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1. 07:27 AM - Re: Many Thanks! (Richard Basiliere)
2. 11:13 AM - The aftermath (Barry Hancock)
3. 11:33 AM - Re: Eng. Mount (Janet)
4. 11:52 AM - Re: Re: Eng. Mount ()
5. 10:41 PM - Re: The aftermath (Lee Taylor)
6. 10:52 PM - Re: Re: Eng. Mount (Lee Taylor)
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| Subject: | Re: Many Thanks! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
And you got the green light for saki and Oxycodone? I need your Doc's
#. Just kiddin'. Ricky B
>>> ernest.martinez@oracle.com 8/31/2003 10:56:44 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
This is a great list isn't it??
Its very nice that you acknowledge all the good folks on this list who
have
helped you with your new airplane. I'm can assure you that there's a
lot
more folks out there that you havent met yet, that are in the wings to
help
you out when you need them, just as I found out not very long ago
myself as
a new Red Star pilot. (except for a certain person out there who insist
I'm
learning how to fly via the internet).
But like any internet forum, you need to take what makes sence, and
leave
what doesnt. There are many opinions out here and its up to you to make
the
final decision as to whats right and more importantly SAFE. I find
this
forum an invaluable source of information but NEVER the ONLY source.
You can
get just as easily bad if not nessisarily mal-intentioned information
here,
this is just another place to confirm advice from knowledgeable people
whom
you can TRUST.
I have found in my experience from this list in the past year that this
list
is an indispensable source of information from some of the most
brightest
people in the biz, some you have mentioned and some you havent. There
are
lurkers out there that I personally know of that are some of the best
people
you can want to know and will help you, when in a bind but they
ususally
stay in the background and dont contribute to the clutter like myself.
Then
you have your rocket scientists (dont worry Brian/Dennis I wont mention
your
names) who will tell you in nauseating detail the tensil strength of
your
snot valve screw valve , and then other sales type people who will tell
you
that if you dont buy a plane from them you're risking your life....Your
call
(beware of the sales type). Join YPA/RPA or whatever we become, be
active,
come to the flyin's and learn about your airplane from the pro's, its
fun
and its worth it, from a money and a safety standpoint.
For those of you who know me, I just had inner ear surgery last week
and I'm
on a regiment of SAKI and pain killers right now but hope to be 100% by
next
week. Hope to see you guys at Reno if the Dr's give me the green light
to
fly.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Many Thanks!
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
>
> > As the new owner of a Yak-50 (N250BW, Bill Walkers), there are
some
people I want to publicly thank! Not only is this my first Yak, it is
my
first airplane!! Without the valuable advice, assistance, direction,
support, and friendship of these and many other people, this airplane
would
have been possible. I have found very quickly that the Yak community
is
about the best bunch of folks I have come across in 17 years of flying.
I
have had an unimaginable amount of help and guidance, some I admittedly
I
did not follow...I will make mistakes! So I look forward to this
extraordinary group of people and the fun that this airplane promises!
> >
> > So without further a due:
> >
> > My girlfriend Donna: She rocks! It took some talking her into a
single
seat airplane but she understands! The Yak-52 will come next.20
> >
> > John "Hitman" Hilterman: Hitman has been there since the very
beginning
of this search and has provided invaluable help and will serve as my
mentor
when I jump into the world of ACM! Cannot wait for that! I can at
least
provide some good tracking practice. Now all I need is a cool call
sign...and not FNG! John...simply...thanks!
> >
> > Keith "Frosty" Frost: Keith was the first person I talked to about
these
beast and he basically talked me into this airplane. I was considering
others but the deal was sealed after a few emails! Another guy who I
can
provide tracking practice too! I still have every email he has ever
sent and
refer to them often. I still owe him a phone call....
> >
> > Dean Courtney: The brains of the two of us! A good friend and
partner in
the airplane. This dude knows more about airplanes than I thought
existed.
Everytime we talk, I feel like a bigger dumbass! He knows his way
around
airplanes and people. He is one of the few natural pilots I know.
Thanks
man...now give me back my airplane!
> >
> > Mark Bitterlich: His technical help has helped me make some
important
choices and helped avoid mistakes. He is part of the "open cowl club"
and
has been honest about the ins and outs of these things.
> >
> > Dennis Savarese: If anyone knows Yaks, this guy does and has proven
that
fact on countless occasions on this forum and in phone/email
conversations.
When I finish spending my life's savings in this airplane, I will come
see
him for a replacement! Thanks Dennis....really!!
> >
> > George Coy: For giving 250BW a peek!
> >
> > Steve Beaver: For the brief but yet informative conversation about
the
history of this airplane! Too bad he has hung up his spurs when it
comes to
the Yak. A loss!
> >
> > The folks in Europe and especially the UK: Mark Jeffries and
Richard
Goode....from across the pond. Thanks guys!!
> >
> > Jill (at Carl Hayes): Damn does she know some stuff! Thanks Jill!
> >
> > To every one on this forum! I have gotten volumes of good info and
I
will support this list!!20
> >
> > If I have forgotten anyone...I apologize. I have been in the hell
hole
cleaning!
> >
> > See ya all at All Red Star!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Timothy Gagnon
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
On Saturday, August 30, 2003, at 11:58 PM, Matronics Digest Server wrote:
> Now, of course, in the "old days", you and I would have probably
> ended up in a drunken fist-fight, and be lifelong great friends
> afterwards!
>
> Lee T.
Lee,
Have you ever met John? My sense is if you got in a fist-fight with him
you friendship would be very short lived...... :)
B
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet" <terry.lewis1@comcast.net>
Hi All,
You can find interesting things during an annual inspection if you dig deep enough.
I decided that I was not getting a really good look at the inside of the lower
engine mounts
on my CJ so I got a brighter light, a bigger mirror and really cleaned this area.The
left
mount was fine but the right mount showed significant corrosion. It was covered
with a layer
of dust and oil film that hid the problem.
Thank the Air Gods that Doug Sapp had known of this problem before and had one
in stock.
This piece is a bitch of a job to replace without cutting the skin but I had
the help of an expert CJ
mechanic that had a lot of patients. If you are not sure of the condition of
your lower mounts
you might want to take a look.
Due to the downward curve of the rail that the mount rest on in the CJ it will
collect water in this area.
I live in south Fl. in a salty environment and that probably contributed to the
condition.
While we were down I found that Doug had a fix for the older smaller rubber cowl
mounts.
So I sent mine to him and he fixed them to like new condition with new inserts.
Terry Lewis
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--> Yak-List message posted by: <johnhilterman1@cox.net>
Speaking of cowl mounts, anyone know where I can get four of those spring
loaded cowl pins that hinge at the end for use on my Yak-50?
John Hilterman
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Janet
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Eng. Mount
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet" <terry.lewis1@comcast.net>
Hi All,
You can find interesting things during an annual inspection if you dig
deep enough.
I decided that I was not getting a really good look at the inside of the
lower engine mounts
on my CJ so I got a brighter light, a bigger mirror and really cleaned
this area.The left
mount was fine but the right mount showed significant corrosion. It was
covered with a layer
of dust and oil film that hid the problem.
Thank the Air Gods that Doug Sapp had known of this problem before and had
one in stock.
This piece is a bitch of a job to replace without cutting the skin but I
had the help of an expert CJ
mechanic that had a lot of patients. If you are not sure of the condition
of your lower mounts
you might want to take a look.
Due to the downward curve of the rail that the mount rest on in the CJ it
will collect water in this area.
I live in south Fl. in a salty environment and that probably contributed
to the condition.
While we were down I found that Doug had a fix for the older smaller
rubber cowl mounts.
So I sent mine to him and he fixed them to like new condition with new
inserts.
Terry Lewis
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
Lee Taylor
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Subject: Yak-List: The aftermath
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
On Saturday, August 30, 2003, at 11:58 PM, Matronics Digest Server
wrote:
> Now, of course, in the "old days", you and I would have
probably
> ended up in a drunken fist-fight, and be lifelong great friends
> afterwards!
>
> Lee T.
Lee,
Have you ever met John? My sense is if you got in a fist-fight with him
you friendship would be very short lived...... :)
Nope, but that attitude was very old-culture. Hopefully we are
a little more mature now.
Lee
B
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
Lee Taylor
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Eng. Mount
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet" <terry.lewis1@comcast.net>
Hi All,
You can find interesting things during an annual inspection if you dig
deep enough.
I decided that I was not getting a really good look at the inside of
the lower engine mounts
on my CJ so I got a brighter light, a bigger mirror and really cleaned
this area.The left
mount was fine but the right mount showed significant corrosion. It
was covered with a layer
of dust and oil film that hid the problem.
Thank the Air Gods that Doug Sapp had known of this problem before and
had one in stock.
This piece is a bitch of a job to replace without cutting the skin but
I had the help of an expert CJ
mechanic that had a lot of patients. If you are not sure of the
condition of your lower mounts
you might want to take a look.
Due to the downward curve of the rail that the mount rest on in the CJ
it will collect water in this area.
I live in south Fl. in a salty environment and that probably
contributed to the condition.
While we were down I found that Doug had a fix for the older smaller
rubber cowl mounts.
So I sent mine to him and he fixed them to like new condition with new
inserts.
Terry Lewis
Terry (& List): (from Lee Taylor)
A pet peeve of mine, since you mentioned engine mount problems,
is how many things are attached to the engine mount struts. If you are
using tiewraps for this purpose, Take 'em off, guys, please? Use adel
clamps, or at least, do something to protect the mount under the
tiewraps.
I have replaced three engine mounts in my mechanic's lifetime,
one where the tube was completely penetrated under the tiewrap. What
happens is that oil naturally collects under these very tough pieces of
nylon, dirt naturally gets in the oil, and now you have high-pressure
forced grinding compound under those tiewraps. With the vibration that
these mounts have to absorb, and the allways-slightly-loose fit of a
tiewrap, (compared to the tightness of an adel clamp), this grinding
compound WILL damage those mounts.
Sorry, guys, one of my peeves, just don't want anyone to
experience an engine mount break because of these quick-fix useages.
Tie wraps have lots of legitimate uses---on engine mounts is NOT one of
the places they can be used safely. Adel clamps, or otherwise a piece
of tubing under the tiewrap.
Lee T.
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