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1. 02:16 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Kevin Pilling)
2. 03:14 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Ron)
3. 04:24 AM - Re: Mag Mystery Continues (Trampas)
4. 05:14 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Brian Lloyd)
5. 05:35 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (Brian Lloyd)
6. 07:29 AM - SA problems (Deon Esterhuizen)
7. 07:31 AM - Re: Mag Mystery Continues (Lee Taylor)
8. 07:37 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 23 Msgs - 08/25/03 (John W Finley)
9. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 23 Msgs - 08/25/03 (Brian Lloyd)
10. 09:18 AM - Re: SA problems (Stuart Mackereth)
11. 09:45 AM - Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues (cjpilot710@aol.com)
12. 10:16 AM - Re: chutes (Jerry Painter)
13. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: chutes (Brian Lloyd)
14. 11:25 AM - Chutes (Yakjock)
15. 11:47 AM - Re: SA problems (Deon Esterhuizen)
16. 11:57 AM - Re: Chutes (Lee Taylor)
17. 12:24 PM - Re: Chutes (Brian Lloyd)
18. 06:16 PM - Re: Re: chutes (Ernie)
19. 09:24 PM - Yak / Nanchang Metric Instrument Panel Screws (Tom Johnson)
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| Subject: | Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling@btclick.com>
Sifting through the plethora of daily postings can sometimes stretch my yak
list tolerance level the critical point.
That said just occasionally we can all pick up useful snippets of aviation
folklore and thus wisdom from the list.
Beyond this a posting of human interest can raise my spirits on a 'grey
day', and Brian yours falls firmly into my yak list favourites of all times.
It was a grey day because my beautiful Yak 50 got 'totalled' in a ground
accident yesterday (blissfully without human injury) and your posting raised
my spirits !
More details and images of the demise of my '50 to follow.
fly safe
kp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all wrong.
When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc., we have been
talking like these are technical decisions. The problem is, they aren't!
These are psychological decisions based on the macho coolness factor (MCF)
which has become totally ignored in the decision making process. I propose
we move it to the forefront where it belongs.
>
> First let's talk about parachutes. If we leave out the Russian and
Chinese 'chutes because of their questionable acceptance of the FAA we are
left with really four major 'chute manufacturers here in the US:
>
> Manley Butler
> Paraphernalia "Softie"
> Strong
> National
>
> The National is the cheapest and most compact of the 'chutes. It is
packed to the density of degenerate matter (what one would find in the core
of a collapsed neutron star) so it sucks you butt muscles in and pulverizes
them. You can sit on this 'chute for about 15 minutes before requiring
medical care. This works for 25 year old acro competitors flying 10-minute
hops but for old cross-country butts like ours, no way. That leaves the
National out of the running.
>
> So how do you pick your 'chute from the remaining group? Well we can talk
about features but it really comes down to something simpler and more
straight-forward. You see, this is really a psychological choice and the
hint is in the name. One is made by "Manl[e]y" Butler, one is "Strong" and
one is "Softie". You will find that most Real Men with Fighter Pilot
icewater in their veins opt for the "Manly" 'chute. The staid, solid pilot
opts for the "strong" 'chute. Guys with callsigns like "Pinkie" opt for the
"softie" 'chute. No worries. Once you understand this, the selection of a
'chute takes mere milliseconds since you no longer feel a need to justify
your choice.
>
> Flight wear is another issue. When you are flying the last of the daytime
gunfighters, e.g. F-86, F-11, etc.; there is absolutely no question about
your manliness or fitness as a pilot. Every combat is a knife fight and the
best *man* wins. (Sorry, ladies and girlie men need not apply.) Period,
end of report. Flight wear is not an issue because one's manliness has
already been decided.
>
> But consider the current state of the world. If you are a fighter pilot
in today's military forces you go up and when combat is imminent you turn on
the weapons system. Nowadays the funky 'P' shows up on the weapons display
and your headset utters the computer-generated and distorted word
"Playstation". Head down you manipulate the "joystick" and all those
buttons on the electronic throttle control. If you do it right the display
reads "Extra Game" and your headset plays the Star Wars march. Do it wrong
and the last thing you hear is the mournful rising tone and see the words
"Game Over." Not too manly that.
>
> Or worse yet, you are a shit-hot ... uh, sorry ... "Sierra Hotel" pilot
and after UPT you get transferred to C-141s or CODs. Boooooring. No
testosterone there. These poor bus drivers (who don't know that the weapons
system in the F-22 was made by Sony) walk into the O-club and there are the
F-22 drivers talking about "tactics" and "angles" and "vertical
penetration". They don't realize that the discussion is really about how to
get into the pants of that babe unit at the end of the bar, the one that has
them so intimidated that they won't go anywhere near her. So what are the
bus drivers going to do? Start talking up how well they nailed the
localizer in their last hand-flown approach? Can you THINK of a faster way
to be labeled a girlie man? (Let's not even TALK about these poor guys who
get out and are now shagging the right seat of a 737 for Noservice
Airlines.) So we need a way to keep the machismo on display. Enter Flight
Wear!
>
> Flight Wear allows a pilot to retain his manliness when his flying won't.
Nothing screams "I've got big brass ones" like a Nomex suit covered with
patches. If you doubt me, just look at what the guys around you are
wearing. The newbies whose last airplane before their Yak-52 or CJ6A was a
C-172 have crisply-starched Nomex suits literally covered with patches that
say things like "Safeway Grocery Airplane Day". Next consider the bus
drivers with C-141 and COD experience. Their flight suits are a little
older and a little plainer. They might even have a squadron patch.
>
> And on the subject of patches, trashhauler/MAC squadron patches are
bigger, gaudier, and have more grotesque deaths-head symbols than fighter
squadrons. The little fighter pilot squadron patches say "triple nickel" or
"hat in the ring" while the transport command guys have patches that say
"raw flesh eating, fire and vomit spewing, King Air drivers."
>
> Now lets consider the guys that flew F6Fs, F4Us, P-80s, F-86s, F9Fs, and
F11Fs in combat. Not to pick on anyone but Randall Webb is a perfect
example. He shows up in a CJ6A painted powder BLUE! He is wearing blue
jeans and a button-down cotton shirt! No helmet adorns his head! What IS
this! Well, he is completely secure in his self-image and knows that, deep
down, there is a lot more similarity than difference between a CJ6A and a
Beechcraft Bonanza. (Besides, he IS a sierra hotel pilot and if you are
lucky you will fly with him in your back seat or on his wing during
formation training but you didn't hear me say that.)
>
> And if you recall, I mentioned oil. This one is easy. Consider two
people: one is sitting at a computer terminal in a laboratory wearing a
clean white lab coat and glasses and muttering about viscosity coefficients,
lubricity factors, and statistical samples while the other is up in the cowl
of an R-2800 wearing an oil stained coverall with the name "Joe" (no one
knows any of his other names anyway) stitched on the front and chomping on a
stogie. Which one are you going to listen to when it comes to picking your
oil? Damn straight! Joe wins by a country mile because he has seen and
fixed it all and doesn't need no stinkin' lab report to know what oil works.
>
> So where am I going with all of this (besides being an equal-opportunity
offender)? Well, I have a proposal to make! Something that the Red Star
Pilots Association could really get into! Let's take a page from wildly
successful televison and offer proper training in the form of "Queer Eye for
the Pilot Guy!" We get a team of wildly studly pilots (perhaps dressed in
tight black leather flight suits) to help the newcomer become properly
attired so that when he gets his CJ6A or Yak-52 marshalled into the back
forty of the warbird parking at OSH, back behind the Cessna Skymasters,
Aeronca Champs, and Stinson Voyagers painted in military schemes, everyone
will know he is a PILOT's PILOT as he gets out of that cockpit.
>
> We will have the guy who teaches you about and helps you pick out a flight
suit. ("No, no silly, Nomex is the ONLY way. And you need to put that patch
riiiight there. It is more slimming and besides, it doesn't clash quite so
much with that patch.") Then there is the guy who nods thoughfully while
chewing on an unlighted cigar as he instructs you on the finer points of
selecting a fine mineral oil for your airplane. ("Well, if you are having
100LL I recommend a full-bodied, straight-weight Aeroshell 120W but if you
are sipping auto fuel in the winter a multi-vis Phillips 25W60 is a better
choice.") Additional experts will help you with decorating ... I mean paint
schemes and nose art, avionics, and cockpit (oooh, I just LOVE that word)
instrumentation. Never underestimate the machismo of vacuum-tube avionics
and the ability to say, "I have a fire in the avionics bay so I am shutting
down the electrical system and popping the bottle. I'll just follow your
hand signals f
> rom now on," uttered in a bored drawl. Ernie Gann and Chuck Yaeger would
be so proud!
>
> You know, if our Red Star Marketing Agent and Registered TV Personallity
is on-the-ball, he can probably turn this into a prime-time reality TV show
and really get the RSPA on the map! The FAA and TSA will really pay
attention when this hits #1 on the Nielson ratings. Congress critters won't
be able to wait to throw their weight our way especially if we offer to come
out and campaign for them.
>
> But don't forget, you heard it from me first. I expect that from now on,
when the flying is done for the day and we retire to the bar to "debrief"
(as I unzip my mauve Kermel flightsuit about three inches to properly
display my ascot), that I will never have to buy my own fruity boat drinks
with the little parasols again.
>
> --
>
> Brian "Pinkie/Sparky/turned-his-CJ-into-a-Mooney" Lloyd
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
So have you actually spent time at the Nellis O-club on airshow weekend, or
are clairvoyant?
I've heard middle-aged wannabe fighter pilots (reality check: if you don't
consider yourself middle-aged then ask yourself how many living people there
are that are twice your age) wonder aloud in this setting why the
Edwards/Nellis/Miramar fighter pilots were absent.
It is, after all, the Sierra Hotel pilots only chance each year to hang out
with civilians, wearing real Nomex flight suits, that appear to be the fifth
to eighth month of pregnancy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Yak-List: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all wrong.
When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc., we have been
talking like these are technical decisions. The problem is, they aren't!
These are psychological decisions based on the macho coolness factor (MCF)
which has become totally ignored in the decision making process. I propose
we move it to the forefront where it belongs.
>
> First let's talk about parachutes. If we leave out the Russian and
Chinese 'chutes because of their questionable acceptance of the FAA we are
left with really four major 'chute manufacturers here in the US:
>
> Manley Butler
> Paraphernalia "Softie"
> Strong
> National
>
> The National is the cheapest and most compact of the 'chutes. It is
packed to the density of degenerate matter (what one would find in the core
of a collapsed neutron star) so it sucks you butt muscles in and pulverizes
them. You can sit on this 'chute for about 15 minutes before requiring
medical care. This works for 25 year old acro competitors flying 10-minute
hops but for old cross-country butts like ours, no way. That leaves the
National out of the running.
>
> So how do you pick your 'chute from the remaining group? Well we can talk
about features but it really comes down to something simpler and more
straight-forward. You see, this is really a psychological choice and the
hint is in the name. One is made by "Manl[e]y" Butler, one is "Strong" and
one is "Softie". You will find that most Real Men with Fighter Pilot
icewater in their veins opt for the "Manly" 'chute. The staid, solid pilot
opts for the "strong" 'chute. Guys with callsigns like "Pinkie" opt for the
"softie" 'chute. No worries. Once you understand this, the selection of a
'chute takes mere milliseconds since you no longer feel a need to justify
your choice.
>
> Flight wear is another issue. When you are flying the last of the daytime
gunfighters, e.g. F-86, F-11, etc.; there is absolutely no question about
your manliness or fitness as a pilot. Every combat is a knife fight and the
best *man* wins. (Sorry, ladies and girlie men need not apply.) Period,
end of report. Flight wear is not an issue because one's manliness has
already been decided.
>
> But consider the current state of the world. If you are a fighter pilot
in today's military forces you go up and when combat is imminent you turn on
the weapons system. Nowadays the funky 'P' shows up on the weapons display
and your headset utters the computer-generated and distorted word
"Playstation". Head down you manipulate the "joystick" and all those
buttons on the electronic throttle control. If you do it right the display
reads "Extra Game" and your headset plays the Star Wars march. Do it wrong
and the last thing you hear is the mournful rising tone and see the words
"Game Over." Not too manly that.
>
> Or worse yet, you are a shit-hot ... uh, sorry ... "Sierra Hotel" pilot
and after UPT you get transferred to C-141s or CODs. Boooooring. No
testosterone there. These poor bus drivers (who don't know that the weapons
system in the F-22 was made by Sony) walk into the O-club and there are the
F-22 drivers talking about "tactics" and "angles" and "vertical
penetration". They don't realize that the discussion is really about how to
get into the pants of that babe unit at the end of the bar, the one that has
them so intimidated that they won't go anywhere near her. So what are the
bus drivers going to do? Start talking up how well they nailed the
localizer in their last hand-flown approach? Can you THINK of a faster way
to be labeled a girlie man? (Let's not even TALK about these poor guys who
get out and are now shagging the right seat of a 737 for Noservice
Airlines.) So we need a way to keep the machismo on display. Enter Flight
Wear!
>
> Flight Wear allows a pilot to retain his manliness when his flying won't.
Nothing screams "I've got big brass ones" like a Nomex suit covered with
patches. If you doubt me, just look at what the guys around you are
wearing. The newbies whose last airplane before their Yak-52 or CJ6A was a
C-172 have crisply-starched Nomex suits literally covered with patches that
say things like "Safeway Grocery Airplane Day". Next consider the bus
drivers with C-141 and COD experience. Their flight suits are a little
older and a little plainer. They might even have a squadron patch.
>
> And on the subject of patches, trashhauler/MAC squadron patches are
bigger, gaudier, and have more grotesque deaths-head symbols than fighter
squadrons. The little fighter pilot squadron patches say "triple nickel" or
"hat in the ring" while the transport command guys have patches that say
"raw flesh eating, fire and vomit spewing, King Air drivers."
>
> Now lets consider the guys that flew F6Fs, F4Us, P-80s, F-86s, F9Fs, and
F11Fs in combat. Not to pick on anyone but Randall Webb is a perfect
example. He shows up in a CJ6A painted powder BLUE! He is wearing blue
jeans and a button-down cotton shirt! No helmet adorns his head! What IS
this! Well, he is completely secure in his self-image and knows that, deep
down, there is a lot more similarity than difference between a CJ6A and a
Beechcraft Bonanza. (Besides, he IS a sierra hotel pilot and if you are
lucky you will fly with him in your back seat or on his wing during
formation training but you didn't hear me say that.)
>
> And if you recall, I mentioned oil. This one is easy. Consider two
people: one is sitting at a computer terminal in a laboratory wearing a
clean white lab coat and glasses and muttering about viscosity coefficients,
lubricity factors, and statistical samples while the other is up in the cowl
of an R-2800 wearing an oil stained coverall with the name "Joe" (no one
knows any of his other names anyway) stitched on the front and chomping on a
stogie. Which one are you going to listen to when it comes to picking your
oil? Damn straight! Joe wins by a country mile because he has seen and
fixed it all and doesn't need no stinkin' lab report to know what oil works.
>
> So where am I going with all of this (besides being an equal-opportunity
offender)? Well, I have a proposal to make! Something that the Red Star
Pilots Association could really get into! Let's take a page from wildly
successful televison and offer proper training in the form of "Queer Eye for
the Pilot Guy!" We get a team of wildly studly pilots (perhaps dressed in
tight black leather flight suits) to help the newcomer become properly
attired so that when he gets his CJ6A or Yak-52 marshalled into the back
forty of the warbird parking at OSH, back behind the Cessna Skymasters,
Aeronca Champs, and Stinson Voyagers painted in military schemes, everyone
will know he is a PILOT's PILOT as he gets out of that cockpit.
>
> We will have the guy who teaches you about and helps you pick out a flight
suit. ("No, no silly, Nomex is the ONLY way. And you need to put that patch
riiiight there. It is more slimming and besides, it doesn't clash quite so
much with that patch.") Then there is the guy who nods thoughfully while
chewing on an unlighted cigar as he instructs you on the finer points of
selecting a fine mineral oil for your airplane. ("Well, if you are having
100LL I recommend a full-bodied, straight-weight Aeroshell 120W but if you
are sipping auto fuel in the winter a multi-vis Phillips 25W60 is a better
choice.") Additional experts will help you with decorating ... I mean paint
schemes and nose art, avionics, and cockpit (oooh, I just LOVE that word)
instrumentation. Never underestimate the machismo of vacuum-tube avionics
and the ability to say, "I have a fire in the avionics bay so I am shutting
down the electrical system and popping the bottle. I'll just follow your
hand signals f
> rom now on," uttered in a bored drawl. Ernie Gann and Chuck Yaeger would
be so proud!
>
> You know, if our Red Star Marketing Agent and Registered TV Personallity
is on-the-ball, he can probably turn this into a prime-time reality TV show
and really get the RSPA on the map! The FAA and TSA will really pay
attention when this hits #1 on the Nielson ratings. Congress critters won't
be able to wait to throw their weight our way especially if we offer to come
out and campaign for them.
>
> But don't forget, you heard it from me first. I expect that from now on,
when the flying is done for the day and we retire to the bar to "debrief"
(as I unzip my mauve Kermel flightsuit about three inches to properly
display my ascot), that I will never have to buy my own fruity boat drinks
with the little parasols again.
>
> --
>
> Brian "Pinkie/Sparky/turned-his-CJ-into-a-Mooney" Lloyd
>
>
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| Subject: | Mag Mystery Continues |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
I am no AP but it sounds like you have a weak spark. That is the mags
are not putting out enough power. When this happens you will experience
a miss when the engine is under a load or when the mixture is lean. This
is when the plugs require higher voltage to spark. When the problem gets
real bad you will experience hard starts when the engine is cold.
The causes could be bad points, weak magnets in the mags, bad coil, bad
wires, or more likely a low resistance to ground on the p-leads. That is
if there is any thing other than the mag switch connected to the
p-leads, disconnect it and see if the engine runs better. For example a
tachometer could draw enough power from the p-lead to cause a weak
spark. If this is the case often the fix is to place a 1k-2k ohm
resistor in line with the tachometer.
Trampas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag Mystery Continues
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Does it backfire at all???
What kind of fuel are you running? Could it be some sort of incomplete
combustion problem which is masked when both sets of plugs are firing?
If the mixture is just a tad too rich there may not be enough spark for
complete combustion with just one mag. I'm reaching here but its
possible.
As an experiment see how you engine runs with both mags, then open your
primer pump and see how it runs, then do the same on mag 1......primer
closed then open. See if you can excaerbate the problem with the primer
pump.
Lastly see if there is any water in your fuel.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Mag Mystery Continues
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com
>
> Just when I was pretty sure that I owed Dennis a case of beer, the
plot
> thickened. :-)
>
> In trying to correct my mag drops on my CJ, I've already run it up
with
the
> #1 p-lead disconnected, replaced the #1 coil and high voltage rod, and
> filled the wiring harness with two cans of WD-40, and even said a
little
> prayer.
>
> Things may have improved a little but I'm still experiencing
disconcerting
> drops. Here's what happens.
>
> I take the CJ (stock 285hp engine) out to the runup area on a field
that's
> about 100' MSL and it idles nicely and it runs up good.
>
> If I let it run for a while (like 15 minutes) and get it warm (oil at
60+C
> cylinders at 140+C) I start to get 100-200rpm drops when I have the
mags
> set to "1". It ALSO does it on "2" but *much* less often.
>
> It seems to have something to do with temperature. It doesn't start
to do
> it until it's detected that I'm pretty sure that the problem is fixed,
no
> no, that's not it... no it doesn't do it until it's good and warm. If
I
> open the cowl shutters and get it cool back to 120C it doesn't seem to
> start having the problem again until 150C or better. It's hard to say
if
> it's a function of oil temp. or of cylinder temp... although at 40C
oil
and
> 170C cylinder was the situation where it was running fine and I
thought it
> was fixed... until the oil came up to over 60C.
>
> It will run at 1800rpm on "1" for a while and then the engine will say
> "SKIT!" and I'll get a drop, it will run for 5-10 seconds and say
"SKIT!"
> again and drop.
>
> ** I can correct the problem by going back to 1+2. I have yet to see
it
> drop out on 1+2 -- excepting for the one drop I got last week coming
into
> the pattern... which is why I hesitate to take it into the air again.
>
> It seems to have something to do with power setting. If I leave it on
"1"
> it hasn't dropped out at 1500rpm ... it seems to drop out more at
2000rpm.
>
> It may have a little to do with mixture setting... if I push the
mixture
up
> to match the throttle at 1800rpm it seems to take longer for the
problem
to
> show up. Once it does, mixture doesn't seem to correct it.
>
> I'm running out of bright ideas... any suggestions?
>
> Jon
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Kevin Pilling wrote:
> Beyond this a posting of human interest can raise my spirits on a 'grey
> day', and Brian yours falls firmly into my yak list favourites of all times.
Thank you. Once in a blue moon the muse strikes and the blind hog finds an acorn
of truth or wisdom. Also periodically I feel this need to mix my metaphors
too.
> It was a grey day because my beautiful Yak 50 got 'totalled' in a ground
> accident yesterday (blissfully without human injury) and your posting raised
> my spirits !
Oh man, I am so sorry to hear that. I am glad to know that my temporary insanity
helped lift your spirits.
> More details and images of the demise of my '50 to follow.
Break it to me gently.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ron wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> So have you actually spent time at the Nellis O-club on airshow weekend, or
> are clairvoyant?
My father is a retired Navy fighter jock (he taught advanced gunnery and tactics
in the F9F and the F11F). My uncle was a Marine fighter jock (flew F8Us).
My sons' uncle is an F-14 RIO. I was the black sheep of the family and attended
the USAFA because I wanted to be different. (Sorry guys, I went USAFA JC and
didn't graduate so I gave up all chance of ever achieving total fighter-pilot
manliness. I have to display my sour grapes by running down all you real men.)
Many of my friends are current or ex fighter jocks (with the exception of
the poor slobs who were MAC or SAC). I get the opportunity to attend Tailhook
with my father. While attending college I still had my dependents ID so I was
able to go to the O-club as it was cheaper than the local college dive. Yeah,
I am steeped in this tradition.
> I've heard middle-aged wannabe fighter pilots (reality check: if you don't
> consider yourself middle-aged then ask yourself how many living people there
> are that are twice your age) wonder aloud in this setting why the
> Edwards/Nellis/Miramar fighter pilots were absent.
They were at Fallon.
> It is, after all, the Sierra Hotel pilots only chance each year to hang out
> with civilians, wearing real Nomex flight suits, that appear to be the fifth
> to eighth month of pregnancy.
Oh, you've seen me at OSH then!
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
Jorgen
I'm an ex South African living in Tampa Florida. I will be coming back
for a visit next March , if you can wait that long and you are not
buying an engine, I can bring stuff with me. You can contact me off list
if you want.
Deon Esterhuizen
Yak52
N192YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Jorgen Nielsen [mailto:Jorgen.Nielsen@mweb.co.za]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: The YPA web site
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<Jorgen.Nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Doug is correct. Pay pal do support some international destinations,
but
not South Africa.
Maybe they figure the wild animals may eat the fed-ex man? Or that we
don't
have fuel here for the cargo plane's return trip?
Seriously though, I have bought many items via the net from the US and
other
places. No problems. Any alternatives would be great.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug
Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Drew,
Not true, some folks outside the US can pay via pay pal. My yak guys in
AU
and NZ sometimes pay in this manner but it is rather expensive for both
parties. You can go to the pay pal web site to get the list of
countries.
Always yakin,
Doug
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| Subject: | Mag Mystery Continues |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
TRAMPAS: Go back and read the earlier responses. All us hot-shot
mechanical geniuses were dramatically upstaged by a RUSSIAN mechanic.
With the typical Russian response to the problem. "Beat the hell out of
it until the problem goes away!" His response worked. All us
"Experts"??? All we did was cause a whole lot of stress and expense.
:>)))
Lee Taylor
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trampas
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mag Mystery Continues
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
I am no AP but it sounds like you have a weak spark. That is the mags
are not putting out enough power. When this happens you will experience
a miss when the engine is under a load or when the mixture is lean. This
is when the plugs require higher voltage to spark. When the problem gets
real bad you will experience hard starts when the engine is cold.
The causes could be bad points, weak magnets in the mags, bad coil, bad
wires, or more likely a low resistance to ground on the p-leads. That is
if there is any thing other than the mag switch connected to the
p-leads, disconnect it and see if the engine runs better. For example a
tachometer could draw enough power from the p-lead to cause a weak
spark. If this is the case often the fix is to place a 1k-2k ohm
resistor in line with the tachometer.
Trampas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mag Mystery Continues
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Does it backfire at all???
What kind of fuel are you running? Could it be some sort of incomplete
combustion problem which is masked when both sets of plugs are firing?
If the mixture is just a tad too rich there may not be enough spark for
complete combustion with just one mag. I'm reaching here but its
possible.
As an experiment see how you engine runs with both mags, then open your
primer pump and see how it runs, then do the same on mag 1......primer
closed then open. See if you can excaerbate the problem with the primer
pump.
Lastly see if there is any water in your fuel.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Mag Mystery Continues
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jon.Boede@corp.terralycos.com
>
> Just when I was pretty sure that I owed Dennis a case of beer, the
plot
> thickened. :-)
>
> In trying to correct my mag drops on my CJ, I've already run it up
with
the
> #1 p-lead disconnected, replaced the #1 coil and high voltage rod, and
> filled the wiring harness with two cans of WD-40, and even said a
little
> prayer.
>
> Things may have improved a little but I'm still experiencing
disconcerting
> drops. Here's what happens.
>
> I take the CJ (stock 285hp engine) out to the runup area on a field
that's
> about 100' MSL and it idles nicely and it runs up good.
>
> If I let it run for a while (like 15 minutes) and get it warm (oil at
60+C
> cylinders at 140+C) I start to get 100-200rpm drops when I have the
mags
> set to "1". It ALSO does it on "2" but *much* less often.
>
> It seems to have something to do with temperature. It doesn't start
to do
> it until it's detected that I'm pretty sure that the problem is fixed,
no
> no, that's not it... no it doesn't do it until it's good and warm. If
I
> open the cowl shutters and get it cool back to 120C it doesn't seem to
> start having the problem again until 150C or better. It's hard to say
if
> it's a function of oil temp. or of cylinder temp... although at 40C
oil
and
> 170C cylinder was the situation where it was running fine and I
thought it
> was fixed... until the oil came up to over 60C.
>
> It will run at 1800rpm on "1" for a while and then the engine will say
> "SKIT!" and I'll get a drop, it will run for 5-10 seconds and say
"SKIT!"
> again and drop.
>
> ** I can correct the problem by going back to 1+2. I have yet to see
it
> drop out on 1+2 -- excepting for the one drop I got last week coming
into
> the pattern... which is why I hesitate to take it into the air again.
>
> It seems to have something to do with power setting. If I leave it on
"1"
> it hasn't dropped out at 1500rpm ... it seems to drop out more at
2000rpm.
>
> It may have a little to do with mixture setting... if I push the
mixture
up
> to match the throttle at 1800rpm it seems to take longer for the
problem
to
> show up. Once it does, mixture doesn't seem to correct it.
>
> I'm running out of bright ideas... any suggestions?
>
> Jon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 23 Msgs - 08/25/03 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
Brian, I always knew you were long of the spoken / written word, but your
last post was a sheer joy to read! So technical! Keep it up....John
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 23 Msgs - 08/25/03 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
John W Finley wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com>
>
> Brian, I always knew you were long of the spoken / written word,
Actually, my writing/speaking reflects my German mechanical and engineering orientation.
No self respecting German engineer would use one part where one hundred
would suffice.
> but your last post was a sheer joy to read! So technical! Keep it
> up....John
Thanks. I just want everyone to be well informed and educated.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Hey Deon Don't forget me.. Can you sneak an extra m14p on hand
luggage?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deon
Esterhuizen
Subject: Yak-List: SA problems
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen"
--> <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
Jorgen
I'm an ex South African living in Tampa Florida. I will be coming back
for a visit next March , if you can wait that long and you are not
buying an engine, I can bring stuff with me. You can contact me off list
if you want.
Deon Esterhuizen
Yak52
N192YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Jorgen Nielsen [mailto:Jorgen.Nielsen@mweb.co.za]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: The YPA web site
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<Jorgen.Nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Doug is correct. Pay pal do support some international destinations,
but not South Africa.
Maybe they figure the wild animals may eat the fed-ex man? Or that we
don't have fuel here for the cargo plane's return trip?
Seriously though, I have bought many items via the net from the US and
other places. No problems. Any alternatives would be great.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug
Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Drew,
Not true, some folks outside the US can pay via pay pal. My yak guys in
AU and NZ sometimes pay in this manner but it is rather expensive for
both parties. You can go to the pay pal web site to get the list of
countries.
Always yakin,
Doug
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: parachutes, flight suits, and personality issues |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 8/26/2003 8:35:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
brian@lloyd.com writes:
> They were at Fallon.
>
> >It is, after all, the Sierra Hotel pilots only chance each year to hang out
> >with civilians, wearing real Nomex flight suits, that appear to be the
> fifth
> >to eighth month of pregnancy.
>
> Oh, you've seen me at OSH then!
>
> --
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
> brian@lloyd.com
Gee, I thought he was talking about me! I just can't gain any more girth
else I won't fit though the B-24's bomb bay!
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
Stuart,
The problem with Russian/Chinese/anything by US certificated chutes is
no one will pack 'em.
I spose we could say chutes are just bad cushions so what the hell. Fly
naked! The Brits used to go without 'til Neil Williams had the spar
break on his Zlin and had to land it at the end of a roll away from the
folded wing after flying the approach inverted. I don't think they
called him "Pinkie" (sorry Brian).
Jerry Painter
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Jerry Painter wrote:
> break on his Zlin and had to land it at the end of a roll away from the
> folded wing after flying the approach inverted. I don't think they
> called him "Pinkie" (sorry Brian).
Hey, if I am going to dish it out I had better be able to take it, right?
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
I have used the Butler seat packs for four years with good success. Mine have
the "Sombrero" fitting that allow the chute to open safely and quickly at regardless
of speed (the Sombrero is a limiter ring around the shrouds - at high any
speeds the wind holds it up to keep the chute smaller. As you slow it slides
down allowing the chute to deploy fully. At slower speeds it allows immediate
full deployment. My rigger is very impressed with it.) The seat packs have
sheepskin covers to soften the long cross country flights I make (45 hours
for OSH/MTW) , there is a pneumatic cushion for the lower back that is helpful.
Since I am one of the more chunky types, I find that anything behind my back
becomes very uncomfortable. The Butler solves this for me.
Batman
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
No problem... :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Mackereth [mailto:stuart@bramptonyork.com]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: SA problems
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth"
<stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Hey Deon Don't forget me.. Can you sneak an extra m14p on hand
luggage?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deon
Esterhuizen
Subject: Yak-List: SA problems
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen"
--> <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
Jorgen
I'm an ex South African living in Tampa Florida. I will be coming back
for a visit next March , if you can wait that long and you are not
buying an engine, I can bring stuff with me. You can contact me off list
if you want.
Deon Esterhuizen
Yak52
N192YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Jorgen Nielsen [mailto:Jorgen.Nielsen@mweb.co.za]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: The YPA web site
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<Jorgen.Nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Doug is correct. Pay pal do support some international destinations,
but not South Africa.
Maybe they figure the wild animals may eat the fed-ex man? Or that we
don't have fuel here for the cargo plane's return trip?
Seriously though, I have bought many items via the net from the US and
other places. No problems. Any alternatives would be great.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug
Subject: Re: Yak-List: The YPA web site
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Drew,
Not true, some folks outside the US can pay via pay pal. My yak guys in
AU and NZ sometimes pay in this manner but it is rather expensive for
both parties. You can go to the pay pal web site to get the list of
countries.
Always yakin,
Doug
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
I have used the Butler seat packs for four years with good success.
Mine have the "Sombrero" fitting that allow the chute to open safely and
quickly at regardless of speed (the Sombrero is a limiter ring around
the shrouds - at high any speeds the wind holds it up to keep the chute
smaller. As you slow it slides down allowing the chute to deploy fully.
At slower speeds it allows immediate full deployment. My rigger is very
impressed with it.) The seat packs have sheepskin covers to soften the
long cross country flights I make (45 hours for OSH/MTW) , there is a
pneumatic cushion for the lower back that is helpful. Since I am one of
the more chunky types, I find that anything behind my back becomes very
uncomfortable. The Butler solves this for me.
Batman
Inflatable lumbar pads are a great idea--I have them in the
seats of my 180. They are cheap, you can get them at any Toyota
supplier, and just slip them in wherever you want them. Hadn't thought
about them in my 'chute, but it should work great. Being easily
adjustable, they would be even better than the lumbar pads I have now.
As for the seat area, a thin pad of the new Spacefoam, (can't
for the life of me remember the actual name, comeon' guys, help me out)
works absolute wonders.
Lee Taylor
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Lee Taylor wrote:
> As for the seat area, a thin pad of the new Spacefoam, (can't
> for the life of me remember the actual name, comeon' guys, help me out)
"Tempurfoam" but I could be wrong on the spelling.
> works absolute wonders.
If you get enough. The guys at Oregon Aero are good about variable density foam
to spread the load evenly over your butt.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I have a rigger in Tampa Fl, who has the proper tools to rig the Russian
chutes. He just did my L-29 Chutes righ before S&F.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
Subject: Yak-List: RE: chutes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
>
> Stuart,
>
> The problem with Russian/Chinese/anything by US certificated chutes is
> no one will pack 'em.
>
> I spose we could say chutes are just bad cushions so what the hell. Fly
> naked! The Brits used to go without 'til Neil Williams had the spar
> break on his Zlin and had to land it at the end of a roll away from the
> folded wing after flying the approach inverted. I don't think they
> called him "Pinkie" (sorry Brian).
>
> Jerry Painter
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak / Nanchang Metric Instrument Panel Screws |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
Dear friends:
I was compelled by an evil force to completely dis-assemble and recondition my
Yak52 aircraft cockpits.
One of the hardest parts was dealing with the russian screws.
During removal, you'll destroy them all - it's ok though, as they need to be replaced
- American tools don't work on them.
The Russian screws are Metric, funky-Phillips, Undercut - countersunk (110degree)
Steel screws.
Not available in the Western World. Don't bother, I've checked.
I researched the entire metric screw market and found that http://www.aaronsmetricscrews.com/
was the only supplier that had what I needed.
In a Yak52, the screws you'll need are both 4mm and 3.5mm diameter.
I bought a few thousand replacement screws of various sizes.
Metric, Pan Head, Phillips, Black Oxide.
Costs a bit more to have them custom black-oxided - but worth it.
Aaron's Metric Screws did the job I paid them for in-time and on-budget.
THey didn't hassle me one bit for bringing them a special order project.
In fact, they seemed pleased to have the business (Imagine that!)
Please consider them for your future Metric Screw needs.
(and no . . you can't have none of my spare screws) .. .. ( Unless you ReAllY
neEd them!!)
TOm Johnson
Cannon Aviation Insurance
1983 Yak 52
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