Yak-List Digest Archive

Mon 09/15/03


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:12 AM - Re: Prop Govenor Problem? (Yakjock)
     2. 07:42 AM - Re: Prop Govenor Problem? (Richard Basiliere)
     3. 09:37 AM - Re: Prop Govenor Problem? (Walt Lannon)
     4. 10:27 AM - Re: Prop Govenor Problem? (Bill Halverson)
     5. 12:40 PM - New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
     6. 02:01 PM - Fuel lines  (Txusma y Merche)
     7. 04:23 PM - ADC oil filter (Tom Johnson)
     8. 05:26 PM - Re: ADC oil filter (A. Dennis Savarese)
     9. 07:14 PM - Re: Fuel lines  (Gus Fraser)
    10. 09:42 PM - CJ Prop Nut Torque Specification (Dennis Von Ruden)
    11. 10:30 PM - Metric hardware (Dean Courtney)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:12:01 AM PST US
    From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop Govenor Problem?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Regarding altitudes, here in the Northwest I routinely climb to 10,000 to clear mountains, and have been known to go to 15,500 for weather. Hal Morley CJ-6A "8" (503) 704-6559 cell


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    Time: 07:42:54 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Re: Prop Govenor Problem?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Sir; I concur. You shouldn't have any problems at that "low" he.he. altitude. There are 5 Yak-52's, 2 Yak-55's , 2 SU-26's, and 2 SU-29's operating out of the Denver area. I get only 700mm for take off on my SU-29 density altitude yesterday was 7900' on the ground. I've never heard of your problem in any of our "high altitude" Red Star types and we normally "dive into the aerobatic box" from 10,000msl. or so. I typically travel to AZ to compete at altitudes of 12,500 to 16,500, with O2 - of course - with no problems engine wise, cold toes yes. Ricky B >>> jayatnowra@hotmail.com 9/14/2003 4:17:05 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com> Hi all... unsure exactly what is going on here, but the following problem was relayed to me by one of our syndicate members. I assume it is a problem as I can think of no reason why it should be happening, but I would love to be wrong. If anyone can shed some light.... Anyway, the aircraft took off and was climbed normally to a height of 7000 ft (unusally high for our a/c). All was good until he went to reduce the power for cruise. The manifold pressure was reduced to approx 660 but on moving the prop control there was no change in RPM for at least 4 inchs of lever travel when he at last was able to reduce RPM to approx 2050. He was not keen to move the lever any further aft in case there was a problem. On descending normal prop control was regained at about 3000 ft and all was good for the rest of the flight. Our a/c does not normally go to these extremes of altitude but I cannot see any reason why altitude would have any effect. All engine temps and pressures were in the green at all times. Any ideas? <EM>Regards, Jay</EM> P.S. see you at Classic Fighters 2005! <A href="http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/">www.classicfighters.co.nz Gaming galore at <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMUENNZ/2731??PS=">XtraMSN Gaming!


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    Time: 09:37:58 AM PST US
    From: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
    Subject: Re: Prop Govenor Problem?
    tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.55 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca> Depending on the outside air temp. and the type of oil used it could be a simple case of congealed oil in the prop. pitch change cylinder. Not an unusual problem with counterweight props. In cold weather you should cycle the prop. periodically to avoid this. Use of a multi-grade oil also helps. The fact that it returned to normal on descent indicates this may be your problem. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "TALew" <TALew@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Prop Govenor Problem? > --> Yak-List message posted by: "TALew" <TALew@comcast.net> > > > Hi, > The first time I had that problem it was the control tube > that was slipping in the clamp on the front of the engine. > Good Luck > Terry Lewis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Prop Govenor Problem? > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com> > > > > Hi all... unsure exactly what is going on here, but the following problem > was relayed to me by one of our syndicate members. I assume it is a problem > as I can think of no reason why it should be happening, but I would love to > be wrong. If anyone can shed some light.... > > Anyway, the aircraft took off and was climbed normally to a height of > 7000 ft (unusally high for our a/c). All was good until he went to reduce > the power for cruise. The manifold pressure was reduced to approx 660 but on > moving the prop control there was no change in RPM for at least 4 inchs of > lever travel when he at last was able to reduce RPM to approx 2050. He was > not keen to move the lever any further aft in case there was a problem. > > On descending normal prop control was regained at about 3000 ft and all > was good for the rest of the flight. > > Our a/c does not normally go to these extremes of altitude but I cannot > see any reason why altitude would have any effect. All engine temps and > pressures were in the green at all times. > > Any ideas? > > > > > > <EM>Regards, Jay</EM> > > > > P.S. see you at Classic Fighters 2005! > > > > <A href="http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/">www.classicfighters.co.nz > > > > > > Gaming galore at <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMUENNZ/2731??PS=">XtraMSN > Gaming! > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:27:00 AM PST US
    From: Bill Halverson <william@netpros.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop Govenor Problem?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bill Halverson <william@netpros.net> That's odd .. I cruise Xcntry around 10k all over CA and NV [did a smoke air show at burning man 3 weekends ago] and have not had this problem. Bill Halverson YAK-55 At 08:41 AM 9/15/2003 -0600, you wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" ><BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> > >Sir; I concur. You shouldn't have any problems at that "low" he.he. >altitude. There are 5 Yak-52's, 2 Yak-55's , 2 SU-26's, and 2 SU-29's >operating out of the Denver area. I get only 700mm for take off on my >SU-29 density altitude yesterday was 7900' on the ground. I've never >heard of your problem in any of our "high altitude" Red Star types and >we normally "dive into the aerobatic box" from 10,000msl. or so. I >typically travel to AZ to compete at altitudes of 12,500 to 16,500, with >O2 - of course - with no problems engine wise, cold toes yes. Ricky B > > >>> jayatnowra@hotmail.com 9/14/2003 4:17:05 AM >>> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" ><jayatnowra@hotmail.com> > >Hi all... unsure exactly what is going on here, but the following >problem was relayed to me by one of our syndicate members. I assume it >is a problem as I can think of no reason why it should be happening, but >I would love to be wrong. If anyone can shed some light.... > Anyway, the aircraft took off and was climbed normally to a height of >7000 ft (unusally high for our a/c). All was good until he went to >reduce the power for cruise. The manifold pressure was reduced to approx >660 but on moving the prop control there was no change in RPM for at >least 4 inchs of lever travel when he at last was able to reduce RPM to >approx 2050. He was not keen to move the lever any further aft in case >there was a problem. > On descending normal prop control was regained at about 3000 ft and >all was good for the rest of the flight. >Our a/c does not normally go to these extremes of altitude but I cannot >see any reason why altitude would have any effect. All engine temps and >pressures were in the green at all times. >Any ideas?


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    Time: 12:40:58 PM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
    Subject: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics...
    --> Yak-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Dear Listers, I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-) The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent solution. I will post a follow up message later in the week when things have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 02:01:45 PM PST US
    From: "Txusma y Merche" <jsagastuy@euskalnet.net>
    Subject: Fuel lines
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Txusma y Merche" <jsagastuy@euskalnet.net> Hello, My fuel lines are expired (more than 5 years), what can we do ?? We have to buy or it is posible to refurbish, changing the lines with the same connectors ?? Please give same advice. Thank you in advance Jesus


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    Time: 04:23:55 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
    Subject: ADC oil filter
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Does anybody have any installation pictures of the square ADC filter on a Yak52. Appreciate any details or descriptions of the installation from those who have done it or have seen it. I know the general location and principles, but looking to see how the filter was actually attached to the engine mount. More details the better, Please respond off list. Thanks Tj ********************************** Thomas Johnson Senior Account Executive 1983 Yak 52 Tel: 800-851-2997 Fax: 480-951-1455 Cell: 602-628-2701 E: tjohnson@cannonaviation.com


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    Time: 05:26:20 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: ADC oil filter
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Tom, The ADC filter IS mounted to the engine mount. If you find someone with a new 52W or TW, they have the ADC filter installed. I will email you a photo of one that I use in my TW training class. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Subject: Yak-List: ADC oil filter > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > Does anybody have any installation pictures of the square ADC filter on a Yak52. > Appreciate any details or descriptions of the installation from those who have done it or have seen it. > I know the general location and principles, but looking to see how the filter was actually attached to the engine mount. > > More details the better, > Please respond off list. > > Thanks > > > Tj > > > ********************************** > Thomas Johnson > Senior Account Executive > 1983 Yak 52 > Tel: 800-851-2997 > Fax: 480-951-1455 > Cell: 602-628-2701 > E: tjohnson@cannonaviation.com > >


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    Time: 07:14:26 PM PST US
    From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fuel lines
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> George Coy Gesoco will use your fittings and fit US spec tube. I am sure that there are others out there that will do the same but that's where I got mine done. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Txusma y Merche Subject: Yak-List: Fuel lines --> Yak-List message posted by: "Txusma y Merche" <jsagastuy@euskalnet.net> Hello, My fuel lines are expired (more than 5 years), what can we do ?? We have to buy or it is posible to refurbish, changing the lines with the same connectors ?? Please give same advice. Thank you in advance Jesus


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    Time: 09:42:01 PM PST US
    Subject: CJ Prop Nut Torque Specification
    From: "Dennis Von Ruden" <dvonruden@generalequip.com>
    HTML_MESSAGE, PRIORITY_NO_NAME@matronics.com --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dennis Von Ruden" <dvonruden@generalequip.com> Is there a published torque specification for the differential nut utilized on the J9G1 propeller? Might have missed it, but I have not seen any torque specification printed in the service and overhaul manuals. I have a huge torque wrench, complete with a socket, that was included in the service tools. The socket fits the differential nut. I have had the aircraft completely disassembled during the restoration and do not know where else this wrench could be used. Thanks for your help. Dennis Von Ruden dvonruden@generalequip.com


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    Time: 10:30:58 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Courtney" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Metric hardware
    MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dean Courtney" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com> Yakers, I am new to the world of metric hardware, and trying to support a Russian airplane. Where do you get AN/MS quality metric bolts & nuts for use in our aircraft? I have a control cable change pending and need to replace the galled & corroded bolts & castle nuts that attach them. Also, what the heck size/thread pitch are the inspection panel screws? For that matter what thread pitch do Russians use when building an airplane? Is it specific to them, or a common metric value? Any help/education would be much appreciated. Thanks! Dean Courtney Yak 50 84-2305 deancourtney696@hotmail.com Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee.




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