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1. 04:55 AM - Re: engine power settings (Gus Fraser)
2. 07:07 AM - Re: Patch Notice (FamilyGage@aol.com)
3. 07:27 AM - Re: Patch Notice (Terry Calloway)
4. 11:52 AM - speed and range (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
5. 12:33 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/16/03 (Skipsly@aol.com)
6. 02:17 PM - Spam Can? (Barry Hancock)
7. 02:40 PM - Re: Spam Can? (Walt Fricke)
8. 03:09 PM - FOD for thought... (Dave Laird)
9. 03:21 PM - Re: Spam Can? (Roy O. Wright)
10. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/16/03 (Steve & Donna Hanshew)
11. 04:08 PM - Re: Spam Can? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
12. 05:16 PM - Re: Spam Can? (Gus Fraser)
13. 05:22 PM - Re: FOD for thought... (Gus Fraser)
14. 05:23 PM - Re: Spam Can? (Gus Fraser)
15. 06:00 PM - Re: FOD for thought... (Jon Boede)
16. 06:39 PM - paint colors (cjpilot710@aol.com)
17. 06:52 PM - Yak-52/50 Canopy Glass (Tim Gagnon)
18. 08:10 PM - Re: FOD for thought... (Dave Laird)
19. 08:13 PM - Re: FOD for thought... (Dave Laird)
20. 08:22 PM - Re: speed and range (Brian Lloyd)
21. 08:30 PM - Re: FOD for thought... (gpa)
22. 08:30 PM - Re: Spam Can? (Brian Lloyd)
23. 08:48 PM - Re: engine power settings (Mark Schrick)
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| Subject: | engine power settings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
When I went to OSH I had 53% rpm and 60 cm MG at 11,000 at 9 gal per hor in
my benighted Yak 52. Much better range I had two stops from NJ
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Yak-List: engine power settings
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Skipsly@aol.com wrote:
> pets, that's as low an RPM as I ever see. I use 2150 for cruise and 2200
for
> acro. I really can't imagine any setting less than that unless you're
Sparky
> Lloyd trying to prove that the world is flat. Or ovoid. Or whatever. I've
> always believed that Bushi Cheng put all those RPMs in there for us to
use!
And they put the knobs in there so we can change things too.
And, by the way Skip, when you go farther and can skip a gas stop, you get
to your destination faster even if the airplane is flying more slowly.
Sump'in to think about when you are on you way to OSH and find that the
airport you were aiming for doesn't offer fuel anymore. Let me tell you,
pumping it out of the neighbor's car so you can make it to the next airport
really slows down your average speed, right Mark?
It also reduces the wallet burn and leaves more money for the extra beers I
will have to drink while waiting for you because you ziped on ahead of me
but had to make two more gas stops and ended up an hour or more behind me.
And Sly, I spend a lot of time at 2200 when doing acro too. For shorter
hops I cruise at 2100 or 2150, 2000 when leading a flight. But when I want
to get to Linden, NJ, from Chilicothe, OH, in one hop, you can bet that the
prop control comes waaaaay back. In fact, my prop hits the corse-pitch stop
and doesn't regulate anymore.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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| Subject: | Re: Patch Notice |
--> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com
Terry,
How and where can we obtain the new patches? Good Job!
Ray Gage
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| Subject: | Re: Patch Notice |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
How and where can we obtain the new patches? Good Job!
Go to:
http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTPROD&type=hat&cat=mpatch
And place order.
Yak2
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
hi all, Brian has prompted me to write.....!!!
Some "rough" rules of thumb for ferry flights.
reduce speed by 1/3rd and you get 1/2 the fuel consumption allowing you to go 1.3
x the distance you would have at your initial power settings.
Example, YAK 11 cruise at 200 kts using 155 lts / hr, reduce to 140 kts and you
use 75 lts/ hr (same fuel as an M14P at 80%)
fuel on board 320 lts, gives 2 hrs/ 400nm @ 200kts or 4hrs / 560 nm @ 140 kts.
IO-540 in my Extra300s, 62 lts @ 165 kts or 35 lts at 110 kts basically 1/3 rd
slower and 1/2 the fuel
YAK 50, 70% 700mm 60 lts/ hr 260 kph or 200 kph 35lts / hr.
So going fast can get you to destination a day later at this time of year as every
landing minimum is 45 mins and with day light at a premium this time of year
its well worth going slower and cheaper!!
Another rule of thumb is divide the HP by 20 and you get US galls/ hour.
Think about it folks............!!!!!!
BTW, I did say rough.
And I have a YAK 11 for sale :>)) 150,000 GBP www.xe.com/ucc for conversion. I last flew it to France 2 weeks ago, 245 kts ground speed going there.
cheers, Mark J
And, by the way Skip, when you go farther and can skip a gas stop, you get to your
destination faster even if the airplane is flying more slowly. Sump'in to
think about when you are on you way to OSH and find that the airport you were
aiming for doesn't offer fuel anymore. Let me tell you, pumping it out of the
neighbor's car so you can make it to the next airport really slows down your
average speed, right Mark?
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/16/03 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Skipsly@aol.com
In a message dated 10/17/2003 3:59:04 AM Atlantic Daylight Time,
yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> Linden, NJ, from Chilicothe, OH, in one hop, you can bet that the prop
> control
> comes waaaaay back. In fact, my prop hits the corse-pitch stop and doesn't
>
I'll try it. My wallet is shrinking.
Sly
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Not to bring up another round of the Lloyd's, err Hatfield's and
McCoy's, but I just gotta know....
I'm *stoked* (CA word for "excited") to have in my possession two
diluter demand oxygen regulators. These are very rare units, difficult
to find, and most sources have dried up. They are brand new units and I
want to install them in my CJ. These units are still used in current
military aircraft including B-52's and A-6's. I am *way stoked* (CA
phrase for "very excited") that I paid pennies on the dollar for them.
I am worried, however, that if I do install these in my CJ that it will
no longer be considered a warbird and that I will have to park next to
the C182's at OSH, etc.
Since, in the past, modifications like O2 and an auto pilot have been
accused of turning CJ's into span cans, I just want to make sure that I
don't become a statistic... :)
Cheers,
TFIIC
Barry Hancock
Director of Operations
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
Hey Waystoked! If you pull the prop all the way back, get as high as you can,
turn on the autopilot (to keep you ham fisted hands from destroying lift), and
top off your tanker, and turn on the air, you should be able to make OSH nonstop!
But what makes you think they will let you park any closer to the Cessna
182's than you already do? (look across the snow fence behind the CJ and Yak
line).
Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net> wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock
Not to bring up another round of the Lloyd's, err Hatfield's and
McCoy's, but I just gotta know....
I'm *stoked* (CA word for "excited") to have in my possession two
diluter demand oxygen regulators. These are very rare units, difficult
to find, and most sources have dried up. They are brand new units and I
want to install them in my CJ. These units are still used in current
military aircraft including B-52's and A-6's. I am *way stoked* (CA
phrase for "very excited") that I paid pennies on the dollar for them.
I am worried, however, that if I do install these in my CJ that it will
no longer be considered a warbird and that I will have to park next to
the C182's at OSH, etc.
Since, in the past, modifications like O2 and an auto pilot have been
accused of turning CJ's into span cans, I just want to make sure that I
don't become a statistic... :)
Cheers,
TFIIC
Barry Hancock
Director of Operations
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | FOD for thought... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
The following was in the EAA "e-hotline" today...
Yak-52 FOD Accidents Are a Warning to All
EAA Founder and Chairman Paul Poberezny recently received a letter from
National Transportation Safety Board Senior Air Safety Inspector Arnold
W. Scott telling about a spate of accidents around the world where
foreign object damage (FOD) has impaired or jammed the controls of the
Yak-52. The design is prone to this problem because the fuselage is
open behind the rear seat and the elevator control mechanism is close
to the fuselage floor. Many of the accidents have involved
fatalities, and aerobatics didnt seem to play a part in control
jamming caused by everything from an errant nut to an airsick bag and a
set of locking pliers. Scott urges Yak-52 owners to install some form
of barrier to protect the elevator bell crank from FOD jamming or to
install Plexiglas skin panels so they can inspect the mechanism before
flight.
Paul said the Yak should stand as an example for all pilots and
aircraft owners regardless of what they fly, because no aircraft is
immune to the controls being jammed by FOD.
Dave Laird
CJ6A N63536 "Betty"
Dallas
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
Barry,
It's OK as along as you wear full helmet (properly taped) and O2 mask.
No sissy cannulas. <G>
Seriously, if you fly above 10,000 ft. daytime, or 5,000 ft. nighttime,
then O2 is recommended.
So go far it and be the envy of the hypoxiated.
Have fun,
Roy
',,'',,'',,',,'
Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com
Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
"Experience is the thing you get the moment after you needed to have it."
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/16/03 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" <dhanshew@cinci.rr.com>
My money's on you Sly, But, Hey I am a sucker for GOB's.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Skipsly@aol.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/16/03
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Skipsly@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/17/2003 3:59:04 AM Atlantic Daylight Time,
> yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>
>
> > Linden, NJ, from Chilicothe, OH, in one hop, you can bet that the prop
> > control
> > comes waaaaay back. In fact, my prop hits the corse-pitch stop and
doesn't
> >
>
> I'll try it. My wallet is shrinking.
>
> Sly
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 10/17/2003 6:22:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
roy@wright.org writes:
> It's OK as along as you wear full helmet (properly taped) and O2 mask.
> No sissy cannulas. <G>
> Seriously, if you fly above 10,000 ft. daytime, or 5,000 ft. nighttime,
> then O2 is recommended.
> So go far it and be the envy of the hypoxiated.
> Have fun,
> Roy
Another consideration, maybe taking a ride in a USAF altitude chamber. You
get to feel how you in particular react to hypoxeia. They do open the chamber
to civilians.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Hey Walt I was parked three planes away from a bird dog aint dat a Cessna ?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Fricke
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spam Can?
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
Hey Waystoked! If you pull the prop all the way back, get as high as you
can, turn on the autopilot (to keep you ham fisted hands from destroying
lift), and top off your tanker, and turn on the air, you should be able to
make OSH nonstop! But what makes you think they will let you park any
closer to the Cessna 182's than you already do? (look across the snow fence
behind the CJ and Yak line).
Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net> wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock
Not to bring up another round of the Lloyd's, err Hatfield's and
McCoy's, but I just gotta know....
I'm *stoked* (CA word for "excited") to have in my possession two
diluter demand oxygen regulators. These are very rare units, difficult
to find, and most sources have dried up. They are brand new units and I
want to install them in my CJ. These units are still used in current
military aircraft including B-52's and A-6's. I am *way stoked* (CA
phrase for "very excited") that I paid pennies on the dollar for them.
I am worried, however, that if I do install these in my CJ that it will
no longer be considered a warbird and that I will have to park next to
the C182's at OSH, etc.
Since, in the past, modifications like O2 and an auto pilot have been
accused of turning CJ's into span cans, I just want to make sure that I
don't become a statistic... :)
Cheers,
TFIIC
Barry Hancock
Director of Operations
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | FOD for thought... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
David,
Did you see my selection of posts last week on this subject. I am in the
progress, after speaking to Mark Jeffries, of fabricating a ceconite patch
that will sit in the tailcone secured to the last frame before the mag flux
detector with wholes for the elevator and rudder cables. Mark has patterns
for these which he has kindly offered to make available from his web site
for you all to take a look at.
I know of 4 instances of this. When I bought my aircraft I found a bit of
sharp glass 6 inches by 3 inches UNDER MY SEAT. Imagine how bad that could
have been during an outside maneuver.
Thanks for posting that.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Laird
Subject: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
The following was in the EAA "e-hotline" today...
Yak-52 FOD Accidents Are a Warning to All
EAA Founder and Chairman Paul Poberezny recently received a letter from
National Transportation Safety Board Senior Air Safety Inspector Arnold
W. Scott telling about a spate of accidents around the world where
foreign object damage (FOD) has impaired or jammed the controls of the
Yak-52. The design is prone to this problem because the fuselage is
open behind the rear seat and the elevator control mechanism is close
to the fuselage floor. Many of the accidents have involved
fatalities, and aerobatics didnt seem to play a part in control
jamming caused by everything from an errant nut to an airsick bag and a
set of locking pliers. Scott urges Yak-52 owners to install some form
of barrier to protect the elevator bell crank from FOD jamming or to
install Plexiglas skin panels so they can inspect the mechanism before
flight.
Paul said the Yak should stand as an example for all pilots and
aircraft owners regardless of what they fly, because no aircraft is
immune to the controls being jammed by FOD.
Dave Laird
CJ6A N63536 "Betty"
Dallas
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Did that at Farnbourgh in England, went to la la land at 15,000
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spam Can?
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 10/17/2003 6:22:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
roy@wright.org writes:
> It's OK as along as you wear full helmet (properly taped) and O2 mask.
> No sissy cannulas. <G>
> Seriously, if you fly above 10,000 ft. daytime, or 5,000 ft. nighttime,
> then O2 is recommended.
> So go far it and be the envy of the hypoxiated.
> Have fun,
> Roy
Another consideration, maybe taking a ride in a USAF altitude chamber. You
get to feel how you in particular react to hypoxeia. They do open the
chamber
to civilians.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | FOD for thought... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Is the CJ exactly like the Yak in this way, or is this a difference?
I mean, independent of the fact that constant vigilance is necessary no
matter what you drive.
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> David,
> Did you see my selection of posts last week on this subject. I am in the
> progress, after speaking to Mark Jeffries, of fabricating a ceconite
> patch that will sit in the tailcone secured to the last frame before the
> mag flux detector with wholes for the elevator and rudder cables. Mark
> has patterns for these which he has kindly offered to make available
> from his web site for you all to take a look at.
>
> I know of 4 instances of this. When I bought my aircraft I found a bit
> of sharp glass 6 inches by 3 inches UNDER MY SEAT. Imagine how bad that
> could have been during an outside maneuver.
>
> Thanks for posting that.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Laird To:
> yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
> The following was in the EAA "e-hotline" today...
>
>
> Yak-52 FOD Accidents Are a Warning to All
> EAA Founder and Chairman Paul Poberezny recently received a letter from
> National Transportation Safety Board Senior Air Safety Inspector Arnold
> W. Scott telling about a spate of accidents around the world where
> foreign object damage (FOD) has impaired or jammed the controls of the
> Yak-52. The design is prone to this problem because the fuselage is open
> behind the rear seat and the elevator control mechanism is close to the
> fuselage floor. Many of the accidents have involved
> fatalities, and aerobatics didnt seem to play a part in control
> jamming caused by everything from an errant nut to an airsick bag and a
> set of locking pliers. Scott urges Yak-52 owners to install some form of
> barrier to protect the elevator bell crank from FOD jamming or to
> install Plexiglas skin panels so they can inspect the mechanism before
> flight.
>
> Paul said the Yak should stand as an example for all pilots and
> aircraft owners regardless of what they fly, because no aircraft is
> immune to the controls being jammed by FOD.
>
>
> Dave Laird
> CJ6A N63536 "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
T-W-I-M-C. (I lost your e-mail)
Sorry I didn't right back to you on those paint colors for the CJ-6.
I used DuPont Imron
RED = 29198U -- star and bars
WHITE =819U -- lettering
YELLOW =656U -- outline of star and bars plus the symbol in the star.
BLUE = 58360U -- under body
For the green which is a glossy green, I used:
#9001 Glaurit 21 Line, GREEN =#56
I hope this is a help.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Yak-52/50 Canopy Glass |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <niftyyak50@msn.com>
Does anyone know if the yak-52 canopy (windshield, slider, and rear) will
fit on the 50? I have heard the 50 will accept the 52 slider but not the
rest. Anyone know where I can get the 50 canopy glass?
Thanks!
Tim
PS. Mounted the Iris Gills on my 50 today and they look great! They were a
breeze to put on and now what is left is the rigging. I will be selling my
old louvers if anyone is interested!
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| Subject: | Re: FOD for thought... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Gus Fraser wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> David,
> Did you see my selection of posts last week on this subject.
Hi Gus, I did see your great posts last week. That's the reason this
article really caught my eye. I thought we
may find that info useful.
> I am in the
> progress, after speaking to Mark Jeffries, of fabricating a ceconite
> patch
> that will sit in the tailcone secured to the last frame before the mag
> flux
> detector with wholes for the elevator and rudder cables.
Sounds like a good idea...as long as the patch doesn't itself become
entangled in the cables...
How do we know how much deflection is normal in the cables at that
point in the system during max G loading and/or full control movement
Are the holes gonna be large enough to account for this? etc., etc.,
etc....
> Mark has patterns
> for these which he has kindly offered to make available from his web
> site
> for you all to take a look at.
cool!
>
> I know of 4 instances of this. When I bought my aircraft I found a bit
> of
> sharp glass 6 inches by 3 inches UNDER MY SEAT. Imagine how bad that
> could
> have been during an outside maneuver.
>
I found a small foam external control lock in Betty's aft fuselage
once... kinda freaked me out. I like my control locks on the OUTSIDE
of my airplane where I can see them when not flying, as opposed to on
the INSIDE trying to lock the controls when I am flying... but I'm
kinda funny in that regard. ;)
> Thanks for posting that.
You are most welcome.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Laird
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
> The following was in the EAA "e-hotline" today...
>
>
> Yak-52 FOD Accidents Are a Warning to All
> EAA Founder and Chairman Paul Poberezny recently received a letter from
> National Transportation Safety Board Senior Air Safety Inspector Arnold
> W. Scott telling about a spate of accidents around the world where
> foreign object damage (FOD) has impaired or jammed the controls of the
> Yak-52. The design is prone to this problem because the fuselage is
> open behind the rear seat and the elevator control mechanism is close
> to the fuselage floor. Many of the accidents have involved
> fatalities, and aerobatics didnt seem to play a part in control
> jamming caused by everything from an errant nut to an airsick bag and a
> set of locking pliers. Scott urges Yak-52 owners to install some form
> of barrier to protect the elevator bell crank from FOD jamming or to
> install Plexiglas skin panels so they can inspect the mechanism before
> flight.
>
> Paul said the Yak should stand as an example for all pilots and
> aircraft owners regardless of what they fly, because no aircraft is
> immune to the controls being jammed by FOD.
>
>
> Dave Laird
> CJ6A N63536 "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 07:58 PM, Jon Boede wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> Is the CJ exactly like the Yak in this way, or is this a difference?
I'd like to know the answer to that, too.
Dave Laird
CJ6A N63536 "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: speed and range |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
>
> hi all, Brian has prompted me to write.....!!!
Actually that was aimed at Mark Schrick because we ended up landing at an airport
without fuel because the Yak-52 with the 400 hp engine was just using too much
fuel.
OTOH your posting was quite interesting so I am glad I prompted you to post.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "gpa" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
Do the FOD accidents in the Yak52's involve only the elevator bell crank
located behind the second seat or has there been jamming of the controls at
other locations as well?
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> David,
> Did you see my selection of posts last week on this subject. I am in the
> progress, after speaking to Mark Jeffries, of fabricating a ceconite patch
> that will sit in the tailcone secured to the last frame before the mag
flux
> detector with wholes for the elevator and rudder cables. Mark has patterns
> for these which he has kindly offered to make available from his web site
> for you all to take a look at.
>
> I know of 4 instances of this. When I bought my aircraft I found a bit of
> sharp glass 6 inches by 3 inches UNDER MY SEAT. Imagine how bad that could
> have been during an outside maneuver.
>
> Thanks for posting that.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Laird
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
> The following was in the EAA "e-hotline" today...
>
>
> Yak-52 FOD Accidents Are a Warning to All
> EAA Founder and Chairman Paul Poberezny recently received a letter from
> National Transportation Safety Board Senior Air Safety Inspector Arnold
> W. Scott telling about a spate of accidents around the world where
> foreign object damage (FOD) has impaired or jammed the controls of the
> Yak-52. The design is prone to this problem because the fuselage is
> open behind the rear seat and the elevator control mechanism is close
> to the fuselage floor. Many of the accidents have involved
> fatalities, and aerobatics didnt seem to play a part in control
> jamming caused by everything from an errant nut to an airsick bag and a
> set of locking pliers. Scott urges Yak-52 owners to install some form
> of barrier to protect the elevator bell crank from FOD jamming or to
> install Plexiglas skin panels so they can inspect the mechanism before
> flight.
>
> Paul said the Yak should stand as an example for all pilots and
> aircraft owners regardless of what they fly, because no aircraft is
> immune to the controls being jammed by FOD.
>
>
> Dave Laird
> CJ6A N63536 "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Barry Hancock wrote:
> I'm *stoked* (CA word for "excited") to have in my possession two
> diluter demand oxygen regulators. These are very rare units, difficult
> to find, and most sources have dried up. They are brand new units and I
> want to install them in my CJ. These units are still used in current
> military aircraft including B-52's and A-6's. I am *way stoked* (CA
> phrase for "very excited") that I paid pennies on the dollar for them.
And they are not particularly efficient. You will use more O2 with those regulators
than almost anything else out there. The electronic demand system in Hal's
plane is a LOT more efficient. They have a mask that works with that system
and is compatible with standard military bayonet mask attach points.
But if you are not concerned about O2 usage because you have your own set of welding
bottles with which to refill your system, go for it.
> I am worried, however, that if I do install these in my CJ that it will
> no longer be considered a warbird and that I will have to park next to
> the C182's at OSH, etc.
Hey, don't ask me. I fly a Chumooney. (Or is that a Mooneyjiao?)
> Since, in the past, modifications like O2 and an auto pilot have been
> accused of turning CJ's into span cans, I just want to make sure that I
> don't become a statistic... :)
Nothing you could do at this point would change our opinion of you so live it up!
:
)
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brian@greenflashnetworks.com 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
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| Subject: | engine power settings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
YES Brian, I remember that trip well and did enjoy myself. The extra fuel
tank in the Yak 52W works well now.
Lesson learned, never use a cross country to trouble shoot a newly over
hauled aircraft freshly assembled.
It was a great trip and learned a lot from you those three days.
Great memories..........
Remember the Corn Palace?
Mark SHREK Schrick
YAK Driver, Inc
Western USA Dealer for AEROSTAR (Yak 52TW /W)
Fully Restored YAK 52s, Can help met anyones budget !!
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
(408) 323-5150 phone / fax
(408) 391-6664 cell
schrick@pacbell.net
www.YAKDRIVER.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Yak-List: engine power settings
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Skipsly@aol.com wrote:
> pets, that's as low an RPM as I ever see. I use 2150 for cruise and 2200
for
> acro. I really can't imagine any setting less than that unless you're
Sparky
> Lloyd trying to prove that the world is flat. Or ovoid. Or whatever. I've
> always believed that Bushi Cheng put all those RPMs in there for us to
use!
And they put the knobs in there so we can change things too.
And, by the way Skip, when you go farther and can skip a gas stop, you get
to your destination faster even if the airplane is flying more slowly.
Sump'in to think about when you are on you way to OSH and find that the
airport you were aiming for doesn't offer fuel anymore. Let me tell you,
pumping it out of the neighbor's car so you can make it to the next airport
really slows down your average speed, right Mark?
It also reduces the wallet burn and leaves more money for the extra beers I
will have to drink while waiting for you because you ziped on ahead of me
but had to make two more gas stops and ended up an hour or more behind me.
And Sly, I spend a lot of time at 2200 when doing acro too. For shorter
hops I cruise at 2100 or 2150, 2000 when leading a flight. But when I want
to get to Linden, NJ, from Chilicothe, OH, in one hop, you can bet that the
prop control comes waaaaay back. In fact, my prop hits the corse-pitch stop
and doesn't regulate anymore.
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