Yak-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/04/03


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:17 AM - emg leak. (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
     2. 03:50 AM - Re: Oil Filter for my CJ (TASTEVENS1@aol.com)
     3. 07:39 AM - FOD Suggestions (Tom Johnson)
     4. 08:20 AM - Alternators for the M14P (Yakjock)
     5. 09:20 AM - Re: FOD Suggestions (Terry Calloway)
     6. 11:04 AM - Re: FOD Suggestions (A. Dennis Savarese)
     7. 11:14 AM - Re: emg leak. (owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com)
     8. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/31/03 (Ron Davis)
     9. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/31/03 (Jorgen Nielsen @ Mweb)
    10. 02:01 PM - HS6K??? (Ernie)
    11. 02:30 PM - Re: HS6K??? (Doug Sapp)
    12. 07:06 PM - Re: Alternators for the M14P (Jim Griffin)
    13. 08:24 PM - Re: Alternators for the M14P (Sam Sax)
    14. 08:25 PM - YAK-52 Tires (Frank Haertlein)
    15. 11:46 PM - Re: Alternators for the M14P (Brian Lloyd)
    16. 11:50 PM - Re: Alternators for the M14P (Brian Lloyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:17:08 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
    Subject: emg leak.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> Sir. you need to overhaul the shuttle valve attached to the lifters. lots of crud in them and the balls will be out of round and not re sealing. good luck. YAK UK. > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> > > Did you close the emergency air valves in the front and rear cockpit? > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Blowoff Valve > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" > <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > > > > I depleted both my main and reserve air system to inspect the air > tanks. > > Everything was fine but now when I try to refill the air, the BlowOff > > Valve (Exhaust Valve) under the pilot seat leaks all the air out at > the > > same speed I put it in - My question is : can this valve be opened and > > cleaned or must it be replaced? > > > > Thanks in advance > > Deon Esterhuizen > > N192YK > > Best regards Mark Jefferies : Managing director YAK UK Ltd Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile : Conditions/ terms of business


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    Time: 03:50:52 AM PST US
    From: TASTEVENS1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Oil Filter for my CJ
    --> Yak-List message posted by: TASTEVENS1@aol.com I just installed an airwolf filter on my yak 52w. The conversion to metric fitting was aided by a referral from the folks at airwolf. Timothy A. Stevens Email To: TAStevens1@aol.com


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    Time: 07:39:27 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
    Subject: FOD Suggestions
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> I'm making a simple change to the inspection panel under my left horizontal. Instead of clear, we're just replacing the screws with those 1/4 turn fasteners. So that panel will be as easy to remove as the "avionics" panel up on the front right. Another friend made an insightful recommendation .. .. From "Cheetah Dan" in Chandler. . . "Might be simpler to go to Harbor Freight and pick up some of those cow magnets and place them strategically near the pulleys if you're that worried about it." Tj ********************************** Thomas Johnson Senior Account Executive 1983 Yak 52 Tel: 800-851-2997 Fax: 480-951-1455 Cell: 602-628-2701 E: tjohnson@cannonaviation.com ADDRESS CHANGE: New Suite # is 204


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    Time: 08:20:29 AM PST US
    From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
    Subject: Alternators for the M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Some time back someone posted an article on a 50 amp alternator that fit the M14P. If memory serves they also indicated that by changing something the alternator could be converted to a 100 amp alternator. I'd appreciate feedback on this or other ideas folks may have for a 50 plus amp alternator. I am aware that B&C has one . Also, I am planning on installing HID landing lights. Anyone have ideas on good ones to use and where I can source them? Thanks for the help. Hal Hal Morley CJ-6A "8" CJ-6A "Hana Ho!" (503) 704-6559 cell


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    Time: 09:20:57 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Re: FOD Suggestions
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com> As well, I inspect my tail secton and other areas regularly and have also found not metalic objects, ruling out the use of magnets. tc >>> tjohnson@cannonaviation.com 11/04/03 9:37 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> I'm making a simple change to the inspection panel under my left horizontal. Instead of clear, we're just replacing the screws with those 1/4 turn fasteners. So that panel will be as easy to remove as the "avionics" panel up on the front right. Another friend made an insightful recommendation .. .. From "Cheetah Dan" in Chandler. . . "Might be simpler to go to Harbor Freight and pick up some of those cow magnets and place them strategically near the pulleys if you're that worried about it." Tj ********************************** Thomas Johnson Senior Account Executive 1983 Yak 52 Tel: 800-851-2997 Fax: 480-951-1455 Cell: 602-628-2701 E: tjohnson@cannonaviation.com ADDRESS CHANGE: New Suite # is 204


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    Time: 11:04:42 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: FOD Suggestions
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> I will have the prototype "cover" finished for the rear bulkhead by the end of this week. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Subject: Yak-List: FOD Suggestions > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > I'm making a simple change to the inspection panel under my left horizontal. > Instead of clear, we're just replacing the screws with those 1/4 turn fasteners. > So that panel will be as easy to remove as the "avionics" panel up on the front right. > > Another friend made an insightful recommendation .. .. > > From "Cheetah Dan" in Chandler. . . "Might be simpler to go to Harbor Freight and pick up some of those cow magnets and place them strategically near the pulleys if you're that worried about it." > > Tj > > ********************************** > Thomas Johnson > Senior Account Executive > 1983 Yak 52 > Tel: 800-851-2997 > Fax: 480-951-1455 > Cell: 602-628-2701 > E: tjohnson@cannonaviation.com > ADDRESS CHANGE: New Suite # is 204 > >


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    Time: 11:14:23 AM PST US
    From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: emg leak.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark@yakuk.com> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" Sir. you need to overhaul the shuttle valve attached to the lifters. lots of crud in them and the balls will be out of round and not re sealing. good luck. YAK UK. > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > Did you close the emergency air valves in the front and rear cockpit? > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deon Esterhuizen" > To: > Subject: Yak-List: Blowoff Valve > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" > > > > > I depleted both my main and reserve air system to inspect the air > tanks. > > Everything was fine but now when I try to refill the air, the BlowOff > > Valve (Exhaust Valve) under the pilot seat leaks all the air out at > the > > same speed I put it in - My question is : can this valve be opened and > > cleaned or must it be replaced? > > > > Thanks in advance > > Deon Esterhuizen > > N192YK > > Best regards Mark Jefferies : Managing director YAK UK Ltd Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile : Conditions/ terms of business The purpose of the valve is to drain out minor occasional leaksand it it adjasted to 5 bars. In your case valve itself is probably seized- open it and check ---------------------------------


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    Time: 12:44:47 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/31/03
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> You better look around some more. There might be a sickle still in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "eugene stansbery" <estansbery@houston.rr.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/31/03 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "eugene stansbery" <estansbery@houston.rr.com> > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net> > > > > I found a pen that evidently fell out somebody's shirt pocket after > > banging on the bottom of my fuselage and hearing something. > > While restoring my CJ, I found a Chinese hammer in one of the compartments > on the bottom of the fuselage. Imaging that banging around during > aerobatics. > > Gene Stansbery > N2278 > >


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    Time: 01:03:38 PM PST US
    From: "Jorgen Nielsen @ Mweb" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/31/03
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen @ Mweb" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> If it only gets stuck occasionally, would that make it a fickle sickle? -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Davis Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/31/03 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> You better look around some more. There might be a sickle still in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "eugene stansbery" <estansbery@houston.rr.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/31/03 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "eugene stansbery" <estansbery@houston.rr.com> > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net> > > > > I found a pen that evidently fell out somebody's shirt pocket after > > banging on the bottom of my fuselage and hearing something. > > While restoring my CJ, I found a Chinese hammer in one of the compartments > on the bottom of the fuselage. Imaging that banging around during > aerobatics. > > Gene Stansbery > N2278 > >


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    Time: 02:01:16 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: HS6K???
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I was just browsing barnstormers and saw an ad for 3 bladed props for Housai HS6A and HS6K engines. What is the K motor all about. And does anyone know about these props and how well they work etc? Ernie


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    Time: 02:30:09 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: HS6K???
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Ernie I believe the K is the new 400hp engine. Contact Joe howse joeh@shaw.ca I am sure he can give you the low down on the props and engine. Best, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie Subject: Yak-List: HS6K??? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I was just browsing barnstormers and saw an ad for 3 bladed props for Housai HS6A and HS6K engines. What is the K motor all about. And does anyone know about these props and how well they work etc? Ernie


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    Time: 07:06:02 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Alternators for the M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net> I have a 10 amp B & C alternator on my Housai and it works fine. Steve Culp told me he had placed a 50 amp on it initially and had some problems. I have 2 motorcycle batteries in the plane and I suspect it was just too much amperage. Make sure that you use their solid state voltage regulator with it. If you go with the 50 amp I would also purchase their overvoltage protection as well. Good Luck Jim Griffin CJ6-A 273SC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Subject: Yak-List: Alternators for the M14P > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> > > Some time back someone posted an article on a 50 amp alternator that fit the M14P. If memory serves they also indicated that by changing something the alternator could be converted to a 100 amp alternator. I'd appreciate feedback on this or other ideas folks may have for a 50 plus amp alternator. I am aware that B&C has one . > > Also, I am planning on installing HID landing lights. Anyone have ideas on good ones to use and where I can source them? > > Thanks for the help. > > Hal > > Hal Morley > CJ-6A "8" > CJ-6A "Hana Ho!" > > (503) 704-6559 cell > >


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    Time: 08:24:34 PM PST US
    From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Alternators for the M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> Hal, I have been flying with the B&C 35amp alternator for over three years now with flawless. It come with a stat-of-the-art external regulator and the whole thing weighs in at 7.5lbs (!). By the time you yank out the heavy generator and old regulator/filter assys, you end up at least 25lbs lighter on the nose. Although possible, I am not aware of B&C having a 50amp unit. There was an alternator with internal regulator (out of some commercial truck that was adapted to the M-14P) floating around but I have no specifics. Sam Sax 305.215.5599 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Yakjock Subject: Yak-List: Alternators for the M14P --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Some time back someone posted an article on a 50 amp alternator that fit the M14P. If memory serves they also indicated that by changing something the alternator could be converted to a 100 amp alternator. I'd appreciate feedback on this or other ideas folks may have for a 50 plus amp alternator. I am aware that B&C has one . Also, I am planning on installing HID landing lights. Anyone have ideas on good ones to use and where I can source them? Thanks for the help. Hal Hal Morley CJ-6A "8" CJ-6A "Hana Ho!" (503) 704-6559 cell


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    Time: 08:25:08 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: YAK-52 Tires
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Dear Yakinators........ OK, I'm gonna complain a little. I've bought three sets of new tires for my 52 in the last year. I've done maybe 120 hours flying in that time. The tires are from Desser and they have got to be the softest compound tires I've ever seen. OK, so the first set have worn prematurely due to over aggressive braking, I'll grant that. But the two subsequent sets of tires I've treated very gently yet they have also worn out way too fast. I realize Desser is the EXCLUSIVE supplier of US made tires but they are using way too soft a compound in the rubber for my liking. It's got to be a planned obsolescence kind of thing.....they can get away with doing it because nobody else supplies tires for our YAK-52's! I've heard the Russian tires are tough as nails. "Run em' until the cords start showing" I've been told! I'd like to get a couple of sets. Anybody have a supplier? By-the-way, Desser will re-cap your worn tires. They use a slightly harder compound when they do it and the tire lasts longer but they are still wayyyy too soft with a wayyyy too short a lifespan in my estimation. Original Russian tires anyone? Frank N9110M YAK-52


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    Time: 11:46:26 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternators for the M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Yakjock wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> > > Some time back someone posted an article on a 50 amp alternator that > fit the M14P. If memory serves they also indicated that by changing > something the alternator could be converted to a 100 amp alternator. You really can't Hal. The current rating of the alternator is primarily defined by the size wire used in the stator. A 100A stator probably won't fit in the same housing. You might be able to squeeze a 70A stator into a 50A case if they make one. You would also need to install larger diodes. > I'd appreciate feedback on this or other ideas folks may have for a > 50 plus amp alternator. I am aware that B&C has one . I didn't think B&C had anything that large. > Also, I am planning on installing HID landing lights. Anyone have > ideas on good ones to use and where I can source them? Lopresti makes HID landing-light upgrades for spam cans. Do you have a source for 28V HID lights? -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4


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    Time: 11:50:21 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternators for the M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Jim Griffin wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net> > > I have a 10 amp B & C alternator on my Housai and it works fine. Steve Culp > told me he had placed a 50 amp on it initially and had some problems. I have > 2 motorcycle batteries in the plane and I suspect it was just too much > amperage. The motorcycle batteries will just take as much as they need. They should work just fine. OTOH, if the alternator fails you won't have power for very long. > Make sure that you use their solid state voltage regulator with > it. If you go with the 50 amp I would also purchase their overvoltage > protection as well. The alternator regulator/controller from B&C has over voltage protection built-in. It also has temperature compensation to prevent overcharging during the summer and undercharging in the winter. This is a really useful feature. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4




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