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Fri 09/05/03


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 05:34 AM - Re: It is.... (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     2. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: It is.... (Brian Lloyd)
     3. 11:26 AM - Re: Re: Engine Hesitation in Flight (Doug)
     4. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Engine Hesitation in Flight (Doug)
     5. 02:47 PM - Re: SRR fly-in (Lee Taylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:34:38 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: It is....
    wrbenz@cox.net, davidbitter@cox.net --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Now isn't almost (repeat almost) like seeing your baby the first time? Congrads! Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.


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    Time: 06:46:00 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: It is....
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > Now isn't almost (repeat almost) like seeing your baby the first time? No, not at all. I have five babies. I have owned nine different airplanes. I can speak as an expert here. Here are some differences between a baby and a new airplane: Airplane: You can go out and have fun with your airplane right away. Baby: They are fun from about age 7 to age 11 and then they get attitude. Airplane: "Dad, can I have $150 for a new tire?" Baby: "Dad, can I have $150 for a new set of basketball shoes?" Airplane: You know when you are going to have to do an oil change. Baby: Diaper changing always comes at inopportune moments. Airplane: Life cost is predictable and you get something back when you sell it. Baby: (20 years from now) "Dad, tuition just went up. I need another $10,000." (Airplane: "Dad, I just had a hydraulic lock. I need $10,000 for a tear-down.") Airplane: See one you like better? Sell your old one and buy a new one. Baby: Yeah, right. You can just imagine what your wife is going to cut off if you even think this. So, while there are some similarities there are some substantial differences. Airplanes are far easier to deal with. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4


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    Time: 11:26:49 AM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Engine Hesitation in Flight
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> Frank, I have several CJ harnesses that I am pulling apart for parts to keep the guys going. If you need the braided shielding let me know the length of the ones you need. I have one harness that only has 100 hours on it, so it is in great condition. Also, go to your local commercial electrical contractor's shop, ask him for some of the lube they use when pulling wires through conduit. It is the nastiest, snottiest, stuff you have ever had on your hands but it will make the wires slip through the harness much easier. I think Greenlee makes it. Best, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: Engine Hesitation in Flight > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > Andrew; > As you may know, I'm in the process of changing out my spark plug wires. > I can say this much....I agree with whomever said that it was a bitch of > a job. I've been at it every evening this week and I've only gotten the > front row of plug wires done. My recommendation is to have a shop do > it........ unless you enjoy tinkering around. > > During this process I've learned a few things. The bottom row of plug > wires had water in them. The outer rubber covering of the > overbraid/sheilding acted as a perfect reservoir to hold water. Now that > I think about it, all the weird problems I've been having cropped up > since I washed the engine with water based degreaser. > > Some of the overbraid on a few leads had broken in two possibly > (probably) contributing to cross fire between cylinders. The fact that > the overbraid was broken on a few wires was hidden by the outer, rubber > covering of the wire. The whole system was a mess yet it looked good > externally. > > A few wires exhibited cracking near the magneto. Bottom line is that the > ignition system was a mess while it looked good from the outside. If > you're having weird engine problems then this is the first place I would > look. You will not know the condition of your ignition system until you > take it apart!` > > For what it's worth (FWIW) > Frank > N9110M > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Dougherty > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: RE: Engine Hesitation in Flight > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Andrew Dougherty <atdougherty@yahoo.com> > > I appreciate the input, as I mentioned in an earlier > message this came about as a result of an engine > hesitation during flight with no changes in inputs to > the control. The only appreciable change was that the > aircraft flew through some precip, hence all the buzz > about water soaked leads. > > However, after running rough (hesitation) for a while > anywhere from 5 to 10 seconds (the longest 5 to 10 > seconds of my life) the engine came back to normal > operation. Could the moisture penetrate the old > leads, cause degraded conduit, and then clear itself > up? > > Due to this inconsistency I am also considering a fuel > pressure issue as this is another possibility. As I > know from my days working on my MGB (british sports > car) the only two problems with an engine not running > right are fuel or ignition (of course!) and as I have > said, this problem has plagued me before though > usually just after takeoff and upon changing the > attitude and or power of the AC from take off to > cruise. > > Cheers > > Andrew > > > Savage Magneto's > 2415 Radley Court > Hayward, Ca 94544 > 510-782-7081 > > Al Marcucci, owner > > Hope this helps and tell AL hello for me!! > > Mark Schrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Johnson [mailto:tjohnson@cannonaviation.com] > To: atdougherty@yahoo.com; Mark Schrick > Subject: Mag lead wires > > > Andrew . . > Think hard about pulling all new lead wires. > It's a big job. > It is a "one day" job like you said, but only in > Alaska, when the sun never sets! > > I've pulled 3 bad wires through on mine. > Do you have a lead tester? Beg / borrow / or steal > one. > Find bad wires and do them individually if you have > to. > > One of the problems you will have is finding 5mm plug > wire. > It is coveted. > Another problem is all the little fittings and > trimming that have to be done. > There are tricks we've learned if you go forward. > > If you really want to replace all your wires, do > yourself a favor and contact Al at Savage Magneto. > Al may have a whole replacement ignition "ring" all > built up and ready to install. > Furthermore, the wires that Al makes up are far > superior due to his treatment of the ends. > > I've copied Mark Schrick . . who I hope has Al's > contact information. > I have pictures of the wire pulling process if you go > that way. > > Sincerely. > Tj > > __________________________________ > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > >


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    Time: 11:27:04 AM PST US
    From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Engine Hesitation in Flight
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> Frank, I have several CJ harnesses that I am pulling apart for parts to keep the guys going. If you need the braided shielding let me know the length of the ones you need. I have one harness that only has 100 hours on it, so it is in great condition. Also, go to your local commercial electrical contractor's shop, ask him for some of the lube they use when pulling wires through conduit. It is the nastiest, snottiest, stuff you have ever had on your hands but it will make the wires slip through the harness much easier. I think Greenlee makes it. Best, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: Engine Hesitation in Flight > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > Andrew; > As you may know, I'm in the process of changing out my spark plug wires. > I can say this much....I agree with whomever said that it was a bitch of > a job. I've been at it every evening this week and I've only gotten the > front row of plug wires done. My recommendation is to have a shop do > it........ unless you enjoy tinkering around. > > During this process I've learned a few things. The bottom row of plug > wires had water in them. The outer rubber covering of the > overbraid/sheilding acted as a perfect reservoir to hold water. Now that > I think about it, all the weird problems I've been having cropped up > since I washed the engine with water based degreaser. > > Some of the overbraid on a few leads had broken in two possibly > (probably) contributing to cross fire between cylinders. The fact that > the overbraid was broken on a few wires was hidden by the outer, rubber > covering of the wire. The whole system was a mess yet it looked good > externally. > > A few wires exhibited cracking near the magneto. Bottom line is that the > ignition system was a mess while it looked good from the outside. If > you're having weird engine problems then this is the first place I would > look. You will not know the condition of your ignition system until you > take it apart!` > > For what it's worth (FWIW) > Frank > N9110M > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Dougherty > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: RE: Engine Hesitation in Flight > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Andrew Dougherty <atdougherty@yahoo.com> > > I appreciate the input, as I mentioned in an earlier > message this came about as a result of an engine > hesitation during flight with no changes in inputs to > the control. The only appreciable change was that the > aircraft flew through some precip, hence all the buzz > about water soaked leads. > > However, after running rough (hesitation) for a while > anywhere from 5 to 10 seconds (the longest 5 to 10 > seconds of my life) the engine came back to normal > operation. Could the moisture penetrate the old > leads, cause degraded conduit, and then clear itself > up? > > Due to this inconsistency I am also considering a fuel > pressure issue as this is another possibility. As I > know from my days working on my MGB (british sports > car) the only two problems with an engine not running > right are fuel or ignition (of course!) and as I have > said, this problem has plagued me before though > usually just after takeoff and upon changing the > attitude and or power of the AC from take off to > cruise. > > Cheers > > Andrew > > > Savage Magneto's > 2415 Radley Court > Hayward, Ca 94544 > 510-782-7081 > > Al Marcucci, owner > > Hope this helps and tell AL hello for me!! > > Mark Schrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Johnson [mailto:tjohnson@cannonaviation.com] > To: atdougherty@yahoo.com; Mark Schrick > Subject: Mag lead wires > > > Andrew . . > Think hard about pulling all new lead wires. > It's a big job. > It is a "one day" job like you said, but only in > Alaska, when the sun never sets! > > I've pulled 3 bad wires through on mine. > Do you have a lead tester? Beg / borrow / or steal > one. > Find bad wires and do them individually if you have > to. > > One of the problems you will have is finding 5mm plug > wire. > It is coveted. > Another problem is all the little fittings and > trimming that have to be done. > There are tricks we've learned if you go forward. > > If you really want to replace all your wires, do > yourself a favor and contact Al at Savage Magneto. > Al may have a whole replacement ignition "ring" all > built up and ready to install. > Furthermore, the wires that Al makes up are far > superior due to his treatment of the ends. > > I've copied Mark Schrick . . who I hope has Al's > contact information. > I have pictures of the wire pulling process if you go > that way. > > Sincerely. > Tj > > __________________________________ > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > >


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    Time: 02:47:27 PM PST US
    From: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
    Subject: SRR fly-in
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com> John: This is embarassing, but what are the dates for the fly-in again? Just might bring my new lady down. Lee Taylor > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > John W Finley > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:03 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: SRR fly-in > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: John W Finley <finleycj6@juno.com> > > Gentlemen, > All pilots that are planning to attend the Ruidoso, NM > fly-in / clinic > please make your hotel reservations now. ( Comfort Inn Suites > (505)257-2770 ) and request the YPA discount rate of $59.00. All rooms > not reserved by the 7th will be returned to their inventory. > If you want > a rental car call Enterprise at (505)257-1154 and ask for the YPA > discount ( Mgr. Mark Bickerton). I would appreciate sending > me an e-mail > note when you register to get an idea about our transportation > needs....Thanks, John Finley > > > ========== > ========== > ========== > ========== > > > > >




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