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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Correct!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
<BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
>
> unless pre-moratorium, right?
>
> >>> ernest.martinez@oracle.com 10/3/2003 6:51:05 AM >>>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> You're right on the maint program, but whenever the home base is
> changed
> they do issue a new AW cert.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Di Marco" <cj6a_chinablue@yahoo.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Michael Di Marco
> <cj6a_chinablue@yahoo.com>
> >
> > --0-31606606-1065165917=:10265
> >
> > Sorry gang but I don't get what all the hub-bub is about. I notified
> the
> new FSDO of my impending arrival. I told them where the airplane would
> be
> hangared and my contact information. That's all that is required.
> Nothing
> in the order requires reissuance of an airworthiness cert unless there
> is a
> change in ownership. Maintenance programs are not required for recips
> under
> 800hp.
> >
> > All we have to do once certified is communicate, not ask permission.
> You
> ask the FAA a question than you deserve ..... ah, have to be ready for
> the
> answer. Communicate but don't expect a response.
> >
> > Mike Di Marco
> > China Blue
> >
> > "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> >
> > Here's the sad truth of the situation. If the Operating Limitations
> have
> the home-base airport listed in them (and most, but not all do), then
> the
> OL's must be reissued because the home-base airport changes and the 300
> NM
> Proficiency Area changes, regardless if anything else changes. Then
> because
> the OL's and Special Airworthiness Certificate are married together,
> when
> the OL's change due to the aforementioned, a new Special Airworthiness
> Certificate must be issued. To get a Special Airworthiness Certificate
> one
> must complete an 8130-6, Application for Airworthiness Certificate.
> Even
> though the Special Airworthiness Certificate has no expiration once the
> OL's
> change the current Airworthiness Certificate is void and vice versa.
> >
> > With regards to inspecting the airplane, we all know the FAA has the
> "right" to inspect the airplane if they so choose. However, if you show
> the
> FSDO person your current log books when you turn in the 8130-6,
> pointing out
> the most recent signed off annual condition inspection, they typically
> accept that as meeting the inspection requirements since obviously the
> airplane had to already have gone through and airwortiness
> certification
> inspection, which BTW may also be signed off in your log books.
> >
> > Lastly and even more ridiculous is, if you move your airplane from
> your
> present home base airport to another airport, say 8 miles away, you
> have to
> go through the same rigmarole.
> > Dennis
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Davis"
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis"
> > >
> > > Do whatever you think is best, but I would politely tell them I
> want to
> > see
> > > the requirement for a new airworthiness inspection in writing in
> the ops
> > > procedures. I don't believe it exists.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Dave Strawn"
> > > >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork
> > > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:01:18 -0400
> > > >
> > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dave Strawn"
> > > >
> > > >Craig,
> > > >
> > > >I just moved my plane from California to Atlanta and the local
> FSDO
> here
> > is
> > > >requiring that I complete an 8130-6 form and they must come out
> inspect
> > my
> > > >plane and reissue the airworthiness certificate. The original
> > > >airworthiness
> > > >cert. was done in California. I quess that's not acceptable in
> Georgia
> > > >(joke). They will redo the operating limitations also, but I
> expected
> > > >that.
> > > >I've worked with the USDA in the food business for 20 years and
> the FAA
> > is
> > > >similar, i.e., no two regional offices interpret the regulations
> the
> > same.
> > > >Will just suffer through it unless someone has a better
> suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >Misery likes company,
> > > >
> > > >Dave Strawn
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From:
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, just when I thought the FAA paperwork was going to go
> > > > > rather smooth for my move, the local FSDO must have
> > > > > appointed a newbie to learn the ropes. My A/C has been
> > > > > flying 8 years over here on Chicago FSDO restrictions but
> > > > > now my CJ is in the Orlando FSDO. Has anyone been required
> > > > > to submit a copy of their "inspection program identifying
> > > > > the person responsible for scheduling and performing the
> > > > > inspections"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig Payne
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > --0-31606606-1065165917=:10265
> >
> > <DIV>Sorry gang but I don't get what all the hub-bub is about.
> I
> notified the new FSDO of my impending arrival. I told them where
> the
> airplane would be hangared and my contact information. That's all
> that
> is required. Nothing in the order requires reissuance of an
> airworthiness cert unless there is a change in ownership.
> Maintenance
> programs are not required for recips under 800hp. </DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>All we have to do once certified is communicate, not ask
> permission. You ask the FAA a question than you deserve ..... ah,
> have
> to be ready for the answer. Communicate but don't expect a
> response.</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Mike Di Marco</DIV>
> > <DIV>China Blue<BR><BR><B><I>"A. Dennis Savarese"
> <adsavar@gte.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">--> Yak-List message posted by: "A.
> Dennis Savarese" <ADSAVAR@GTE.NET><BR><BR>Here's the sad truth of the
> situation. If the Operating Limitations have the home-base airport
> listed in
> them (and most, but not all do), then the OL's must be reissued because
> the
> home-base airport changes and the 300 NM Proficiency Area changes,
> regardless if anything else changes. Then because the OL's and Special
> Airworthiness Certificate are married together, when the OL's change
> due to
> the aforementioned, a new Special Airworthiness Certificate must be
> issued.
> To get a Special Airworthiness Certificate one must complete an
> 8130-6,
> Application for Airworthiness Certificate. Even though the Special
> Airworthiness Certificate has no expiration once the OL's change the
> current
> Airworthiness Certificate is void and vice versa.<BR><BR>With regards
> to
> inspecting the airplane, we all know the FAA has
> > the
> > "right" to inspect the airplane if they so choose. However, if you
> show
> the FSDO person your current log books when you turn in the 8130-6,
> pointing
> out the most recent signed off annual condition inspection, they
> typically
> accept that as meeting the inspection requirements since obviously the
> airplane had to already have gone through and airwortiness
> certification
> inspection, which BTW may also be signed off in your log
> books.<BR><BR>Lastly and even more ridiculous is, if you move your
> airplane
> from your present home base airport to another airport, say 8 miles
> away,
> you have to go through the same rigmarole.<BR>Dennis<BR><BR><BR>-----
> Original Message -----<BR>From: "Ron Davis"
> <L39PARTS@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>To:
> <YAK-LIST@MATRONICS.COM><BR>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation
> paperwork<BR><BR><BR>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron
> Davis"
> <L39PARTS@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>><BR>> Do whatever you think is best,
> but I
> would politely tell them I want to<BR>see<BR>> the requi
> > rement
> > for a new airworthiness inspection in writing in the ops<BR>>
> procedures. I don't believe it exists.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
> >From:
> "Dave Strawn" <DASTRAWN@MINDSPRING.COM><BR>> >Reply-To:
> yak-list@matronics.com<BR>> >To:
> <YAK-LIST@MATRONICS.COM><BR>>
> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Relocation paperwork<BR>> >Date: Thu,
> 18
> Sep 2003 22:01:18 -0400<BR>> ><BR>> >--> Yak-List
> message
> posted by: "Dave Strawn" <DASTRAWN@MINDSPRING.COM><BR>>
> ><BR>>
> >Craig,<BR>> ><BR>> >I just moved my plane from
> California to
> Atlanta and the local FSDO here<BR>is<BR>> >requiring that I
> complete
> an 8130-6 form and they must come out inspect<BR>my<BR>> >plane
> and
> reissue the airworthiness certificate. The original<BR>>
> >airworthiness<BR>> >cert. was done in California. I quess
> that's
> not acceptable in Georgia<BR>> >(joke). They will redo the
> operating
> limitations also, but I expected<BR>> >that.<BR>> &g
> > t;I've
> > worked with the USDA in the food business for 20 years and the
> FAA<BR>is<BR>> >similar, i.e., no two regional offices interpret
> the
> regulations the<BR>same.<BR>> >Will just suffer through it
> unless
> someone has a better suggestion.<BR>> ><BR>> >Misery likes
> company,<BR>> ><BR>> >Dave Strawn<BR>> >-----
> Original
> Message -----<BR>> >From: <CPAYNE@JOIMAIL.COM><BR>> >To:
> <YAK-LIST@MATRONICS.COM><BR>> >Subject: Yak-List: Relocation
> paperwork<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > --> Yak-List
> message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com<BR>> > ><BR>> >
> >
> Well, just when I thought the FAA paperwork was going to go<BR>>
> >
> > rather smooth for my move, the local FSDO must have<BR>> >
> >
> appointed a newbie to learn the ropes. My A/C has been<BR>> >
> >
> flying 8 years over here on Chicago FSDO restrictions but<BR>> >
> >
> now my CJ is in the Orlando FSDO. Has anyone been required
> > <BR>>
> > --0-31606606-1065165917=:10265--
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
Is it Carl Hayes that has the hose kits for M14P? Anyone else if he
doesn't? I need to replace mine on SU-29. 10 years is a good service
life, I guess. BTW. I did the motor mounts and now it's my secret how
to do them. Just kidding.... Respectfully, Ricky B
PS, prices for hoses, any bright and shiny ones?
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