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1. 12:52 AM - Fw: Old Bad Blood (aeroconcept)
2. 05:08 AM - Re: All Red Star III (Ron Davis)
3. 05:18 AM - Re: All Red Star-East (Ernie)
4. 05:18 AM - Re: East Coast All Red Star (Ernie)
5. 05:21 AM - Re: All Red Star III (Ernie)
6. 06:06 AM - Re: looking for someone in ne area (Gus Fraser)
7. 06:29 AM - Re: looking for someone in ne area (DFCPAC@aol.com)
8. 08:50 AM - Re: looking for someone in ne area (Robert Mortara)
9. 05:19 PM - Precautions against hydraulic lock (Dave Strawn)
10. 05:48 PM - Re: Precautions against hydraulic lock (A. Dennis Savarese)
11. 06:41 PM - Burt Rutan (Brian Lloyd)
12. 07:40 PM - Re: looking for someone in ne area (Gus Fraser)
13. 08:16 PM - avoiding hydrualic lock (Frank Stelwagon)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "aeroconcept" <aeroconcept@mtu-net.ru>
Following Craig Payne's recent legitimate interest, the active overhaul
facilities specialized in Yaks fall into three categories.
* Some are authorized to perform overhauls of the Yak-52 (or other light
Yaks) by the manufacturer,
i.e. Yakovlev Design Bureau, and as such have received official Yakovlev
overhaul documentation. As of today, there are Shakhty aircraft repair
factory (ShARZ) - the head organization since early 80-s, Tashkent
(Uzbekistan) and Ivanovo (Russia) plants. On the M-14P engine side, there is
again Shakhty and VMZ Design Bureau (Voronezh) itself.
** Some are certified to overhaul the Yak-52 by their respective Aviation
Authorities, yet may not have an authorization from relevant Design Bureaus.
*** There may certainly be a third category, which do not have
authorizations neither from Designers, nor from their AA's.
The issue is clearly one of control of the process and of its results from
the manufacturer and/or AA's. Shakhty is subject to both. The factory
keeps track of all overhauls of the airframes and the engines including the
bulletins applied, since at least early eighties.
Apart from the Yak-52, Shakhty overhauls Yak-18T, Antonov-2 and Yak-50.
Additional info on our Web site
http://www.aero-concept.com/Pages/Shakhty.html (additions shortly), and on
the Shakhty factory web site http://www.sharz.ru/index_eng.shtml.
Ilia Palamodov
Aeroconcept Trading
Worldwide agents for Shakhty aircraft repair factory
1, place Paul Verlaine - 92100 Boulogne FRANCE
Phone +33614487585
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:23 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Old Bad Blood
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
> >
> > Ah yes, there has been plenty of Bad Blood spilled on the
> > 'list over the ages. Owning one of these RedStar Critters
> > seems to bring out confrontation...boys with toys I guess.
> >
> > While I have relished some of the CJ battles in the past, it
> > soon degenerated into nasty name calling and the sort, with
> > hints of deficiencies in one's Maternal lineage.... Now
> > maybe it's the Yak's turn? As my CJ is now a Blood Brother
> > to the Yak with the M14P (NannyYak or YakChang?), I would
> > like to learn more about Who's Who but I'm afraid I need a
> > scorecard.
> >
> > - How many "native" sources are there for reconditioned
> > Yaks? I understand that new ones only come from Aerostar.
> >
> > - Same question for the M14 engine, who builds New engines
> > and who Overhauls? Is it true that certain options are only
> > available through exclusive dealer contracts?
> >
> > Craig "Inquiring Minds Want to Know" Payne
> >
> >
> >
> >
http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star III |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Yes, Rutan was the person who discovered that Cessna and Piper had been
building their planes backwards.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> Wasn't Rutan the one that puts the prop on the "wrong" end of the
> airplane??? <GRIN>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > Ah California home of Swazenager and Huffington
> >
> > Gus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Davis
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Burt Rutan says that if the west coast had been discovered first and the
> > U.S. populated toward the east that no one would live east of Denver.
> >
> > Do you want to go on record as opposing Burt Rutan's opinion?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > Good point Dennis,
> > > There is a world to the east of the Rockies
> > >
> > > Gus
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> > > Savarese
> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> > >
> > > Once again, the majority of the folks east of the Mississippi won't be
> > > attending unless we decide to either have an All Red Star-East or a
more
> > > centralized US location for the May 19-23 convention. Either that or
> > maybe
> > > start alternating east and west every other year.
> > > Dennis Savarese
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick"
<aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Although ICAS won't be publishing their firmed up 2004 schedule
until
> > > after their Dec organizers meet, we are suggesting the following dates
> for
> > > the 2004 All Red Star convention;
> > > >
> > > > Wed May 19 - Sunday May 23
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to e-mail me directly if you know of a major western
> regional
> > > event on that weekend...
> > > >
> > > > Once again, the first three days would be geared for FAST and ACM.
We
> > > have waivered airspace and full FAA/County support so the weekend
should
> > > provide a new dynamic to the event for those of you with 800 or lower
> > > cards...
> > > >
> > > > Look for the Oct issue of pilot journal magazine on the 2003 event
and
> > > your association.
> > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Drew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Drew Blahnick
> > > > YPA/RedStar Pilots Association
> > > > Cell310-386-9181
> > > > www.yakpilots.org
> > > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star-East |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I dont know about anywhere else, but here in Fl, Sept is the peak of
hurricane season.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Courtney" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star-East
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dean Courtney"
<deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
>
> Yakers,
>
> First, or second week in Sept, 2004. I believe everyone can agree that the
> weather is generally prefect on this half of the country during that time
> period. Gatlinburg, Tenn? Plenty for spouses to do, good at handling
> conventions, plenty of open airspace. Pretty much in the middle of the
"east
> of the Mississippi" quadrant. I know its not close to everybody, but times
a
> wasting. Build it and they will come? What'a ya think?
>
> Or we can play the lottery. Go to the FAA registry, and what ever state in
> the east has the most Red Star aircraft, wins? How bout that method, no
body
> to aurge with that way :)
>
> Dean Courtney
> deancourtney696@hotmail.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: East Coast All Red Star |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Sure, and at about 1 mile per gallon.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> As the east coast is so large how about a NE and a SE ?
>
> Ernie that big jet of yours should get you 900 miles PDQ :)
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> The only event in the FL area is S&F, I would say that AL or GA would be
> more centalized, PA is 900 miles for me.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > Drew,
> > What distance did people travel to get to the West coast fly in ? My
> thought
> > is that it should be somewhere like western PA as this would be central
> for
> > the entire NE. There are already events in the Florida area. Thoughts ?
> >
> > Gus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> > Savarese
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > Too far north for "late next year" plus we need to be as far from any
> Class
> > B airspace as humanly possible.
> > Dennis
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Gagnon" <niftyyak50@msn.com>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: East Coast All Red Star
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <niftyyak50@msn.com>
> > >
> > > Looks like we need a East Coast event. I have helped produce a few
> > airshows
> > > and aviation events and would be happy to have one in the Cincinnati
> area.
> > > Anyone interested in that? Probably could not have it by next
> year...maybe
> > > late next year??
> > >
> > > Thoughts!?
> > >
> > > Tim Gagnon
> > > Yak-50 84-2805....uhmmmm or 2305......huh?
> > >
> > > Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from
> McAfee.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star III |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Who cares about Burt Rutan's opinion.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> Burt Rutan says that if the west coast had been discovered first and the
> U.S. populated toward the east that no one would live east of Denver.
>
> Do you want to go on record as opposing Burt Rutan's opinion?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: All Red Star III
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > Good point Dennis,
> > There is a world to the east of the Rockies
> >
> > Gus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> > Savarese
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > Once again, the majority of the folks east of the Mississippi won't be
> > attending unless we decide to either have an All Red Star-East or a more
> > centralized US location for the May 19-23 convention. Either that or
> maybe
> > start alternating east and west every other year.
> > Dennis Savarese
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star III
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Although ICAS won't be publishing their firmed up 2004 schedule until
> > after their Dec organizers meet, we are suggesting the following dates
for
> > the 2004 All Red Star convention;
> > >
> > > Wed May 19 - Sunday May 23
> > >
> > > Feel free to e-mail me directly if you know of a major western
regional
> > event on that weekend...
> > >
> > > Once again, the first three days would be geared for FAST and ACM. We
> > have waivered airspace and full FAA/County support so the weekend should
> > provide a new dynamic to the event for those of you with 800 or lower
> > cards...
> > >
> > > Look for the Oct issue of pilot journal magazine on the 2003 event and
> > your association.
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Drew
> > >
> > >
> > > Drew Blahnick
> > > YPA/RedStar Pilots Association
> > > Cell310-386-9181
> > > www.yakpilots.org
> > > "Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | looking for someone in ne area |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Dan I live in NJ and would be happy to take you up. Had Yaks for about 7-8
years now would not own anything else for the money.
Gus Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DFCPAC@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: looking for someone in ne area
--> Yak-List message posted by: DFCPAC@aol.com
hi all,
i'm considering buying a yak50. not too fimilar with yaks, i'd like to find
someone in my area to get a ride in a yak52 before buying. i'll pay all
expensies it would help me to make a decission on buying one. i live in new
york on
long island. i have an rv-4 and would fly up to meet with you.
thank you
dan carley
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| Subject: | Re: looking for someone in ne area |
--> Yak-List message posted by: DFCPAC@aol.com
gus,
thanks for the reply. i'll take you up on the ride if you don't mind. where
in nj are you? when would be a good time? i'm off work for a few weeks so
anytime is good for me?
thanks
danny
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| Subject: | looking for someone in ne area |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Robert Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com>
I know of a real nice yak 55 for sale by a friend
rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DFCPAC@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: looking for someone in ne area
--> Yak-List message posted by: DFCPAC@aol.com
hi all,
i'm considering buying a yak50. not too fimilar with yaks, i'd like to find
someone in my area to get a ride in a yak52 before buying. i'll pay all
expensies it would help me to make a decission on buying one. i live in new
york on
long island. i have an rv-4 and would fly up to meet with you.
thank you
dan carley
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| Subject: | Precautions against hydraulic lock |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dave Strawn" <dastrawn@mindspring.com>
Yaksters,
I just read an article that said we should always drain the intake tubes if we
have not run the engine for more than a day. The article was written for the
M14P engine. I am running the Housai 285 on my CJ and have been using the 7 day
rule, i.e., draining the intake tubes and spark plugs if not run in 7 days
(never had to do this yet since flown every week). Of course, blades are always
pulled through before starting regardless of time to check for hydraulic lock.
My question is should I follow the 1 day rule or stick with the 7 day rule??
thanks,
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Precautions against hydraulic lock |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
For peace of mind and a whole lot less trouble and mess, why not install and
intake drain kit like most folks install on the M14P. Not very difficult
and certainly worth while.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Strawn" <dastrawn@mindspring.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Precautions against hydraulic lock
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dave Strawn" <dastrawn@mindspring.com>
>
> Yaksters,
>
> I just read an article that said we should always drain the intake tubes
if we have not run the engine for more than a day. The article was written
for the M14P engine. I am running the Housai 285 on my CJ and have been
using the 7 day rule, i.e., draining the intake tubes and spark plugs if not
run in 7 days (never had to do this yet since flown every week). Of course,
blades are always pulled through before starting regardless of time to check
for hydraulic lock. My question is should I follow the 1 day rule or stick
with the 7 day rule??
>
> thanks,
>
> Dave
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ernie wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Who cares about Burt Rutan's opinion.
Well, he did manage to build an airplane that would fly around the world unrefueled
and is about to fly the first commercial, nongovernment airplane to carry
people into space. Seems he has a knack for doing clever things, aviation-wise.
This quialifies him as a non-stupid in my book.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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| Subject: | looking for someone in ne area |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
I am based at Linden email me off list so that we can hook up
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DFCPAC@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: looking for someone in ne area
--> Yak-List message posted by: DFCPAC@aol.com
gus,
thanks for the reply. i'll take you up on the ride if you don't mind. where
in nj are you? when would be a good time? i'm off work for a few weeks so
anytime is good for me?
thanks
danny
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| Subject: | avoiding hydrualic lock |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
Put in the intake drain system. If you really want to improve things go with an
oil shutoff out of the tank.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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