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1. 12:17 AM - A Special Thank You - List of Contributors (Matt Dralle)
2. 12:30 AM - YAK-50 (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
3. 12:52 AM - Re: less extraordinary customer service (Oliver Neufert)
4. 09:37 AM - PSP clinic update (Barry Hancock)
5. 09:47 AM - Yak-50 (Richard Goode)
6. 10:54 AM - Yak 50 crosswinds (Dean Courtney)
7. 01:49 PM - Re: Wilga Parts needed (Genzlinger, Reade)
8. 03:23 PM - Yak 18T avionics (Bruce Campbell)
9. 04:47 PM - SE formation clinic (cjpilot710@aol.com)
10. 05:24 PM - Re: less extraordinary customer service (Richard Basiliere)
11. 05:43 PM - The RPA I (Drew Blahnick)
12. 05:56 PM - Re: SE formation clinic (Ernest Martinez)
13. 07:35 PM - Re: SE formation clinic (cjpilot710@aol.com)
14. 09:20 PM - Re: SE formation clinic (Ronald Kalemba)
15. 10:18 PM - Re: SE formation clinic (Terry Calloway)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
This year's List Fund Raiser was pleasantly successful and I want to thank
everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the continued
operation and upgrade of these Lists! Below you will find the complete
list of this year's Contributors. Its these great guys that make it all
possible! All of the List members owe these special people a debt of
gratitude.
I would also like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder Bookstore (
http://www.buildersbooks.com ) for again this year providing free and
substantially discounted merchandise in support of the Fund Raiser. Andy
is a great guy and I encourage you to check out his very nice web
site. Thanks again, Andy!!
For those of you that ordered gifts with your Contribution, I will be
shipping these out over the next few weeks as the merchandise arrives and
as I can get all of the orders processed. Its quite a job so I appreciate
your patience! I hope to have everything on its way by the end of the
month if not sooner.
If you would still like to make a Contribution to support the Lists, please
feel free to do so! If you'd like to receive one of the awesome free
gifts, they will be available on the web page though the end of the
month. The Contribution web page can be found here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Finally, I would like to once again sincerely thank each and everyone of
you that took the time to make a Contribution to support the Lists this
year! Your kind support greatly appreciated!
THANK YOU!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
------------------- 2003 List of Contributors #1 -----------------
Adamson, Arden
Akin, Thomas
Alber, John
Alexander, Don
Alexander, George
Allender, Pat
Allison, Steven
Amick, Michael
Amundsen, Blair
Anderson, Douglas
Anderson, Edward
Andrews, Myles
Anthony, Bruce
Applefeld, Gerald
Aronson, David
Aschliman, Jim
Atkinson, Harold
Austin, Peter
Avant, David
Ayers, Jim
Babb, Tony
Bahrns, Stan
Bailey, Rick
Baker, Gary
Baker, James
Baker, Owen
Baker, Roger
Bales, Robert
Ballenger, Jim
Balmer, G
Banus, Mark
Barnett, William
Barrie, Darwin
Barter, Thomas
Basiliere, Richard
Bataller, Gary
Batte, W.Granville
Bean, James
Bean, Robert
Beard, Harley
Becker, Charles
Bell, BruceB.
Belted, Air Power, Ltd
Benham, Dallas
Benjamin, Hal
Benson, Lonn
Benson, Lonnie
Berg, Wayne
Bergeron, Daniel
Bernard, William
Berner, Walter
Bernier, Jim
Berry, Bruce
Bertelli, John
Bertrand, Carl
Berube, Bob
Bezzard, Richar
Bidle, Jerry
Bieberdorf, Roger
Bish, Dan
Blackwell, Charles
Blake, Peter
Blank, Steven
Blomgren, Jack
Bohannon, Larry
Bond, Charles
Bonsell, Edward
Booze, Greg
Borne, Chuck
Bosomworth, David
Boucher, Michel
Boulet, Paul
Bourne, Larry
Bowen, Larry
Bowhay, Eustace
Brame, Charles
Branstrom, Dan
Brasch, Glenn
Breckenridge, Bruce
Brick, John
Brogley, Michael
Brooks, Chris
Brooks, John
Brooks, Ken
Brooks, William
Broomell, Glenn
Brown, Gerald R.
Bruce, L.B.
Bruch, Stein
Brunke, Judy
Buchanan, Sam
Buchmann, Kenneth
Buess, Alfred
Bullock, Jack
Bumhoffer, Al
Burke, James
Burks, Terrell
Burns, John
Burton, Charlie
Burton, James
Burton, Ron
Butcher, James
Butcher, Ron
Butler, Francis
Butterfield, John
Buyse, Lieven
Calhoun, Ron
Calloway, Terry
Campbell, Greg
Cann, Robert
Cantrell, Jimmy
Capen, Ralph
Capra, Salvatore
Cardell, William
Carden, Richard
CarillonSr., Paul
Carney, William
Carpenter, Kenneth
Carr, David
Carroll, Randy
Carson, Rowland
Carter, David
Cary, William
Challgren, Stanley
Chambers, Ken
Champ, Nicolas
Chandler, Charles
Chandler, John
Ciolino, John
Clark, James
Clark, John
Clarkson, Scott
Clayton, James
Cliff, John
Cloud, Ralph
Clyma, Frank
Cochran, Jerry
Coffey, John
Coggins, Michael
Cole, Gary
Cole, Gerry
Colley, Larry
Colucci, Tony
Combined, Merchants
Combs, Doyle
Comer, Dave
Comfort, Gordon
Compton, Scott
Conaway, James
Condrey, Bob
Cone, James
Connell, Joseph
Conrad, Gerald
Conti, Richard
Cook, Craig
Cooley, John
Cooper, James
Corbalis, Leo
Corbette, Claude
Corder, Michael
Corner, Jim
Cotter, Tim
Cotton, David
Cottrell, Larry
Coulter, Carlin
Coursey, William
Courtney, Dean
Courtney, James
Couture, Wayne
Cribb, William
Croke, Jon
Crook, Tracy
Crosby, Harry
Crosley, Richard
Cruikshank, Bruce
D'Onofrio, John
Dalstrom, Douglas
Dalton, Bob
Daniel, Karie
Danielsen, HansJurgen
Darby, Frank
Daudt, Larry
Davenport, Jimmy
Davidson, Adam And Janet
Davidson, Jeff
Davies, Brian
Davis, Charles
Davis, Chris
Davis, Nathan
Davis, Peter
Davis, Terry
Dawson , Clif
Dawson, Garth
DeJong, Jan
Dearinger, William
Decramer, Dick
Deford, David
Denham, Bob
Dennis, Chris
Derouchey, Bill
Desmond, Richard
Devaney, Bob
Devere, Al
Diehl, Don
Diffenbaugh, Scott
Disher, John
Dixon, Thomas (Steve)
Dominy, Ken
Donaldson, Norman
Doran, Thomas
Dresden, Robert
Driscoll, Patrick
Dube, Bill
Dudley, Richard
Duffy, Russell
Dukerich, Thomas
Dumoret, Paul
Eagleston, Ron
Eckel, John
Edwards, Garland
Edwards, Joseph
Eginton, William
Eli, Robert
Ellenberger, Mike
Elliott, Andrew
Ellison, Craig
Enga, Wallace
Engh, Duncan
Enns, Dennis
Erb, Bob
Erickson, Alan
Erickson, Gerald
Erikson, Donald
Ervin, Tom
Erwin, Chip
Esterhuizen, Deon
Etherington, Al
Evans, Walt
Evenson, Roger
Fackler, Ken
Faris, Kevin
Farmer, Daniel
Fasching, John
Feldmann, StephenW.
Ferrer, Gabriel
Finley, John
Finley, Jon
Fischer, Doug
Fishe, JF
Fisher, Dru
Fisher, Michael
Fisher, Tom
Fitzpatrick, Robert
Flamini, Dennis
Flavin, John
Fleck, Joe
Foerster, James
Fogerson, Richard
Forrest, Gerald
Fox, Byron
Franz, Carl
Frazier, Ford
Frazier, Vince
Friedland, Thomas
Frizzell, Alex
Frye, Dwight
Fulgham, W.R.
Fulmer, JosephA
Fux, Franz
Gagnon, Laurent
Gagnon, Tim
Galati, Rick
Gallagher, Noel
Galley, Cy
Gantzer, Charles
Gardner, Albert
Gardner, Terrence
Garner, Mitchell
Gates, Leo
Gawronski, Brian
Gaylen Lerohl, Terminaltown
Geldermann, Dan
Genzlinger, Reade
George, William
Gerken, James
German, Mark
Gernetzke-hays, Jill
Gherardini, Don
Giacona, William
Giddens, Gerald
Gillespie, Dick
Giusti, Roberto
Glass, Roy
Golden, Shane
Gonzalez, Jorge
Goode, Richard
Goodings, John
Goodman, David
Goolsby, JamesE.
Gordon, Keith
Gott, Shelby
Goudinoff, Peter
Gowing, John
Grabb, Gary
Graber, Joel
Graham, Gary
Graham, Jim
Graham, W.Doyce
Grant, Jordan
Grebe, David
Green, Luther
Green, Roger
Greenough, Jim
Gregory, Michael
Griffin, Bill
Griffin, James
Griffin, Robert
Grosse, John
Gustafson, Aaron
Haertlein, Frank
Hagar, Steve
Haley, Gary
Hallsten, Keith
Hamer, Steve
Hamilton, William J
Hand, Chris
Hankins, Roger
Hankinson, Jimmy
Harbour, Keith
Hardaway, Mike
Harding, Joel
Harmon, John
Harrison, Nigel
Hartwig, Richard
Harvey, Dale
Hasper, Jim
Hatch, Pat
Hatcher, Edmund
Hatfield, Cecil Jr.
Hauck, JohnR
Haynes, Joel
Heath, Donald
Hefner, Jim
Heindl, Karl
Heitman, Christopher
Helming, Larry
Heritch, Ian
Herminghaus, John
Herren, Bill
Hetrick, Dale
Heykoop, John
Hibbing, William
Hill, Jeff
Hill, Ken
Hill, Stanley A
Himes, Joe
Hinrichsen, Jim
Hodgson, Mark
Hodgson, Robert
Hoffman, Carl
Hoffman, Curtis
Hoffmann, Thomas
Hohos, Charles
Holifield, Steve
Holland, Mike
Holland, Rick
Holmes, Tom
Hood, Bill
Hooper, Gerald
Hooper, Randy
Horton, Kevin
Hostetler, Donald
Howell, Pete
Howerton, Bill
Hubbard, Eugene
Hudson, Jeff
Hueltz, Wolfgang
Huff, Scott
Huft, John
Hughes, Robert
Hulen, Fred
Humbert, Robert
Humes, Hubert
Humes, Hugh
Humphrey, Roger
Hunt, Peter
Hunt, Wallace G
Hurd, James
Hurst, Kingsley
Hutchison, Tom
Hyde, David
Ice, Michael
Iddon, Richard
Irvin, Robert
Isler, Jerry
Jackson, Kevin
Jacobson, Marshall
Jannakos, Gregory
Jaussi, Curtis
Jenkins, John
Jensen, Jerry
Jewell, James
Johannsson, Johann G.
John Allen Hurn, Hurns Aircraft
Johnsen, Svein
Johnson, Bruce
Johnson, Dale
Johnson, Dennis
Johnson, Les
Johnson, Murray
Johnson, Robert
Johnston, Stephen
Jones, Eric
Joosten, Craig
Jordan, JR
Joyce, David
Jurotich, Matthew
Kahn, Steve
Kaluza, Charles
Karmy, Andrew
Kaser, Jim
Kayner, Dennis
Kellum, Mark
Kempthorne, Hal
Kent, John
Kerr, John
Kerr, Joseph
Kesterton, Donald
Kilburg, Larry
Killion, Clay
Kimsey, Thomas
Kinney, Kevin
Kirby, Graham
Kirk, Tony
Knepper, Harold
Knoll, Lynn
Kohn, Carl
Koonce, R.L.
Kosta, Michael
Kottke, Dwight
Kovac, Harold
Kramer, Ed
Krasinski, Jerzy
Krok, Peter
Krueger, Grant
Kunkel, Fred
Kuntz, Paul
Kyle, Fergus
Lahey, Jim
Laird, Dave
Laishes, Jeff
Lally, Sean
Lalonde, Bart
Landucci, Larry
Lannon, W.
Lasecki, Robert
Laurie, Kip
Laverty, Charles
Lavigne, Pat
Lawliss, James
Lawrence, Derek
Lawton, John
Ledbetter, Gene
Ledoux, Paul
Lee, Terrence
Lefler, Fabian
Lekven, Carl
Lemen, Ted
Lenton, Dennis
Leonard, Nicolas
Leslie, George
Lewis, Terry
Lewis, Tim
Licking, Larry
Lifer, Craig
Liming, Gary
Linebaugh, Jeff
Linse, Michael
Lloyd, Brian
Long, Charles
Long, Eugene
Long, Patrick
Loubert, Gary
Mack, Don
Mackay, Alex
Madden, Peter
Magsam, Del
Mahr, Egon
Mains, Ralph
Malich, Gunter
Markle, Jim
Markwell, Cleone
Marshall, F.R.
Marshall, Nigel
Marson, Thomas
Martin, Bryan
Martin, Clifford
Martin, Richard
Mason, Ron
Matteson, Robert
Maxson, Phillip
Maynor, Troy
Mcallister, Paul
Mcbride, Duncan
Mccallister, Donald
Mccallum, Bob
Mccutchan, Bruce
Mcfarland, Larry
Mcfarland, Randy
Mcfarlane, Lloyd
Mcgregor, Bruce
Mcintosh, Wayne
Mcintyre, Jay
Mckervey, Joseph
Mcleod, Neil
Mcmanus, Jim
Medeiros, Joel
Meehan, Don
Mekeel, DonaldE
Melenyzer, Charles IV
Merchant, Dean
Merrill, Dj
Messinger, Paul
Meyette, Brian
Michel, Riazuelo
Miller, David
Miller, Mark
Miller, Robert
Miller, Warren
Mills, Moe
Mills, William
Milner, Gregory
Milner, Red
Mineart, Stephen
Mitchell, HD
Moak, Ken
Montagne, Raymond
Montgomery, Dale
Moore, David
Moore, Glenn
Moore, Marbert
Moore, Warren
Morawski, Brett
Morelli, William
Morin, Mauri
Morrison, Douglas
Morrison, Malcolm
Morrow, Dan
Mosher, Doc
Mosier, Colby
Mrotzek, Dan
Muegge, James
Murphy, George
Murray, Ronald
Murrill, Robert
Myers, John
Myhra, Donald
Nascimento, Marcio
Nash, Simon
Neilsen, Richard
Nelson, William
Nicely, Vincent
Nickless, Jim
Nickson, Dennis
Nolan, Jim
North, Wheeler
Noyer, Robert
Nyman, Stephen
O'Brien, Dan
O'Donnell, David
O'Reilly, Colm
Oberst, James
Oconnor, Edward
Ohlinger, Judith
Ohlinger, Mark & Judy
Okeefe, Lawrence
Oldford, David
Olendorf, James
Orear, Jeff
Otaola, Ricardo
Ouellette, Will
Overall, Dana
Owens, Duane
Owens, Phil
Packard, Tom
Parker, Dennis
Parks, Dann
Partyka, LeeM
Patsey, Kevin
Patterson, Ron
Payne, Craig
Payne, Ron
Pelletier, Dave
Perez, M. Domenic
Perkins, Stan
Perry, John
Petaccia, Ettore
Peterson, Alex
Peterson, David
Peterson, Paul
Petri, David
Pettey, Don
Petty, Paul
Pflimlin, Paul
Pfundt, Jan
Phillips, Mark
Phillips, Russell
Pierce, Tony
Pike, Richard
Pilling, Kevin
Pinkston, Gordon
Plecenik, Michael
Pocock, Graham
Point, Jeff
Porter, Richard
Potter, Lee
Powell, Jim
Powell, Ken
Preston, Douglas
Pritchard, Roger
Proctor, Joe
Puckett, Greg
Puglise, James
Rabaut, Charles
Raby, Ron
Randolph, George
Ray, Rick
Ray, Rob
Reading, Thomas Sr
Red Dragon Aviation
Reeck, Kris And Art
Reel, David
Reese, Wayne
Reeves, William
Reimer, Curt
Render, James
Repucci, William
Reuschle, Jeffrey
Reusser, Hans-Peter
Reynolds, Richard
Rice, James
Richards, Stephen
Richardson, Colin
Richardson, Scott
Richter, Randall
Rickard, Ian
Rickman, Loy
Rigby, David
Riley, Stuart
Ringrose, Andrew
Robert, Nuckolls
Roberts, Gary
Roberts, Jeffrey
Roberts, John
Rodebush, James
Rodriguez, Paul
Roehr, Mike
Romine, Chris
Ross, Chris
Ross, William
Rourke, John
Rozendaal, Doug
Russell, E.Frank
Russell, Jack
Russell, Keith
Ryan, Mike
Sa, Carlos
Saffold, Michael
Sager, Truman
Salter, Phillip
Sanders, Andrew
Sapp, Doug
Sargent, Thomas
Satterlee, Robert
Sax, Samuel
Schaefer, Steven
Schertz, William
Schieber, Cedrdic
Schilling, Karl
Schlafly, Fred
Schlatterer, Bill
Schmidt, Gregory
Schmidt, John & Patty
Schneider, Werner
Schnitzlein, C.E.
Schoenberger, H.Robert
Schrimmer, Mark
Schroeder, Fire
Schroeder, John
Schumacher, Roger
Scott, James
Scott, Troy
Scroggs, Ross
Seaford, Jack
Seal, John
Selby, Jim, Sr. & Jr.
Selinger, Carsten
Selix, Richard
Setser, David
Settlemyer, Art
Shank, William
Shaw, Cliff
Shepherd, Dallas
Shepherd, Stanislaus
Shipley, Rob
Shipley, Walt
Shipp, Garry
Shumaker, Robert
Siegfried, Bob
Sigmon, Harvey
Silvanic, Ed
Simmons, Kendall
Simpkins, Shaun
Simpson, Randy
Sinclair, Michael
Sipp, Richard
Skelly, Brian
Sletten, Mark
Sloan, Alex
Smith, Danny L
Smith, David
Smith, Edmond
Smith, Gene
Smith, Kirk
Smith, Lloyd
Smith, Rodney
Smith, Ronald
Smith, Simon
Snedaker, Robert
Sobel, Martin
Solecki, John
Sorensen, Kent
Sorensen, Lance
Spainhower, Craig
Sparks, Timothy
Spence, Stephen
Spencer, Russell
Springer, Jerry
Staley, Dick
Starn, John H. "kabong"
Stewart, Michael
Stewart, Paul
Stewart, Shannon
Stone, Christopher
Stout, Randall
Strawn, David
Strong, Gary
Strong, Tom
Stuart, Clay
Sutterfield, Stan
Swaney, Mark
Swanson, Ronald
Swartzendruber, David
Sweeney, Timothy
Swinford, George
Szantho, JohnB.
Szarafinski, Roy
Szentmiklosi, Mark
Tarmar, Brian
Tasker, Richard
Textor, Jack
Thesee, Gilles
Thomas, Bruce
Thomas, Gummo
Thomas, Lee
Thomason, Michael
Thompson, Scott
Thomure, Randall
Thwing, Randy
Titcomb, Edward
Tomlin, Thomas
Tower, John
Tracy, Roger
Trainer, Dave
Trombley, Erich
Trost, Sebastian
Trumpfheller, Bob
Tuton, Beauford
Twigg, Alan
Tyler, George
Unruh, Brian
Unternaehrer, Rolf
Utter, Bob
Van Winkle, Dean
VanHeeswijk, Jack
VanHeuveln, Lemar
VanSchoonhoven, Peter
Vanartsdalen, Scott
Vandenbroek, Martin
Vangrunsven, Stan
Vaughan, Cye
Vaughn, John
Verdev, Victor
Vervoort-Woestenburg, Jef
Vincent, Bill
Vogt, Gary
VonRuden, Dennis
Vormbaum, John
Voss, Richard
Vranken, Karel
Wagoner, Richard
Waldal, Art B.
Walker, Dale
Walker, Tommy
Walker, Weston
Walrath, Howard
Walsh, Denis
Ward, Timothy
Washburn, Oliver
Watson, Richard
Watson, Terrence
Watters, Daniel
Weaver, Erich
Weaver, Fred
Webb, Randol
Weber, Edward
Webster, Tom
Weese, Brian
Weiler, Douglas
Whelan, Thomas
Whiteley, Kenneth
Whiteside, Eric
Whittier, Lavoy (aka Bucky)
Wigney, John
Wiley, Robert
Williams , John
Williams, Hildred
Williams, Jeff
Williams, Lawrence
Williams, Terry
Williamson, John
Willig, Louis
Wilson, Christopher
Wilson, Kelly
Wimmer, Thomas
Wingard, David
Winings, James
Winne, Edward
Woboril, David
Wood, Frank
Wood, Larry
Woods, Donald
Woods, Harold
Wright, Roy
Wsiaki, Michael
Wymer, Jerry
Yager, Jack
Yamokoski, William
Young, Rollin
Zaric, Radomir
Zheng, Andrew
Zilik, Gary
Zinkham, Ralph
Zollinger, Duane
Zuniga, Oscar
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
Drew, I am pleased to hear that your 50 is beating expectations.
The book figure for cross wing limit is low I believe due to the UC design strength
for side loads. I personally think the limit was one that allowed you to
land with 5kts of "drift" i.e. no runway heading correction at all when rounding
out.
Rest assured that the a/c can take more than 5 kts, I have been flying the 50 for
10 years now and assure you that many of my landings have been at 15-20 kts
of wind. In fact some have run out of rudder including take offs!! ops.
The tail locking design is for good reason. It keeps the a/c straight in a cross
wind!! There are several reasons why I would not go manual, one being higher
work load and one day for sure you will forget lock when landing. (not serious
usually but one day in a wind it will be!!)
The YAK 50 is quite heavy at the tail in flight configuration and you need a lot
of power on the brakes to lift the tail so don't worry about relaxing stick
to neutral to turn when taxing. Adjust the lock to release at neutral or with
a little back stick is my advise.
Cheers, mark
BTW, we have a strong spar YAK 50 for sale at present. Exceptional condition and
always loved!! only 12 hrs in Russia the rest in the UK. approx 270 hrs TTSN
now.
--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Eginton <deginton@marketswitch.com>
I have about 30 hours on my new Yak 50. It exceeds my expectations in most
respects.
I have only two design beefs:
a. crosswind component is too low. Obviously, there's not much one can do
about that except do the arithmetic before attempting to land, and have
enough gas to try the next field.
b. auto-locking tailwheel. This presumes conditions we don't have, I
guess: square grass patch landing fields, or multiple runway
aerodromes. (Evidently Yakovlev figured that only a dope would land a
tailwheel plane crosswind.)
I don't like to sacrifice one control axis, just to (alternately) deflect
the elevator or turn the plane while on the ground.
Has anyone re-rigged the tailwheel lock to be manual?
Thanks.
--drew
Yak-50 N150YK
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Oliver Neufert <oliver.neufert@wanadoo.fr>
Just to add to this, Magellan did exactly the opposite to me: I have
purchased a GPS from them in 1998 which has never really worked (only 50%
of the time, can't find the satellites, and sually when you actually need
them) and finally last year I enquired to get it serviced. After several
telephone calls and e-mails fo about one month, here's the answer: "too
old, no service available, sorry".
Basically they told be to go F--- Off and throw the thing away.
In all the industries I have worked for, service and parts MUST be
available for 10 years.
To semi-quote Drew: "I can't remember when I was treated so bad by a mass
marketer. I would
just like not to commend them publicly, and perhaps they'll be rewarded
with a few sales less!"
regards,
Oliver
At 03:24 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Eginton <deginton@marketswitch.com>
>
>
>Garmin did something I rarely experience today: they stood behind the
>product, invested in their relationship with me, made the experience
>pleasant and well worth repeating. No, my girlfriend is not named
>Garmin. I mean the avionics vendor.
>
>I have their stuff in my Yak-50 and a gross surfeit of their stuff in my
>turbo Viking. The GDL-49 satcom receiver in the Viking has never captured
>and maintained a com link long enough to transmit anything consistently,
>much less the large Nexrad image files. The Orbcomm network, designed for
>telemetry and very low bit rate apps, seems grossly underpowered for this
>application. Then I read that in the new G1000 series that Garmin is using
>the much higher-powered, geostationary satellite operated by XM. (If
>memory from my satellite days is correct, they are using a big Hughes 601
>bus spacecraft that was originally designed for black work in the
>1980's.) Red alert: product about to be orphaned by better, more robust
>network!
>
>I called Garmin to explain my concerns. They're buying back the GDL-49,
>offering comp on the shop labor, and man, were they decent about it. I
>won't even bother checking out other vendors for (certified) avionics, if
>they are going to treat people this way. There's simply no point in
>experimenting with another vendor if one can be treated as well as I was
>treated today.
>
>I can't remember when I was treated so well by a mass marketer. I would
>just like to commend them publicly, and perhaps they'll be rewarded with an
>additional sale or two.
>
>--drew eginton
>
>Yak-50 N150YK
>Bellanca 17-31ATC N777ML
>
>
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| Subject: | PSP clinic update |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Hi gang,
I just got word from the Palm Springs Air Museum confirming their desire
to host our event the last weekend in February (27-29). Apparently the
Blue Forces are concerned because they are bringing in heavy iron for
security (5-6 P51's will be flying there as well!).
The tentative schedule outline is:
Thurs. 25th - afternoon arrivals
Fri 26th - AM arrivals. Tactical Formation Ground school starts at 1
p.m. Introductory Tac Form hop. Day will end with an Intro to ACM
brief.
Sat. 27th. - ACM brief and hops in AM. Introduction to Low Level
navigation (when we say Low Level, we're talking a 1000'-500' hard
deck...not in the weeds!) and Low Level flights in afternoon. Day ends
with a BBQ and Intro to Air War Sim brief.
Sun. 28th. - Air War Sim brief and simulation in AM. Lunch and launch
for home...
This is obviously a new arena for sport aviation on an organized level.
Reading it a glance may conjure up images of Zeros splashing into the
sea, P-47's strafing trains at 20 feet, and all sorts of chaos. I
assure you that this is a very controlled environment where the primary
concern is safety. Experienced ex-military guys in the community are
there to enhance safety, learning, and enjoyment of what should be some
of the most exhilarating flying since entering an uncontrolled traffic
pattern on a Saturday afternoon!
Hotel arrangements are in the process of being made and I will post
those as soon as they become available. Updated information, and
hopefully downloads will be made available at www.allredstar.com.
Have a great weekend!
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Director of Operations
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Dear Drew
Yak-50 Crosswind
Saw your posting.
The crosswind limit is not the limit that the plane will take. It is the limit
for landing without correction by the pilot.
Ultimately you will run out of rudder authority, but certainly 15-knots direct
crosswind is possible.
Cant see the problem with the locking tail-wheel - apart from the complexity of
the mechanism and the problems it can cause if not maintained, I believe it works
well, and no need to change.
Best regards
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Newport House
Almeley
Herefordshire
HR3 6LL
United Kingdom
Tel: 44 (0) 1544 322200
Mob: 44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: 44 (0) 1544 322208
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| Subject: | Yak 50 crosswinds |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dean Courtney" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
Yak 50 book x-wind limit is definitely NOT an aerodynamic limit. I would pay
close attention to not side loading the gear a great deal. The gear legs are
plenty strong, but the attach structure is light weight, and the moment arm
of those long legs compounds it, so keep her straight. You have big
aerobatic control surfaces. Use them!
Tail wheel lock o the stick? T-6, P-51 use the same system. Folks have
converted it here in the USA, I can think of 2 aircraft. I suppose it is the
same as converting to Hydraulic brakes, personal like/dislike. Do be sure
that you have the lock rigged to your liking (ie at what point in the stick
travel it engages/disengages) some are hap-hazardly rigged, and take a full
forward stick to disengage, it is a simple system as is, so maybe a little
rigging/attention to detail will be all yours needs.
Keep an eye on the rivets that mount the tail wheel to the fuse. the tail
wheel also has a fairly long moment arm, and if you forget about the tail
wheel lock, and use the brakes to force a turn. These rivets will quickly
loosen, and your ground handling will get loose as well!
Enjoy the 50! They are one of a kind!
Dean Courtney
Yak 50-84-2805
Yak 52-82-2715
deancourtney696@hotmail.com
205-405-0701
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| Subject: | Wilga Parts needed |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Genzlinger, Reade" <ReadeG@Cairnwood.com>
Robert:
The Fiat connection may be true - the air filters are a Fiat part (Fiat No:
4371574) and I bought them from an internet supplier for about $7.00 each!
They're used in a 124.
My contact at PZL was Ziggy Wasiucionec ( Wladyslaw Skorski
[skorski@pzl-okecie.com.pl]). The English is a little rough but the parts
showed up about 30 after placing the order.
Reade Genzlinger
Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation
215.914.0370
215.790.6212 fax
readeg@cairnwood.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Starnes [mailto:a35plt@yahoo.com]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Wilga Parts needed
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
What I need at the moment is brake pads, these are
hydraulic disc type pads. Somebody told me they are
old fiat car pads... anyway need 4 pads if you have
them. - Robert Starnes
--- "Genzlinger, Reade" <ReadeG@Cairnwood.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Genzlinger, Reade"
> <ReadeG@Cairnwood.com>
>
> Robert:
>
> I have 104-80 and have dealt directly with the
> factory for a few items.
> Contact me off line.
>
> Reade Genzlinger
> Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation
> 215.914.0370
> 215.790.6212 fax
> readeg@cairnwood.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Starnes [mailto:a35plt@yahoo.com]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Wilga Parts needed
>
>
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> --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes
> <a35plt@yahoo.com>
>
> Doing an annual on a PZL 104 Wilga 80, Anybody out
> there have a good reliable source for wilga parts,
> Especially consumables such as brake pads, exhaust
> stuff ? Most of it's the same as CJ stuff, Doug Sapp
> will be getting a call soon!
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| Subject: | Yak 18T avionics |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
Is there any web-able documentation on the std russian avionics on a Yak 18T?
Bruce Campbell
YAK 52 N82623
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| Subject: | SE formation clinic |
MDSHELLEY@aol.com, yakjock@msn.com, walterfricke@yahoo.com,
finleycj6@juno.com, dabear@damned.org, TCalloway@hangar-d.com,
mason.t@worldnet.att.net, wpairprt@tdstelme.net, radialpower@cox.net,
FamilyGage@aol.com, rvfltd@televar.com, cd001633@mindspring.com,
ernest.martinez@oracle.com, FOUGAPILOT@aol.com, N23GD@yahoo.com,
jtobul@tobul.com, KILOUSMC@aol.com
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Troops,
Putting out a call for flight leads and wing rated formation pilots who will
be willing to ride in the back seat of "FNG" for possible formation clinic.
Area of operation will be south central Georgia on or around mid January.
Number of these intrepid airmen will determine number of FNGs accepted.
Although this is in the planning stage as a RPA (RedStar Pilots Association)
clinic, we an't picky. Any FAST signatory pilot may happily drink with us and
cross breeding is good for the race.
Please respond off list. You FNGs standby.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Re: less extraordinary customer service |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
I will try to give the Reader's Digest version, sorry.
Magellan screwed me to the max. I bought their 5000 unit with WRITTEN
IFR up gradable by...I forget the date now. This, of course, played
heavily in my choice of G.P.S. units. I bought 2 with their written
assurance... Needless to say not only did they never do the R&D to
Certify the unit - they discontinued manufacture of the unit! In
registered letters, phone calls, faxes, ad nauseam to Magellan to
address the problem and to come up with some kind of
solution/compensation for their "bait and switch" tactics, I was told to
F...off.
I thought, and I told them that anything they could do to soften the
blow would be appreciated. Nothing. Since they don't make an IFR unit
and I had to purchase others new and get rid of the Magellan. I figured
that to offer me one of their handhelds to help compensate for their
contractual failure and to preserve some kind of good will would be
reasonable. But no, nothing ever.
OK, so the Reader's Digest version thing didn't work out.
Respectfully, Rick B
>>> oliver.neufert@wanadoo.fr 12/4/2003 1:50:46 AM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: Oliver Neufert
<oliver.neufert@wanadoo.fr>
Just to add to this, Magellan did exactly the opposite to me: I have
purchased a GPS from them in 1998 which has never really worked (only
50%
of the time, can't find the satellites, and sually when you actually
need
them) and finally last year I enquired to get it serviced. After
several
telephone calls and e-mails fo about one month, here's the answer: "too
old, no service available, sorry".
Basically they told be to go F--- Off and throw the thing away.
In all the industries I have worked for, service and parts MUST be
available for 10 years.
To semi-quote Drew: "I can't remember when I was treated so bad by a
mass
marketer. I would
just like not to commend them publicly, and perhaps they'll be rewarded
with a few sales less!"
regards,
Oliver
At 03:24 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Eginton
<deginton@marketswitch.com>
>
>
>Garmin did something I rarely experience today: they stood behind the
>product, invested in their relationship with me, made the experience
>pleasant and well worth repeating. No, my girlfriend is not named
>Garmin. I mean the avionics vendor.
>
>I have their stuff in my Yak-50 and a gross surfeit of their stuff in
my
>turbo Viking. The GDL-49 satcom receiver in the Viking has never
captured
>and maintained a com link long enough to transmit anything
consistently,
>much less the large Nexrad image files. The Orbcomm network, designed
for
>telemetry and very low bit rate apps, seems grossly underpowered for
this
>application. Then I read that in the new G1000 series that Garmin is
using
>the much higher-powered, geostationary satellite operated by XM. (If
>memory from my satellite days is correct, they are using a big Hughes
601
>bus spacecraft that was originally designed for black work in the
>1980's.) Red alert: product about to be orphaned by better, more
robust
>network!
>
>I called Garmin to explain my concerns. They're buying back the
GDL-49,
>offering comp on the shop labor, and man, were they decent about it.
I
>won't even bother checking out other vendors for (certified) avionics,
if
>they are going to treat people this way. There's simply no point in
>experimenting with another vendor if one can be treated as well as I
was
>treated today.
>
>I can't remember when I was treated so well by a mass marketer. I
would
>just like to commend them publicly, and perhaps they'll be rewarded
with an
>additional sale or two.
>
>--drew eginton
>
>Yak-50 N150YK
>Bellanca 17-31ATC N777ML
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
Folks,
I received several volunteers for the new U.S. Regional Coordinator (RC) positions
and will send out a notice on who these individuals are, and what it is they
will be doing. I will also be sending out a notice for the 2004 Event Directors
for SnF, Osh, ARS and all clinisc/events planned.
If you are of the creative type and have are familiar, on any level, with web
software such as Dreamweaver of MS Frontpage, the new RPA website opening soon
could use content managers. This is a low-time volunteer position that you can
perform from the comfort of your home when you have free time. You will NOT
be building web pages or getting deeply in design code at all (unless you want
to get really creative), but simply accessing the RPA server to manage the
content uploaded by members, or things you and others feel would be of interest
to the members.
Below is an example list. The first three require no web experience whatsoever,
the fourth requires only a basic understadning of web design, mostly nothing
more than cut and paste!
1. Weekly polls Manager - An administrator driven polling software - as the administrator
you set the question of the week/month
2. Online calendar Manager - An administrator managed online calendar - Just click-to-approve/delete
a member submitted event
3. Discussion Manager - An Administror managed online duscussion board - click-to
delete/clean up old discussion trees in seconds
4. Check the "member content" file on the server and place submitted content (articles,
etc.) in the web site. Content is uploaded with an identification tag
selected by the member uploading the content (formation, safety, maintenaince,
etc.) so there is no guess work on where it should go. Cutting and pasting
an article submitted in MS Word in to the appropriate web page takes only a few
minutes.
The RPA will supply you with software as required. There's really no limit to the
number of content managers, so if you are interested in adding to the creative
side of the RPA please e-mail me off list!
Drew
Drew Blahnick
RedStar Pilots Assoc.
310.872.0754
"Communism: Lousy Politics-Excellent Airplanes"
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| Subject: | SE formation clinic |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
What is FNG??
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
gaf127enl@msn.com; MDSHELLEY@aol.com; yakjock@msn.com;
walterfricke@yahoo.com; finleycj6@juno.com; dabear@damned.org;
TCalloway@hangar-d.com; mason.t@worldnet.att.net; wpairprt@tdstelme.net;
radialpower@cox.net; FamilyGage@aol.com; rvfltd@televar.com;
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N23GD@yahoo.com; jtobul@tobul.com; KILOUSMC@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: SE formation clinic
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Troops,
Putting out a call for flight leads and wing rated formation pilots who
will
be willing to ride in the back seat of "FNG" for possible formation
clinic.
Area of operation will be south central Georgia on or around mid
January.
Number of these intrepid airmen will determine number of FNGs accepted.
Although this is in the planning stage as a RPA (RedStar Pilots
Association)
clinic, we an't picky. Any FAST signatory pilot may happily drink with
us and
cross breeding is good for the race.
Please respond off list. You FNGs standby.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
=
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==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: SE formation clinic |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 12/4/2003 8:56:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ernest.martinez@oracle.com writes:
What is FNG??
Ernie
Is your tong in your cheek or are you a "FNG'? OK, for those who don't know
better. FNG stands for "Formation New Guy" or feminine gender "Formation New
Gal". Of course if you are a gross in your manners or have a real military
back ground, (US Army) it means "F__king New Guy". Of course this is not PC.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Re: SE formation clinic |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ronald Kalemba <emu21@sbcglobal.net>
Hey Walt Fricke. Do you remember many ,many years ago when we were FNG's?
I do. Not a pleasant memory.
Ron Kalemba
cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 12/4/2003 8:56:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ernest.martinez@oracle.com writes:
What is FNG??
Ernie
Is your tong in your cheek or are you a "FNG'? OK, for those who don't know
better. FNG stands for "Formation New Guy" or feminine gender "Formation New
Gal". Of course if you are a gross in your manners or have a real military
back ground, (US Army) it means "F__king New Guy". Of course this is not PC.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | SE formation clinic |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
:) This would mean you are one.
Yak2
>>> ernest.martinez@oracle.com 12/4/2003 7:55:32 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <
ernest.martinez@oracle.com >
What is FNG??
Ernie
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