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1. 06:30 AM - Re: All Red Star III (Ron Davis)
2. 07:34 AM - Re: All Red Star III (Lee Taylor)
3. 08:07 AM - Re: All Red Star III (Gus Fraser)
4. 09:00 AM - Re: All Red Star III (Cy Galley)
5. 10:51 AM - October 4-5 fly-in in Illinois (John Alber)
6. 12:46 PM - [ Alan Cockrell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
7. 12:54 PM - [ Charles F. Long ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
8. 02:01 PM - "Eastern" Red Star Event (Jeff Linebaugh)
9. 02:07 PM - looking for someone in ne area (DFCPAC@aol.com)
10. 03:23 PM - FIVE-Yak 18T - 5 place aircraft FOR SALE in GREAT SHAPE (Mark Schrick)
11. 07:52 PM - Re: East Coast All Red Star (A. Dennis Savarese)
12. 08:02 PM - Wing Access Holes (PSalter@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star III |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Burt Rutan says that if the west coast had been discovered first and the
U.S. populated toward the east that no one would live east of Denver.
Do you want to go on record as opposing Burt Rutan's opinion?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Good point Dennis,
> There is a world to the east of the Rockies
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Once again, the majority of the folks east of the Mississippi won't be
> attending unless we decide to either have an All Red Star-East or a more
> centralized US location for the May 19-23 convention. Either that or
maybe
> start alternating east and west every other year.
> Dennis Savarese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Although ICAS won't be publishing their firmed up 2004 schedule until
> after their Dec organizers meet, we are suggesting the following dates for
> the 2004 All Red Star convention;
> >
> > Wed May 19 - Sunday May 23
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly if you know of a major western regional
> event on that weekend...
> >
> > Once again, the first three days would be geared for FAST and ACM. We
> have waivered airspace and full FAA/County support so the weekend should
> provide a new dynamic to the event for those of you with 800 or lower
> cards...
> >
> > Look for the Oct issue of pilot journal magazine on the 2003 event and
> your association.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Drew
> >
> >
> > Drew Blahnick
> > YPA/RedStar Pilots Association
> > Cell310-386-9181
> > www.yakpilots.org
> > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | All Red Star III |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor " <leetay1@idcomm.com>
Lee Taylor
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Davis
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 6:30 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> Burt Rutan says that if the west coast had been discovered
> first and the
> U.S. populated toward the east that no one would live east of Denver.
Actually, they would have taken one glance at what existed east
of Reno, and ran back to where they came from! No one in their right
mind would have ever attempted a continental crossing with that at the
START of their trip.
Lee
>
> Do you want to go on record as opposing Burt Rutan's opinion?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > Good point Dennis,
> > There is a world to the east of the Rockies
> >
> > Gus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> > Savarese
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > Once again, the majority of the folks east of the
> Mississippi won't be
> > attending unless we decide to either have an All Red
> Star-East or a more
> > centralized US location for the May 19-23 convention.
> Either that or
> maybe
> > start alternating east and west every other year.
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick"
> <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Although ICAS won't be publishing their firmed up 2004
> schedule until
> > after their Dec organizers meet, we are suggesting the
> following dates for
> > the 2004 All Red Star convention;
> > >
> > > Wed May 19 - Sunday May 23
> > >
> > > Feel free to e-mail me directly if you know of a major
> western regional
> > event on that weekend...
> > >
> > > Once again, the first three days would be geared for FAST
> and ACM. We
> > have waivered airspace and full FAA/County support so the
> weekend should
> > provide a new dynamic to the event for those of you with
> 800 or lower
> > cards...
> > >
> > > Look for the Oct issue of pilot journal magazine on the
> 2003 event and
> > your association.
> > >
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Drew
> > >
> > >
> > > Drew Blahnick
> > > YPA/RedStar Pilots Association
> > > Cell310-386-9181
> > > www.yakpilots.org
> > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | All Red Star III |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Ah California home of Swazenager and Huffington
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Davis
Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Burt Rutan says that if the west coast had been discovered first and the
U.S. populated toward the east that no one would live east of Denver.
Do you want to go on record as opposing Burt Rutan's opinion?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Good point Dennis,
> There is a world to the east of the Rockies
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Once again, the majority of the folks east of the Mississippi won't be
> attending unless we decide to either have an All Red Star-East or a more
> centralized US location for the May 19-23 convention. Either that or
maybe
> start alternating east and west every other year.
> Dennis Savarese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Although ICAS won't be publishing their firmed up 2004 schedule until
> after their Dec organizers meet, we are suggesting the following dates for
> the 2004 All Red Star convention;
> >
> > Wed May 19 - Sunday May 23
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly if you know of a major western regional
> event on that weekend...
> >
> > Once again, the first three days would be geared for FAST and ACM. We
> have waivered airspace and full FAA/County support so the weekend should
> provide a new dynamic to the event for those of you with 800 or lower
> cards...
> >
> > Look for the Oct issue of pilot journal magazine on the 2003 event and
> your association.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Drew
> >
> >
> > Drew Blahnick
> > YPA/RedStar Pilots Association
> > Cell310-386-9181
> > www.yakpilots.org
> > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star III |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Wasn't Rutan the one that puts the prop on the "wrong" end of the
airplane??? <GRIN>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Ah California home of Swazenager and Huffington
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Davis
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> Burt Rutan says that if the west coast had been discovered first and the
> U.S. populated toward the east that no one would live east of Denver.
>
> Do you want to go on record as opposing Burt Rutan's opinion?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > Good point Dennis,
> > There is a world to the east of the Rockies
> >
> > Gus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> > Savarese
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > Once again, the majority of the folks east of the Mississippi won't be
> > attending unless we decide to either have an All Red Star-East or a more
> > centralized US location for the May 19-23 convention. Either that or
> maybe
> > start alternating east and west every other year.
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Although ICAS won't be publishing their firmed up 2004 schedule until
> > after their Dec organizers meet, we are suggesting the following dates
for
> > the 2004 All Red Star convention;
> > >
> > > Wed May 19 - Sunday May 23
> > >
> > > Feel free to e-mail me directly if you know of a major western
regional
> > event on that weekend...
> > >
> > > Once again, the first three days would be geared for FAST and ACM. We
> > have waivered airspace and full FAA/County support so the weekend should
> > provide a new dynamic to the event for those of you with 800 or lower
> > cards...
> > >
> > > Look for the Oct issue of pilot journal magazine on the 2003 event and
> > your association.
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Drew
> > >
> > >
> > > Drew Blahnick
> > > YPA/RedStar Pilots Association
> > > Cell310-386-9181
> > > www.yakpilots.org
> > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | October 4-5 fly-in in Illinois |
--> Yak-List message posted by: John Alber <john@johnalber.com>
The medium range forecast calls for a large high pressure area to dominate the
east and midwest October 4 and 5--next weekend. Should be great flying.
If you're looking for a place to fly, then head for Greenville, Illinois (GRE)
45 miles NE of STL. We're having AIRstravaganza that weekend and we welcome all
warbirds. Let me know of your plans to fly-in with a Yak or other warbird and
we'll cover your fuel (sorry, we don't have much for appearance fees).
AIRstravaganza focuses on ride hopping and interesting aircraft. If you want to
ride in a DC-3 or Beech 18 or R-44 or trike ultralight or gyrocopter or powered
parachute or other interesting aircraft or see aircraft like a B-25, then by
all means show up. The event is usually well attended, both as a fly-in and
as a vintage car show (on Sunday).
See www.airstravaganza.com for details.
John Alber
john@johnalber.com
Yak 52 852GC
John Alber
john@johnalber.com
Home 618-675-3553
Work 314-259-2144
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| Subject: | [ Alan Cockrell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Alan Cockrell <yakdriver@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-52 Prop Vapor
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/yakdriver@comcast.net.09.27.2003/index.html
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| Subject: | [ Charles F. Long ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Charles F. Long <charles.long@gm.com>
Subject: GPS Color Moving Map For Less Than $500
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| Subject: | "Eastern" Red Star Event |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Folks,
It is true...I did volunteer to try to get another Red Star Event going for folks
on the Eastern half of the country. I know there would be support. When we
tried to get a "little" gathering together last year in Selma, AL it ended up
that about 35 airplanes were scheduled to show up...mother nature encrouched
though and we had to cancel.
It is my opinion that a central location would serve the most members. Rather
than have two events on the far ends of the country, we should pick a more central
site. The two largest cargo carriers both located their major hubs as close
as possible to the "demographic" center of the country to reach the most people
for the least expense... Of course Memphis is one of those hubs.
The old Memphis NAS in Millington TN could replicate the Red Star event model well
with convenient facilities, airspace, and lodgings. As Drew has mentioned
though, this would take a huge amount of effort. I have seen this on a smaller
scale with the two events I have planned. Putting this event together would
be a FULL TIME job. I simply cannot and will not do it without major help and
division of tasks.
For those who have not attended a Red Star event, there simply is not a better
medium to enjoy your airplanes. Traveling a few hundred miles is a very small
price to pay for quite possibly the best time of your life!
Jeff Linebaugh
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| Subject: | looking for someone in ne area |
--> Yak-List message posted by: DFCPAC@aol.com
hi all,
i'm considering buying a yak50. not too fimilar with yaks, i'd like to find
someone in my area to get a ride in a yak52 before buying. i'll pay all
expensies it would help me to make a decission on buying one. i live in new york
on
long island. i have an rv-4 and would fly up to meet with you.
thank you
dan carley
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| Subject: | FIVE-Yak 18T - 5 place aircraft FOR SALE in GREAT SHAPE |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
YAKsters,
I just signed a deal for FIVE Yak 18T's and several YAK12's at GREAT PRICES
(cheap for you other guys)
Contact me off line but several people have been asking me for YAK 18T's for
a long time.....Well here they are.
He is just one EXAMPLE of the one I found:
1979 YAK-18T Serial Number 32418
Date of Manufacture May 1979
Total Time-1,508
Total No. of Landings 5,333
Date of Last Flight 1999
The following are the times per the Russian Rules:
Last airframe overhaul in 1994
ENGINE-M-14P Serial Number -K? 031044
Date of Manufacture -March 1981
Total Time -1,095 Hours
Time since last overhaul -601 Hours
Call for price but bring check book and be ready!!!!!!!
Mark SHREK Schrick
YAK Driver, Inc
Western USA Dealer for AEROSTAR (Yak 52TW /W)
Fully Restored YAK 52s, Can help met anyones budget !!
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
(408) 323-5150 phone / fax
(408) 391-6664 cell
schrick@pacbell.net
www.YAKDRIVER.com
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| Subject: | Re: East Coast All Red Star |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Gus,
Regardless if there are other FL events, these events are not anywhere near
the equivalent of a Red Star gathering. Typically the one you are speaking
of is in conjunction with Sun and Fun. The location needs to "mutually
inconvenient to all".
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Drew,
> What distance did people travel to get to the West coast fly in ? My
thought
> is that it should be somewhere like western PA as this would be central
for
> the entire NE. There are already events in the Florida area. Thoughts ?
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Too far north for "late next year" plus we need to be as far from any
Class
> B airspace as humanly possible.
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Gagnon" <niftyyak50@msn.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <niftyyak50@msn.com>
> >
> > Looks like we need a East Coast event. I have helped produce a few
> airshows
> > and aviation events and would be happy to have one in the Cincinnati
area.
> > Anyone interested in that? Probably could not have it by next
year...maybe
> > late next year??
> >
> > Thoughts!?
> >
> > Tim Gagnon
> > Yak-50 84-2805....uhmmmm or 2305......huh?
> >
> > Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from
McAfee.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing Access Holes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: PSalter@aol.com
I am nearing the last steps toward finishing my paint job on my Yak 52 and
have a question concerning the access holes in the trailing edge of the wing.
Do I need to cover them and if so what is the process? My understanding
currently is that they do not need to be covered but could slightly effect my
airspeed. Seems to me the holes would effect the roll rate. When I bought this
aircraft, only one wing had covers and duct tape was used.
Phil
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