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1. 06:32 AM - China Orbit (cpayne@joimail.com)
2. 08:42 AM - Engine Information System (Marshall Ekstrand)
3. 08:55 AM - Re: Engine Information System (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 10:02 AM - Sea Fury full throttle landing (Yakjock)
5. 01:49 PM - Patch Notice (Terry Calloway)
6. 08:47 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/14/03 (Skipsly@aol.com)
7. 10:08 PM - engine power settings (Brian Lloyd)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
Congratulations to China on being the 3rd country to put a
man in orbit! Early reports indicate an almost perfect
flight with only minor problems: an uneven fuel burn and
leaks in the air-pressure system which activate all
controls. Some leakage of oil was spotted but techicians are
unable to locate the source.....
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Engine Information System |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Marshall Ekstrand <NX4ME@earthlink.net>
Does anyone have any experience with Grand Rapids Technologies EIS
9000 on their Yak or CJ? We are considering purchasing one and any user
feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Marshall Ekstrand
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Information System |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 10/16/2003 11:43:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
NX4ME@earthlink.net writes:
> >
>
> Does anyone have any experience with Grand Rapids Technologies EIS
> 9000 on their Yak or CJ? We are considering purchasing one and any user
> feedback would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Marshall Ekstrand
I'm interested in hearing about this also.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Sea Fury full throttle landing |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
A successful solution to a problem that could affect any of us.
> A nice article in today's Aero-News.net on Bud Granley's little
'Adventure" with the R-4360 Powered Sea Fury "Furias" - and the Throttle
stuck WIDE OPEN @ Reno.......
>
> Well Done, Bud!!
>
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> 10.16.03 Edition:
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> Reno '03: Landing Unlimited Racer Furias With a Stuck Throttle
> Too Much Power Isn't Always a Good Thing
> By ANN Reader Bud Granley
>
> Bud Granley wrote us about a little problem he had at last
> month's Reno Air Races, flying a 4000hp Sea Fury unlimited racer
> with the throttle stuck open:
>
> I thought I'd send this little report to you. It was a surprise
> [Note: To just about anybody but a serious stick like Bud,
> it's a 'surprise,' but to most of the rest of us it's a great
> excuse for a coronary... grin.--E-I-C] to find myself with the
> throttle disconnected at the carb. Better to be stuck power-on than
> power-off though: lots more time and options.
>
> I eased back on the throttle, a little on the prop, then a
> little more on each as I eased the big 4360-powered Seafury up
> several thousand feet from the Reno race course. When I checked the
> manifold pressure gauge, I saw that the throttle wasn't having any
> effect. It was loosy-goosy and unattached to anything that mattered
> to me. The manifold pressure read 45 inches, much less than the 67
> inches at 3000 RPM and 450 mph worth of ram air pressure a minute
> or so earlier on the race course. The engine was still wide open,
> but producing less power at slower speed with the prop pulled
> back.
>
> I had a problem, but with 120 gallons of gas left, had time to
> think it over. An old memory of a similar event came to me: in
> Sardinia during gunnery deployment with our Canadian F-86s, a US
> Navy F-11 Grumman Tiger called in with his power stuck on at a high
> level. He eventually landed and went off the end; the nose gear
> collapsed and with the intake stuck in the sand, the Tiger became
> the biggest sandblaster in the world for 20 minutes.
>
> I didn't want to screw this up. I just had to get set up
> properly, and then shut down when everything looked
> comfortable.
>
> I called the Furias pit crew, and let them know what
> the problem was, and after several tries finally got the message
> across. I then called CJ, the safety pilot in Art Vance's P-51,
> told him the problem and asked him to join up with me. Brian
> Sanders, another 4360 Seafury operator, offered advice on the no
> limit flaps speeds to help slow the plane down.
>
> With CJ locked on behind me, I began to pull some hard, vapor
> trail producing, climbing turns to slow the plane down to gear and
> flap speeds. As I dropped the gear and flaps to full, and with the
> propeller full back, the manifold pressure had dropped to 30 inches
> at 150 knots. I shut the mixture off to confirm my ability to kill
> the power on final. The prop almost stopped before I yanked the
> mixture back to an operating comfort level. The Seafury would now
> come down like a Stuka dive bomber with full flaps and the
> remaining power.
>
> I set up a high
> downwind and used the flaps as a throttle lever as you would the
> spoilers in a glider. At around 700 feet on final, with 170 knots
> and the runway made, I shut off the mixture.
>
> I had enough speed for a gentle flare starting at 200 feet. I
> pushed the propeller back to fine pitch to help slow down after the
> flare. The touchdown was at normal speed and the plane came to a
> stop before I could clear the runway and coast into the ramp ala
> Bob Hoover. Alas!
> ANN Notes:
> 1) Furias finished 5th in the Gold race this year, with
> regular pilot Gary Hubler at the controls.
> 2) Bud ferried Furias to Reno, and re-qualified himself
> to fly Unlimiteds in that machine. The trouble described above
> happened on Tuesday of race week.
> 3) On the airshow circuit, Bud astounds the crowds in a variety of
> airplanes, from a Harvard (T-6) to a Fouga, to a Yak; and he's one
> of the country's recognized top WWII warbird exhibition pilots,
> too.
> 4) Bud Granley is perhaps best-known at Reno as the 1980s pilot of
> the P-51 Miss America, lately flown by Brent Hisey (who
> won the Silver this year in that miraculously-reconstructed
> plane).
>
> Thanks, Bud -- and especially thanks for reminding us
> amateurs that it's worth practicing airmanship, 'cuz every now and
> then it really does matter!
>
> For the WHOLE story, go to
http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=8597c70b-dea7-454e-93
1c-784052d6e6a8&Dynamic=1
>
>
> Aero-News: Quote of the Day (10.16.03)
> Aero-News: Quote of the Day
>
> "I didn't want to screw this up."
>
> Source: Bud Granley, as he realized that the
> Unlimited racer he was flying at Reno, Furias, had a
> broken throttle cable, and thus that he was going to have to land
> the 4360-powered Sea Fury with a wide-open throttle.
> FMI: http://hometown.aol.com/cobra1444/myhomepage/profile.html
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
Folks,
While at Oshkosh this year I visited with our friends at Williams and
Willams about creating Moral Patches in the Chinese and Russian flags.
Well... there out and they are great. I recommend every 'Formally YPA'
member go out and grab a few. :)
Check it out at
www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTPROD&type=hat&cat=mpatch
tc
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/14/03 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Skipsly@aol.com
In a message dated 10/15/2003 3:59:14 AM Atlantic Daylight Time,
yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> At what point (in mmHg) is it reasonable to pull the prop back to 1,950rpm?
>
Jeez Louise, Jon, where do you fly? I'm in the mountains with my Chang,
always have been, and have yet to see 1900 rpm flying unless I'm in the landing
pattern or doing a runup or pre-shutdown plug burn. My takeoffs are mostly at
4650' or 6700' MSL but even when I'm in the flatlands in FAST clinics where I set
2000 RPM whilst lead for our benighted Yak-52 brethren to catch up, or hang
on, or whatever it takes so that they don't go home and abuse their spouses and
pets, that's as low an RPM as I ever see. I use 2150 for cruise and 2200 for
acro. I really can't imagine any setting less than that unless you're Sparky
Lloyd trying to prove that the world is flat. Or ovoid. Or whatever. I've
always believed that Bushi Cheng put all those RPMs in there for us to use! Try
a
higher prop setting and you'll be happy. And faster.
Skip Slyfield
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| Subject: | engine power settings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Skipsly@aol.com wrote:
> pets, that's as low an RPM as I ever see. I use 2150 for cruise and 2200 for
> acro. I really can't imagine any setting less than that unless you're Sparky
> Lloyd trying to prove that the world is flat. Or ovoid. Or whatever. I've
> always believed that Bushi Cheng put all those RPMs in there for us to use!
And they put the knobs in there so we can change things too.
And, by the way Skip, when you go farther and can skip a gas stop, you get to your
destination faster even if the airplane is flying more slowly. Sump'in to
think about when you are on you way to OSH and find that the airport you were
aiming for doesn't offer fuel anymore. Let me tell you, pumping it out of the
neighbor's car so you can make it to the next airport really slows down your
average speed, right Mark?
It also reduces the wallet burn and leaves more money for the extra beers I will
have to drink while waiting for you because you ziped on ahead of me but had
to make two more gas stops and ended up an hour or more behind me.
And Sly, I spend a lot of time at 2200 when doing acro too. For shorter hops I
cruise at 2100 or 2150, 2000 when leading a flight. But when I want to get to
Linden, NJ, from Chilicothe, OH, in one hop, you can bet that the prop control
comes waaaaay back. In fact, my prop hits the corse-pitch stop and doesn't
regulate anymore.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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