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Wed 12/31/03


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     1. 05:56 PM - NPRM for Air Tour Operators (Jeff Linebaugh)
     2. 09:09 PM - Re: NPRM for Air Tour Operators (RV_8 Pilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:56:17 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
    Subject: NPRM for Air Tour Operators
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> Yakers, I don't usually post "off-subject" items...but feel this is very important. The FAA is trying to, in effect, shut down all local sightseeing ride businesses. If they are trying to do this, what is next? I have a great friend with a Waco YMF-5 who runs a Biplane ride business here in Memphis. This reg change would force his and hundreds of similar ride businesses, to operate under FAR 135, effectively driving them out of business....as it is next to impossible to meet 135 requirements with single-engine aircraft designed without 135 in mind. The FAA's reasoning in this NPRM is totally absurd. They site poor safety records attributed to a few helicopter, and multiengine sightseeing tours companies primarily in Hawaii and the Grand Canyon (135 operators!)... Instead of taking individual action against these few companies, they are going to ground the whole industry.... hundreds of safe local Mom and Pop one airplane businesses will get punished- because there is no distinction made between them and the few companies with the poor records. If you have a few minutes, would you get educated on this, and help out by writing a response to the NPRM? Below is a posting by AOPA on the subject, with links to briefs and surveys to help them build a case against the NPRM. We have made a difference in the past with general aviation related problems...it would be great if we could make a difference here! Thanks, and Happy New Year! Jeff Linebaugh Subject: URGENT - From AOPA Air Tour NPRM-Air Tour Operators The FAA recently published a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) that if enacted will, by the FAA's own admission, drive hundreds of small sightseeing operations out of business. The proposal, referred to as the National Air Tour Safety Standards NPRM would remove the current exemption that allows Part 91 sightseeing flights within 25 nm of an airport. Operators conducting flights under this exception would now be subject to the operational requirements of Part 135. AOPA, on behalf of its members, has requested that the FAA hold public meetings to assess the impact of its National Air Tour Safety Standards NPRM on general aviation operators conducting sightseeing tours under FAR Part 91. We are concerned that the FAA has failed to consider the true impact of this proposal on the general aviation community and contend that conducting public meetings will give Agency officials the opportunity to hear directly from those most affected. Members have expressed concern that the sightseeing elements of the proposed rule will adversely affect their livelihood. Through the FAA's own admission, the proposed rule will result in hundreds of small sightseeing operations going out of business. An issue brief providing additional information including the NPRM may be found at: http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regtours.html <http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regtours.html> We are asking operators to answer 17 questions to the best of their ability. This will assist us in drafting our comments to the final rule as well as our preparation for the anticipated public meetings. Specific information provided will be kept confidential. The link below will guide you to a secure section on the AOPA website where you will be asked to provide your answers . http://www.aopa.org/survey/survey.cfm?id=99 <http://www.aopa.org/survey/survey.cfm?id=99> Please forward this email and link to any operators whom you feel could assist in gathering this information. We thank you for participating in this survey. Rarely do we utilize surveys of this nature, but feel this issue has the potential to impact the industry in such a negative manner that it is necessary to gather this information. Robert E. Hackman Manager, Regulatory and Certification Policy Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association


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    Time: 09:09:48 PM PST US
    From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: NPRM for Air Tour Operators
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> I agree that this is an absurd proposed change, but the FAA has nothing to gain from personal/GA flying liberty. Actually, their job is made much easier and they appear to be more successful when GA is *shut completely down*. No accidents or *terrorist attacks* can happen that way, right?! This is my big problem with government - they operate outside the "American" system of freedom and capitalism, much like a cancer opon us all. Unaccountable to the people they "serve", with goals and objectives that direclty conflict with the rights and desires of the people. Remember the NPRM for TSA's ability to sieze a pilots certificate upon "suspicion" of being a threat! Lot of good all the feedback did on that one... The changed rule had no benefit, but it sure *looked good!* Personal liberty and freedom in general is under full scale assault by those who would seize it (gub'ment) in order to look good to the apathetic masses (get reelected or reappointed). Yea, this is just an observation and general rant. Wish I had a suggestion on how to deal with it, but I don't. Keep up the pressure. Maybe we can only hold them off for a while, but it's better than giving up. I keep trying to convince people that the government cancer is going to destroy much of what we value as Americans, but we'll be *d@mn safe*, won't we?! Join AOPA! Happy new year and happy flying! Bryan Jones RV-8, J-3, Yak/CJ - some day Pearland, Texas do not archive >I don't usually post "off-subject" items...but feel this is very important. > The FAA is trying to, in effect, shut down all local sightseeing ride >businesses. If they are trying to do this, what is next? > >I have a great friend with a Waco YMF-5 who runs a Biplane ride business >here in Memphis. This reg change would force his and hundreds of similar >ride businesses, to operate under FAR 135, effectively driving them out of >business....as it is next to impossible to meet 135 requirements with >single-engine aircraft designed without 135 in mind. > >The FAA's reasoning in this NPRM is totally absurd. They site poor safety >records attributed to a few helicopter, and multiengine sightseeing tours >companies primarily in Hawaii and the Grand Canyon (135 operators!)... >Instead of taking individual action against these few companies, they are >going to ground the whole industry.... hundreds of safe local Mom and Pop >one airplane businesses will get punished- because there is no distinction >made between them and the few companies with the poor records. > >If you have a few minutes, would you get educated on this, and help out by >writing a response to the NPRM? Below is a posting by AOPA on the subject, >with links to briefs and surveys to help them build a case against the >NPRM. > >We have made a difference in the past with general aviation related >problems...it would be great if we could make a difference here! > >Thanks, and Happy New Year! > >Jeff Linebaugh > >Subject: URGENT - From AOPA > >Air Tour NPRM-Air Tour Operators > >The FAA recently published a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) that if >enacted will, by the FAA's own admission, drive hundreds of small >sightseeing operations out of business. The proposal, referred to as the >National Air Tour Safety Standards NPRM would remove the current exemption >that allows Part 91 sightseeing flights within 25 nm of an airport. >Operators conducting flights under this exception would now be subject to >the operational requirements of Part 135. > >AOPA, on behalf of its members, has requested that the FAA hold public >meetings to assess the impact of its National Air Tour Safety Standards >NPRM >on general aviation operators conducting sightseeing tours under FAR Part >91. We are concerned that the FAA has failed to consider the true impact of >this proposal on the general aviation community and contend that conducting >public meetings will give Agency officials the opportunity to hear directly >from those most affected. > >Members have expressed concern that the sightseeing elements of the >proposed >rule will adversely affect their livelihood. Through the FAA's own >admission, the proposed rule will result in hundreds of small sightseeing >operations going out of business. > >An issue brief providing additional information including the NPRM may be >found at: > >http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regtours.html ><http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regtours.html> > >We are asking operators to answer 17 questions to the best of their >ability. >This will assist us in drafting our comments to the final rule as well as >our preparation for the anticipated public meetings. Specific information >provided will be kept confidential. The link below will guide you to a >secure section on the AOPA website where you will be asked to provide your >answers . > >http://www.aopa.org/survey/survey.cfm?id=99 ><http://www.aopa.org/survey/survey.cfm?id=99> > >Please forward this email and link to any operators whom you feel could >assist in gathering this information. > >We thank you for participating in this survey. Rarely do we utilize >surveys >of this nature, but feel this issue has the potential to impact the >industry >in such a negative manner that it is necessary to gather this information. > > >Robert E. Hackman >Manager, Regulatory and Certification Policy >Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association > > Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx




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