---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/20/03: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:14 AM - Re: More Summer Mag Fun (Jim Ivey) 2. 09:34 AM - Re: More Summer Mag Fun (Ernie) 3. 10:41 AM - Re: More Summer Mag Fun (Jon Boede) 4. 01:39 PM - markings (Doug) 5. 01:45 PM - Re: More Summer Mag Fun (Brian Lloyd) 6. 01:48 PM - Re: More Summer Mag Fun (Brian Lloyd) 7. 02:34 PM - Flap Handles (Jeff Linebaugh) 8. 04:20 PM - Re: markings (ByronMFox@aol.com) 9. 05:33 PM - Re: Flap Handles (ron wasson) 10. 05:55 PM - Re: More Summer Mag Fun (Ernie) 11. 06:15 PM - Your details () 12. 06:41 PM - Your details () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:29 AM PST US From: Jim Ivey Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey When the mag switch is selected as "1" doesn't that mean that Mag 1 is not grounded? That way it can run, right? In other words the mag selected is the only one not grounded and 1+2 has them both "ungrounded". Therefore when selector is placed on "1" the p-lead on #1 should not be grounded and have no continuity with ground (rather than 0 ohms). I think. Jim Ernie wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > >I beleive 1 is the left mag if viewed from the cockpit. Its easy to figure >out though, just pop off the P-Lead from the mag and check it against ground >with a meter as you move the switch. 0 ohms is what you will see when that >mag is selected on the switch. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:48 AM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Yes, you are absolutely right. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ivey" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun > --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey > > When the mag switch is selected as "1" doesn't that mean that Mag 1 is > not grounded? That way it can run, right? In other words the mag > selected is the only one not grounded and 1+2 has them both > "ungrounded". Therefore when selector is placed on "1" the p-lead on #1 > should not be grounded and have no continuity with ground (rather than 0 > ohms). I think. > > Jim > > Ernie wrote: > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" > > > >I beleive 1 is the left mag if viewed from the cockpit. Its easy to figure > >out though, just pop off the P-Lead from the mag and check it against ground > >with a meter as you move the switch. 0 ohms is what you will see when that > >mag is selected on the switch. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun From: "Jon Boede" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" What manner of torture-the-student is intended by the ignition toggle switch in the rear seat? Just to see if they'll say something when they don't get a mag drop, or to surprise them when turning the mags to 0 doesn't shut down the airplane? Jon > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > Jon Boede wrote: >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" >> >> Soooo... I was doing a run-up on N36CJ and when I put the front Mag >> switch to "1" I got one "pop and drop" but, playing with it, that >> seemed to be a one-time event. > > Check the switch and p-lead wiring to the switch. Also remember that > the front mag switch is disabled by the toggle switch in the rear seat. > The rear seat mag switch is always active so you need to check it too. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:36 PM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Yak-List: markings --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" Who out there knows where I can find the insignia markings for the CJ. Is any one making them in vinyl? Best, Doug Sapp ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:54 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Jim Ivey wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey > > When the mag switch is selected as "1" doesn't that mean that Mag 1 is > not grounded? That way it can run, right? In other words the mag > selected is the only one not grounded and 1+2 has them both > "ungrounded". Therefore when selector is placed on "1" the p-lead on #1 > should not be grounded and have no continuity with ground (rather than 0 > ohms). I think. Correct. And also since the p-lead and the points are in parallel with the primary winding in the mag you can't measure whether the points or the mag switch are open or closed with an ohmmeter. It will show dead short. You need a mag timing light. You can also disconnect the p-lead from the mag and then use an ohmmeter on the p-lead wiring and mag switches. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:28 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Jon Boede wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" > > What manner of torture-the-student is intended by the ignition toggle > switch in the rear seat? Just to see if they'll say something when they > don't get a mag drop, or to surprise them when turning the mags to 0 > doesn't shut down the airplane? Probably to prevent the student from inadvertantly shutting down the engine at an inopportune moment, like on short final. You would be amazed at things a student will do. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:27 PM PST US From: "Jeff Linebaugh" Subject: Yak-List: Flap Handles --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" If we are really going to get a bunch of "handles" machined for the CJs, I have a suggestion....=0D =0D Lets get a "flap shaped" handle to replace the flap handle knob. Having the gear and flap handle the same can/has only caused trouble. With all the recent rash of gear mishaps we have had, any act like this could only serve us well in front of the jury (i.e. insurance underwriters).=0D =0D Jeff Linebaugh ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:03 PM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: markings --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com Jim Selby has a friend who has made vinyl star & bars. The star has the proper Chinese character in the center. They're excellent. Had a set put on the under side of my wings last winter. Can't remember the cost, but it was reasonable. ...Blitz ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Flap Handles From: ron wasson --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson Jeff I agree about shapes. The cost would be how many are made as machine setup is the time eater. What has me scared is radium from my hands or gloves that gets into my lungs. Low doses touching lung for a long time could be very bad. Paint is a good short term but it will wear with time and it only takes the tiniest amount radium to make you a clinical study. Ron ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:20 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" But if you disconnect the P-Lead from the mag then you could check it with an OHM meter. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Summer Mag Fun > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > Jim Ivey wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey > > > > When the mag switch is selected as "1" doesn't that mean that Mag 1 is > > not grounded? That way it can run, right? In other words the mag > > selected is the only one not grounded and 1+2 has them both > > "ungrounded". Therefore when selector is placed on "1" the p-lead on #1 > > should not be grounded and have no continuity with ground (rather than 0 > > ohms). I think. > > Correct. > > And also since the p-lead and the points are in parallel with the primary winding in the mag you can't measure whether the points or the mag switch are open or closed with an ohmmeter. It will show dead short. You need a mag timing light. You can also disconnect the p-lead from the mag and then use an ohmmeter on the p-lead wiring and mag switches. > > -- > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 > +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax > GMT-4 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:15:54 PM PST US From: Subject: Yak-List: Your details --> Yak-List message posted by: Please see the attached file for details. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:06 PM PST US From: Subject: Yak-List: Your details --> Yak-List message posted by: Please see the attached file for details.