Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:44 AM - Re: Fw: about "Petrel" (Stuart Mackereth)
2. 12:46 AM - Air leak Solved (Aubrey Price)
3. 03:58 AM - Re: Fw: about "Petrel" (Brian Lloyd)
4. 05:58 AM - Re: Extended Fuel (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 06:13 AM - Flying (Duncan)
6. 06:44 AM - Re: Flying (cjpilot710@aol.com)
7. 07:27 AM - Re: China Spec program (DaBear)
8. 08:23 AM - Yak 52 - In service where? (Stuart Mackereth)
9. 08:50 AM - Re: Flying (Drew Blahnick)
10. 09:02 AM - whats in a name? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
11. 09:02 AM - question (cjpilot710@aol.com)
12. 09:33 AM - Re: Crash in England (Gus Fraser)
13. 09:36 AM - Re: Yak 52 - In service where? (Gus Fraser)
14. 10:12 AM - Re: question (Brian Lloyd)
15. 06:31 PM - Re: Crash in England (Gus Fraser)
16. 07:10 PM - Re: Crash in England (Gus Fraser)
17. 08:07 PM - Re: Crash in England (Walt Fricke)
18. 09:04 PM - Re: Crash in England (Deon Esterhuizen)
19. 09:08 PM - Re: Rudder Cable Acts Like Saw (Deon Esterhuizen)
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| Subject: | Fwd: about "Petrel" |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Bushi is a little tough to interpret... He speaks native MIME :-)
From: "Bushi" <bushi@shcei.com.cn>
Subject: about "Petrel"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Aubrey Price <aprice@vartec.net>
Last week I told you about my air leak problem. A. Dennis,Mark Jefferies,
Jill and Carl,Mike DuPont and several more have been a great help in trouble
shooting the problem. I found it. It was so simple I overlooked the obvious.
I knew the leak had to be internal to the system because I have touched
everything else. After reviewing the drawings I realized that I had
overlooked the one-way valve on the firewall that prevents pressure from
going to the SNOT bottle and compressor when the engine is shut down. The
leak was at that valve, leaking through the SNOT bottle, past the valve at
the output of the compressor and into the compressor. I should have noticed
it, because over that past few weeks I remember opening the SNOT valve after
landing. Later I opened it again and it had pressure on it. That should have
been my first sign that I was developing a leak at the one-way valve. The up
side to this problem is, I have checked every fitting and found several
small leaking. Live and learn. Thanks for all the suggestions and help, they
made me think.
Aubrey Price and Jim Bowerman
N288Y
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: about "Petrel" |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Stuart Mackereth wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
>
> Bushi is a little tough to interpret... He speaks native MIME :-)
Probably UTF-8.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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| Subject: | Re: Extended Fuel |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Contact George Coy at Gesoco in VT. 802-868-5633. George now has the
rights to build the Carl Schels designed aux fuel tank that fits behind and
wraps around the rear seat. It holds approximately 14.5 gallons and should
give you about 1 hour additional flight time. It is non-intrusive into the
wing (very important) and the only parts that have to be removed to install
the tank are the rear seat and the left wing root panels where the pump and
regulator are installed. The tank in plumbed into the flexible hose coming
from the left main fuel tank to the T fitting under the front seat. A small
custom fitted panel with a red light which indicates the pump is operating,
toggle switch and circuit breaker are mounted just above the primer pump.
The fuel in the aux tank is manually pumped through the flexible hose
previously mentioned. Total weight for the installation is only 18 pounds.
The tank is welded aluminum.
This installation is the best solution that we have to date for aux fuel in
the 52. Email me off list if you'd like to see a couple of photos of the
tank George builds and sells. adsavar@gte.net
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "sfrench" <sfrench@starband.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Extended Fuel
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "sfrench" <sfrench@starband.net>
>
>
> Anyone know who does extended fuel tanks for a Yak 52 that has the basic
> 31 gallon tanks.....Stan French
>
>
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> Anyone know who does extended fuel
> tanks for a Yak
> 52 that has the basic 31 gallon tanks.....Stan
> French
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan" <Duncan1574@hotmail.com>
All,
Since my employment went into disarray over two years ago, my financial
situation has become increasingly dire to the point where I have not been
able to fly for over a year. It has become increasingly difficult for me to
read about you all enjoying the thing I can no longer do, therefore I am
going to unsubscribe from this list and go away until I can afford to think
about flying again.
You are a great group and I wish you all the success you deserve.
Russ Dycus
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 10/12/2003 9:14:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Duncan1574@hotmail.com writes:
> All,
>
> Since my employment went into disarray over two years ago, my financial
> situation has become increasingly dire to the point where I have not been
> able to fly for over a year. It has become increasingly difficult for me to
> read about you all enjoying the thing I can no longer do, therefore I am
> going to unsubscribe from this list and go away until I can afford to think
> about flying again.
>
> You are a great group and I wish you all the success you deserve.
>
> Russ Dycus
Russ,
You get your rather large ass back here soon. You're missed as it is.
./\.4u
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Re: China Spec program |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
I'm not sniggering... but I am happy about the fish that rose to the bait.
:-)
Al
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Now this is the "Star Track" in me speaking. Someday all the
civilizations
> > of this planet will be reading off the same page of knowledge and truth,
at the
> > same time. Than watch out!
> > And that is why, Al ("De Bear" AKA "Dead Bear"), the CJ-6 is not a copy
of a
> > Yak. ;)
>
> He gotcha Pappy. Al is just sitting over there sniggering up his sleeve.
> But regardless of whether or not the Chinese capsule is a copy of the
Soyuz, building a rocket, putting a man in a capsule, copied or not, and
tossing him around the world takes a lot of energy and planning. No one in
Western Europe has tried it yet. Heck, it would be a feat even if they just
borrowed our spare parts and put together and launched an Atlas/Mercury.
Don't forget Al, they built their own launch vehicle. So, my hat's off to
them. It is nice to see someone new trying to get into space.
>
> OTOH, what *IS* the required capacity of a launch vehicle to deliver a 10
megaton warhead in suborbital flight from Asia to North America? As I
recall the original use for the Atlas and the Titan-II/III were to deliver
"packages" to our "friends" in the Soviet Union. We didn't build those
vehicles just for the Mercury and Gemini missions.
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| Subject: | Yak 52 - In service where? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Hi all
Found an interesting publication in a local bookshop today - "The
International Directory of Military Aircraft, 2000/2001". (You can find
ths book and pictures on Amazon quite easily too). I was quite surprised
to see it listed Lithuania with 20 Yak52s, and Bulgaria with 10 Yak52s -
currently active in service (2001).
Anyone know where else they are in service and how accurate, if at all,
these figures are?
Thanks
Stuart
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
Russ,
I notice that you are a member of the YPA, now RPA, with a renewal due in
the 4th quarter of 2003 - we are going to a new website with a members login
structure at www.flyredstar.org. This site will become fully functional
later this month.
Although I know it is difficult reading about flying when a person, for
whatever reason, cannot actively participate in their own flying, on behalf
of the association your membership is renewed for 2004/2005, please
attend/volunteer/join in the events and web content activity where ever you
like or can - We need everyone!
Drew
Drew Blahnick
RedStar Pilots Assoc.
Cell310-872-7054
www.yakpilots.org
www.flyredstar.org
"Communism: Lousy Politics - Great Airplanes"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan" <Duncan1574@hotmail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Flying
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan" <Duncan1574@hotmail.com>
>
> All,
>
> Since my employment went into disarray over two years ago, my
financial
> situation has become increasingly dire to the point where I have not been
> able to fly for over a year. It has become increasingly difficult for me
to
> read about you all enjoying the thing I can no longer do, therefore I am
> going to unsubscribe from this list and go away until I can afford to
think
> about flying again.
>
> You are a great group and I wish you all the success you deserve.
>
> Russ Dycus
>
>
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| Subject: | whats in a name? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
I hope I've straighten this out. Sly, I'm resending this to you also in case
that decoding stuff didn't work either.
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
This was my e-mail to Bushi Cheng.
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Mr. Bushi Cheng and Mrs. Fan
A number of our members and CJ-6 owners have noticed the name "Petrel" in
advertisement about the CJ-6 aircraft.=A0 Could you tell me where this name=20comes
from and what significance it means to the Chinese people as to aircraft.=A0
We were first under the impression the Chinese name " Chujiao" meant
"teacher."=A0 I now understand 'Chujiao" is shorten from "Chuji jiaolianji"=20which
means
"basic training aircraft".=A0 Is that true?
Is the "Petrel" name for the aircraft like what we here in the USA would a
call 'popular name'?=A0 Example - a Piper J-3 is call a "Cub" or the North
American P-51 is called the "Mustang".
To us a "Petrel" is small sea bird.=A0 Is that the same for the Chinese people?
Jim Goolsby
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This was Bushi reply.
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Dear Jim,
I received the "Warbird B-25 special section" and your letters enclosed.
Recently, I had a long time business trip, which took almost a whole month,=20and
I have just come back to Shanghai yesterday. During the time I was out of
Shanghai, in an event I met a pilot friend who attended the 2003 Oshkosh
"Flyin". He told me that in Oshkosh, he saw there was a magazine July's issue
having
articles about Cj-6. I didn't know what did he mean until I read the
magazine you sent me. I am so glad to read your letters and the articles in the
magazine.
Today I received your E-mail. Your understanding about the origine of
the name "CJ" is quite right. As for "Petrel", it is a popular name just the
same as "Mustung" or "Wildcat" for the US fighters. Anyhow, airplanes for
civil uses are not suitable to have names of fierce beast,and be better to have
names of milder animals. There was a Soviet Antonove designed twine engine
propeller driven argricultual airplane having the name "Little bee", I believe
the designer use the name to mean the airplane is small but nimble in its
flight. Nowadays, there is a series of autra-lights called "Honeybee" flying in
China. Maybe the name denotes their lightness and small size.
"Petrel" is a kind of small seabird in Chinese also. In Chinese
language, Petrel is literally called "sea swallow", because its size, shape=20and
style of flight are very like swallows". Giving this to an airplane had the same
intention as "Little Bee" to mean the nimbleness of its flight. Besides,
there is a prose poetry named "Petrel" very popular in China, writen by a Soviet
writer Gorgy. It described the flight of petrels when the thunderstorms
coming soon:"above the surging sea, petrels dive and climb steeply, like black
lightnings, hailing loudly, 'Let the storm come even fiercer!'" Therefore,=20in
Chinese common understanding, petrel often means a high spirite of struggle
against unfavorable environment, having a widerly praised heroic nature. And
thirdly, CJ has a "seagull"type wing that makes it suitble to be named as a=20kind
of
seabird.
I am very glad to discuss the question with you.
Thank your again for your Magazine and letters. Yaxi says Hi to
Dede, and my best wishes to you and your family.
Bushi Cheng
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Did any one get the message I posted "Whats in a name?"?
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Crash in England |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
A previous accident in England, the results are in, CHECK FOR LOOSE
ARTICLES. It seems strange that they do not emphasis this in the
recommendations.
See link below for details
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafe
ty_024587.hcsp
Thanks
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
http://www.camberley.co.uk/story.asp?intid=150&txtpaper
Please slap the bottom of your tail cone to check for loose articles. If you
hear any noise clean it out before flying.
Gus Fraser
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| Subject: | Yak 52 - In service where? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
I think Hungary has some.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
Mackereth
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 - In service where?
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Hi all
Found an interesting publication in a local bookshop today - "The
International Directory of Military Aircraft, 2000/2001". (You can find
ths book and pictures on Amazon quite easily too). I was quite surprised
to see it listed Lithuania with 20 Yak52s, and Bulgaria with 10 Yak52s -
currently active in service (2001).
Anyone know where else they are in service and how accurate, if at all,
these figures are?
Thanks
Stuart
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
> Did any one get the message I posted "Whats in a name?"?
Your more recent posting fixed the problem and we could read it. Thank you.
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+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| Subject: | Crash in England |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Also,
A Yak 55 an the British Nationals, I believe, had a control restriction
during a lomcovak it was discovered to be a 10p piece (same size as a
quarter) almost cut in two my the bell crank under the pilots seat.
The only reason that I mention all this, apart from the accident on Friday,
is that one of the best reasons for wearing a flight suit that I know of is
to keep all that crap away from the controls.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
A previous accident in England, the results are in, CHECK FOR LOOSE
ARTICLES. It seems strange that they do not emphasis this in the
recommendations.
See link below for details
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafe
ty_024587.hcsp
Thanks
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
http://www.camberley.co.uk/story.asp?intid=150&txtpaper
Please slap the bottom of your tail cone to check for loose articles. If you
hear any noise clean it out before flying.
Gus Fraser
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| Subject: | Crash in England |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
The link got truncated by the mail list Try this
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafe
ty_024587.hcsp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
A previous accident in England, the results are in, CHECK FOR LOOSE
ARTICLES. It seems strange that they do not emphasis this in the
recommendations.
See link below for details
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafe
ty_024587.hcsp
Thanks
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
http://www.camberley.co.uk/story.asp?intid=150&txtpaper
Please slap the bottom of your tail cone to check for loose articles. If you
hear any noise clean it out before flying.
Gus Fraser
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| Subject: | Crash in England |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
I flew my Yak-50 for the first time today in 3 months. It just came out of the
shop. I found three foreign objects in the fuselage including a screwdriver.
Can't blame the mechanics. While it may not be their job to leave stuff there.
It's OURS to find it. Bak Yakin!
Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser"
The link got truncated by the mail list Try this
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafe
ty_024587.hcsp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser"
A previous accident in England, the results are in, CHECK FOR LOOSE
ARTICLES. It seems strange that they do not emphasis this in the
recommendations.
See link below for details
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafe
ty_024587.hcsp
Thanks
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser"
http://www.camberley.co.uk/story.asp?intid=150&txtpaper
Please slap the bottom of your tail cone to check for loose articles. If you
hear any noise clean it out before flying.
Gus Fraser
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| Subject: | Crash in England |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
Thanks for the info Gus - the link did not get truncated, just copy and
paste the second line at the back of the URL.
Deon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gus Fraser [mailto:fraseg@comcast.net]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
The link got truncated by the mail list Try this
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_av
safe
ty_024587.hcsp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
A previous accident in England, the results are in, CHECK FOR LOOSE
ARTICLES. It seems strange that they do not emphasis this in the
recommendations.
See link below for details
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_av
safe
ty_024587.hcsp
Thanks
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: Yak-List: Crash in England
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
http://www.camberley.co.uk/story.asp?intid=150&txtpaper
Please slap the bottom of your tail cone to check for loose articles. If
you
hear any noise clean it out before flying.
Gus Fraser
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| Subject: | Rudder Cable Acts Like Saw |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com>
I found the same problem this weekend with my rudder cable - thanks for
the information Frank.
Deon Esterhuizen
N192YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein [mailto:yak52driver@earthlink.net]
Subject: Yak-List: Rudder Cable Acts Like Saw
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakksters;
You're rudder cable may be acting like a saw! If you own a YAK-52 I
suggest you pull your front seat and look at the bottom rear area of the
cockpit around where the fuel lines run over the rudder cables. Make
sure your rudder cables aren't touching the fuel lines in this area.
During routine maintenance it's easy to bend one of these fuel lines so
that they come in contact with your rudder cables. You probly won't even
know you've done it!!
If you've ever worked in the front cockpit area without the seat in the
airplane then I STRONGLY suggest you do this quick check.
Good Luck!
Frank
N911OM
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