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1. 08:11 AM - No duh... (Barry Hancock)
2. 09:14 AM - Re: NPRM for Air Tour Operators (Dee Grimm)
3. 09:39 AM - Re: NPRM for Air Tour Operators (Drew Blahnick)
4. 06:56 PM - So, what did you do today? (FOUGAPILOT@aol.com)
5. 09:51 PM - Re: So, what did you do today? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Jeff,
I know a few tour operators as well...I'm definitely pitching in with
letters to help out.
> We are concerned that the FAA has failed to consider the true impact of
> this proposal on the general aviation community
Gee, there's a real shocker! When was the last time the FAA actually
*did* consider the true impact on GA????
B
Barry Hancock
Director of Operations
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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| Subject: | Re: NPRM for Air Tour Operators |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dee Grimm" <deegrimm@cox.net>
Hi Jeff,
To what FAA address do we send a reply?
Happy New Year! Dee
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| Subject: | Re: NPRM for Air Tour Operators |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
This is not directly related to this community, but it brings up one reason
why being 'organized' is so critical.
Having seen the FAAs madness first-hand in the Long Beach FSDO informing me
that the Southern California Flight Standards chiefs had all had a 'secret',
non public meeting and decided to kick out Eastern Block jets from several
airports, including mine, and greatly restricted my (and others here in
Torrance) freedom to operate the CJ, I can understand the frustration.
The LOA change issue last year that had such a major impact on the jet
owners at least shows that a united, and vocal, GA community can at least
alter or steer this mad cow of a federal agency. The outcome of that issue
could have been much worse without key folks getting involved, and getting
the 'victims' organized, at least on paper.
This one hits right in the pocket book,
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: NPRM for Air Tour Operators
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>
> I agree that this is an absurd proposed change, but the FAA has nothing to
> gain from personal/GA flying liberty. Actually, their job is made much
> easier and they appear to be more successful when GA is *shut completely
> down*. No accidents or *terrorist attacks* can happen that way, right?!
> This is my big problem with government - they operate outside the
"American"
> system of freedom and capitalism, much like a cancer opon us all.
> Unaccountable to the people they "serve", with goals and objectives that
> direclty conflict with the rights and desires of the people.
>
> Remember the NPRM for TSA's ability to sieze a pilots certificate upon
> "suspicion" of being a threat! Lot of good all the feedback did on that
> one... The changed rule had no benefit, but it sure *looked good!*
>
> Personal liberty and freedom in general is under full scale assault by
those
> who would seize it (gub'ment) in order to look good to the apathetic
masses
> (get reelected or reappointed).
>
> Yea, this is just an observation and general rant. Wish I had a
suggestion
> on how to deal with it, but I don't. Keep up the pressure. Maybe we can
> only hold them off for a while, but it's better than giving up.
>
> I keep trying to convince people that the government cancer is going to
> destroy much of what we value as Americans, but we'll be *d@mn safe*,
won't
> we?!
>
> Join AOPA!
>
> Happy new year and happy flying!
>
> Bryan Jones
> RV-8, J-3, Yak/CJ - some day
> Pearland, Texas
> do not archive
>
> >I don't usually post "off-subject" items...but feel this is very
important.
> > The FAA is trying to, in effect, shut down all local sightseeing ride
> >businesses. If they are trying to do this, what is next?
> >
> >I have a great friend with a Waco YMF-5 who runs a Biplane ride business
> >here in Memphis. This reg change would force his and hundreds of similar
> >ride businesses, to operate under FAR 135, effectively driving them out
of
> >business....as it is next to impossible to meet 135 requirements with
> >single-engine aircraft designed without 135 in mind.
> >
> >The FAA's reasoning in this NPRM is totally absurd. They site poor
safety
> >records attributed to a few helicopter, and multiengine sightseeing tours
> >companies primarily in Hawaii and the Grand Canyon (135 operators!)...
> >Instead of taking individual action against these few companies, they are
> >going to ground the whole industry.... hundreds of safe local Mom and Pop
> >one airplane businesses will get punished- because there is no
distinction
> >made between them and the few companies with the poor records.
> >
> >If you have a few minutes, would you get educated on this, and help out
by
> >writing a response to the NPRM? Below is a posting by AOPA on the
subject,
> >with links to briefs and surveys to help them build a case against the
> >NPRM.
> >
> >We have made a difference in the past with general aviation related
> >problems...it would be great if we could make a difference here!
> >
> >Thanks, and Happy New Year!
> >
> >Jeff Linebaugh
> >
> >Subject: URGENT - From AOPA
> >
> >Air Tour NPRM-Air Tour Operators
> >
> >The FAA recently published a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) that if
> >enacted will, by the FAA's own admission, drive hundreds of small
> >sightseeing operations out of business. The proposal, referred to as the
> >National Air Tour Safety Standards NPRM would remove the current
exemption
> >that allows Part 91 sightseeing flights within 25 nm of an airport.
> >Operators conducting flights under this exception would now be subject to
> >the operational requirements of Part 135.
> >
> >AOPA, on behalf of its members, has requested that the FAA hold public
> >meetings to assess the impact of its National Air Tour Safety Standards
> >NPRM
> >on general aviation operators conducting sightseeing tours under FAR Part
> >91. We are concerned that the FAA has failed to consider the true impact
of
> >this proposal on the general aviation community and contend that
conducting
> >public meetings will give Agency officials the opportunity to hear
directly
> >from those most affected.
> >
> >Members have expressed concern that the sightseeing elements of the
> >proposed
> >rule will adversely affect their livelihood. Through the FAA's own
> >admission, the proposed rule will result in hundreds of small sightseeing
> >operations going out of business.
> >
> >An issue brief providing additional information including the NPRM may be
> >found at:
> >
> >http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regtours.html
> ><http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regtours.html>
> >
> >We are asking operators to answer 17 questions to the best of their
> >ability.
> >This will assist us in drafting our comments to the final rule as well as
> >our preparation for the anticipated public meetings. Specific
information
> >provided will be kept confidential. The link below will guide you to a
> >secure section on the AOPA website where you will be asked to provide
your
> >answers .
> >
> >http://www.aopa.org/survey/survey.cfm?id=99
> ><http://www.aopa.org/survey/survey.cfm?id=99>
> >
> >Please forward this email and link to any operators whom you feel could
> >assist in gathering this information.
> >
> >We thank you for participating in this survey. Rarely do we utilize
> >surveys
> >of this nature, but feel this issue has the potential to impact the
> >industry
> >in such a negative manner that it is necessary to gather this
information.
> >
> >
> >Robert E. Hackman
> >Manager, Regulatory and Certification Policy
> >Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
> >
> >
>
> Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work and
> yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx
>
>
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| Subject: | So, what did you do today? |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: FOUGAPILOT@aol.com
It was a picture perfect morning. Not a cloud in sight, unlimited
visibility, light north-westerly winds. The only draw back was the forecast daytime
high of -4 degree Celsius.
The CJ started quite good considering the temperature and the fact she had
not run in more then 2 months. The taxi was a bit hazardous, the multiple
layers of clothing I was wearing didn't make it any easier, but the ice covered
taxiway makes taxiing any aircraft an adventure never mind a CJ. I was the first
one airborne, followed closely by J.F. in the Pilatus (P3) and then by Michel
in the FockeWulf (FWP149D). We wondered in loose formation in the crisp
winter morning air looking at the world recovering from last night.
After about 30 minutes of flight and the mandatory fly-by at local airfields,
I noticed one of my fuel tanks is not emptying. Fearing the vent may be
frozen, I decide to stop at Montreal main airport for a quick pit stop (no fuel
available on new years day at my home base and my bird was not full to begin
with), leaving my 2 friends on their merry way.
I love this airport. Where else would the tower of an international airport
insist you buzz them on arrival and departure? So, after the Formula 1 type
pit stop and the mandatory salutations to ATC, I am again on my way.
Center is bored to death on this "busy" day and decides they want to ask me
all sorts of questions about my airplane, so they keep me on their frequency
until I am right over my home base. Just before he sends me on my way, he
advises me of 2 primary targets 3nm north of my position. There they are, father
and son, one flying Swiss' colors, the other German's, due north and 1000ft
below. Perfect! As ACDC - "Thunderstruck"sounds on my MP3 player, with the sun
on my back, I roll my Chinese mistress beyond 90 degree and commence my run.
The Gs are increasing, 4Gs, 4.5Gs, and 5Gs, I unload and there I am, unseen,
unheard 1000ft exactly at their 6. I switch to guns and let go a couple of
short bursts - not sportsmanlike, I agree but all is fair in love and war- Splash
two. I celebrate with a couple of victory rolls.
By noon, the hangar door is now closed; the birds are asleep, each is going
his separate way to rejoin family and friends. 1.5hrs of flying, 8 buzz jobs,
2 kills I can think of worse ways to welcome the New Year.
Blue skies.
Dan Fortin
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| Subject: | Re: So, what did you do today? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 1/1/2004 9:56:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
FOUGAPILOT@aol.com writes:
>
> By noon, the hangar door is now closed; the birds are asleep, each is going
> his separate way to rejoin family and friends. 1.5hrs of flying, 8 buzz
> jobs,
> 2 kills I can think of worse ways to welcome the New Year.
>
> Blue skies.
>
> Dan Fortin
>
Way to go Dan.
Jim
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