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1. 02:31 AM - Re: Re: Gear fails to retract (Stuart Mackereth)
2. 04:42 AM - Round Radios (cpayne@joimail.com)
3. 07:48 AM - Re: Round Radios (Harry Hirschman)
4. 08:10 AM - Re: Microair Radios (Harry Hirschman)
5. 09:19 AM - Re: Round Radios (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 09:24 AM - Radio wish list (Roy O. Wright)
7. 09:45 AM - Re: other radios (was: Becker Radios and vibration?) (Jim Ivey)
8. 09:54 AM - Scale Models (Widiker, John D)
9. 10:15 AM - Re: Round Radios (Brian Lloyd)
10. 10:27 AM - Re: Round Radios (Drew Blahnick)
11. 12:38 PM - (no subject) (cjpilot710@aol.com)
12. 12:46 PM - Re: More Round Radios (cpayne@joimail.com)
13. 12:56 PM - Re: Re: More Round Radios (A. Dennis Savarese)
14. 01:51 PM - Re: (no subject) (Gus Fraser)
15. 03:02 PM - Intermittent Internet Connectivity Issues to Matronics... (Matt Dralle)
16. 04:05 PM - Military Frequent Flyer Miles Donations (KingCJ6@aol.com)
17. 04:32 PM - Re: Scale Models (Jim Selby)
18. 04:34 PM - Re: Military Frequent Flyer Miles Donations (Gus Fraser)
19. 06:23 PM - Re: (no subject) (D Zeman)
20. 06:28 PM - Re: Scale Models (p.goswick)
21. 06:43 PM - Scale Models (Frank Haertlein)
22. 07:09 PM - Re: Military Frequent Flyer Miles Donations (ByronMFox@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: Gear fails to retract |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Having actually met Mark in the UK earlier this year, I can concur :-)
Actually, other than being contentious, he can be a load of fun -
particularly behind the stick!
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Gear fails to retract
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
If you spent just five minutes with Mark you would see that other
remarkable British trait, the ability to both understand and produce
sarcasm. His mail was a very good example of this with the smiley face
added for those unable to spot the obvious intent.
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Thanks
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Gear fails to retract
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
Fellows:
Go easy on Mark and his comments on CJ's.
Its a British cultural thing that reflects a deep seated insecurity in
dealing with people who don't respect or understand the restrictions of
the rigid class/authority system that they were taught to fear when
young (ie like "fearing" God). They know intellectually that their
tendency to bow to authority in all circumstances is crazy, so the only
defense they have is to insult anybody who suggests they're wrong.
I would bet $50 that Mark is an exceptionally accommodating and polite
guy in person, that's the flip side of the same issue. Outside of his
own culture he makes himself look like a bit of an idiot.
I'm sure there are many on the Yak List who would argue his points and
even from the reference of UK operations verses the relative freedom we
have in the Colonies. Don't allow him the pleasure of his troll
remarks, leave them lie.
And in reality I believe him to be quite tongue-in-cheek observing the
emoticons at the end of each post.
Jim Ivey
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark
> Jefferies YAK UK Ltd
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:36 AM
> To: YAK USA LIST
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Gear fails to retract
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd"
> --> <mark@yakuk.com>
>
>
> Time: 10:55:33 AM PST US
>
> From: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
>
> Subject: Re: Gear fails to retract
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
>
> You could have a sticking valve, but I have found you have to be
> sure that
> you bleed off all the air completely from both systems to zero,
> I break the
> lines loose at the firewall right side upper line that goes to
> the Check
> valve, this will do the emergency side and one will do the main
> side, then
> refill the system and try it again, if it still does not work
> then you may
> have a leaking valve someplace.
> Jim
>
> The example above is where the CJ could benefit from the automatic
> leak valve being fitted as per the YAK 52. For those that don't know
> its fitted under the front seat right side on the YAK 52 and
> instrument panel right side on the YAK 50.
>
> no need to get spanners and lock wire out once fitted and no more
> aborted flights due to legs not\retracting.
>
> Just one of those upgrades that YAK invented with the later a/c !!!
> :>))
>
>
> Best regards
> Mark Jefferies
>
> : Managing director YAK UK Ltd
> Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
On the subject of Round (2-1/2") Radios, such as the Becker
4201, I notice that Aircraft Spruce sells an "XCOM 760"
radio which fits the 2-1/2" hole, monitors a 2nd frequency
just like the Apollo, and can be dialed down into the Nav
frequency range...all for a bargain price. Anyone familiar
with this radio? Seems like only Spruce carries it.
My poor old-fashioned CJ did not come with a modern Russian
radio and I need a second com to go with my King radio. Just
received a PMA4000 intercom/audio panel that will do the
switching work.
Craig Payne
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Subject: | Re: Round Radios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Harry Hirschman <hairball192@yahoo.com>
Don't know this particular radio, but wanted to put my
$.02 in for the feature that allows you to monitor a
second frequency. It's VERY nice when flying form in
the ATC environment. Next time I'm shopping for a
radio this and 20+ preset freqs will be two of my
highest priorities. Harry
--- cpayne@joimail.com wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> On the subject of Round (2-1/2") Radios, such as the
> Becker
> 4201, I notice that Aircraft Spruce sells an "XCOM
> 760"
> radio which fits the 2-1/2" hole, monitors a 2nd
> frequency
> just like the Apollo, and can be dialed down into
> the Nav
> frequency range...all for a bargain price. Anyone
> familiar
> with this radio? Seems like only Spruce carries it.
>
> My poor old-fashioned CJ did not come with a modern
> Russian
> radio and I need a second com to go with my King
> radio. Just
> received a PMA4000 intercom/audio panel that will do
> the
> switching work.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Microair Radios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Harry Hirschman <hairball192@yahoo.com>
I've got a MicroAir 760 in my E-3. I've been very
happy with it and with the austrailian parent company.
I had to send it back to them for a repair after it
was well out of warranty. I had diagnosed the problem
stateside and they decided it shouldn't have happened
at any time and sent me a replacement radio free of
charge without making me wait for them to see the
original unit first.
Some would say that having trouble with it in the
first place indicates a problem but I disagree. We
all are accustomed to very high quality and desire
that we experience no trouble with our electronics.
But I believe that all things mechanical and
electrical will eventually fail so the company behind
them matters. Beckers are easier to get serviced in
the US, no doubt. MicroAir is working to get repair
facilities up and running here but they don't have 'em
yet.
I was very pleased with the integrity of the folks
back at MicroAir HQ and am happy to report that they
stood behind their product when they could have easily
hidden behind the "out of warranty" shield. Haven't
had any trouble with the unit since.
Harry
--- Frank Haertlein <yak52driver@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Yaksters
> About two weeks ago I sent in my Microair 760 radio
> for repair. The
> display stopped working so I couldn't see what freq
> I was on. It still
> transmitted and received.
> I've been using it over a year without a problem
> till now. From what I'm
> reading and my own experience maybe the Becker is
> the way to go.
> Frank
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Subject: | Re: Round Radios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Looks like an excellent alternative Craig. Was just on their web site,
http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/build1509/main-page.html, and unfortunately
the radio is not shipping until Q1-2004. I'm seriously going to consider
installing one because of the standby freq. monitoring feature you mentioned
plus the built in voice activated intercom. I just wish it were 24/28V so
we don't have to install another voltage converter.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Round Radios
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> On the subject of Round (2-1/2") Radios, such as the Becker
> 4201, I notice that Aircraft Spruce sells an "XCOM 760"
> radio which fits the 2-1/2" hole, monitors a 2nd frequency
> just like the Apollo, and can be dialed down into the Nav
> frequency range...all for a bargain price. Anyone familiar
> with this radio? Seems like only Spruce carries it.
>
> My poor old-fashioned CJ did not come with a modern Russian
> radio and I need a second com to go with my King radio. Just
> received a PMA4000 intercom/audio panel that will do the
> switching work.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roy O. Wright" <roy@wright.org>
One of the hardest flying tasks that I've discovered
is changing frequencies while bouncing around. So
what I want to see in a radio is voice recognition.
Shouldn't be too major of a task, we have a very
limited vocabulary and good mics. Imagine reading
back the next frequency to ATC and then having
the freq appear in the stand-by.
The SL line of radios are very nice. The only problem
I've had is on a very congested tower freq (ADS), the
standard 10W radios won out to the SL's 8W.
On the monitor a second freq, I use that all the time
for ATIS/AWOS/121.5. Very nice! Occasionally when
ATC is really congested and I really need ATIS, I still
have to bring up the second COMM, but the majority of
the time, monitor is good enough.
Happy Holidays!
Roy
At 09:48 AM 12/23/2003, Harry Hirschman wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Harry Hirschman <hairball192@yahoo.com>
>
>Don't know this particular radio, but wanted to put my
>$.02 in for the feature that allows you to monitor a
>second frequency. It's VERY nice when flying form in
>the ATC environment. Next time I'm shopping for a
>radio this and 20+ preset freqs will be two of my
>highest priorities. Harry
',,'',,'',,',,'
Roy Wright 512.378.1234 mailto:royw@cisco.com
Cisco Systems import com.cisco.std-disclaimer
"Experience is the thing you get the moment after you needed to have it."
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Subject: | other radios (was: Becker Radios and vibration?) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
Here here on the Apollos. Could not agree more with Brian's comments. They
are simply outstanding performers with unparalleled functionality. And this
is coming from a former die-hard King guy.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@eds.com>
I built a 1/72nd Yak52 last night, turned out very nice, but it's awfully
small. Does anyone know where I might obtain any other kits of the 52 in
other scale? Also I hope all have a wonderful and safe holiday.
~John
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Subject: | Re: Round Radios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Harry Hirschman wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Harry Hirschman <hairball192@yahoo.com>
>
> Don't know this particular radio, but wanted to put my
> $.02 in for the feature that allows you to monitor a
> second frequency. It's VERY nice when flying form in
> the ATC environment. Next time I'm shopping for a
> radio this and 20+ preset freqs will be two of my
> highest priorities. Harry
I have never found frequency presets to be of particular use since ATC has a habit
of changing them. Selecting a frequency from a preset is not that much easier
than just dialing the new frequency into the radio. I have had a couple
of radios with this feature and I just quit trying to use it.
However, the second-frequency-monitor function is a godsend.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
GMT-4
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Subject: | Re: Round Radios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
Folks,
Although I don't promote music over the more import chatter of ATC and
traffic, there are times when it's made a long dull straight and level on a
seat pack more bearable:
The PS Engineering CD player/Audio panel worked well with some skipping
under G load, MP3 would be better:
Anyone know of a comm/audio panel or other solution w/MP3 mic input port?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Round Radios
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> Harry Hirschman wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Harry Hirschman <hairball192@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Don't know this particular radio, but wanted to put my
> > $.02 in for the feature that allows you to monitor a
> > second frequency. It's VERY nice when flying form in
> > the ATC environment. Next time I'm shopping for a
> > radio this and 20+ preset freqs will be two of my
> > highest priorities. Harry
>
> I have never found frequency presets to be of particular use since ATC has
a habit of changing them. Selecting a frequency from a preset is not that
much easier than just dialing the new frequency into the radio. I have had
a couple of radios with this feature and I just quit trying to use it.
>
> However, the second-frequency-monitor function is a godsend.
>
>
> --
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201
> brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax
> GMT-4
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Here I sit freezing my a_s off in Delaware, two days before Christmas with a
rotten cold I pick up from my grand kids. Pull my self from my sick bed.
Sign on for my e-mail and find the most profanity printed on these very pages.
THE CJ-6 IS NOT A COPY OF THE YAK. MUST WE SEND PEOPLE BACK TO AIRCRAFT
DESIGN SCHOOL?
GOD HELP US! THE NEW YEAR IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLE - I JUST KNOW IT.
HELL! I THINK I'LL GO BACK TO MY SICK BED.
MERRY CHRISTMAS !! BAW HUMBUG :>\
JIM GOOLSBY
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Subject: | Re: More Round Radios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
Drew,
The PMA4000 from PS Engineering fits the bill with up to 4
unswitched inputs (+ the 4 switched), including music which
has selectable muting... Music Off for pilot when receiving
(or on) or On for passengers, Ie: no ATC. Handles up to 4
passengers. Before anybody complains that the CJ-6 only
holds 2, has anyone seen Hal's baggage bay in "8".
My Hard Earned (pension) dollars are going into the PMA4000
intercom/audio panel, and one of those new XCOMs for COM2.
Avionics industry rumor has it that Aircraft Spruce
purchased the company.
For you MooneyChang guys, the Filser line of German radios
also fit 2-1/2" holes and allow up to a 4-char alpha tag
with saved frequencies.
Craig Payne
----- Original Message Follows -----
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I'm going for the 'round radios' most likely beckers, what
> I want to determin is if either beckers or the aussie 760
> can monitor the stby frequency. Craig you mentioned this
> with the 760, just wanted to clarify. Mark, the becker
> does not? Spruce online catalog says nothing about this
> feature with either.
>
> I have a russian radio as a back up, but will need an
> audio panel to monitor that comm 2 I believe.
>
> Finally, I had a CD player in the chang from PS
> Engineeering, great for xcountries, but MP3 is superior
> (no skipping under gs for one), anyone know of a audio
> panel or comm that has an external mic plug in? (for an
> MP3 player).
>
> Drew
>
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Subject: | Re: More Round Radios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Craig,
Do you know if Aircraft Spruce has the XCOM radios in stock? The reason I
ask is because the XCOM web site says deliveries in Q1-2004.
Merry Christmas,
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: More Round Radios
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> Drew,
>
> The PMA4000 from PS Engineering fits the bill with up to 4
> unswitched inputs (+ the 4 switched), including music which
> has selectable muting... Music Off for pilot when receiving
> (or on) or On for passengers, Ie: no ATC. Handles up to 4
> passengers. Before anybody complains that the CJ-6 only
> holds 2, has anyone seen Hal's baggage bay in "8".
>
> My Hard Earned (pension) dollars are going into the PMA4000
> intercom/audio panel, and one of those new XCOMs for COM2.
> Avionics industry rumor has it that Aircraft Spruce
> purchased the company.
>
>
> For you MooneyChang guys, the Filser line of German radios
> also fit 2-1/2" holes and allow up to a 4-char alpha tag
> with saved frequencies.
>
> Craig Payne
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> >
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I'm going for the 'round radios' most likely beckers, what
> > I want to determin is if either beckers or the aussie 760
> > can monitor the stby frequency. Craig you mentioned this
> > with the 760, just wanted to clarify. Mark, the becker
> > does not? Spruce online catalog says nothing about this
> > feature with either.
> >
> > I have a russian radio as a back up, but will need an
> > audio panel to monitor that comm 2 I believe.
> >
> > Finally, I had a CD player in the chang from PS
> > Engineeering, great for xcountries, but MP3 is superior
> > (no skipping under gs for one), anyone know of a audio
> > panel or comm that has an external mic plug in? (for an
> > MP3 player).
> >
> > Drew
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Wow there cowboy, cool ya jets, remember we are ALL RED STAR now brothers
and sisters in cheap communist stuff (Warbirds view) lets get angry with the
snobs in the T6s that think that Yaks/CJs/L birds belong at 3000 ft in a
formation at Osh not at an altitude where people can actually see them.
Get better soon Jim
Gus Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: (no subject)
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Here I sit freezing my a_s off in Delaware, two days before Christmas with a
rotten cold I pick up from my grand kids. Pull my self from my sick bed.
Sign on for my e-mail and find the most profanity printed on these very
pages.
THE CJ-6 IS NOT A COPY OF THE YAK. MUST WE SEND PEOPLE BACK TO AIRCRAFT
DESIGN SCHOOL?
GOD HELP US! THE NEW YEAR IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLE - I JUST KNOW IT.
HELL! I THINK I'LL GO BACK TO MY SICK BED.
MERRY CHRISTMAS !! BAW HUMBUG :>\
JIM GOOLSBY
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Subject: | Intermittent Internet Connectivity Issues to Matronics... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Starting at about 1:05pm PDT Matronics starting having intermittent
connectivity issues to the Internet. I've called the ISP and they are
looking into the problem and may do intrusive testing on the line at some
point this afternoon/evening. For the most part, things seem to be working
right now, but the line will drop out every once in a while for 2 to 3 minutes.
This problem will effect connections to the Matronics Web server as well as
distribution of List mail.
I will post a follow up when the problem has been resolved... Hopefully
later today.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Subject: | Military Frequent Flyer Miles Donations |
captjmreed@compuserve.com, Mentor441@aol.com
--> Yak-List message posted by: KingCJ6@aol.com
While somewhat "off subject" for this list, most seem at least somewhat
patriotic so here goes: many of us have spare miles in our frequent flyer accounts.
These can be easily donated to help a military person get home while on
leave, especially important for many hardship cases.
"About Operation Hero Miles
In September 2003, the Pentagon started giving soldiers stationed in Iraq
two-week leaves in the largest R & R program since the Vietnam War. Soldiers on
R
& R or Emergency Leave are flown by the military to Germany or three airports
in the United States, Baltimore/Washington, (BWI), Dallas/FortWorth, (DFW),
or Atlanta, (ATL ) for free.
The soldiers have been responsible for flights the rest of the way in the
U.S. to their destinations, until Congress provided funding for this purpose on
November 3, 2003. However, this funding is not yet available and may not be
sufficient for all the troops or troops on "Emergency Leave"."
Then site is www.heromilesorg.
Thanks, Dave
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
John
I have a real nice Yak-52 Solid wood model with a stand, it has a 20" wing
span and looks real nice, I had them made in the Philippines, can send you a
Picture.
Jim Selby
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Widiker, John D
Subject: Yak-List: Scale Models
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@eds.com>
I built a 1/72nd Yak52 last night, turned out very nice, but it's awfully
small. Does anyone know where I might obtain any other kits of the 52 in
other scale? Also I hope all have a wonderful and safe holiday.
~John
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Subject: | Military Frequent Flyer Miles Donations |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Great idea I am going to get Goldman Sachs to provide a method of employee
donation.
Nice one
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KingCJ6@aol.com
Moonsite1@aol.com; captjmreed@compuserve.com; Mentor441@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: Military Frequent Flyer Miles Donations
--> Yak-List message posted by: KingCJ6@aol.com
While somewhat "off subject" for this list, most seem at least somewhat
patriotic so here goes: many of us have spare miles in our frequent flyer
accounts.
These can be easily donated to help a military person get home while on
leave, especially important for many hardship cases.
"About Operation Hero Miles
In September 2003, the Pentagon started giving soldiers stationed in Iraq
two-week leaves in the largest R & R program since the Vietnam War. Soldiers
on R
& R or Emergency Leave are flown by the military to Germany or three
airports
in the United States, Baltimore/Washington, (BWI), Dallas/FortWorth, (DFW),
or Atlanta, (ATL ) for free.
The soldiers have been responsible for flights the rest of the way in the
U.S. to their destinations, until Congress provided funding for this purpose
on
November 3, 2003. However, this funding is not yet available and may not be
sufficient for all the troops or troops on "Emergency Leave"."
Then site is www.heromilesorg.
Thanks, Dave
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--> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
Copy of a Yak-18A, no; direct descendant, yes. Both
the 52 and the CJ can trace their genealogy back to
the Yak-18 series. I agree it is not a copy, but to
profess it is a completely original design is a
fallacy.
Now on to the real argument; which one is the
red-headed stepchild :-)
D. Zeman
__________________________________
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" <p.goswick@cox.net>
could you send a photo and price on the 52 model
Phil Goswick
Tulsa, Ok N4117M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Scale Models
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
>
> John
> I have a real nice Yak-52 Solid wood model with a stand, it has a 20" wing
> span and looks real nice, I had them made in the Philippines, can send you
a
> Picture.
> Jim Selby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Widiker, John D
> To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: Yak-List: Scale Models
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@eds.com>
>
> I built a 1/72nd Yak52 last night, turned out very nice, but it's awfully
> small. Does anyone know where I might obtain any other kits of the 52 in
> other scale? Also I hope all have a wonderful and safe holiday.
>
> ~John
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Goto http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver
There is a link to Russin manufactured YAK-52 desktop models. They are
well made, reasonably priced and decently sized.
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of p.goswick
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Scale Models
--> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" <p.goswick@cox.net>
could you send a photo and price on the 52 model
Phil Goswick
Tulsa, Ok N4117M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Scale Models
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
>
> John
> I have a real nice Yak-52 Solid wood model with a stand, it has a 20"
> wing span and looks real nice, I had them made in the Philippines, can
> send you
a
> Picture.
> Jim Selby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Widiker, John
> D
> To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: Yak-List: Scale Models
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Widiker, John D"
> --> <john.widiker@eds.com>
>
> I built a 1/72nd Yak52 last night, turned out very nice, but it's
> awfully small. Does anyone know where I might obtain any other kits of
> the 52 in other scale? Also I hope all have a wonderful and safe
> holiday.
>
> ~John
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
Excellent idea, Dave. Heard about this today on NPR. ...Blitz
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