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1. 05:19 AM - Re: Name Change (JJEJR@aol.com)
2. 05:25 AM - More C.R.A.P. (cpayne@joimail.com)
3. 07:35 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 08/15/03 (John W Finley)
4. 07:38 AM - Fw: Re: Yak-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 08/15/03 (John W Finley)
5. 08:01 AM - Insurance (Tom Johnson)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: More C.R.A.P. (Brian Lloyd)
7. 10:16 AM - Re: Insurance (Lee Taylor)
8. 01:14 PM - Re: Nomex or .. Kermel (Stuart Mackereth)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: JJEJR@aol.com
Red Star Pilots Association has my Vote
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
C.R.A.P. kinda fits us, that's what's freeky. Them Real
warbird guys are always saying we are CRAP anyway.
I have heard my CJ called both a Russian "Piece of CRAP" as
well as a Chinese Piece of CRAP. Since my aircraft has a Yak
nose and CJ airframe with crappy paint, maybe it fits.
Goes like CRAP, try and catch me and all you'll get is oil
splatter and propwash off my crappy airplane.
But hey, CRAP could be confusing. Folks may wonder what the
acronym really stands for:
California Recalcitrant Airline Pilots ? (sorry Drew)
Better yet, all members could Mix 'n Match to make their own
patches for their Genuine NOMEX suit:
Select One: Communist, Chinese, Colonel, Completely,
Californian, Countrarious ---
Now another: Recalcitrant, Russian, Republican, Retired,
Retarded, Retreaded ---
The third: Aircraft, Airline, Aspiring, Aviator, Anonymous,
Alcoholic ----
And lastly: Pilot, Prisoner, Pensioner, Puke, Proletarian,
Phallic, Peasant ---
Craig "Completely Retired Anonymous Puke" Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 08/15/03 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
YPA sounds good to me.....Now that I have an IAR823 it could srand for
"Romanian Pilots Assn.???????..John
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Re: Yak-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 08/15/03 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
OOOPS! my typo...John
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 08/15/03
RPA sounds good to me.....Now that I have an IAR823 it could srand for
"Romanian Pilots Assn.???????..John
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
No blanket FAR exclusions anymore in aviation policies anymore.
But you did agree in writing on the application for insurance that you possess
a valid medical and BFR and have the qualifications you said you had when you
filled the application out. This was the basis for evaluation of the risk - although
it is a poor way to evaluate the risk, it's really all we've got.
You did fill out an appliaction didn't you? It's the basis of your contract. .
. .. and the judge, both attorneys and the jury will certainly get a copy .
. . .
The first step of any claim is what I call "Show and Tell".
This includes proof that you are the legal registered owner and have "Insurable
Interest".
Not a bad idea to keep copies of all your poop.
Ok, I can't resist, here's my input:
Redstar Aircraft Pilots and Enthusiats - - Wait that's no good, scratch that.
U.S.S.R. -- United States Society of Redstaraircraft
P.I.N.K.O. - Pilots In . .. . . . . . .. . . . . scratch that too,
Imported Military Aircraft Association (kinda bland, but very inclusive)
Tj
Yak 52
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| Subject: | Re: More C.R.A.P. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
cpayne@joimail.com wrote:
> Select One: Communist, Chinese, Colonel, Completely,
> Californian, Countrarious ---
Confused ...
> Now another: Recalcitrant, Russian, Republican, Retired,
> Retarded, Retreaded ---
Rediculous ...
> The third: Aircraft, Airline, Aspiring, Aviator, Anonymous,
> Alcoholic ----
anal, attack ...
> And lastly: Pilot, Prisoner, Pensioner, Puke, Proletarian,
> Phallic, Peasant ---
prick ...
They seem to work in this context too while providing additional colorful variations
on a theme.
> Craig "Completely Retired Anonymous Puke" Payne
Right Craig!
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brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
RE: names. I think all you guys need to grab a rag and do some belly
cleaning. You all have too much time on your hands!
Lee Taylor
Ok, I can't resist, here's my input:
Redstar Aircraft Pilots and Enthusiats - - Wait that's no good, scratch
that.
U.S.S.R. -- United States Society of Redstaraircraft
P.I.N.K.O. - Pilots In . .. . . . . . .. . . . . scratch that
too,
Imported Military Aircraft Association (kinda bland, but very
inclusive)
Tj
Yak 52
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| Subject: | Nomex or .. Kermel |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Hi all
I was at an airshow at a local airbase today (Swartkops) - and lo and
behold - I found an airwear stall with dozens of Kermel and Nomex suits
hanging up for sale. Since I had just ordered 2 Kermal suits, I
immediately went over to chat to them - and ended up trying on both for
comparison - much to the embaressment of my wife and kids :-) who
finally disappeard as crowds grew.. who can stop us, eh? C.R.A.P. my
ass..!
They feel good. In fact, they feel great! Very, very soft in comparison
to Nomex. How they feel after sitting for 30 min in the baking sun at a
holding point waiting for takeoff approval will be the clincher :-)
Apparantly the story goes that the kermel suits are out of favour in the
US due to the "French" connection - but who knows.
Will keep you informed.
Regards
Stuart
About-to-be-a-yak-driver-but-not-yet-so-not-caught-up-with-the-RPA-YPA-d
ebate-:-) .. Yet.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
Mackereth
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nomex or .. Kermel
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth"
--> <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Thanks - After much reading, I've decided to go with Kermel and
guinea-pig it - hopefully will never have to 'test' it. I will at least
will give some feedback to y'all on whether it is more or less
comfortable in heat than Nomex.
Cheers
-
Stuart Mackereth
Cel: +27 (0) 83 456 8264
Office: +27 (0) 11 685 1200
Fax: +27 (0) 11 685 1203
stuart@bramptonyork.com
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roy O. Wright
yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nomex or .. Kermel
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
Here's a source for Kermel flightsuits. Priced about the same as new
Nomex (not e-bay).
http://www.airwear.co.za/productpage_fireresistant.php
Here's some interesting comments from their web site:
"As a minimum protection with a closed cockpit, avgas or jet fuel driven
aircraft/helicopter, we recommend to wear a suit made in 100% cotton.
The
best protection is a fire resistant Kermel or Nomex suit. With the
correct
fabric weight, a suit of this type will give excellent protection in the
event of a flash fire or to a person having to run through a fire.
"Over the years, we at Airwear, have found that a 230gr/m (~7 oz) is the
most effective fabric thickness to use. It offers very good fire
protection,
retains a reasonable amount of body heat in winter and is very
acceptable in
summer.
"Incidently cotton socks or at least a high cotton content pair of socks
and
leather shoes, preferably boot types, are of utmost importance. Sneakers
are
a definite no-no."
Have fun,
Roy
At 03:14 PM 8/12/2003 -0500, Roy O. Wright wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
>
>
>http://www.swicofil.com/kermel.html
>
>Have fun,
>Roy
>
>At 09:53 PM 8/12/2003 +0200, Stuart Mackereth wrote:
>>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth"
>>--> <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
>>
>>Hi
>>
>>Does anyone know about a material called Kermel? I've been told it is
>>as effective, or better, than Nomex - but lighter and crease free -
>>i.e. better for warmer climates. Apparantly it comes from France. A
>>local flightsuit manufacturer has tossed Nomex in favour of Kermel -
>>and I was wondering if anyone had experience with this new stuff,
>>before committing to an unknown fabric.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>-
>>Stuart Mackereth
>>Cel: +27 (0) 83 456 8264
>>Office: +27 (0) 11 685 1200
>>Fax: +27 (0) 11 685 1203
>>stuart@bramptonyork.com
>>
>>
>
>',,'',,'',,',,'
>Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com
>Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
>"Experience is the thing you get the moment after you needed to have
>it."
>
>
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Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
"Experience is the thing you get the moment after you needed to have
it."
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