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1. 12:43 AM - static line (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
2. 05:07 AM - YAK 52 FOD Prevention Cover (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 07:22 AM - Re: Utah Yak-52 Crash, NTSB final report (Bob Fitzpatrick)
4. 10:22 AM - Stuff on eBay (czechsix@juno.com)
5. 02:31 PM - help this man!! (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
6. 02:54 PM - Re: help this man!! (Brian Lloyd)
7. 03:16 PM - True Colors (cpayne@joimail.com)
8. 03:49 PM - Re: help this man!! (Greg Arnold)
9. 04:03 PM - Re: True Colors (ANDREWS)
10. 04:20 PM - Re: help this man!! (Brian Lloyd)
11. 04:24 PM - Re: help this man!! (Jorgen Nielsen)
12. 04:39 PM - Re: True Colors (David Stroud)
13. 05:00 PM - Re: help this man!! (Jim Ivey)
14. 05:14 PM - Re: True Colors (Doug Sapp)
15. 05:23 PM - Re: help this man!! (Frank Haertlein)
16. 05:55 PM - Re: help this man!! (Ron Davis)
17. 06:38 PM - Re: help this man!! (V35B)
18. 07:06 PM - Re: help this man!! (Greg Arnold)
19. 07:15 PM - Re: help this man!! (Robert Starnes)
20. 07:20 PM - Re: help this man!! (Robert Starnes)
21. 08:11 PM - Re: help this man!! (BUTLER, FRANCIS)
22. 08:15 PM - Re: help this man!! (RV_8 Pilot)
23. 11:21 PM - Re: help this man!! (KevLCo@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
we once had an ASI going in reverse, it was a pipe crimped/ bent behind the front
panel.
regards,, mark J
YAK UK.
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| Subject: | YAK 52 FOD Prevention Cover |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
YAK 52 Owners,
The FOD Prevention Cover design has been finalized and the first 25 FOD
Prevention Cover kits are now in manufacturing and will be available in a
few days. The price for the product is $100, plus shipping. The kit
will include all materials and instructions necessary to affect a proper
installation. Installation time is quite minimal. Once installed, the FOD
Prevention Cover is easily removed in less than one minute for access to the
rearward most compartment for inspections. If you have not seen this
accident report
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafety_024587.hcsp,
take a look and pay particular attention to Figure 2.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/graphic/dft_avsafety_024587-2.jpg
If the FOD Prevention Cover would have been in place on this aircraft, it
most likely could have prevented this accident.
If you are interested in ordering a FOD Prevention Cover kit, please email
me off-list at adsavar@gte.net or telephone me directly and I will provide
ordering instructions and any additional information you require.
Fly safe and happy holidays,
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-2141 office
334-546-8182 cell
www.yak-52.com
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-2141 office
334-546-8182 cell
www.yak-52.com
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| Subject: | Re: Utah Yak-52 Crash, NTSB final report |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
re. Bellcrank shields
Somehow i missed the announcement of these devices and can't find them in
archives. Would you gentlemen please review what you have available? TIA.
bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Utah Yak-52 Crash, NTSB final report
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Tom Johnson,
> Any chance of a significant deduction in insurance if we retrofit the
> bellcrank shield devices designed by Marke Jefferies and Dennis Savernase
?
>
> This accident scenario counts for 5 instances that I know about and
> protection is better than an NTSB report any day.
>
> As you warned the group these aircraft types are being looked at closely
> this year and I for one am fitting a shield and a perspex inspection hatch
> in the tail cone ( I will post a pattern to the list for those interested
in
> the pattern.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> MFilucci@aol.com
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Utah Yak-52 Crash, NTSB final report
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
>
> http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20030124X00102&key=1
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com
Guys,
I have a few things on eBay if anyone's interested. If the link doesn't work just
search on the item number. If you have questions please contact me OFF LIST.
Thanks and Do Not Archive!
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D finishing....
Turn Coordinator, item #2447588004
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447588004
Andair Mini Gascolator, item #2447590842
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447590842
Bendix Mags, item #2447592770
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447592770
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
This man needs help, he's force landed in the Antarctica and USA + NZ wont give
him any fuel...read all at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3306443.stm
Best regards
Mark Jefferies
: Managing director YAK UK Ltd
Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England.
( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax
( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile
: Conditions/ terms of business
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| Subject: | Re: help this man!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
>
> This man needs help, he's force landed in the Antarctica and USA + NZ wont give
him any fuel...read all at
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3306443.stm
Makes me proud to be an American. It used to be we helped people who needed it.
Now we are the world's moral conscience.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane paint is
starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original
paint and three touch up areas I sprayed. For each paint
batch I took an original fabric sample direct from China
when I got the plane. At that time all of the external
markings were sprayed over and what was described as
"Trading Company" Green. I rubbed through to find the
original markings and replicated them.
So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
supply shop that put the fabric sample under their computer
came up with a different color. Only a hand mixed batch,
done by a crusty old timer ever matched. Does anyone have a
US color chart number I can reference? Otherwise it's US
Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
Craig Payne
So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane
paint is starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original paint and
three touch upareas I sprayed. For each paint batch I took an original
fabric sample direct from China when I got the plane. At that time all of the
external markings were sprayed over and what was described as "Trading Company"
Green. Irubbed through to find the original markings and replicated
them.
So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
supplyshop that put the fabric sample under their computer came up with a
different color. Only a hand mixed batch, done by a crusty old timer ever
matched. Does anyone have a US color chart number I can reference? Otherwise
it's US Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: help this man!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
"And we can make arrangements to ship his plane out at his cost," Mr. Sanson
said.
Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make arrangements to ship his
plane out his cost" what I wanna know is why can't he make arrangements to
give him the some fuel at his cost?...
Greg Arnold
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "ANDREWS" <dandmaz@cox.net>
Craig,
I would think you would do the honorable thing and paint it the Marine
Green .
Don Andrews
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: True Colors
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane paint is
> starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original
> paint and three touch up areas I sprayed. For each paint
> batch I took an original fabric sample direct from China
> when I got the plane. At that time all of the external
> markings were sprayed over and what was described as
> "Trading Company" Green. I rubbed through to find the
> original markings and replicated them.
>
> So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
> supply shop that put the fabric sample under their computer
> came up with a different color. Only a hand mixed batch,
> done by a crusty old timer ever matched. Does anyone have a
> US color chart number I can reference? Otherwise it's US
> Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
> Craig Payne
>
>
> So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane
> paint is starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original
paint and
> three touch upareas I sprayed. For each paint batch I took an original
> fabric sample direct from China when I got the plane. At that time all of
the
> external markings were sprayed over and what was described as "Trading
Company"
> Green. Irubbed through to find the original markings and replicated
> them.
>
>
> So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
> supplyshop that put the fabric sample under their computer came up with a
> different color. Only a hand mixed batch, done by a crusty old timer ever
> matched. Does anyone have a US color chart number I can reference?
Otherwise
> it's US Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
>
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: help this man!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Greg Arnold wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
>
> "And we can make arrangements to ship his plane out at his cost," Mr. Sanson
> said.
>
> Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make arrangements to ship his
> plane out his cost" what I wanna know is why can't he make arrangements to
> give him the some fuel at his cost?...
Silly boy! They are two *completely* different problems. Disassembling, crating,
and then shipping an airplane is *much* more sensible than pouring 100 gallons
of gas into it and letting its owner fly it away.
Hopefully these people will come to their senses.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
I read an article some time back about a South African that was flying in
the Antartic, they were being refueled from barrels of gas stored in the
snow. This they contracted a Russian company to deliver once a year or so -
anyone else read that? - it could be the fuel is there that he can use. I
remember it was very expensive, but he doesn't need that much. Don't know
whether its avgas or jet though.
But then I remembered something else...Safair fly out to Antartica as well,
so I've just emailed their marketing director the article and suggested that
there was some worldwide exposure to be had if they could help Jon out.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Jefferies
YAK UK Ltd
Subject: Yak-List: help this man!!
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
This man needs help, he's force landed in the Antarctica and USA + NZ wont
give him any fuel...read all at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3306443.stm
Best regards
Mark Jefferies
: Managing director YAK UK Ltd
Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England.
( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax
( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile
: Conditions/ terms of business
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
Don't know if this helps, Craig, but here's one colour chart..
http://www.aircrafttechsupport.com/paints.htm I used Federal 208 A Olive drab on my
Christavia. This one's a Polyfiber product. I highly recommend the services of
Dondi
and Jim Miller at Aircraft Technical Support. They work hard to keep you happy.
The colour sample you see here is not ( at least on my new screen)
exactly what it looks like in reality and when you add the
flattener, things get skewed even more. They can send a "true colour" chart directly
to you.
Dave Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia Mk 1 C-FDWS
Fairchild 51, early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: True Colors
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane paint is
> starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original
> paint and three touch up areas I sprayed. For each paint
> batch I took an original fabric sample direct from China
> when I got the plane. At that time all of the external
> markings were sprayed over and what was described as
> "Trading Company" Green. I rubbed through to find the
> original markings and replicated them.
>
> So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
> supply shop that put the fabric sample under their computer
> came up with a different color. Only a hand mixed batch,
> done by a crusty old timer ever matched. Does anyone have a
> US color chart number I can reference? Otherwise it's US
> Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
> Craig Payne
>
>
> So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane
> paint is starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original paint and
> three touch upareas I sprayed. For each paint batch I took an original
> fabric sample direct from China when I got the plane. At that time all of the
> external markings were sprayed over and what was described as "Trading Company"
> Green. Irubbed through to find the original markings and replicated
> them.
>
>
> So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
> supplyshop that put the fabric sample under their computer came up with a
> different color. Only a hand mixed batch, done by a crusty old timer ever
> matched. Does anyone have a US color chart number I can reference? Otherwise
> it's US Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
>
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
Fellows, fellows. It's all very simple. It's called CYA! If Sanson or the
American military folks allow this guy to take off and the guy doesn't make
it then they probably think there is some sort of implied liability for
facilitating his flight.
So it has nothing to do with practicality whatsoever. It doesn't matter if
it costs 100 times more to do it their way in the end a bureaucrat can
defend his job by doing the "safe" thing.
Those Aussie blokes sure have some balls, though, don't they? I appreciate
the fellow's sense of independence and adventure.
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:49 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
>
> "And we can make arrangements to ship his plane out at his
> cost," Mr. Sanson said.
>
> Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make
> arrangements to ship his plane out his cost" what I wanna
> know is why can't he make arrangements to give him the some
> fuel at his cost?...
>
> Greg Arnold
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Craig,
Your close to correct on the green color, but to make it look correct you
must apply it with a #4 barn broom on a windy dusty day. The light
refracting off the grooves and lines in the paint will add the necessary
optical effect to make it look authentic. Additional help can be obtained
by being fortunate enough to have a high silicone content in your airborne
dust, everyone knows that Gobi dust is far more desirable than Beijing dust.
I plan to leave for China in the spring (have canceled my Dec trip) If I can
bring you back any real Chinese dust, just let me know. I do plan to be
near the Gobi, so it will be the high quality stuff.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
cpayne@joimail.com
Subject: Yak-List: True Colors
--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane paint is
starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original
paint and three touch up areas I sprayed. For each paint
batch I took an original fabric sample direct from China
when I got the plane. At that time all of the external
markings were sprayed over and what was described as
"Trading Company" Green. I rubbed through to find the
original markings and replicated them.
So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
supply shop that put the fabric sample under their computer
came up with a different color. Only a hand mixed batch,
done by a crusty old timer ever matched. Does anyone have a
US color chart number I can reference? Otherwise it's US
Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
Craig Payne
So what color is the "True" CJ-6 Green? My airplane
paint is starting to look like a camo job with two shades of original paint
and
three touch upareas I sprayed. For each paint batch I took an original
fabric sample direct from China when I got the plane. At that time all of
the
external markings were sprayed over and what was described as "Trading
Company"
Green. Irubbed through to find the original markings and replicated
them.
So now, 8 years later I need a real paint job. Each paint
supplyshop that put the fabric sample under their computer came up with a
different color. Only a hand mixed batch, done by a crusty old timer ever
matched. Does anyone have a US color chart number I can reference? Otherwise
it's US Olive Drab, kinda what the underlying green looks like.
Craig Payne
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make arrangements to ship
his plane out at his cost" what I wanna know is why can't he make
arrangements to give him the some fuel at his cost?... Greg Arnold
Greg........
He said it already.......they don't want to promote tourism in the
Antarctic....
Don't you know that now everybody and their dog is going to want to fly
over the south pole? We have to keep the endless fields of wind driven
snow pristine....untouched by human hands :) HHMMMM sounds like a bunch
of bleeding heart liberals to me :)
Frank
N9110M
PS Give him the fuel fer cryin' out loud!
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| Subject: | Re: help this man!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
They spend hundreds of thosands of dollars to rescue yachters in the
antarctic sea, they should help him.
Although we should at least consider the possibility that they don't have
any gas. Nearly all military equipment is diesel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> Greg Arnold wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > "And we can make arrangements to ship his plane out at his cost," Mr.
Sanson
> > said.
> >
> > Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make arrangements to ship
his
> > plane out his cost" what I wanna know is why can't he make arrangements
to
> > give him the some fuel at his cost?...
>
> Silly boy! They are two *completely* different problems. Disassembling,
crating, and then shipping an airplane is *much* more sensible than pouring
100 gallons of gas into it and letting its owner fly it away.
>
> Hopefully these people will come to their senses.
>
> --
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
> brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
> GMT-4
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "V35B" <n1628w@hotmail.com>
What fool would launch off in a plane to such a place and not know how
he was going to get back. The man has no plan. Thank God there are
Americans there to pin the blame on!!
I vote for the plane in a crate at his expense and a ride home from the
NZ people. At least he will be protected from himself this way and his
death in the plane won't be blamed on the Americans....
Go Yanks!!
MM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Davis
Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
They spend hundreds of thosands of dollars to rescue yachters in the
antarctic sea, they should help him.
Although we should at least consider the possibility that they don't
have
any gas. Nearly all military equipment is diesel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> Greg Arnold wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold"
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> >
> > "And we can make arrangements to ship his plane out at his cost,"
Mr.
Sanson
> > said.
> >
> > Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make arrangements to
ship
his
> > plane out his cost" what I wanna know is why can't he make
arrangements
to
> > give him the some fuel at his cost?...
>
> Silly boy! They are two *completely* different problems.
Disassembling,
crating, and then shipping an airplane is *much* more sensible than
pouring
100 gallons of gas into it and letting its owner fly it away.
>
> Hopefully these people will come to their senses.
>
> --
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite
201
> brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make arrangements to ship
> his plane out at his cost" what I wanna know is why can't he make
> arrangements to give him the some fuel at his cost?... Greg Arnold
>
> Greg........
> He said it already.......they don't want to promote tourism in the
> Antarctic....
> Don't you know that now everybody and their dog is going to want to fly
> over the south pole? We have to keep the endless fields of wind driven
> snow pristine....untouched by human hands
Correction: untouched by human hands, unless those hands have first been
government sanctioned and allowed... I guess we can be thankful no
bureaucrat was present at Kitty Hawk 100 years ago..
gpa
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
After reading about the predicament of our intrepid
Ozzy aviator, I realize the man below is 100% correct.
If it got out that you could just drop in at any old
time for a spot of tea and a fillup there'd be all
kinds of nuts in their homebuilts dropping out of the
sky for free service. Mcmurdo is NOT on any FBO lists
that I have looked at.. Imagine if you had a private
strip and some guy landed out of the blue and demanded
you sell him gas just cause he needed some.... There
is a very clear message being sent here. Only excuse
the guy has is if maybe he encountered strong winds or
something preventing him from making his regular fuel
stop, who knows what the situation really is...
--- V35B <n1628w@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "V35B"
> <n1628w@hotmail.com>
>
> What fool would launch off in a plane to such a
> place and not know how
> he was going to get back. The man has no plan.
> Thank God there are
> Americans there to pin the blame on!!
>
> I vote for the plane in a crate at his expense and a
> ride home from the
> NZ people. At least he will be protected from
> himself this way and his
> death in the plane won't be blamed on the
> Americans....
>
> Go Yanks!!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Ron Davis
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis"
> <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> They spend hundreds of thosands of dollars to rescue
> yachters in the
> antarctic sea, they should help him.
>
> Although we should at least consider the possibility
> that they don't
> have
> any gas. Nearly all military equipment is diesel.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd
> <brian@lloyd.com>
> >
> > Greg Arnold wrote:
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold"
> <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > "And we can make arrangements to ship his plane
> out at his cost,"
> Mr.
> Sanson
> > > said.
> > >
> > > Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can
> "make arrangements to
> ship
> his
> > > plane out his cost" what I wanna know is why
> can't he make
> arrangements
> to
> > > give him the some fuel at his cost?...
> >
> > Silly boy! They are two *completely* different
> problems.
> Disassembling,
> crating, and then shipping an airplane is *much*
> more sensible than
> pouring
> 100 gallons of gas into it and letting its owner fly
> it away.
> >
> > Hopefully these people will come to their senses.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red
> Hook Plaza, Suite
> 201
> > brian@lloyd.com St.
> Thomas, VI 00802
> > +1.340.998.9447 - voice
> +1.360.838.9669 - fax
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
I stand corrected, He did encounter strong headwinds.
They should indeed try to help him out of there.
Wonder how long it takes the boat to sail over with a
few barrels of 100LL?
--- Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark@yakuk.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK
> UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
>
> This man needs help, he's force landed in the
> Antarctica and USA + NZ wont give him any
> fuel...read all at
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3306443.stm
>
>
> Best regards
> Mark Jefferies
>
> : Managing director YAK UK Ltd
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "BUTLER, FRANCIS" <FRANCIS_BUTLER@butler-machinery.com>
If I had to put a plane down in Antartica, I would be more than happy with a warm
bed and a ride home. He's lucky he's getting that much. If you can't afford
the result of being stupid, you should stay at home.
F.Butler
Yak 50
RV8
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Assuming you're not being sarcastic, "MM", I recommend you read the entire
article and maybe a little more on Mr Johanson. He's travelled across the
world extensively in his "little homebuilt".
It's not about anyone being concerned about the man's safety or the cost of
the fuel... It's the arrogance of the a$$e$ working on our dime down there
cataloging bacteria and lichens being more concerned about the condition of
the ice than human interests.
Bryan Jones
Pearland, Texas
>From: "V35B" <n1628w@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: help this man!!
>Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:35:58 -0500
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "V35B" <n1628w@hotmail.com>
>
>What fool would launch off in a plane to such a place and not know how
>he was going to get back. The man has no plan. Thank God there are
>Americans there to pin the blame on!!
>
>I vote for the plane in a crate at his expense and a ride home from the
>NZ people. At least he will be protected from himself this way and his
>death in the plane won't be blamed on the Americans....
>
>Go Yanks!!
>
>MM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Davis
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
>They spend hundreds of thosands of dollars to rescue yachters in the
>antarctic sea, they should help him.
>
>Although we should at least consider the possibility that they don't
>have
>any gas. Nearly all military equipment is diesel.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: help this man!!
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
> >
> > Greg Arnold wrote:
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Arnold"
><catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > "And we can make arrangements to ship his plane out at his cost,"
>Mr.
>Sanson
> > > said.
> > >
> > > Well if a government hack like Mr. Sanson can "make arrangements to
>ship
>his
> > > plane out his cost" what I wanna know is why can't he make
>arrangements
>to
> > > give him the some fuel at his cost?...
> >
> > Silly boy! They are two *completely* different problems.
>Disassembling,
>crating, and then shipping an airplane is *much* more sensible than
>pouring
>100 gallons of gas into it and letting its owner fly it away.
> >
> > Hopefully these people will come to their senses.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite
>201
> > brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> > +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
> > GMT-4
> >
> >
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: KevLCo@aol.com
How does a guy with three trips around this rock, in that little airplane,
end up in that predicament? I am amazed at his acomplishments, but further more
amazed at the gamble taken (and lost).
And besides, I'm not sure that the US military keeps stock of 100LL, or any
of it's close cousins, since the 80's. I wonder, what was the last piston
military aircraft in use?
My vote is the T-28, but that's only because I've got one in pieces on the
hangar floor.
Merry Christmas!
Kevin
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