa etc etc (Pitts S12, what a plane I WANT ONE) Being a member or an associate member of ARSAOA would be of use if I were behind one of these engines as there is information in ARSAOA that would be useful for me if I had one of these aircraft. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick Subject: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" Folks, As promised, I've provided interested parties with detailed information on the Transitional Brief given at MTW at: http://www.allredstar.com/The_Cockpit.asp I hope this answers questions and please, e-mail me directly off list with your feedback, positive and negative and I will address your issues if any. Thanks, Drew Drew Blahnick YPA/Red Star 310.386.9181 "Communism: Lousy Politics - Excellent Airplanes!" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:47 AM PST US From: "Drew Blahnick" Subject: Re: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" Gus, Man, two great ideas. First, your right, aerobatics is high on the list, we've worked "stupidly hard" for two years to get them at Castle for ARS (we were finally approved by all parties for 2004), I only mentioned aerobatics twice in the briefing and neither was to really adress it. Expect un update to the brief... [M-14] Associate membership is right on target, we have Vladimir at the clinics, that alone is a good reason I would join/attend an event to keep this Eastern Block motor heading in the right direction. Associate members is an excellent way to have something like RS widely recognized in aviation among "North American" owner/aviators... Keep sending ideas, they don't add 'work' Thanks Gus! Drew Drew Blahnick YPA/Red Star AoA Cell310-386-9181 www.allredstar.com "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" > > Just one more category to consider to increase the diversity. > > There are a lot of other types that are fitting the M14P engine, Pitts S12, > Sherpa etc etc (Pitts S12, what a plane I WANT ONE) Being a member or an > associate member of ARSAOA would be of use if I were behind one of these > engines as there is information in ARSAOA that would be useful for me if I > had one of these aircraft. > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick > To: Yak-list > Subject: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > Folks, > > As promised, I've provided interested parties with detailed information on > the Transitional Brief given at MTW at: > > http://www.allredstar.com/The_Cockpit.asp > > I hope this answers questions and please, e-mail me directly off list with > your feedback, positive and negative and I will address your issues if any. > > Thanks, > Drew > > > Drew Blahnick > YPA/Red Star > 310.386.9181 > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Excellent Airplanes!" > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:04 AM PST US From: "Drew Blahnick" Subject: Re: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" Also, I've recruited a local ACE who flys "Wardog" (John, T-6), really nice guy to attend for an ACE program brief. We also have waivered airspace and thus I believe he can conduct an evaluation at ARS 04. He does the airshow circuit for a living so if ARS falls on his show, he will have to pass. If anyone has an alternate who would like to attend ARS, please pass it on, early May 2004. Drew Drew Blahnick YPA/Red Star AoA Cell310-386-9181 www.allredstar.com "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" > > Drew, > I did not see the briefing at OSH. Reading through the notes I was struck by > the lack of mention of aerobatics in the document. Now I know that you > intend to cover this at clinics as happened when Sergi was at MTW, why not > say so. It gives the impression of a formation only group which I know is > not your intention. > > Personally I have no real interest in doing mass formations but Ii would > like my organization help me through the ACE and performance hoops > > Hope this helps > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick > To: Yak-list > Subject: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > Folks, > > As promised, I've provided interested parties with detailed information on > the Transitional Brief given at MTW at: > > http://www.allredstar.com/The_Cockpit.asp > > I hope this answers questions and please, e-mail me directly off list with > your feedback, positive and negative and I will address your issues if any. > > Thanks, > Drew > > > Drew Blahnick > YPA/Red Star > 310.386.9181 > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Excellent Airplanes!" > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:56 AM PST US From: Skipsly@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 08/05/03 --> Yak-List message posted by: Skipsly@aol.com In a message dated 08/06/2003 3:59:29 AM Atlantic Daylight Time, yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > I use a extra small scuba tank that I just put in the baggage area of my > 55m. Works great. I get about 3 complete system refills from it. > Or you can snoop around your local fire department and wheedle a small fireman's air bottle. Just like a scuba bottle but designed to carry air vice O2. Skip Slyfield ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:02 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Tachs, transitions, ACEs From: Barry Hancock --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock Just thought I'd add my comments on a few subjects that are near and dear to me. First, the Horizon tach is a good piece of equipment. As Frank mentioned it takes a little getting used to but provides much more info than a normal tach. Since it senses pulses off of the P-leads it is very easy to install (4 wires total) and is solid state. Throwing out that tach generator is a nice feeling as well. ++++++++++++++++++++ Drew and I travelled to OSH together and the vast majority of our time was spent discussing the various aspects of the YPA, his transitional brief, and the vision for the future. Most of you know that I have been deeply involved in the community from the time I bought my first CJ nearly 4 years ago. In that time I have logged almost 400 hours in the CJ, been two OSH 3 times, Red Star twice, SnF once, and attended about a half dozen other various formations clinics. I, like the rest of us, want to see our organization be all that it can be. Drew's passion and concern for the community leaves little room for doubt about his motivations. In fact we have discussed and agreed that I will be the Event Director for All Red Star next year so as to avoid any perceived conflict of interest between the two entities. Bottom line is this community deserves more than it is getting right now and the only way we are going to get to where we should be is by reinforcing our strengths and addressing our weaknesses. Drew's vision for the future of this community will go a long way in getting us there. +++++++++++++++++++ As for Gus's comments about adding to the diversity of the group, that's what Red Star AoA and All Red Star are about. As many of you know, I just acquired an Interavia I-3 and am involved in aerobatics. You can be sure I'll do what I can to get the Acro mounts a place in the sun within Red Star AoA. :) +++++++++++++++++++ Drew mentioned an ACE evaluator in our local area that will be available at All Red Star 2004. We have another one as well. Eddie Andreini, who performed at OSH in his Stearman this year, also flies a Yak-3 in airshows. He is scheduled to be at RS 2004 also and I will contact him to see if he will make himself available for evals - he wants to use the box too! :) It is my understanding that ACE evaluations require waivered airspace and we will have that at RS 2004. Also, for those of you wanting a better understanding of the ACE process, we have a few among us that are ACE qualified and I'm sure would be happy to discuss the process. Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Director of Operations Red Stars, Inc. 949.300.5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:53 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: wheedler? From: Barry Hancock --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock > Or you can snoop around your local fire department and wheedle a small > fireman's air bottle. Just like a scuba bottle but designed to carry > air vice O2. > > Skip Slyfield Say it isn't you, Skip! Navy instructor, Delta Captain, CJ Stan Officer, and wheedler? Naaaahhh.... Barry Hancock Director of Operations Red Stars, Inc. 949.300.5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes" ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:15 PM PST US From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com --> Yak-List message posted by: From: Aubrey Price Subject: Head set I have a YAK 52. Will the Bose noise canceling aircraft headsets work with the Russian radio and intercom? If not, does anyone make a box to match the impedance? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:45 PM PST US From: "Genzlinger, Reade" Subject: Yak-List: RE: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Genzlinger, Reade" They are a great match for the Yak-52. I hard wired the Bose jack kit front and back and have 5 years of no fault service so far. Reade Genzlinger Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation 215.914.0370 215.790.6212 fax readeg@cairnwood.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Subject: {SPAM?} Header --> Yak-List message posted by: From: Aubrey Price Subject: Head set I have a YAK 52. Will the Bose noise canceling aircraft headsets work with the Russian radio and intercom? If not, does anyone make a box to match the impedance? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:08 PM PST US From: "Bob Monzo" Subject: Yak-List: Re: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Monzo" Now why would you want to totally drown out the beautiful sound of that engine? In my experience, passive headsets work fine eliminating just enough of that wonderful sound to keep my ears from bleeding. Round engine noise is part of the total Yak experience, just like pulling blades, adding oil, figuring out the air system, etc. Besides a slight hearing impairment can be a real advantage at home and at the office. Fly Safe, Bob M. ----- Original Message ----- From: > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > From: Aubrey Price > To: "'yak-list@matronics.com'" > Subject: Head set > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:52:35 -0500 > > I have a YAK 52. Will the Bose noise canceling aircraft headsets work with > the Russian radio and intercom? If not, does anyone make a box to match the > impedance? > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:57 PM PST US From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com --> Yak-List message posted by: From: Aubrey Price Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: I have enjoyed soo much great noise from airplanes and helos that I have no hearing above 3000 cycles and it's not good below 3000. Just trying to make it last another 20 years. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Monzo [mailto:yakpilot@wideopenwest.com] Subject: Yak-List: Re: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Monzo" Now why would you want to totally drown out the beautiful sound of that engine? In my experience, passive headsets work fine eliminating just enough of that wonderful sound to keep my ears from bleeding. Round engine noise is part of the total Yak experience, just like pulling blades, adding oil, figuring out the air system, etc. Besides a slight hearing impairment can be a real advantage at home and at the office. Fly Safe, Bob M. ----- Original Message ----- From: > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > From: Aubrey Price > To: "'yak-list@matronics.com'" > Subject: Head set > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:52:35 -0500 > > I have a YAK 52. Will the Bose noise canceling aircraft headsets work with > the Russian radio and intercom? If not, does anyone make a box to match the > impedance? > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:43 PM PST US From: "Lee Taylor" Subject: Yak-List: RE: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" Aubrey: Don't know exactly how they will work with your Yak, but I LOVE my two Lightspeed ANR headsets. They are far and away the most comfortable and LIGHTWEIGHT of any that I have ever worn, the battery box is much better than any other I have tried, (just uses two common AA's), and the noise canceling is excellent. I bought my first one at Oshkosh several years ago, had Dave Clarks in the 180. Tried the Lightspeed on the way home, and WAS NOT IMPRESSED. "Humph", was my comment. Then I put my Clarks back on. TORE THEM OFF IN A HURRY, and put the Lightspeeds back on! THEN I was REAL impressed! Been wearing them ever since. Like you, too many years of enjoying the noise. Lee Taylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Subject: --> Yak-List message posted by: From: Aubrey Price Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: I have enjoyed soo much great noise from airplanes and helos that I have no hearing above 3000 cycles and it's not good below 3000. Just trying to make it last another 20 years. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:49 PM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Buddy System --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" "Buddy System", as it used to be called in the old corps, Lead and Wingman by another name. The recent tragic loss of Wright and the Hughes replica seems to be part of a continuing story of aircraft and pilots lost on the way back home from Oshkosh while solo. Instead of my usual solo "crossing" from Florida to the North, and vice-versa; I flew up as "Pappy's" GIB and back as his wingman for OSH. It was a much more enjoyable trip than my April "crossing" and probably a safer one with two sets of eyes on the sky and ears on the comm, etc. Mutual support, it works, combat tested also. Did I mention that there are fun parts too? Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:23 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Bob Monzo wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Monzo" > > Now why would you want to totally drown out the beautiful sound of that > engine? In my experience, passive headsets work fine eliminating just > enough of that wonderful sound to keep my ears from bleeding. Round engine > noise is part of the total Yak experience, just like pulling blades, adding > oil, figuring out the air system, etc. Besides a slight hearing impairment > can be a real advantage at home and at the office. Noise canceling headsets greatly reduce the low-frequency engine and prop noise so you can hear all the other stuff you really need to hear, like that pneumatic system leak, excessive valve lash, or an exhaust leak. Also, a good headset reduces hearing loss. There is no upside to hearing loss. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:20 PM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" On the east coast we have one of the best ACEs around Bill Finnegan. I will approach him. In September Gennady Elfimov is coming to the US. He will be doing sessions at Doyles town PA and elsewhere. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick Subject: Re: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" Gus, Man, two great ideas. First, your right, aerobatics is high on the list, we've worked "stupidly hard" for two years to get them at Castle for ARS (we were finally approved by all parties for 2004), I only mentioned aerobatics twice in the briefing and neither was to really adress it. Expect un update to the brief... [M-14] Associate membership is right on target, we have Vladimir at the clinics, that alone is a good reason I would join/attend an event to keep this Eastern Block motor heading in the right direction. Associate members is an excellent way to have something like RS widely recognized in aviation among "North American" owner/aviators... Keep sending ideas, they don't add 'work' Thanks Gus! Drew Drew Blahnick YPA/Red Star AoA Cell310-386-9181 www.allredstar.com "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" > > Just one more category to consider to increase the diversity. > > There are a lot of other types that are fitting the M14P engine, Pitts S12, > Sherpa etc etc (Pitts S12, what a plane I WANT ONE) Being a member or an > associate member of ARSAOA would be of use if I were behind one of these > engines as there is information in ARSAOA that would be useful for me if I > had one of these aircraft. > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick > To: Yak-list > Subject: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > Folks, > > As promised, I've provided interested parties with detailed information on > the Transitional Brief given at MTW at: > > http://www.allredstar.com/The_Cockpit.asp > > I hope this answers questions and please, e-mail me directly off list with > your feedback, positive and negative and I will address your issues if any. > > Thanks, > Drew > > > Drew Blahnick > YPA/Red Star > 310.386.9181 > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Excellent Airplanes!" > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:20 PM PST US From: "Frank Haertlein" Subject: Yak-List: YPA Transitional Brief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" Per Drew's The MTW/OSH Transitional Brief......... These are MANDATORY items if you fly in an association funded, managed, sponsored event or flight. 1. Parachutes 2. Nomex Flight Suit 3. No open toed shoes Drew, yaksters; As far as I know the Yak group is the only group I know of that requires #2 of your requirements....ie, a Nomex Flight Suit in order to be included in All Red Star activities. What's up with that? I understand the safety implications but then why do other fast groups not require it? Fer cryin' out loud...we're not involved in combat activities here! If it's an image kind of thing then you are in fact being exclusive. I'm open to your reasoning on this issue. Frank N9110M ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:44 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 08/05/03 From: John W Finley --> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley Al, I have two Horizon P-1000 tach's in my CJ. They work fine and I think far superior to the originals. Horizon also makes a 336 series tach that will fit a 21/4 or 2" panel hole. John ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:58 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 08/04/03 From: John W Finley --> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley Folks, I know that the dates for the Ruidoso, NM clinic in the YPA "Warbird Flyer" are obsolete, so here's the poop.....Sept. 21 through 25th at SRR. Also, some of you have changed e-mail addresses so my mails have been returned. When you can, please update your addresses with me. I'll also post notices on the YAK list.....Thanks, john Finley ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:38 PM PST US From: "Yakjock" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tach Question --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" Al, I use the Horizon Istruments digital in my planes. Does a good job, also doubles as a Hobbs meter and will tell you if the performance of your mags starts to differ. Hal