Yak-List Digest Archive

Fri 08/15/03


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 05:40 AM - Name Change (cpayne@joimail.com)
     2. 05:46 AM - Re: Name Change (A. Dennis Savarese)
     3. 05:53 AM - Re: Name Change (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 05:55 AM - Re: Name Change (FOUGAPILOT@aol.com)
     5. 05:59 AM - Re: Name Change (Terry Calloway)
     6. 06:02 AM - Re: Name Change (A. Dennis Savarese)
     7. 09:05 AM - Re: Name Change (William Halverson)
     8. 09:34 AM - Re: Name Change (Ernie)
     9. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Name Change (Mark Schrick)
    10. 10:37 AM - Re: Aircraft Insurance (Ron)
    11. 10:49 AM - Re: Name Change (Doug)
    12. 11:59 AM - Nomex (FamilyGage@aol.com)
    13. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: Name Change (Mark Schrick)
    14. 12:35 PM - Re: Name Change (Lee Taylor)
    15. 12:48 PM - Re: Name Change (Walt Fricke)
    16. 01:15 PM - Duty (Wes Warner)
    17. 01:36 PM - Re: Name Change (Ernie)
    18. 01:45 PM - Re: Aircraft Insurance (Roy O. Wright)
    19. 02:08 PM - Re: Name Change (DaBear)
    20. 02:45 PM - Re: Duty (Gus Fraser)
    21. 02:51 PM - Stupid names (Gus Fraser)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:40:54 AM PST US
    From: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> Yesterday's post was the first time I actually saw the proposed name change. Yes I missed Drew's presentation because it was Not in Oshkosh but over in Manitowoc, late into the week after Oshkosh started. I would hate to see this name change turn into another Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak Pilot's Association". Hell, I still have Yak Pilot's CLUB" patches on some of my Genuine NOMEX flight suits and now I have to buy a new set of patches for the 5 suits I keep for GIBs. Craig "Florida Hanging Chadster" Payne


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    Time: 05:46:37 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote on that one. Dennis p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. ----- Original Message ----- From: <cpayne@joimail.com> Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> > > Yesterday's post was the first time I actually saw the > proposed name change. Yes I missed Drew's presentation > because it was Not in Oshkosh but over in Manitowoc, late > into the week after Oshkosh started. > > I would hate to see this name change turn into another > Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change > to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak > Pilot's Association". Hell, I still have Yak Pilot's CLUB" > patches on some of my Genuine NOMEX flight suits and now I > have to buy a new set of patches for the 5 suits I keep for > GIBs. > > Craig "Florida Hanging Chadster" Payne > >


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    Time: 05:53:39 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Plus, not all pilots of Redstar aircraft are necessarily owners (AoA). More appropriate to use "Pilots Association" versus "Aircraft Owners Association". And we don't want to copy AOPA with Redstar Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association or RAOPA (yuk!) Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote on > that one. > Dennis > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > > Yesterday's post was the first time I actually saw the > > proposed name change. Yes I missed Drew's presentation > > because it was Not in Oshkosh but over in Manitowoc, late > > into the week after Oshkosh started. > > > > I would hate to see this name change turn into another > > Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change > > to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > > scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak > > Pilot's Association". Hell, I still have Yak Pilot's CLUB" > > patches on some of my Genuine NOMEX flight suits and now I > > have to buy a new set of patches for the 5 suits I keep for > > GIBs. > > > > Craig "Florida Hanging Chadster" Payne > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:55:56 AM PST US
    From: FOUGAPILOT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: FOUGAPILOT@aol.com Well said. Dan "lucky flyer non owner" Fortin


    Message 5


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    Time: 05:59:56 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> True, but I prefer simply Red Star Assocaiation. It will keep the patches smaller too. :) tc >>> adsavar@gte.net 8/15/2003 7:51:22 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" < adsavar@gte.net > Plus, not all pilots of Redstar aircraft are necessarily owners (AoA). More appropriate to use "Pilots Association" versus "Aircraft Owners Association". And we don't want to copy AOPA with Redstar Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association or RAOPA (yuk!) Dennis


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    Time: 06:02:59 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Good point Terry. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> > > True, but I prefer simply Red Star Assocaiation. It will keep the > patches smaller too. :) > tc > > >>> adsavar@gte.net 8/15/2003 7:51:22 AM >>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" < adsavar@gte.net > > > > Plus, not all pilots of Redstar aircraft are necessarily owners (AoA). > More > appropriate to use "Pilots Association" versus "Aircraft Owners > Association". And we don't want to copy AOPA with Redstar Aircraft > Owners > and Pilots Association or RAOPA (yuk!) > Dennis > >


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    Time: 09:05:10 AM PST US
    From: William Halverson <william@netpros.net>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william@netpros.net> Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ names on its recall ballot] Halverson A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote on > that one. > Dennis > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> >> >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak >>Pilot's Association".


    Message 8


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    Time: 09:34:46 AM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls off the tongue nicely. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william@netpros.net> > > Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. > > Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ names > on its recall ballot] Halverson > > > A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote on > > that one. > > Dennis > > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> > >> > >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another > >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change > >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak > >>Pilot's Association". > >


    Message 9


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    Time: 10:03:35 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> "Redstar" as one word is smart and it does sound better and I can't wait for the new patch design. Redstar Pilot Association (RPA) does sound and look good. You have my vote for that name. Mark "Shrek" Schrick Other memeber comments on the name change: >I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls >off the tongue nicely. >> Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. >> >> > >> > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote on that one. >> > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. >> >> >> >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another >> >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change >> >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of >> >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak >> >>Pilot's Association". >>So does "Chineese AG Spayers Association or Chinese >Censna Owners work also? > > Mark Schrick 966 Wallace Drive San Jose, CA 95120 (408) 323-5150(H) or (408) 391-6664 (Car)


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    Time: 10:37:09 AM PST US
    From: "Ron" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft Insurance
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron" <l39parts@hotmail.com> So the insurance company thinks it can weasel out of paying for hail damage if your medical is expired? Sounds like a fine organization to do business with. As for declining coverage, did you mean denying a claim? Insurance companies usually don't ask too many questions when you get the policy because that would mean returning the check. They check up on you (rightly) on the statements concerning your experience and qualifications before the write a check. This helps keep rates low for honest pilots by letting the 200 hour guys who claim to have 1005 hours pay into the insurance fund but not collect. Questioning the status of your medical or condition inspection though seems like an unwarranted snooping since neither would have any effect on the falling of hail or the damage to the plane. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Subject: Yak-List: Aircraft Insurance > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> > > A couple of brief thoughts: > > Insurance companies are in the business of spreading risk not taking it. A well run company will spread the cost of losses among its policyholders as well as the cost of building a reasonable reserve to cover exceptional losses. The lower our losses over time, the lower our costs. Conversely, if losses increase the companies should charge more, not exit the market. We are all in this together. > > Secondly, it is up to each of us to keep ourselves insurable. If one's medical, BFR, aircraft annual or other flight requirement is not current it is probable that the company will decline coverage. I'm discussing some light hail damage with the insurance company. The first thing they wanted to look at was my and the airplane's currency. > > BTW, both Tom Johnson at Cannon and the insurance company have been great to work with. > > Hal > >


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    Time: 10:49:30 AM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> How bout Communist Recalcitrant American Pilots? "C.R.A.P"----sorta roll of the tongue nicely..... Webster's says "recalcitrant"--- obstinately defiant of authority or restraint, or difficult to manage, -- see "unruly" Seems to fit to fit many of our group. "if you aint a Redstar pilot, you aint C.R.A.P" It only stands to reason! This moniker has distinct possibilities, you could be on the ground and could truthfully say as the formation flew over, "Looks like C.R.A.P to me!". Yes, comrades we could take C.R.A.P to new heights, the sky and our imagination is our only limit! : ) Always yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls off the tongue > nicely. > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william@netpros.net> > > > > Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. > > > > Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ names > > on its recall ballot] Halverson > > > > > > A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > > > > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote > on > > > that one. > > > Dennis > > > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > <cpayne@joimail.com> > > >> > > >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another > > >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change > > >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > > >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak > > >>Pilot's Association". > > > > > >


    Message 12


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    Time: 11:59:23 AM PST US
    From: FamilyGage@aol.com
    Subject: Nomex
    --> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com Enough about Nomex! The formation rules only make good common sense. Flying close has certain hazards, as we have seen at OSH in bad weather and rain. In ten years of racing sports cars, S.C.C.A, TransAm, and IMSA there was no fear of broken bones; however, FIRE was always present. With two onboard Halon bottles, one directed on the engine and one on the driver with manual and impact switches I was still nervous. We had to have a full face DOT approved helmet, Nomex head-neck cover, three layer drivers suit, gloves, socks, and shoes. Talk about hot. Still this only gave the driver 45-60 seconds of protection. So wear your flight suit with all cotton tee shirt, socks, leather boots, and cotton underwear. Anyone who has spent time in a hospital E.R. or the burn center at Ft. Sam Houston, will never complain about personal protection during formation flying. Enjoy, but fly safely. Ray Gage


    Message 13


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    Time: 12:27:41 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> Doug, I'm changing my vote: You have way to much time on your hands my friend........ Great suggestion. Should go on the ballot. Mark "SHREK" Schrick Mark Schrick 966 Wallace Drive San Jose, CA 95120 (408) 323-5150(H) or (408) 391-6664 (Car) >--- Original Message --- >From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >Date: 8/15/03 9:45:26 AM > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > >How bout >Communist Recalcitrant American Pilots? "C.R.A.P"----sorta roll of the >tongue nicely..... > >Webster's says "recalcitrant"--- obstinately defiant of authority or >restraint, or difficult to manage, -- see "unruly" Seems to fit to fit >many of our group. > >"if you aint a Redstar pilot, you aint C.R.A.P" It only stands to reason! >This moniker has distinct possibilities, you could be on the ground and >could truthfully say as the formation flew over, "Looks like C.R.A.P to >me!". Yes, comrades we could take C.R.A.P to new heights, the sky and our >imagination is our only limit! : >) > > >Always yakin, >Doug Sapp > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> >> >> I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls off the tongue >> nicely. >> >> Ernie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net> >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change >> >> >> > --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william@netpros.net> >> > >> > Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. >> > >> > Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ names >> > on its recall ballot] Halverson >> > >> > >> > A. Dennis Savarese wrote: >> > >> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> >> > > >> > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote >> on >> > > that one. >> > > Dennis >> > > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> >> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >> > > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change >> > > >> > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" >> <cpayne@joimail.com> >> > >> >> > >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another >> > >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change >> > >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of >> > >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak >> > >>Pilot's Association". >> > >> > >> >> > >


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    Time: 12:35:24 PM PST US
    From: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
    Subject: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com> This guy I LIKE! :>)) Lee Taylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> How bout Communist Recalcitrant American Pilots? "C.R.A.P"----sorta roll of the tongue nicely..... Webster's says "recalcitrant"--- obstinately defiant of authority or restraint, or difficult to manage, -- see "unruly" Seems to fit to fit many of our group. "if you aint a Redstar pilot, you aint C.R.A.P" It only stands to reason! This moniker has distinct possibilities, you could be on the ground and could truthfully say as the formation flew over, "Looks like C.R.A.P to me!". Yes, comrades we could take C.R.A.P to new heights, the sky and our imagination is our only limit! : ) Always yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls off the tongue > nicely. > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson > > --> <william@netpros.net> > > > > Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. > > > > Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ > > names on its recall ballot] Halverson > > > > > > A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > > --> <adsavar@gte.net> > > > > > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my > > > vote > on > > > that one. > > > Dennis > > > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > <cpayne@joimail.com> > > >> > > >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another > > >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change to a > > >>minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > > >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak Pilot's > > >>Association". > > > > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 12:48:13 PM PST US
    From: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com> Doug, Do you smoke the flowers after you've killed them? Maybe you should read the label on the stuff you spray on them. You worry me sometimes. Doug <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" How bout Communist Recalcitrant American Pilots? "C.R.A.P"----sorta roll of the tongue nicely..... Webster's says "recalcitrant"--- obstinately defiant of authority or restraint, or difficult to manage, -- see "unruly" Seems to fit to fit many of our group. "if you aint a Redstar pilot, you aint C.R.A.P" It only stands to reason! This moniker has distinct possibilities, you could be on the ground and could truthfully say as the formation flew over, "Looks like C.R.A.P to me!". Yes, comrades we could take C.R.A.P to new heights, the sky and our imagination is our only limit! : ) Always yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls off the tongue > nicely. > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Halverson" > To: > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson > > > > Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. > > > > Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ names > > on its recall ballot] Halverson > > > > > > A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > > > > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote > on > > > that one. > > > Dennis > > > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > > > >> > > >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another > > >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change > > >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > > >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak > > >>Pilot's Association". > > > > > > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 01:15:59 PM PST US
    From: Wes Warner <wes@lppcs.com>
    Subject: Duty
    Mail-Followup-To: Wes Warner <wes@lppcs.com>, --> Yak-List message posted by: Wes Warner <wes@lppcs.com> Hi, A friend of mine is interested in buying a plane that's in Lithuania. He is concerned about how much the duty he'll have to pay is. Does anyone have any idea on this? The plane is about $90,000 Euro. Thanks, Wes -- Time to go to... Group Therapy.


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    Time: 01:36:42 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Thats the spirit, lets get some more good names that we can create acronyms around. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > > How bout > Communist Recalcitrant American Pilots? "C.R.A.P"----sorta roll of the > tongue nicely..... > > Webster's says "recalcitrant"--- obstinately defiant of authority or > restraint, or difficult to manage, -- see "unruly" Seems to fit to fit > many of our group. > > "if you aint a Redstar pilot, you aint C.R.A.P" It only stands to reason! > This moniker has distinct possibilities, you could be on the ground and > could truthfully say as the formation flew over, "Looks like C.R.A.P to > me!". Yes, comrades we could take C.R.A.P to new heights, the sky and our > imagination is our only limit! : > ) > > > Always yakin, > Doug Sapp > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls off the tongue > > nicely. > > > > Ernie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william@netpros.net> > > > > > > Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. > > > > > > Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ names > > > on its recall ballot] Halverson > > > > > > > > > A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > > > > > > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote > > on > > > > that one. > > > > Dennis > > > > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > > > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > > > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > > <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > >> > > > >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another > > > >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change > > > >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > > > >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak > > > >>Pilot's Association". > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:45:05 PM PST US
    From: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft Insurance
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org> Read your policy carefully, they usually have a clause that states they don't have to pay if you broke a FAR. Of course it's real hard to bust a plane without busting a FAR. Go figure. Have fun, Roy At 10:31 AM 8/15/2003 -0700, Ron wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron" <l39parts@hotmail.com> > >So the insurance company thinks it can weasel out of paying for hail damage >if your medical is expired? Sounds like a fine organization to do business >with. > >Questioning the status of your medical or condition inspection though seems >like an unwarranted snooping since neither would have any effect on the >falling of hail or the damage to the plane. ',,'',,'',,',,' Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer "Experience is the thing you get the moment after you needed to have it."


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    Time: 02:08:32 PM PST US
    From: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
    Subject: Re: Name Change
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org> I'll vote for that!!! Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > > How bout > Communist Recalcitrant American Pilots? "C.R.A.P"----sorta roll of the > tongue nicely..... > > Webster's says "recalcitrant"--- obstinately defiant of authority or > restraint, or difficult to manage, -- see "unruly" Seems to fit to fit > many of our group. > > "if you aint a Redstar pilot, you aint C.R.A.P" It only stands to reason! > This moniker has distinct possibilities, you could be on the ground and > could truthfully say as the formation flew over, "Looks like C.R.A.P to > me!". Yes, comrades we could take C.R.A.P to new heights, the sky and our > imagination is our only limit! : > ) > > > Always yakin, > Doug Sapp > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > I like it.............RPA........has a nice ring, rolls off the tongue > > nicely. > > > > Ernie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william@netpros.net> > > > > > > Redstar Pilot's Association ... I vote for that one, too. > > > > > > Bill [living in the wacky state of California, which now has 140+ names > > > on its recall ballot] Halverson > > > > > > > > > A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > > > > > > > I like it Craig. It's even better than Redstar AoA. You have my vote > > on > > > > that one. > > > > Dennis > > > > p.s I too have YPC patches on my genuine NOMEX flight suits. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > > > Subject: Yak-List: Name Change > > > > > > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > > <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > >> > > > >>I would hate to see this name change turn into another > > > >>Cal-i-Pornia Governor's election so I suggest keeping change > > > >>to a minimum. Change just enough to convey the widening of > > > >>scope: "Red Star Pilot's Association" in place of "Yak > > > >>Pilot's Association". > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:45:04 PM PST US
    From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Duty
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> I think, and I am not sure so tax people chip in. If it is imported to an importer in one state at cost... The tax is due at import. Then if that company sells it at fair market value to a person in another state then no tax is due. Gus "putting it out there" Fraser -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wes Warner Subject: Yak-List: Duty --> Yak-List message posted by: Wes Warner <wes@lppcs.com> Hi, A friend of mine is interested in buying a plane that's in Lithuania. He is concerned about how much the duty he'll have to pay is. Does anyone have any idea on this? The plane is about $90,000 Euro. Thanks, Wes -- Time to go to... Group Therapy.


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    Time: 02:51:49 PM PST US
    From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Stupid names
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> NOW THIS IS NOT A SERIOUS PROPOSAL for those who have difficulty telling the difference between reality and fantasy. How about this for a name :- S uper H eroes I n T ight E mergency S uits Then there could be a special wing for single seat aircraft called the little SHITES. Anyone remember the line from the Battle of Britain where the new pilot gets a roasting from the CO "Fledgling to Shite Hawk in one easy lesson". Gus Fraser




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