Yak-List Digest Archive

Sat 09/20/03


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 06:52 AM - Re: Relocation paperwork (Gus Fraser)
     2. 05:31 PM - Shakhty Factory GM responds to Mark Jefferies miss guided comments...........YAK Over Hauls. (Mark Schrick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:52:03 AM PST US
    From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Relocation paperwork
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> there are exceptions to this. After 9-11 I moved my aircraft to Old Bridge from Linden to escape the TFR. The FSDO at Teterboro were happy with a letter addendum to my letter of auth. There can be latitude at the local level but Dennis is quite right they are well within their rights to ask for it. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Here's the sad truth of the situation. If the Operating Limitations have the home-base airport listed in them (and most, but not all do), then the OL's must be reissued because the home-base airport changes and the 300 NM Proficiency Area changes, regardless if anything else changes. Then because the OL's and Special Airworthiness Certificate are married together, when the OL's change due to the aforementioned, a new Special Airworthiness Certificate must be issued. To get a Special Airworthiness Certificate one must complete an 8130-6, Application for Airworthiness Certificate. Even though the Special Airworthiness Certificate has no expiration once the OL's change the current Airworthiness Certificate is void and vice versa. With regards to inspecting the airplane, we all know the FAA has the "right" to inspect the airplane if they so choose. However, if you show the FSDO person your current log books when you turn in the 8130-6, pointing out the most recent signed off annual condition inspection, they typically accept that as meeting the inspection requirements since obviously the airplane had to already have gone through and airwortiness certification inspection, which BTW may also be signed off in your log books. Lastly and even more ridiculous is, if you move your airplane from your present home base airport to another airport, say 8 miles away, you have to go through the same rigmarole. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> > > Do whatever you think is best, but I would politely tell them I want to see > the requirement for a new airworthiness inspection in writing in the ops > procedures. I don't believe it exists. > > > >From: "Dave Strawn" <dastrawn@mindspring.com> > >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com > >To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:01:18 -0400 > > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dave Strawn" <dastrawn@mindspring.com> > > > >Craig, > > > >I just moved my plane from California to Atlanta and the local FSDO here is > >requiring that I complete an 8130-6 form and they must come out inspect my > >plane and reissue the airworthiness certificate. The original > >airworthiness > >cert. was done in California. I quess that's not acceptable in Georgia > >(joke). They will redo the operating limitations also, but I expected > >that. > >I've worked with the USDA in the food business for 20 years and the FAA is > >similar, i.e., no two regional offices interpret the regulations the same. > >Will just suffer through it unless someone has a better suggestion. > > > >Misery likes company, > > > >Dave Strawn > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <cpayne@joimail.com> > >To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com > > > > > > Well, just when I thought the FAA paperwork was going to go > > > rather smooth for my move, the local FSDO must have > > > appointed a newbie to learn the ropes. My A/C has been > > > flying 8 years over here on Chicago FSDO restrictions but > > > now my CJ is in the Orlando FSDO. Has anyone been required > > > to submit a copy of their "inspection program identifying > > > the person responsible for scheduling and performing the > > > inspections"? > > > > > > Craig Payne > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:31:05 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: Shakhty Factory GM responds to Mark Jefferies miss guided comments...........YAK
    Over Hauls. --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> Since I am a Aerostar YAK 52TW Dealer, Mr Baranov asked me if I would post this email in response to Mark Jefferies allegations of "paper over hauls" and quality of work. I am ONLY the messenger as requested. This is not my option. - M Schrick To all Yak List readers from Shakhty O/H facility, My name is Stan Baranov. I with interest watch discussion around of Mark Jefferies application about quality of YAK repair in Shakhty. I live in Shakhty, worked at this factory since 1993 and now I repair the planes which then I sell to the US and Europe market here 7 years. I think, that I can tell you, that I know the factory within very well. Better than Mark Jefferies. The Mark Jefferies statement based on its supervision and the analysis of a situation, at least, are frivolous. Also it is not necessary to perceive it seriously. Mr. Jefferies does not know any situations with aviation spare parts in Russia. I am pleasantly surprised with that Roger Baker quite right describes the situation with presence of spare parts in Shakhty. It is necessary to recognize, that some deficiency of spare parts for YAK planes is now left, but the question is those spare parts that are disposal at the factory since of the USSR times. Now any spare parts can be bought at aviation factories in Smolensk, Saratov, Arsenyev and other locations. These spare parts cost dearly and prices with continue to go UP, but they are available and our factory continues to repair an YAK aircraft. Certainly. In working with the factory there is also a poor-quality performance of repair, but these are single cases. That fact, that a factory pays few attention to external both internal design and comfort of planes, is explainable that till 90 years the factory repaired Yak aircraft which had no one proprietor, and had the collective proprietor who needed only conformity of technical parameters of the planes after repair, and painting and an interior were standard and could not be others is it was forbidden. Now we too can do a EXCELLENT interior paint and detailed if a customers will ask it. We have no painting chamber and consequently we sell a YAK planes without painting. It is possible to speak about problems of the organization of repair at the factory, but it is possible to judge quality of repair, only having seen the plane after repair in Shakhty. I think, that all my clients who have bought from me the Yak planes repaired in Shakhty can judge it is it will be fair. We have no one asking for their money back as some customers using Lithuania facility have requested. I for a long time have known of Mark Jefferies. I think, that a scandals and sensations are a common component of his business probably it considers, that about it began to forget he worked with us and it needs to be reminded of itself. Everyone does business judge our work. I think all for fair criticism from customers and critics alike she helps us to work. I hope, that in future we shall disappoint less our clients and be the best O/H facility in the world. We are the only facility that has all the jigs, blue prints and knowledge to do the job for YAK's. No one else. We want to EARN your business in the USA and Europe. Thanks for kind words Mr Jefferies. I understand, that we should assert own correctness of business and HIGH QUALITY of repair of YAK planes for now and in the FUTURE! Regards Stan Baranov Mark SHREK Schrick YAK Driver, Inc Western USA Dealer for AEROSTAR (Yak 52TW /W) Fully Restored YAK 52s, Can help met anyones budget !! 966 Wallace Drive San Jose, Ca 95120-1848 (408) 323-5150 phone / fax (408) 391-6664 cell schrick@pacbell.net www.YAKDRIVER.com




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