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1. 10:47 AM - Re: Aukward air leak (Jorgen Nielsen)
2. 02:43 PM - Jefferies-Baranov (Roger Baker)
3. 03:22 PM - Re: Jefferies-Baranov (Brian Lloyd)
4. 05:41 PM - Re: Aukward air leak (A. Dennis Savarese)
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| Subject: | Re: Aukward air leak |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Hi & Thanks Andrew
Not discounting the actuator, but by listening closely and feeling around it
seems the leak is in the pipes somewhere, certainly inboard of the actuator
mechanism.
What a hassle! There are the inspection plates around the gear and inboard
of the wing, I will have to pull those to track down the leak - didn't have
the right tools with me at the time. Anyone else ever have similar
problems, some advice would be welcome.
regards
Jorgen
--> Yak-List message posted by: Andrew Dougherty <atdougherty@yahoo.com>
Are you sure the problem is in the pipes, I had a leak
and isolated it to the up nose
gear actuator, I was told that usually the problem is
in an actuator, if yours is near the wing root it
might be in one of the main gear (port side?), if so
you need to remove the actuator, take it apart and
replace the seal that is ruptured. Ensure first that
the gear is secured down or the plane is jacked up.
--- Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi Group
>
> Went to fly my Yak52 today but air was leaking out
> faster than the
> compressor could put it back in, so no flying for
> me.
>
> This was after about an 1 1/2 hours of effort to
> fish out an unknown pair of
> sunglasses I found when slapping the fuse aft of the
> cockpit on pre-flight,
> heard something bouncing around. After much effort
> and feling like a gynae
> I managed to get them out.
>
> Then on the taxi for fuel the air pressure was going
> down instead of up.
>
> Noticed on previous flights when on the ground the
> air was not charging up
> quickly, but no probs in the air. Turns out the
> leak is in the cavity in
> the port wing just forward of the flap, with flaps
> down one can see the
> pipes carrying air for the brake and the gear
> mechanism, it must be the gear
> down pipe that is leaking. Can hear the hissing,
> but cant find a way of
> getting to the pipes. The leak must be between the
> battery box and the
> attach point or flap, anyone ever have this happen
> to them, or ideas on how
> to get to it? Can one draw out all the pipes? Or
> worst case does it mean
> taking wing apart?
>
> Hoping for ideas!
>
> Regads
> Jorgen
>
>
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| Subject: | Jefferies-Baranov |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Baker" <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
To all Yak List readers:
I am sorry to be involved in this mostly useless controversy begun by
Mr. Jefferies and then worsened by an exchange of postings between Mr.
Jefferies and Mr. Stan Baranov.
First, there needs to be a correction posted as to Mr. Baranovs' status
and relationship with the Shakty Yak Overhaul Factory. Somewhere in the
transmittal process from Mr. Baranov onto the Yak List, the impression was
attached to Baranovs' posting that he is the GM (General Manager?) of the
Shakty factory. Also, Baranovs message gave the impression that he is an
employee of the Shakty factory...probably as a result of his limited command
of English. Neither of these impressions are correct. Mr. Baranov is not
an employee of the "Shakty Factory".
He is a resident of the town of Shakty. He is an independent business
man. He contracts with the Shakty factory for overhaul services for the
products that he subsequently sells where he finds a market. I am told that
he also occasionally functions as a parts finder for the Shakty
facility....dealing mostly with the other production factories in Russia.
I do not know Mr. Baranov or Mr. Jefferies. I have never met either of
them, spoken to either or corresponded with either of them. I know nothing
of the history between Baranov and Jefferies. The last two Yak 52s with
which I have been familiar that were overhauled at Shakty were contracted
through Baranov. They arrived here in the U.S. as contracted; in fine
overhauled condition, and on budget. This is a typical (in my experience)
result of the factory at Shakty.
If there is old, "bad blood" between Jefferies and Baranov; they need
to meet in a pub some where and talk it out. Failing that, they maybe need
to go out back of that pub and settle it there. But, this forum is not the
place to air or resolve their differences.
REB
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| Subject: | Re: Jefferies-Baranov |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Roger Baker wrote:
> If there is old, "bad blood" between Jefferies and Baranov; they need
> to meet in a pub some where and talk it out. Failing that, they maybe need
> to go out back of that pub and settle it there. But, this forum is not the
> place to air or resolve their differences.
Mr. Baker, [not] resolving differences has always been a popular sport on this
list. How else do you propose that we get our entertainment? ;
)
You wouldn't happen to be the same Roger Baker with whom I attended school in West
Covina, CA, would you?
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
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GMT-4
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| Subject: | Re: Aukward air leak |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
More than likely it's a seal in the actuator or a bad flexible hose.
Dennis Savarese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Dougherty" <atdougherty@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Aukward air leak
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Andrew Dougherty <atdougherty@yahoo.com>
>
> Are you sure the problem is in the pipes, I had a leak
> and isolated it to the up nose
> gear actuator, I was told that usually the problem is
> in an actuator, if yours is near the wing root it
> might be in one of the main gear (port side?), if so
> you need to remove the actuator, take it apart and
> replace the seal that is ruptured. Ensure first that
> the gear is secured down or the plane is jacked up.
>
>
> --- Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> > <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> >
> > Hi Group
> >
> > Went to fly my Yak52 today but air was leaking out
> > faster than the
> > compressor could put it back in, so no flying for
> > me.
> >
> > This was after about an 1 1/2 hours of effort to
> > fish out an unknown pair of
> > sunglasses I found when slapping the fuse aft of the
> > cockpit on pre-flight,
> > heard something bouncing around. After much effort
> > and feling like a gynae
> > I managed to get them out.
> >
> > Then on the taxi for fuel the air pressure was going
> > down instead of up.
> >
> > Noticed on previous flights when on the ground the
> > air was not charging up
> > quickly, but no probs in the air. Turns out the
> > leak is in the cavity in
> > the port wing just forward of the flap, with flaps
> > down one can see the
> > pipes carrying air for the brake and the gear
> > mechanism, it must be the gear
> > down pipe that is leaking. Can hear the hissing,
> > but cant find a way of
> > getting to the pipes. The leak must be between the
> > battery box and the
> > attach point or flap, anyone ever have this happen
> > to them, or ideas on how
> > to get to it? Can one draw out all the pipes? Or
> > worst case does it mean
> > taking wing apart?
> >
> > Hoping for ideas!
> >
> > Regads
> > Jorgen
> >
> >
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