---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/25/03: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: Parachutes (Brian Lloyd) 2. 07:30 AM - parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Brian Lloyd) 3. 08:26 AM - Russian Advice (Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com) 4. 08:33 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Lee Taylor) 5. 08:33 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Mike Plecenik) 6. 08:44 AM - Re: Russian Advice (Brian Lloyd) 7. 09:00 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Brian Lloyd) 8. 09:13 AM - Craig Payne please (Tom Johnson) 9. 09:56 AM - Re: The YPA web site (Doug) 10. 09:56 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Doug) 11. 09:56 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Lee Taylor) 12. 09:57 AM - Re: The YPA web site (Doug) 13. 09:57 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Doug) 14. 10:18 AM - Re: The YPA web site (Drew Blahnick) 15. 12:37 PM - Re: Mag Mystery Continues (Ernie) 16. 12:49 PM - Re: Parachutes (Ernie) 17. 01:14 PM - Re: Russian Advice (Ernie) 18. 01:32 PM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Stuart Mackereth) 19. 01:48 PM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (FOUGAPILOT@aol.com) 20. 02:56 PM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Brian Lloyd) 21. 03:37 PM - Re: The YPA web site (Jorgen Nielsen) 22. 09:28 PM - (no subject) (cjpilot710@aol.com) 23. 11:18 PM - Re: Parachutes (jackron@att.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:26 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Parachutes --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Frank Haertlein wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" > > T-boy; > What is the difference between "CHAIR PACK" and "SEAT PACK"? I think I > know what a seat pack looks like but I've never heard of a "CHAIR PACK". A chair pack is a hybrid of a seat pack and a back pack 'chute. It is a thin pack that stretches from your shoulders to your knees instead of being all on your back or all under your butt. If you are in an airplane that has room for neither type the chair pack spreads the bulk over most of your body and allows you and it to fit into a realatively smaller cockpit. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:55 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all wrong. When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc., we have been talking like these are technical decisions. The problem is, they aren't! These are psychological decisions based on the macho coolness factor (MCF) which has become totally ignored in the decision making process. I propose we move it to the forefront where it belongs. First let's talk about parachutes. If we leave out the Russian and Chinese 'chutes because of their questionable acceptance of the FAA we are left with really four major 'chute manufacturers here in the US: Manley Butler Paraphernalia "Softie" Strong National The National is the cheapest and most compact of the 'chutes. It is packed to the density of degenerate matter (what one would find in the core of a collapsed neutron star) so it sucks you butt muscles in and pulverizes them. You can sit on this 'chute for about 15 minutes before requiring medical care. This works for 25 year old acro competitors flying 10-minute hops but for old cross-country butts like ours, no way. That leaves the National out of the running. So how do you pick your 'chute from the remaining group? Well we can talk about features but it really comes down to something simpler and more straight-forward. You see, this is really a psychological choice and the hint is in the name. One is made by "Manl[e]y" Butler, one is "Strong" and one is "Softie". You will find that most Real Men with Fighter Pilot icewater in their veins opt for the "Manly" 'chute. The staid, solid pilot opts for the "strong" 'chute. Guys with callsigns like "Pinkie" opt for the "softie" 'chute. No worries. Once you understand this, the selection of a 'chute takes mere milliseconds since you no longer feel a need to justify your choice. Flight wear is another issue. When you are flying the last of the daytime gunfighters, e.g. F-86, F-11, etc.; there is absolutely no question about your manliness or fitness as a pilot. Every combat is a knife fight and the best *man* wins. (Sorry, ladies and girlie men need not apply.) Period, end of report. Flight wear is not an issue because one's manliness has already been decided. But consider the current state of the world. If you are a fighter pilot in today's military forces you go up and when combat is imminent you turn on the weapons system. Nowadays the funky 'P' shows up on the weapons display and your headset utters the computer-generated and distorted word "Playstation". Head down you manipulate the "joystick" and all those buttons on the electronic throttle control. If you do it right the display reads "Extra Game" and your headset plays the Star Wars march. Do it wrong and the last thing you hear is the mournful rising tone and see the words "Game Over." Not too manly that. Or worse yet, you are a shit-hot ... uh, sorry ... "Sierra Hotel" pilot and after UPT you get transferred to C-141s or CODs. Boooooring. No testosterone there. These poor bus drivers (who don't know that the weapons system in the F-22 was made by Sony) walk into the O-club and there are the F-22 drivers talking about "tactics" and "angles" and "vertical penetration". They don't realize that the discussion is really about how to get into the pants of that babe unit at the end of the bar, the one that has them so intimidated that they won't go anywhere near her. So what are the bus drivers going to do? Start talking up how well they nailed the localizer in their last hand-flown approach? Can you THINK of a faster way to be labeled a girlie man? (Let's not even TALK about these poor guys who get out and are now shagging the right seat of a 737 for Noservice Airlines.) So we need a way to keep the machismo on display. Enter Flight Wear! Flight Wear allows a pilot to retain his manliness when his flying won't. Nothing screams "I've got big brass ones" like a Nomex suit covered with patches. If you doubt me, just look at what the guys around you are wearing. The newbies whose last airplane before their Yak-52 or CJ6A was a C-172 have crisply-starched Nomex suits literally covered with patches that say things like "Safeway Grocery Airplane Day". Next consider the bus drivers with C-141 and COD experience. Their flight suits are a little older and a little plainer. They might even have a squadron patch. And on the subject of patches, trashhauler/MAC squadron patches are bigger, gaudier, and have more grotesque deaths-head symbols than fighter squadrons. The little fighter pilot squadron patches say "triple nickel" or "hat in the ring" while the transport command guys have patches that say "raw flesh eating, fire and vomit spewing, King Air drivers." Now lets consider the guys that flew F6Fs, F4Us, P-80s, F-86s, F9Fs, and F11Fs in combat. Not to pick on anyone but Randall Webb is a perfect example. He shows up in a CJ6A painted powder BLUE! He is wearing blue jeans and a button-down cotton shirt! No helmet adorns his head! What IS this! Well, he is completely secure in his self-image and knows that, deep down, there is a lot more similarity than difference between a CJ6A and a Beechcraft Bonanza. (Besides, he IS a sierra hotel pilot and if you are lucky you will fly with him in your back seat or on his wing during formation training but you didn't hear me say that.) And if you recall, I mentioned oil. This one is easy. Consider two people: one is sitting at a computer terminal in a laboratory wearing a clean white lab coat and glasses and muttering about viscosity coefficients, lubricity factors, and statistical samples while the other is up in the cowl of an R-2800 wearing an oil stained coverall with the name "Joe" (no one knows any of his other names anyway) stitched on the front and chomping on a stogie. Which one are you going to listen to when it comes to picking your oil? Damn straight! Joe wins by a country mile because he has seen and fixed it all and doesn't need no stinkin' lab report to know what oil works. So where am I going with all of this (besides being an equal-opportunity offender)? Well, I have a proposal to make! Something that the Red Star Pilots Association could really get into! Let's take a page from wildly successful televison and offer proper training in the form of "Queer Eye for the Pilot Guy!" We get a team of wildly studly pilots (perhaps dressed in tight black leather flight suits) to help the newcomer become properly attired so that when he gets his CJ6A or Yak-52 marshalled into the back forty of the warbird parking at OSH, back behind the Cessna Skymasters, Aeronca Champs, and Stinson Voyagers painted in military schemes, everyone will know he is a PILOT's PILOT as he gets out of that cockpit. We will have the guy who teaches you about and helps you pick out a flight suit. ("No, no silly, Nomex is the ONLY way. And you need to put that patch riiiight there. It is more slimming and besides, it doesn't clash quite so much with that patch.") Then there is the guy who nods thoughfully while chewing on an unlighted cigar as he instructs you on the finer points of selecting a fine mineral oil for your airplane. ("Well, if you are having 100LL I recommend a full-bodied, straight-weight Aeroshell 120W but if you are sipping auto fuel in the winter a multi-vis Phillips 25W60 is a better choice.") Additional experts will help you with decorating ... I mean paint schemes and nose art, avionics, and cockpit (oooh, I just LOVE that word) instrumentation. Never underestimate the machismo of vacuum-tube avionics and the ability to say, "I have a fire in the avionics bay so I am shutting down the electrical system and popping the bottle. I'll just follow your hand signals f rom now on," uttered in a bored drawl. Ernie Gann and Chuck Yaeger would be so proud! You know, if our Red Star Marketing Agent and Registered TV Personallity is on-the-ball, he can probably turn this into a prime-time reality TV show and really get the RSPA on the map! The FAA and TSA will really pay attention when this hits #1 on the Nielson ratings. Congress critters won't be able to wait to throw their weight our way especially if we offer to come out and campaign for them. But don't forget, you heard it from me first. I expect that from now on, when the flying is done for the day and we retire to the bar to "debrief" (as I unzip my mauve Kermel flightsuit about three inches to properly display my ascot), that I will never have to buy my own fruity boat drinks with the little parasols again. -- Brian "Pinkie/Sparky/turned-his-CJ-into-a-Mooney" Lloyd ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:04 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Russian Advice From: Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com 08/25/2003 11:25:41 AM --> Yak-List message posted by: Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com So, six days into working on my mag problem, grounded on the second day of a *perfect* flying weekend... one of the line guys comes up to talk to me since there's a good break in the parade of corporate jets coming into this Beechcraft dealer. He's parked me a few times, said "hi" and other things enough that I've noticed he has a Russian accent. He's generally been very nice to me and curious about the airplane. He says to me in a pretty thick accent, "I know what problem is." Really?! Tell me! He says that my engine has a bunch of crap in it, and if this was the Russia, they'd just to fly it hard and hot until it burned it out. I'd already run it up to climb power, maybe a little more, over at the blast pad and leaned it but good... but apparently that wasn't enough. So, with some trepidation, I went and took off, telling the tower I wanted to make a tight box at 2,000' AGL over the runway. Well, that fixed it. I'll be damned. I ran it hot, I ran it cold, I ran it rich, I ran it lean... I ran it at high power, I ran it at low power, I left it on "1", I left it on "2"... and no misses. Crimeny! I got back, ran it up on the blast pad under the conditions where it was being most annoying... and it runs fine. Runs better than ever -- maybe because I just swapped parts, squirted WD-40, and cleaned things half way to an overhaul. :-) Go figure. I tell this guy that I owe him some beer and he says that he'll take a ride instead. Get this... It turns out that he has a *bunch* of L-29, L-39, MiG-21, and MiG-23 time. But apparently that doesn't transfer from the Russian Air Force, so he'd driving the fuel truck to be around airplanes here instead. What a shame. Jon ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:15 AM PST US From: "Lee Taylor " Subject: RE: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " BOY, IT IS a good thing after all this long dissertation you named yourself at the end! MY chute is a Long Softie, and no one ever called me "Pinkie". Not after teaching inverted flat spins, and once made an absolutely vertical dive (for 47 seconds) in a T-33. But then, if we ever admitted it, it is all just little boys living up to an image, isn't it? The other point is that I may be wearing a "Pinkie" chute, but I can stand up straight after getting out of my cockpit! You "manly chute types" give a great impression stumbling around in your patch-covered Nomex flight suits and helmets, bent over double like old codgers holding your backs. Remember the poster of the really ancient old guy in the flight suit and helmet--"Sleep well, your National Guard is on duty!"? Great article, by the way, one of the very few I have ever read that actually is honest. LMAO! Lee Taylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all wrong. When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc., we have been talking like these are technical decisions. The problem is, they aren't! These are psychological decisions based on the macho coolness factor (MCF) which has become totally ignored in the decision making process. I propose we move it to the forefront where it belongs. First let's talk about parachutes. If we leave out the Russian and Chinese 'chutes because of their questionable acceptance of the FAA we are left with really four major 'chute manufacturers here in the US: Manley Butler Paraphernalia "Softie" Strong National The National is the cheapest and most compact of the 'chutes. It is packed to the density of degenerate matter (what one would find in the core of a collapsed neutron star) so it sucks you butt muscles in and pulverizes them. You can sit on this 'chute for about 15 minutes before requiring medical care. This works for 25 year old acro competitors flying 10-minute hops but for old cross-country butts like ours, no way. That leaves the National out of the running. So how do you pick your 'chute from the remaining group? Well we can talk about features but it really comes down to something simpler and more straight-forward. You see, this is really a psychological choice and the hint is in the name. One is made by "Manl[e]y" Butler, one is "Strong" and one is "Softie". You will find that most Real Men with Fighter Pilot icewater in their veins opt for the "Manly" 'chute. The staid, solid pilot opts for the "strong" 'chute. Guys with callsigns like "Pinkie" opt for the "softie" 'chute. No worries. Once you understand this, the selection of a 'chute takes mere milliseconds since you no longer feel a need to justify your choice. Flight wear is another issue. When you are flying the last of the daytime gunfighters, e.g. F-86, F-11, etc.; there is absolutely no question about your manliness or fitness as a pilot. Every combat is a knife fight and the best *man* wins. (Sorry, ladies and girlie men need not apply.) Period, end of report. Flight wear is not an issue because one's manliness has already been decided. But consider the current state of the world. If you are a fighter pilot in today's military forces you go up and when combat is imminent you turn on the weapons system. Nowadays the funky 'P' shows up on the weapons display and your headset utters the computer-generated and distorted word "Playstation". Head down you manipulate the "joystick" and all those buttons on the electronic throttle control. If you do it right the display reads "Extra Game" and your headset plays the Star Wars march. Do it wrong and the last thing you hear is the mournful rising tone and see the words "Game Over." Not too manly that. Or worse yet, you are a shit-hot ... uh, sorry ... "Sierra Hotel" pilot and after UPT you get transferred to C-141s or CODs. Boooooring. No testosterone there. These poor bus drivers (who don't know that the weapons system in the F-22 was made by Sony) walk into the O-club and there are the F-22 drivers talking about "tactics" and "angles" and "vertical penetration". They don't realize that the discussion is really about how to get into the pants of that babe unit at the end of the bar, the one that has them so intimidated that they won't go anywhere near her. So what are the bus drivers going to do? Start talking up how well they nailed the localizer in their last hand-flown approach? Can you THINK of a faster way to be labeled a girlie man? (Let's not even TALK about these poor guys who get out and are now shagging the right seat of a 737 for Noservice Airlines.) So we need a way to keep the machismo on display. Enter Flight Wear! Flight Wear allows a pilot to retain his manliness when his flying won't. Nothing screams "I've got big brass ones" like a Nomex suit covered with patches. If you doubt me, just look at what the guys around you are wearing. The newbies whose last airplane before their Yak-52 or CJ6A was a C-172 have crisply-starched Nomex suits literally covered with patches that say things like "Safeway Grocery Airplane Day". Next consider the bus drivers with C-141 and COD experience. Their flight suits are a little older and a little plainer. They might even have a squadron patch. And on the subject of patches, trashhauler/MAC squadron patches are bigger, gaudier, and have more grotesque deaths-head symbols than fighter squadrons. The little fighter pilot squadron patches say "triple nickel" or "hat in the ring" while the transport command guys have patches that say "raw flesh eating, fire and vomit spewing, King Air drivers." Now lets consider the guys that flew F6Fs, F4Us, P-80s, F-86s, F9Fs, and F11Fs in combat. Not to pick on anyone but Randall Webb is a perfect example. He shows up in a CJ6A painted powder BLUE! He is wearing blue jeans and a button-down cotton shirt! No helmet adorns his head! What IS this! Well, he is completely secure in his self-image and knows that, deep down, there is a lot more similarity than difference between a CJ6A and a Beechcraft Bonanza. (Besides, he IS a sierra hotel pilot and if you are lucky you will fly with him in your back seat or on his wing during formation training but you didn't hear me say that.) And if you recall, I mentioned oil. This one is easy. Consider two people: one is sitting at a computer terminal in a laboratory wearing a clean white lab coat and glasses and muttering about viscosity coefficients, lubricity factors, and statistical samples while the other is up in the cowl of an R-2800 wearing an oil stained coverall with the name "Joe" (no one knows any of his other names anyway) stitched on the front and chomping on a stogie. Which one are you going to listen to when it comes to picking your oil? Damn straight! Joe wins by a country mile because he has seen and fixed it all and doesn't need no stinkin' lab report to know what oil works. So where am I going with all of this (besides being an equal-opportunity offender)? Well, I have a proposal to make! Something that the Red Star Pilots Association could really get into! Let's take a page from wildly successful televison and offer proper training in the form of "Queer Eye for the Pilot Guy!" We get a team of wildly studly pilots (perhaps dressed in tight black leather flight suits) to help the newcomer become properly attired so that when he gets his CJ6A or Yak-52 marshalled into the back forty of the warbird parking at OSH, back behind the Cessna Skymasters, Aeronca Champs, and Stinson Voyagers painted in military schemes, everyone will know he is a PILOT's PILOT as he gets out of that cockpit. We will have the guy who teaches you about and helps you pick out a flight suit. ("No, no silly, Nomex is the ONLY way. And you need to put that patch riiiight there. It is more slimming and besides, it doesn't clash quite so much with that patch.") Then there is the guy who nods thoughfully while chewing on an unlighted cigar as he instructs you on the finer points of selecting a fine mineral oil for your airplane. ("Well, if you are having 100LL I recommend a full-bodied, straight-weight Aeroshell 120W but if you are sipping auto fuel in the winter a multi-vis Phillips 25W60 is a better choice.") Additional experts will help you with decorating ... I mean paint schemes and nose art, avionics, and cockpit (oooh, I just LOVE that word) instrumentation. Never underestimate the machismo of vacuum-tube avionics and the ability to say, "I have a fire in the avionics bay so I am shutting down the electrical system and popping the bottle. I'll just follow your hand signals f rom now on," uttered in a bored drawl. Ernie Gann and Chuck Yaeger would be so proud! You know, if our Red Star Marketing Agent and Registered TV Personallity is on-the-ball, he can probably turn this into a prime-time reality TV show and really get the RSPA on the map! The FAA and TSA will really pay attention when this hits #1 on the Nielson ratings. Congress critters won't be able to wait to throw their weight our way especially if we offer to come out and campaign for them. But don't forget, you heard it from me first. I expect that from now on, when the flying is done for the day and we retire to the bar to "debrief" (as I unzip my mauve Kermel flightsuit about three inches to properly display my ascot), that I will never have to buy my own fruity boat drinks with the little parasols again. -- Brian "Pinkie/Sparky/turned-his-CJ-into-a-Mooney" Lloyd ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:57 AM PST US From: "Mike Plecenik" Subject: Re: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike Plecenik" Brian - Don't know what brought that on or what you've been smoking but I enjoyed that post more than anything I've read on this list for the past few years. - Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all wrong. When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc., ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:03 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Russian Advice --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com wrote: > He says to me in a pretty thick accent, "I know what problem is." > > Really?! Tell me! > > He says that my engine has a bunch of crap in it, and if this was the > Russia, they'd just to fly it hard and hot until it burned it out. > ... > Well, that fixed it. I'll be damned. I ran it hot, I ran it cold, I ran > it rich, I ran it lean... I ran it at high power, I ran it at low power, I > left it on "1", I left it on "2"... and no misses. Crimeny! As our friend Russ is wont to say, "strong like ox, smart like tractor." Brute force either solves the problem or breaks it so completely that you then know what to fix. It is one approach to problem solving. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:09 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Lee Taylor wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " > > BOY, IT IS a good thing after all this long dissertation you named > yourself at the end! MY chute is a Long Softie, and no one ever called > me "Pinkie". My original call sign was "Pink Floyd" but that was quickly shortened to "pinky". Fortunately a chance encounter between my battery and the trim cable in my CJ6A earned my newer callsign "sparky". But what's in a name? > Not after teaching inverted flat spins, and once made an > absolutely vertical dive (for 47 seconds) in a T-33. I have never flown one except straight-and-level (aileron rolls count as straight and level) but I understand they had a tendency to tuck under if you were too agressive in pitch during upright spin recovery. Also, no matter how hard you push them, they just don't like to go sonic, do they. > But then, if we ever admitted it, it is all just little boys living up > to an image, isn't it? It seems so. But as long as we admit it and don't take ourselves too seriously we will probably do OK. > > > The other point is that I may be wearing a "Pinkie" chute, but I can > stand up straight after getting out of my cockpit! Hey, I like mine! > You "manly chute > types" give a great impression stumbling around in your patch-covered > Nomex flight suits and helmets, bent over double like old codgers > holding your backs. Remember the poster of the really ancient old guy > in the flight suit and helmet--"Sleep well, your National Guard is on > duty!"? It has always been one of my favorites. > Great article, by the way, one of the very few I have ever read that > actually is honest. And here I was just trying to gore as many oxes as I could. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:07 AM PST US From: "Tom Johnson" Subject: Yak-List: Craig Payne please --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" Calling Craig Payne. Please contact Tom Johnson I'm unable to reach by any regular channels. If anyone talks to him, please have him call me. Tom Johnson 800-851-2997 Tj ********************************** Thomas Johnson Senior Account Executive 1983 Yak 52 Tel: 800-851-2997 Fax: 480-951-1455 Cell: 602-628-2701 E: tjohnson@cannonaviation.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:13 AM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" Drew, Not true, some folks outside the US can pay via pay pal. My yak guys in AU and NZ sometimes pay in this manner but it is rather expensive for both parties. You can go to the pay pal web site to get the list of countries. Always yakin, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Blahnick" Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > Yes, under the new website I'm asking our web guru to solve this issue, we > will have to set something up for our international members....also, we are > going to field new logo material here over the winter (your summer) as Red > Star takes shape. For now, we should be able to take your order, determine > shipping costs and we can do a credit card transaction. > > First: > > 1. You can't pay through pay pal because you are not residing in the US, is > that right?? > > Believe me, I am looking at making our association International, so we will > fix this... > > Drew > Drew Blahnick > YPA/Red Star > Cell310-386-9181 > www.allredstar.com > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jorgen Nielsen" > To: > Subject: RE: Yak-List: The YPA web site > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > Message for Drew re website... > > > > Hi Drew > > > > Wanted to buy some goodies from the web site, but pay pal does not/will > not > > ship to South Africa - can you guys organise something? > > > > Jorgen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Yak-List: The YPA web site > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > > > Folks, > > > > The web YPA has a minor update allowing folks to access the Transition > Brief > > from the web site. > > > > Lori Edwards, our new web guru, is working on a new web site with added > > features for folks. > > > > I received the inputs on the name, overwhelmingly it was: Red Star Pilots > > Association, or RPA. > > > > We will set up mail in ballots as required here soon, thanks for e-mailing > > me your opinions. > > > > Drew Blahnick > > YPA/Red Star > > Cell310-386-9181 > > www.allredstar.com > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:18 AM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" When the miniyak is flying, which has not been for over a year now, we use long softies (have for over 200 hours), and really think they are the only way to go. I am however going to have them fitted with lumbar pads. But having said all that I have also flown Batman's seat packs, and they too are very comfortable. I do feel that the softies are easier to enter and exit the aircraft with than the seat packs. The main consideration to keep in mind is your build, I'm kinda long and lean, so the softies dont push me too far forward. But if you are the squatty body type, you may find that the seat pack is better for you. My advice would be to go fly them all before you spend the bucks. When you do finally make up your mind, buy the best, with all the whistles and bells, you will thank yourself later (after your wallet heals up). Always yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Taylor " Subject: RE: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " > > BOY, IT IS a good thing after all this long dissertation you named > yourself at the end! MY chute is a Long Softie, and no one ever called > me "Pinkie". Not after teaching inverted flat spins, and once made an > absolutely vertical dive (for 47 seconds) in a T-33. > But then, if we ever admitted it, it is all just little boys living up > to an image, isn't it? > > > The other point is that I may be wearing a "Pinkie" chute, but I can > stand up straight after getting out of my cockpit! You "manly chute > types" give a great impression stumbling around in your patch-covered > Nomex flight suits and helmets, bent over double like old codgers > holding your backs. Remember the poster of the really ancient old guy > in the flight suit and helmet--"Sleep well, your National Guard is on > duty!"? > > Great article, by the way, one of the very few I have ever read that > actually is honest. > > LMAO! > > Lee Taylor > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd > To: yak-list > Subject: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all > wrong. When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc., we > have been talking like these are technical decisions. The problem is, > they aren't! These are psychological decisions based on the macho > coolness factor (MCF) which has become totally ignored in the decision > making process. I propose we move it to the forefront where it belongs. > > First let's talk about parachutes. If we leave out the Russian and > Chinese 'chutes because of their questionable acceptance of the FAA we > are left with really four major 'chute manufacturers here in the US: > > Manley Butler > Paraphernalia "Softie" > Strong > National > > The National is the cheapest and most compact of the 'chutes. It is > packed to the density of degenerate matter (what one would find in the > core of a collapsed neutron star) so it sucks you butt muscles in and > pulverizes them. You can sit on this 'chute for about 15 minutes before > requiring medical care. This works for 25 year old acro competitors > flying 10-minute hops but for old cross-country butts like ours, no way. > That leaves the National out of the running. > > So how do you pick your 'chute from the remaining group? Well we can > talk about features but it really comes down to something simpler and > more straight-forward. You see, this is really a psychological choice > and the hint is in the name. One is made by "Manl[e]y" Butler, one is > "Strong" and one is "Softie". You will find that most Real Men with > Fighter Pilot icewater in their veins opt for the "Manly" 'chute. The > staid, solid pilot opts for the "strong" 'chute. Guys with callsigns > like "Pinkie" opt for the "softie" 'chute. No worries. Once you > understand this, the selection of a 'chute takes mere milliseconds since > you no longer feel a need to justify your choice. > > Flight wear is another issue. When you are flying the last of the > daytime gunfighters, e.g. F-86, F-11, etc.; there is absolutely no > question about your manliness or fitness as a pilot. Every combat is a > knife fight and the best *man* wins. (Sorry, ladies and girlie men need > not apply.) Period, end of report. Flight wear is not an issue because > one's manliness has already been decided. > > But consider the current state of the world. If you are a fighter pilot > in today's military forces you go up and when combat is imminent you > turn on the weapons system. Nowadays the funky 'P' shows up on the > weapons display and your headset utters the computer-generated and > distorted word "Playstation". Head down you manipulate the "joystick" > and all those buttons on the electronic throttle control. If you do it > right the display reads "Extra Game" and your headset plays the Star > Wars march. Do it wrong and the last thing you hear is the mournful > rising tone and see the words "Game Over." Not too manly that. > > Or worse yet, you are a shit-hot ... uh, sorry ... "Sierra Hotel" pilot > and after UPT you get transferred to C-141s or CODs. Boooooring. No > testosterone there. These poor bus drivers (who don't know that the > weapons system in the F-22 was made by Sony) walk into the O-club and > there are the F-22 drivers talking about "tactics" and "angles" and > "vertical penetration". They don't realize that the discussion is really > about how to get into the pants of that babe unit at the end of the bar, > the one that has them so intimidated that they won't go anywhere near > her. So what are the bus drivers going to do? Start talking up how well > they nailed the localizer in their last hand-flown approach? Can you > THINK of a faster way to be labeled a girlie man? (Let's not even TALK > about these poor guys who get out and are now shagging the right seat of > a 737 for Noservice Airlines.) So we need a way to keep the machismo on > display. Enter Flight Wear! > > Flight Wear allows a pilot to retain his manliness when his flying > won't. Nothing screams "I've got big brass ones" like a Nomex suit > covered with patches. If you doubt me, just look at what the guys around > you are wearing. The newbies whose last airplane before their Yak-52 or > CJ6A was a C-172 have crisply-starched Nomex suits literally covered > with patches that say things like "Safeway Grocery Airplane Day". Next > consider the bus drivers with C-141 and COD experience. Their flight > suits are a little older and a little plainer. They might even have a > squadron patch. > > And on the subject of patches, trashhauler/MAC squadron patches are > bigger, gaudier, and have more grotesque deaths-head symbols than > fighter squadrons. The little fighter pilot squadron patches say "triple > nickel" or "hat in the ring" while the transport command guys have > patches that say "raw flesh eating, fire and vomit spewing, King Air > drivers." > > Now lets consider the guys that flew F6Fs, F4Us, P-80s, F-86s, F9Fs, and > F11Fs in combat. Not to pick on anyone but Randall Webb is a perfect > example. He shows up in a CJ6A painted powder BLUE! He is wearing blue > jeans and a button-down cotton shirt! No helmet adorns his head! What IS > this! Well, he is completely secure in his self-image and knows that, > deep down, there is a lot more similarity than difference between a CJ6A > and a Beechcraft Bonanza. (Besides, he IS a sierra hotel pilot and if > you are lucky you will fly with him in your back seat or on his wing > during formation training but you didn't hear me say that.) > > And if you recall, I mentioned oil. This one is easy. Consider two > people: one is sitting at a computer terminal in a laboratory wearing a > clean white lab coat and glasses and muttering about viscosity > coefficients, lubricity factors, and statistical samples while the other > is up in the cowl of an R-2800 wearing an oil stained coverall with the > name "Joe" (no one knows any of his other names anyway) stitched on the > front and chomping on a stogie. Which one are you going to listen to > when it comes to picking your oil? Damn straight! Joe wins by a country > mile because he has seen and fixed it all and doesn't need no stinkin' > lab report to know what oil works. > > So where am I going with all of this (besides being an equal-opportunity > offender)? Well, I have a proposal to make! Something that the Red Star > Pilots Association could really get into! Let's take a page from wildly > successful televison and offer proper training in the form of "Queer Eye > for the Pilot Guy!" We get a team of wildly studly pilots (perhaps > dressed in tight black leather flight suits) to help the newcomer become > properly attired so that when he gets his CJ6A or Yak-52 marshalled into > the back forty of the warbird parking at OSH, back behind the Cessna > Skymasters, Aeronca Champs, and Stinson Voyagers painted in military > schemes, everyone will know he is a PILOT's PILOT as he gets out of that > cockpit. > > We will have the guy who teaches you about and helps you pick out a > flight suit. ("No, no silly, Nomex is the ONLY way. And you need to put > that patch riiiight there. It is more slimming and besides, it doesn't > clash quite so much with that patch.") Then there is the guy who nods > thoughfully while chewing on an unlighted cigar as he instructs you on > the finer points of selecting a fine mineral oil for your airplane. > ("Well, if you are having 100LL I recommend a full-bodied, > straight-weight Aeroshell 120W but if you are sipping auto fuel in the > winter a multi-vis Phillips 25W60 is a better choice.") Additional > experts will help you with decorating ... I mean paint schemes and nose > art, avionics, and cockpit (oooh, I just LOVE that word) > instrumentation. Never underestimate the machismo of vacuum-tube > avionics and the ability to say, "I have a fire in the avionics bay so I > am shutting down the electrical system and popping the bottle. I'll just > follow your hand signals f > rom now on," uttered in a bored drawl. Ernie Gann and Chuck Yaeger would > be so proud! > > You know, if our Red Star Marketing Agent and Registered TV Personallity > is on-the-ball, he can probably turn this into a prime-time reality TV > show and really get the RSPA on the map! The FAA and TSA will really pay > attention when this hits #1 on the Nielson ratings. Congress critters > won't be able to wait to throw their weight our way especially if we > offer to come out and campaign for them. > > But don't forget, you heard it from me first. I expect that from now on, > when the flying is done for the day and we retire to the bar to > "debrief" (as I unzip my mauve Kermel flightsuit about three inches to > properly display my ascot), that I will never have to buy my own fruity > boat drinks with the little parasols again. > > -- > > Brian "Pinkie/Sparky/turned-his-CJ-into-a-Mooney" Lloyd > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:54 AM PST US From: "Lee Taylor " Subject: RE: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " and once made an > absolutely vertical dive (for 47 seconds) in a T-33. I have never flown one except straight-and-level (aileron rolls count as straight and level) but I understand they had a tendency to tuck under if you were too agressive in pitch during upright spin recovery. Also, no matter how hard you push them, they just don't like to go sonic, do they. Nope, just about impossible. I was a crew chief on fighters in the Air Force, and got to fly in them fairly often. (F-101's, F-106's, T-33's) On the T-33 flight mentioned, it was a radar verification mission, where we had to fly very precisely at 41,000', precise headings. Very boring, and I had been piloting the entire flight. We got low on fuel south of L.A., and turned back toward Oxnard. Radar didn't want to let us descend until we got directly over the field, and we actually reached bingo fuel about 15 miles out. Pilot told me, "When they release us, I want to go DOWN!!" "Yessir", I said. Radar released us to descend exactly over the middle of our runway. I pulled the power back, popped the speed brakes, rolled us inverted, and pulled. Absolutely straight down vertical aimed at the center of the runway for 47 seconds. A couple of rolls each direction on the way down, just to break the monotony. Got on the ground, the pilot looked a little askance at me, said, "You know how to follow orders, don't you?" One of the most fun things I have ever done. Lee Taylor ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:57:17 AM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" Drew, Not true, some folks outside the US can pay via pay pal. My yak guys in AU and NZ sometimes pay in this manner but it is rather expensive for both parties. You can go to the pay pal web site to get the list of countries. Always yakin, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Blahnick" Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > Yes, under the new website I'm asking our web guru to solve this issue, we > will have to set something up for our international members....also, we are > going to field new logo material here over the winter (your summer) as Red > Star takes shape. For now, we should be able to take your order, determine > shipping costs and we can do a credit card transaction. > > First: > > 1. You can't pay through pay pal because you are not residing in the US, is > that right?? > > Believe me, I am looking at making our association International, so we will > fix this... > > Drew > Drew Blahnick > YPA/Red Star > Cell310-386-9181 > www.allredstar.com > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jorgen Nielsen" > To: > Subject: RE: Yak-List: The YPA web site > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > Message for Drew re website... > > > > Hi Drew > > > > Wanted to buy some goodies from the web site, but pay pal does not/will > not > > ship to South Africa - can you guys organise something? > > > > Jorgen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Yak-List: The YPA web site > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > > > Folks, > > > > The web YPA has a minor update allowing folks to access the Transition > Brief > > from the web site. > > > > Lori Edwards, our new web guru, is working on a new web site with added > > features for folks. > > > > I received the inputs on the name, overwhelmingly it was: Red Star Pilots > > Association, or RPA. > > > > We will set up mail in ballots as required here soon, thanks for e-mailing > > me your opinions. > > > > Drew Blahnick > > YPA/Red Star > > Cell310-386-9181 > > www.allredstar.com > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:57:33 AM PST US From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" When the miniyak is flying, which has not been for over a year now, we use long softies (have for over 200 hours), and really think they are the only way to go. I am however going to have them fitted with lumbar pads. But having said all that I have also flown Batman's seat packs, and they too are very comfortable. I do feel that the softies are easier to enter and exit the aircraft with than the seat packs. The main consideration to keep in mind is your build, I'm kinda long and lean, so the softies dont push me too far forward. But if you are the squatty body type, you may find that the seat pack is better for you. My advice would be to go fly them all before you spend the bucks. When you do finally make up your mind, buy the best, with all the whistles and bells, you will thank yourself later (after your wallet heals up). Always yakin, Doug Sapp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Taylor " Subject: RE: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " > > BOY, IT IS a good thing after all this long dissertation you named > yourself at the end! MY chute is a Long Softie, and no one ever called > me "Pinkie". Not after teaching inverted flat spins, and once made an > absolutely vertical dive (for 47 seconds) in a T-33. > But then, if we ever admitted it, it is all just little boys living up > to an image, isn't it? > > > The other point is that I may be wearing a "Pinkie" chute, but I can > stand up straight after getting out of my cockpit! You "manly chute > types" give a great impression stumbling around in your patch-covered > Nomex flight suits and helmets, bent over double like old codgers > holding your backs. Remember the poster of the really ancient old guy > in the flight suit and helmet--"Sleep well, your National Guard is on > duty!"? > > Great article, by the way, one of the very few I have ever read that > actually is honest. > > LMAO! > > Lee Taylor > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd > To: yak-list > Subject: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all > wrong. When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc., we > have been talking like these are technical decisions. The problem is, > they aren't! These are psychological decisions based on the macho > coolness factor (MCF) which has become totally ignored in the decision > making process. I propose we move it to the forefront where it belongs. > > First let's talk about parachutes. If we leave out the Russian and > Chinese 'chutes because of their questionable acceptance of the FAA we > are left with really four major 'chute manufacturers here in the US: > > Manley Butler > Paraphernalia "Softie" > Strong > National > > The National is the cheapest and most compact of the 'chutes. It is > packed to the density of degenerate matter (what one would find in the > core of a collapsed neutron star) so it sucks you butt muscles in and > pulverizes them. You can sit on this 'chute for about 15 minutes before > requiring medical care. This works for 25 year old acro competitors > flying 10-minute hops but for old cross-country butts like ours, no way. > That leaves the National out of the running. > > So how do you pick your 'chute from the remaining group? Well we can > talk about features but it really comes down to something simpler and > more straight-forward. You see, this is really a psychological choice > and the hint is in the name. One is made by "Manl[e]y" Butler, one is > "Strong" and one is "Softie". You will find that most Real Men with > Fighter Pilot icewater in their veins opt for the "Manly" 'chute. The > staid, solid pilot opts for the "strong" 'chute. Guys with callsigns > like "Pinkie" opt for the "softie" 'chute. No worries. Once you > understand this, the selection of a 'chute takes mere milliseconds since > you no longer feel a need to justify your choice. > > Flight wear is another issue. When you are flying the last of the > daytime gunfighters, e.g. F-86, F-11, etc.; there is absolutely no > question about your manliness or fitness as a pilot. Every combat is a > knife fight and the best *man* wins. (Sorry, ladies and girlie men need > not apply.) Period, end of report. Flight wear is not an issue because > one's manliness has already been decided. > > But consider the current state of the world. If you are a fighter pilot > in today's military forces you go up and when combat is imminent you > turn on the weapons system. Nowadays the funky 'P' shows up on the > weapons display and your headset utters the computer-generated and > distorted word "Playstation". Head down you manipulate the "joystick" > and all those buttons on the electronic throttle control. If you do it > right the display reads "Extra Game" and your headset plays the Star > Wars march. Do it wrong and the last thing you hear is the mournful > rising tone and see the words "Game Over." Not too manly that. > > Or worse yet, you are a shit-hot ... uh, sorry ... "Sierra Hotel" pilot > and after UPT you get transferred to C-141s or CODs. Boooooring. No > testosterone there. These poor bus drivers (who don't know that the > weapons system in the F-22 was made by Sony) walk into the O-club and > there are the F-22 drivers talking about "tactics" and "angles" and > "vertical penetration". They don't realize that the discussion is really > about how to get into the pants of that babe unit at the end of the bar, > the one that has them so intimidated that they won't go anywhere near > her. So what are the bus drivers going to do? Start talking up how well > they nailed the localizer in their last hand-flown approach? Can you > THINK of a faster way to be labeled a girlie man? (Let's not even TALK > about these poor guys who get out and are now shagging the right seat of > a 737 for Noservice Airlines.) So we need a way to keep the machismo on > display. Enter Flight Wear! > > Flight Wear allows a pilot to retain his manliness when his flying > won't. Nothing screams "I've got big brass ones" like a Nomex suit > covered with patches. If you doubt me, just look at what the guys around > you are wearing. The newbies whose last airplane before their Yak-52 or > CJ6A was a C-172 have crisply-starched Nomex suits literally covered > with patches that say things like "Safeway Grocery Airplane Day". Next > consider the bus drivers with C-141 and COD experience. Their flight > suits are a little older and a little plainer. They might even have a > squadron patch. > > And on the subject of patches, trashhauler/MAC squadron patches are > bigger, gaudier, and have more grotesque deaths-head symbols than > fighter squadrons. The little fighter pilot squadron patches say "triple > nickel" or "hat in the ring" while the transport command guys have > patches that say "raw flesh eating, fire and vomit spewing, King Air > drivers." > > Now lets consider the guys that flew F6Fs, F4Us, P-80s, F-86s, F9Fs, and > F11Fs in combat. Not to pick on anyone but Randall Webb is a perfect > example. He shows up in a CJ6A painted powder BLUE! He is wearing blue > jeans and a button-down cotton shirt! No helmet adorns his head! What IS > this! Well, he is completely secure in his self-image and knows that, > deep down, there is a lot more similarity than difference between a CJ6A > and a Beechcraft Bonanza. (Besides, he IS a sierra hotel pilot and if > you are lucky you will fly with him in your back seat or on his wing > during formation training but you didn't hear me say that.) > > And if you recall, I mentioned oil. This one is easy. Consider two > people: one is sitting at a computer terminal in a laboratory wearing a > clean white lab coat and glasses and muttering about viscosity > coefficients, lubricity factors, and statistical samples while the other > is up in the cowl of an R-2800 wearing an oil stained coverall with the > name "Joe" (no one knows any of his other names anyway) stitched on the > front and chomping on a stogie. Which one are you going to listen to > when it comes to picking your oil? Damn straight! Joe wins by a country > mile because he has seen and fixed it all and doesn't need no stinkin' > lab report to know what oil works. > > So where am I going with all of this (besides being an equal-opportunity > offender)? Well, I have a proposal to make! Something that the Red Star > Pilots Association could really get into! Let's take a page from wildly > successful televison and offer proper training in the form of "Queer Eye > for the Pilot Guy!" We get a team of wildly studly pilots (perhaps > dressed in tight black leather flight suits) to help the newcomer become > properly attired so that when he gets his CJ6A or Yak-52 marshalled into > the back forty of the warbird parking at OSH, back behind the Cessna > Skymasters, Aeronca Champs, and Stinson Voyagers painted in military > schemes, everyone will know he is a PILOT's PILOT as he gets out of that > cockpit. > > We will have the guy who teaches you about and helps you pick out a > flight suit. ("No, no silly, Nomex is the ONLY way. And you need to put > that patch riiiight there. It is more slimming and besides, it doesn't > clash quite so much with that patch.") Then there is the guy who nods > thoughfully while chewing on an unlighted cigar as he instructs you on > the finer points of selecting a fine mineral oil for your airplane. > ("Well, if you are having 100LL I recommend a full-bodied, > straight-weight Aeroshell 120W but if you are sipping auto fuel in the > winter a multi-vis Phillips 25W60 is a better choice.") Additional > experts will help you with decorating ... I mean paint schemes and nose > art, avionics, and cockpit (oooh, I just LOVE that word) > instrumentation. Never underestimate the machismo of vacuum-tube > avionics and the ability to say, "I have a fire in the avionics bay so I > am shutting down the electrical system and popping the bottle. I'll just > follow your hand signals f > rom now on," uttered in a bored drawl. Ernie Gann and Chuck Yaeger would > be so proud! > > You know, if our Red Star Marketing Agent and Registered TV Personallity > is on-the-ball, he can probably turn this into a prime-time reality TV > show and really get the RSPA on the map! The FAA and TSA will really pay > attention when this hits #1 on the Nielson ratings. Congress critters > won't be able to wait to throw their weight our way especially if we > offer to come out and campaign for them. > > But don't forget, you heard it from me first. I expect that from now on, > when the flying is done for the day and we retire to the bar to > "debrief" (as I unzip my mauve Kermel flightsuit about three inches to > properly display my ascot), that I will never have to buy my own fruity > boat drinks with the little parasols again. > > -- > > Brian "Pinkie/Sparky/turned-his-CJ-into-a-Mooney" Lloyd > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:18:47 AM PST US From: "Drew Blahnick" Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" Thanks Doug! We will figure something out for S.Africa and others, Drew Drew Blahnick YPA/Red Star Cell310-386-9181 www.allredstar.com "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" > > Drew, > Not true, some folks outside the US can pay via pay pal. My yak guys in AU > and NZ sometimes pay in this manner but it is rather expensive for both > parties. You can go to the pay pal web site to get the list of countries. > > Always yakin, > Doug > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew Blahnick" > To: > Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > > > Yes, under the new website I'm asking our web guru to solve this issue, we > > will have to set something up for our international members....also, we > are > > going to field new logo material here over the winter (your summer) as Red > > Star takes shape. For now, we should be able to take your order, determine > > shipping costs and we can do a credit card transaction. > > > > First: > > > > 1. You can't pay through pay pal because you are not residing in the US, > is > > that right?? > > > > Believe me, I am looking at making our association International, so we > will > > fix this... > > > > Drew > > Drew Blahnick > > YPA/Red Star > > Cell310-386-9181 > > www.allredstar.com > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > To: > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: The YPA web site > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > > > > Message for Drew re website... > > > > > > Hi Drew > > > > > > Wanted to buy some goodies from the web site, but pay pal does not/will > > not > > > ship to South Africa - can you guys organise something? > > > > > > Jorgen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Yak-List: The YPA web site > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > The web YPA has a minor update allowing folks to access the Transition > > Brief > > > from the web site. > > > > > > Lori Edwards, our new web guru, is working on a new web site with added > > > features for folks. > > > > > > I received the inputs on the name, overwhelmingly it was: Red Star > Pilots > > > Association, or RPA. > > > > > > We will set up mail in ballots as required here soon, thanks for > e-mailing > > > me your opinions. > > > > > > Drew Blahnick > > > YPA/Red Star > > > Cell310-386-9181 > > > www.allredstar.com > > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes" > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:37:57 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag Mystery Continues --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Does it backfire at all??? What kind of fuel are you running? Could it be some sort of incomplete combustion problem which is masked when both sets of plugs are firing? If the mixture is just a tad too rich there may not be enough spark for complete combustion with just one mag. I'm reaching here but its possible. As an experiment see how you engine runs with both mags, then open your primer pump and see how it runs, then do the same on mag 1......primer closed then open. See if you can excaerbate the problem with the primer pump. Lastly see if there is any water in your fuel. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Mag Mystery Continues > --> Yak-List message posted by: Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com > > Just when I was pretty sure that I owed Dennis a case of beer, the plot > thickened. :-) > > In trying to correct my mag drops on my CJ, I've already run it up with the > #1 p-lead disconnected, replaced the #1 coil and high voltage rod, and > filled the wiring harness with two cans of WD-40, and even said a little > prayer. > > Things may have improved a little but I'm still experiencing disconcerting > drops. Here's what happens. > > I take the CJ (stock 285hp engine) out to the runup area on a field that's > about 100' MSL and it idles nicely and it runs up good. > > If I let it run for a while (like 15 minutes) and get it warm (oil at 60+C > cylinders at 140+C) I start to get 100-200rpm drops when I have the mags > set to "1". It ALSO does it on "2" but *much* less often. > > It seems to have something to do with temperature. It doesn't start to do > it until it's detected that I'm pretty sure that the problem is fixed, no > no, that's not it... no it doesn't do it until it's good and warm. If I > open the cowl shutters and get it cool back to 120C it doesn't seem to > start having the problem again until 150C or better. It's hard to say if > it's a function of oil temp. or of cylinder temp... although at 40C oil and > 170C cylinder was the situation where it was running fine and I thought it > was fixed... until the oil came up to over 60C. > > It will run at 1800rpm on "1" for a while and then the engine will say > "SKIT!" and I'll get a drop, it will run for 5-10 seconds and say "SKIT!" > again and drop. > > ** I can correct the problem by going back to 1+2. I have yet to see it > drop out on 1+2 -- excepting for the one drop I got last week coming into > the pattern... which is why I hesitate to take it into the air again. > > It seems to have something to do with power setting. If I leave it on "1" > it hasn't dropped out at 1500rpm ... it seems to drop out more at 2000rpm. > > It may have a little to do with mixture setting... if I push the mixture up > to match the throttle at 1800rpm it seems to take longer for the problem to > show up. Once it does, mixture doesn't seem to correct it. > > I'm running out of bright ideas... any suggestions? > > Jon > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:49:59 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Parachutes --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" Strong Parachutes makes excellent C-9 seat pack chutes that fit nicely in the seats of the yak and CJ. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Cockrell" Subject: Yak-List: Parachutes > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Alan Cockrell" > > > My aching back tells me it's time to dump the chair packs and get seat packs. Who knows where the best deal is deal for Yak-52 butt packs? (p.s. I have 2 National 360 chair packs for sale.) > > T-Boy > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:06 PM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Russian Advice --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" I like to say, "Strong Like Bull, designed to be maintained by men Drunk Like Pig" Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Russian Advice > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com wrote: > > > He says to me in a pretty thick accent, "I know what problem is." > > > > Really?! Tell me! > > > > He says that my engine has a bunch of crap in it, and if this was the > > Russia, they'd just to fly it hard and hot until it burned it out. > > ... > > Well, that fixed it. I'll be damned. I ran it hot, I ran it cold, I ran > > it rich, I ran it lean... I ran it at high power, I ran it at low power, I > > left it on "1", I left it on "2"... and no misses. Crimeny! > > As our friend Russ is wont to say, "strong like ox, smart like tractor." Brute force either solves the problem or breaks it so completely that you then know what to fix. It is one approach to problem solving. > > -- > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 > +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax > GMT-4 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:32:37 PM PST US From: "Stuart Mackereth" Subject: RE: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" Are the russian chutes really problematic - if so, how specifically? Poor low altitude effectiveness? Or do they tear? Uncomfortable? wut? I'm assuming the FAA are not just being hyperactive on this issue. Thanks! [snip] --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd First let's talk about parachutes. If we leave out the Russian and Chinese 'chutes because of their questionable acceptance of the FAA we are left with really four major 'chute manufacturers here in the US: [snip] ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:00 PM PST US From: FOUGAPILOT@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: FOUGAPILOT@aol.com The issue with Chinese and Russian parachutes is not with their efficiency, it simply that they are not certified in accordance with the FARs. Dan Fortin ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:20 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Stuart Mackereth wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" > > > Are the russian chutes really problematic - if so, how specifically? > Poor low altitude effectiveness? Or do they tear? Uncomfortable? wut? > I'm assuming the FAA are not just being hyperactive on this issue. I am going on hearsay on this one but I really dismissed them because it made my rant better. I just assume that since they haven't been granted the FAA good housekeeping seal of approval the FAA is not inclined to bless them. But ... I don't know; Your milage may vary. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:45 PM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: RE: Yak-List: The YPA web site --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" Doug is correct. Pay pal do support some international destinations, but not South Africa. Maybe they figure the wild animals may eat the fed-ex man? Or that we don't have fuel here for the cargo plane's return trip? Seriously though, I have bought many items via the net from the US and other places. No problems. Any alternatives would be great. Jorgen -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" Drew, Not true, some folks outside the US can pay via pay pal. My yak guys in AU and NZ sometimes pay in this manner but it is rather expensive for both parties. You can go to the pay pal web site to get the list of countries. Always yakin, Doug ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:29 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: (no subject) gaf127enl@msn.com, MDSHELLEY@aol.com, yakjock@msn.com, walterfricke@yahoo.com, finleycj6@juno.com, BDorsey777@aol.com, wildf15c@hotmail.com, Swifty305@aol.com, tcalloway@datatechnique.com, paulcfitzgerald@attbi.com, mason.t@worldnet.att.net, radialpower@cox.net, davedris@cavtel.net, pino1@compuserve.com, RAre406906@aol.com, CEParaiso@aol.com, JGoolsby@umaryland.edu, artziggy6@yahoo.com, moreira_thais@hotmail.com, vicky@shippei.com, paraisoam@surfbest.net, EdrisDee@aol.com, Ckelso17@earthlink.net, Csvanschaick@aol.com --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Flying buddies, family, & SO Arrived home for one night after flying the Collings B-24J two weeks. Hardly had time to recover from MTW/OSH. Off tomorrow afternoon for Brazil to visit #2 grandson. The wife and I should be back home by Sept 2. The last two weeks I saw and met from really neat folks. I met Bill Etter who was the original bombardier on the B-24 "The Dragon and his tail". His most memorial mission? The last one, where he saw the A bomb dropped on Nagasaki (sp?). Yes he was the bombardier in a B-24J at the time. He said his crews orders were to fly to five different targets along the coast of Japan. "If the first one shots at you, drop your bombs there. If not, go to the next target and so on. If no one shots at you just drop the bombs on the last target anyway". They were than to stand off from Nagasaki from 50 miles at 15,000 feet and wait. He said they had an idea what they might see. He said the mushroom cloud took less than 3 minutes to pass their altitude. That was it. He came home on a boat which took almost a month! I had the pleasure of being included in with his family's picture in front of "The Dragon and his tail". At 81 he is still sharp and wealthy. I hope you all will forgive me if I do not answer all 308 messages (not much Spam). Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:18:07 PM PST US From: jackron@att.net Subject: RE: Yak-List: Parachutes --> Yak-List message posted by: jackron@att.net I have 2 U.S. military seat chutes, 28' Can O Pee, never used since I've owned them. Come with classy O/D carry bags. Will take $600 for both or trade for ? Ron Swanson -- > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" > > I'm also trying to source 2nd hand repacked seat shutes (x2) - > preferably original russian ones - cheaper :-) > Anyone taken theirs out to replace them with western back shutes and > have them gathering dust in the hangar, gimme a shout. > > Thanks in advance. > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Cockrell > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Parachutes > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Alan Cockrell" > > > My aching back tells me it's time to dump the chair packs and get seat > packs. Who knows where the best deal is deal for Yak-52 butt packs? > (p.s. I have 2 National 360 chair packs for sale.) > > T-Boy > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > > > > >