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1. 05:58 AM - Re: FOD for thought... (Gus Fraser)
2. 06:10 AM - Re: engine power settings (Brian Lloyd)
3. 08:11 AM - Re: engine power settings.......the trip from OSH to California (Mark Schrick)
4. 08:48 AM - Cross country (Brian Lloyd)
5. 04:14 PM - Yak 50 help needed (Walt Fricke)
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| Subject: | FOD for thought... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
two of these events were the bellcrank in the far end of the ail cone, where
the elevator counterweight is, see my earlier post for pictures
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of gpa
Subject: Re: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
--> Yak-List message posted by: "gpa" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
Do the FOD accidents in the Yak52's involve only the elevator bell crank
located behind the second seat or has there been jamming of the controls at
other locations as well?
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> David,
> Did you see my selection of posts last week on this subject. I am in the
> progress, after speaking to Mark Jeffries, of fabricating a ceconite patch
> that will sit in the tailcone secured to the last frame before the mag
flux
> detector with wholes for the elevator and rudder cables. Mark has patterns
> for these which he has kindly offered to make available from his web site
> for you all to take a look at.
>
> I know of 4 instances of this. When I bought my aircraft I found a bit of
> sharp glass 6 inches by 3 inches UNDER MY SEAT. Imagine how bad that could
> have been during an outside maneuver.
>
> Thanks for posting that.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Laird
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: FOD for thought...
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
> The following was in the EAA "e-hotline" today...
>
>
> Yak-52 FOD Accidents Are a Warning to All
> EAA Founder and Chairman Paul Poberezny recently received a letter from
> National Transportation Safety Board Senior Air Safety Inspector Arnold
> W. Scott telling about a spate of accidents around the world where
> foreign object damage (FOD) has impaired or jammed the controls of the
> Yak-52. The design is prone to this problem because the fuselage is
> open behind the rear seat and the elevator control mechanism is close
> to the fuselage floor. Many of the accidents have involved
> fatalities, and aerobatics didnt seem to play a part in control
> jamming caused by everything from an errant nut to an airsick bag and a
> set of locking pliers. Scott urges Yak-52 owners to install some form
> of barrier to protect the elevator bell crank from FOD jamming or to
> install Plexiglas skin panels so they can inspect the mechanism before
> flight.
>
> Paul said the Yak should stand as an example for all pilots and
> aircraft owners regardless of what they fly, because no aircraft is
> immune to the controls being jammed by FOD.
>
>
> Dave Laird
> CJ6A N63536 "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: engine power settings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Mark Schrick wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
>
> YES Brian, I remember that trip well and did enjoy myself. The extra fuel
> tank in the Yak 52W works well now.
That is good. I bet that reduces the pucker-factor enormously.
> Lesson learned, never use a cross country to trouble shoot a newly over
> hauled aircraft freshly assembled.
It tends not to be the best way. For that matter, a cross-country cross-country
is not the best thing to do with any airplane with which you are unfamiliar.
I just learned that lesson a couple of years earlier than you did. :-)
> It was a great trip and learned a lot from you those three days.
So did I.
> Great memories..........
>
> Remember the Corn Palace?
Yes. It is one of my favorite places. And to the rest of the list, you guys are
missing out if you don't stop in Mitchell, South Dakota, to visit the Corn
Palace!
But I remember Ft. Bridger better. I remember siphoning the remaining avgas out
of my plane for yours and then siphoning the mogas out of that guy's car to
put into my plane so we will both have enough to make it 25nm to the next airport
with fuel. And I remember at the tail end of every hop the steady countdown
over the radio as you watched those little lights getting lower and lower and
lower and ...
But, what the hey! I got to visit more small airports in the US than I ever thought
possible in one cross country trip! :-)
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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| Subject: | engine power settings.......the trip from OSH to California |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Everything thing you said is VERY VERY TRUE!!!!!!
Good times and Mitchell, SD had one of the nicest FBO's seen on the trip
(and the best looking owner). They even placed our Yaks in the hanger for
the night just to protect them.
Ft Bridger was interesting due to 40kt gusts on a cross wind landing and
THEN NO FUEL. The one thing that was constant that trip. Every single
airport had nice people willing to help, bring drinks, ask about the planes,
or just say "Is there anything else I can get you"
That's what I remember the most on that trip.
When going to OSH next year.......Take a friend and enjoy the ride together.
It was fun and it is much safer that way.
Take it from someone that learned from someone that has done it many years
and now I can help the next new YAK pilot.
Extended Fuel tanks are great things to have..............2.75 hrs now with
30 min reserve (Yak 52 behind back seat AUX tank) from George Coy (GESOCO
Industries)
Mark "SHREK" Schrick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine power settings
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Mark Schrick wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
>
> YES Brian, I remember that trip well and did enjoy myself. The extra fuel
> tank in the Yak 52W works well now.
That is good. I bet that reduces the pucker-factor enormously.
> Lesson learned, never use a cross country to trouble shoot a newly over
> hauled aircraft freshly assembled.
It tends not to be the best way. For that matter, a cross-country
cross-country is not the best thing to do with any airplane with which you
are unfamiliar. I just learned that lesson a couple of years earlier than
you did. :-)
> It was a great trip and learned a lot from you those three days.
So did I.
> Great memories..........
>
> Remember the Corn Palace?
Yes. It is one of my favorite places. And to the rest of the list, you
guys are missing out if you don't stop in Mitchell, South Dakota, to visit
the Corn Palace!
But I remember Ft. Bridger better. I remember siphoning the remaining avgas
out of my plane for yours and then siphoning the mogas out of that guy's car
to put into my plane so we will both have enough to make it 25nm to the next
airport with fuel. And I remember at the tail end of every hop the steady
countdown over the radio as you watched those little lights getting lower
and lower and lower and ...
But, what the hey! I got to visit more small airports in the US than I ever
thought possible in one cross country trip! :-)
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Mark Schrick wrote:
> Ft Bridger was interesting due to 40kt gusts on a cross wind landing and
> THEN NO FUEL.
I had forgotten the cross-wind landing. Yeah, it was right up there. We were
probably nearing the cross-wind capabilities of the airplanes on landing.
> The one thing that was constant that trip. Every single
> airport had nice people willing to help, bring drinks, ask about the planes,
> or just say "Is there anything else I can get you"
Yes. Once you get out of the cities the people are a lot friendlier.
Coming back from OSH a couple of years earlier than our trip I flew the Clipper
back to California from OSH with a friend from the UK. He does business in the
big cities here and is not particularly enamored of the US as a result. We
spent the trip across the mid west hopping from grass strip to grass strip in
the farming communities at 90 kts and about 1000' AGL. He was astounded at the
friendly and helpful nature of people in the heartland. The final capstone
was when the airport manager at Chadron, Nebraska, put us up in his grandmother's
house because the motels were all full.
> That's what I remember the most on that trip.
Yeah, when I start feeling bad about this country I take a little trip and get
to know the backbone just a little better again. Too bad we can't make the politicians
do that on a regular basis. When my father was a congressman he said
that was the biggest problem with the job. You are so protected from the real
world on The Hill and then you start believing your own bullshit (his words).
I know he tried really hard not to have that happen.
> When going to OSH next year.......Take a friend and enjoy the ride together.
> It was fun and it is much safer that way.
And stop at the little airports and grass strips. Take an extra day to do it.
The Yak-52 and CJ6A like grass just fine. An overhead break is likely to bring
half the town down to meet you and the other half will know you by name by
the time you get to the coffee shop for lunch. Give a couple of kids a young-eagle
ride and then press on.
> Take it from someone that learned from someone that has done it many years
> and now I can help the next new YAK pilot.
I miss it. I am planning to head across country to swap airplanes in California
on Monday or Tuesday. I hope to stop and visit some of my Yak/CJ buddies in
Florida that first night.
> Extended Fuel tanks are great things to have..............2.75 hrs now with
> 30 min reserve (Yak 52 behind back seat AUX tank) from George Coy (GESOCO
> Industries)
You can never have too much fuel.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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| Subject: | Yak 50 help needed |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
My yak 50 has developed a pretty awesome tailwheel shimmy and it looks as though
the yoke is worn out. Anyone have any insights, parts, ideas?
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