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1. 02:19 AM - Fuel tank (Aubrey Price)
2. 03:48 AM - Re: Nanchang Motors (cpayne@joimail.com)
3. 05:54 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/10/04 (Janet Davidson)
4. 06:31 AM - CJ6A cruising at 300 Kph (Brian Lloyd)
5. 09:40 AM - Re: CJ6A cruising at 300 Kph (Robert Mortara)
6. 11:59 AM - CJ Air Tanks (Jeff Linebaugh)
7. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: Nanchang Motors (DaBear)
8. 12:24 PM - Pilot Magazine (Frank Stelwagon)
9. 12:27 PM - YAK 11 propeller (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
10. 12:41 PM - Re: CJ Air Tanks (Walt Lannon)
11. 07:10 PM - Bikes (Lou Dakos)
12. 08:24 PM - Re: CJ Air Tanks (A. Dennis Savarese)
13. 09:57 PM - Re: CJ Air Tanks (Walt Lannon)
14. 10:58 PM - Oil Bottle Cap (Stuart Mackereth)
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Does anyone in the Dallas Area have a YAK52 with the extra fuel tank mounted
behind the rear set. If so, I would like to look it over and ask questions.
--> Yak-List message posted by: Aubrey Price <aprice@vartec.net>
Aubrey Price
214-725-7125
Aubrey Price
VarTec Telecom, Inc.
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang Motors |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
That would be the Tupolev Tu-4 I believe. A real "classic"
example of Russian Reverse Engineering, much like the Ziln
limo that looks *almost* like a '55 Packard, right down to
the grill badge.
Of course the Chinese have NEVER done anything like that.
Not only does Mona Lisa smile, she winks too! :)
Craig Payne
----- Original Message Follows -----
> B-29
> When I was in China Last year the I saw a Copy of the B-29
> there, I understand the Russian's sold some of the 850
> they built to the Chinese, there was Three there when I
> saw them, would be a good project for someone Ha.
> Jim Selby
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/10/04 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
Talking of copies, what about Konkordski?
For anyone wanting to see the article, I brought the magazine back from the
UK. It is currently on loan to a friend, but when I get it back, I'll scan
it and send it out to whoever is interested. Won't be for a couple of
weeks, so if you do have other ways of accesssing it, go ahead.
Barry, I don't think you can access the articles online. I signed up and
had a look, but as the sign up was free, I doubt very much they are going to
part with their precious articles ;)
In the article, the author mentions cruising, low level, at 300kph. I read
through the article a number of times, but didn't see any reference to an
M14P, so is my Nanchang just very slow, or does the author have a bit of the
'gift of the gab' in him?
Janet
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
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> 1. 07:16 AM - Re: Nanchang Motors (Todd Wikel)
> 2. 07:41 AM - Re: Nanchang Motors (Walt Fricke)
> 3. 08:44 AM - Re: Nanchang Motors (Yakjock)
> 4. 12:41 PM - Re: Nanchang Motors (Doug Sapp)
> 5. 12:45 PM - Re: Nanchang Motors (Janet Davidson)
> 6. 04:34 PM - Re: Nanchang Motors (Jim Selby)
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>
>________________________________ Message 1
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 07:16:09 AM PST US
>From: "Todd Wikel" <twikel@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Todd Wikel" <twikel@comcast.net>
>
>I wouldn't claim they can't be brought in. I know a guy with 8 of them in
>crates. These may not be the same bikes. These are made from the plans of
>German WW2 military bikes. I'll go over and get some pics when I get a
>chance.
>Todd Wikel
>Dallas, TX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> > Sorry guys, the motor bikes and cycles won't pass US EPA standards so
>you
> > cannot bring them in, Fred Ihlenberg tried it, as I recall they gave
>him
>a
> > choice, send them back or they (customs) would cut them up. But I am
>sure
> > the roller skates would import with no problem, and yes I guess you
>could
> > say that they have air start Grunt, VROOMMMMMMM, grunt, grunt, gasp,
> > varoommmm!
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Boede
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
> >
> > Doug -- does that Nanchang motorcycle have air start and air brakes?
> >
> > I mean, if it's built as well as the CJ-6A, I'm all about brand loyalty.
> >
> > Jon :-)
> >
> >
>
>
>________________________________ Message 2
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 07:41:18 AM PST US
>From: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
>
>I know a guy here in town who imported a collection of Chinese motorcycles.
> Not
>street legal, but not cut up either. airport use. (maybe brought them in
>on
>his C-123 and the ATF folks were looking at something else?) They don't
>sound
>like Harleys, and not quite a honda either. More a "bitty bitty chang
>chang"
>kind of sound.
>
>Todd Wikel <twikel@comcast.net> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: "Todd
>Wikel"
>
>
>I wouldn't claim they can't be brought in. I know a guy with 8 of them in
>crates. These may not be the same bikes. These are made from the plans of
>German WW2 military bikes. I'll go over and get some pics when I get a
>chance.
>Todd Wikel
>Dallas, TX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug Sapp"
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp"
> >
> > Sorry guys, the motor bikes and cycles won't pass US EPA standards so
>you
> > cannot bring them in, Fred Ihlenberg tried it, as I recall they gave him
>a
> > choice, send them back or they (customs) would cut them up. But I am
>sure
> > the roller skates would import with no problem, and yes I guess you
>could
> > say that they have air start Grunt, VROOMMMMMMM, grunt, grunt, gasp,
> > varoommmm!
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Boede
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede"
> >
> > Doug -- does that Nanchang motorcycle have air start and air brakes?
> >
> > I mean, if it's built as well as the CJ-6A, I'm all about brand loyalty.
> >
> > Jon :-)
> >
> >
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>________________________________ Message 3
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 08:44:02 AM PST US
>From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
>
> Classic designs always get copied, but like a copy of the Mona Lisa they
> just don't get the style of the original
>
> :)))))))
>
> Gus
>
>
>And I assume that smiles above are the Yak/CJ version of the Mona Lisa
>Smile?
>
>I've heard that the Russian radial was based on the US radial design. And
>didn't
>the Russians copy a B-29, right down to all the mistakes and graffiti? Now
>if the Russians had had to land one of "their" B-29s in China, I wonder
>what
>the Chinese would have called it?
>
>Re the UK article, Janet do we have to be subscribers? I've not been able
>to view
>the article.
>
>
>Hal Morley
>CJ-6M3E "8"
>CJ-6M3E "Hana Ho!"
>
>"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is
>no
>good evidence either way."
>--Bertrand Russell
>
>
>________________________________ Message 4
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 12:41:01 PM PST US
>From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
>I may have mis spoke when I stated that they could not be brought in to the
>US. What I should have said was that when I last checked (which was 2
>years
>ago) the motorcycles would not pass emission specs. But knowing the lack
>of
>standards at the various customs I'm not surprised that someone has managed
>to get some in the country. Maybe I'll try it again, cuz the biggest one
>with the side car is a real hoot to drive.
>
>Always Yakin,
>Doug Sapp
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Fricke
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
>
>I know a guy here in town who imported a collection of Chinese motorcycles.
>Not street legal, but not cut up either. airport use. (maybe brought them
>in on his C-123 and the ATF folks were looking at something else?) They
>don't sound like Harleys, and not quite a honda either. More a "bitty
>bitty chang chang" kind of sound.
>
>Todd Wikel <twikel@comcast.net> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: "Todd
>Wikel"
>
>I wouldn't claim they can't be brought in. I know a guy with 8 of them in
>crates. These may not be the same bikes. These are made from the plans of
>German WW2 military bikes. I'll go over and get some pics when I get a
>chance.
>Todd Wikel
>Dallas, TX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug Sapp"
>To:
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp"
> >
> > Sorry guys, the motor bikes and cycles won't pass US EPA standards so
>you
> > cannot bring them in, Fred Ihlenberg tried it, as I recall they gave him
>a
> > choice, send them back or they (customs) would cut them up. But I am
>sure
> > the roller skates would import with no problem, and yes I guess you
>could
> > say that they have air start Grunt, VROOMMMMMMM, grunt, grunt, gasp,
> > varoommmm!
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Boede
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede"
> >
> > Doug -- does that Nanchang motorcycle have air start and air brakes?
> >
> > I mean, if it's built as well as the CJ-6A, I'm all about brand loyalty.
> >
> > Jon :-)
> >
> >
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>________________________________ Message 5
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 12:45:32 PM PST US
>From: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
>
>Did you see the four-place bikes? They'd be ideal transport to and from
>lodgings at Convention ;)
>
>Janet
>
>
>Ph: 920 232 9238
>email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
>
>
> >From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
> >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:40:29 -0800
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> >I may have mis spoke when I stated that they could not be brought in to
>the
> >US. What I should have said was that when I last checked (which was 2
> >years
> >ago) the motorcycles would not pass emission specs. But knowing the lack
> >of
> >standards at the various customs I'm not surprised that someone has
>managed
> >to get some in the country. Maybe I'll try it again, cuz the biggest one
> >with the side car is a real hoot to drive.
> >
> >Always Yakin,
> >Doug Sapp
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Fricke
> >To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
> >
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
> >
> >I know a guy here in town who imported a collection of Chinese
>motorcycles.
> >Not street legal, but not cut up either. airport use. (maybe brought
>them
> >in on his C-123 and the ATF folks were looking at something else?) They
> >don't sound like Harleys, and not quite a honda either. More a "bitty
> >bitty chang chang" kind of sound.
> >
> >Todd Wikel <twikel@comcast.net> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by:
>"Todd
> >Wikel"
> >
> >I wouldn't claim they can't be brought in. I know a guy with 8 of them in
> >crates. These may not be the same bikes. These are made from the plans of
> >German WW2 military bikes. I'll go over and get some pics when I get a
> >chance.
> >Todd Wikel
> >Dallas, TX
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Doug Sapp"
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp"
> > >
> > > Sorry guys, the motor bikes and cycles won't pass US EPA standards so
> >you
> > > cannot bring them in, Fred Ihlenberg tried it, as I recall they gave
>him
> >a
> > > choice, send them back or they (customs) would cut them up. But I am
> >sure
> > > the roller skates would import with no problem, and yes I guess you
> >could
> > > say that they have air start Grunt, VROOMMMMMMM, grunt, grunt, gasp,
> > > varoommmm!
> > >
> > > Always Yakin,
> > > Doug Sapp
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Boede
> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede"
> > >
> > > Doug -- does that Nanchang motorcycle have air start and air brakes?
> > >
> > > I mean, if it's built as well as the CJ-6A, I'm all about brand
>loyalty.
> > >
> > > Jon :-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
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>________________________________ Message 6
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 04:34:03 PM PST US
>From: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
>
>B-29
>When I was in China Last year the I saw a Copy of the B-29 there, I
>understand the Russian's sold some of the 850 they built to the Chinese,
>there was Three there when I saw them, would be a good project for someone
>Ha.
>Jim Selby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Yakjock
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Motors
>
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
>
> Classic designs always get copied, but like a copy of the Mona Lisa they
> just don't get the style of the original
>
> :)))))))
>
> Gus
>
>
>And I assume that smiles above are the Yak/CJ version of the Mona Lisa
>Smile?
>
>I've heard that the Russian radial was based on the US radial design. And
>didn't the Russians copy a B-29, right down to all the mistakes and
>graffiti? Now if the Russians had had to land one of "their" B-29s in
>China, I wonder what the Chinese would have called it?
>
>Re the UK article, Janet do we have to be subscribers? I've not been able
>to view the article.
>
>
>Hal Morley
>CJ-6M3E "8"
>CJ-6M3E "Hana Ho!"
>
>"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is
>no good evidence either way."
>--Bertrand Russell
>
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| Subject: | CJ6A cruising at 300 Kph |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Janet Davidson wrote:
> In the article, the author mentions cruising, low level, at 300kph. I read
> through the article a number of times, but didn't see any reference to an
> M14P, so is my Nanchang just very slow, or does the author have a bit of the
> 'gift of the gab' in him?
300 Kph is 187 mph or 163 Kts. I also suspect that he is referring to
TAS and not IAS. It is also possible that he has a static system leak
that will cause his ASI to indicate high thus causing TAS to be higher
than actual. Still, at full power I suspect that a CJ6A will reach
close to this speeds down low. I don't expect many people to want to
burn that much fuel to go an extra 10 knots but I think it is possible.
BTW, for people who want to calibrate their ASI, I have an Excel
spreadsheet that accepts three GPS ground-track/groundspeed inputs and
outputs TAS and wind velocity. If you then work TAS backward to get CAS
you can verify the accuracy of your ASI. I have done this for every
aircraft I have flown and found the results very interesting.
To use the spreadsheet just fly a triangle of three constant headings
while maintaining (and recording) IAS, OAT, and the track/groundspeed
from your GPS. Do this at several indicated airspeeds and
configurations in order to create a calibration card. You can do it all
in one hop and then crunch the numbers on the ground. When done you
will know just how good your airspeed indicator is.
In my CJ6A with no leaks in either the pitot or static systems I found
that the ASI was spot on at about 100 Kts (about 185 kph). At the low
speed end the ASI indicated progressively too high until it was about
3-4 kts fast at stall. Likewise it indicated progressively too slow as
you went above 100 Kts. I think I posted my IAS/CAS correction card
info a couple of years back.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
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| Subject: | CJ6A cruising at 300 Kph |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Robert Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com>
I would like a copy of your spread sheet.
Thanks
rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Yak-List: CJ6A cruising at 300 Kph
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Janet Davidson wrote:
> In the article, the author mentions cruising, low level, at 300kph. I
read
> through the article a number of times, but didn't see any reference to an
> M14P, so is my Nanchang just very slow, or does the author have a bit of
the
> 'gift of the gab' in him?
300 Kph is 187 mph or 163 Kts. I also suspect that he is referring to
TAS and not IAS. It is also possible that he has a static system leak
that will cause his ASI to indicate high thus causing TAS to be higher
than actual. Still, at full power I suspect that a CJ6A will reach
close to this speeds down low. I don't expect many people to want to
burn that much fuel to go an extra 10 knots but I think it is possible.
BTW, for people who want to calibrate their ASI, I have an Excel
spreadsheet that accepts three GPS ground-track/groundspeed inputs and
outputs TAS and wind velocity. If you then work TAS backward to get CAS
you can verify the accuracy of your ASI. I have done this for every
aircraft I have flown and found the results very interesting.
To use the spreadsheet just fly a triangle of three constant headings
while maintaining (and recording) IAS, OAT, and the track/groundspeed
from your GPS. Do this at several indicated airspeeds and
configurations in order to create a calibration card. You can do it all
in one hop and then crunch the numbers on the ground. When done you
will know just how good your airspeed indicator is.
In my CJ6A with no leaks in either the pitot or static systems I found
that the ASI was spot on at about 100 Kts (about 185 kph). At the low
speed end the ASI indicated progressively too high until it was about
3-4 kts fast at stall. Likewise it indicated progressively too slow as
you went above 100 Kts. I think I posted my IAS/CAS correction card
info a couple of years back.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Moving further through the air system on my CJ's annual Condition Inspection
.we found some corrosion in the Air Tanks.
The Main Air Tank had just some minor surface rust. I have been adding air
tool oil to the air system pretty religiously and this evidently has helped
some.
The corrosion in the Emergency Air Tank was a different story. The
corrosion was past what I would consider safe....we replaced the tank.
I had both the old Main and new Emergency Tanks tested by Tyms out on the
West Coast. They cleaned the Main Air Tank, removed the surface corrosion,
and tested both tanks. They charged $40 for each tank, and sent a copy of
the results...both cam back well within limits....cheap piece of mind for me
(It did take a month and some "pestering" to get the tanks back from them
though so plan ahead during some down time...)
I got to asking myself why there was a difference between the two tanks, and
if there were any lessons to be learned. I think the Emergency Tank is much
more "static".... Since it sits fully charged, it is not "replenished" and
so does not get the benefit of any oil-mixed air circulating through it..
Re-filling the tank with Nitrogen instead of air may also help in the future
(If it leaks down, it may be replenished with normal air, but at least it
would start with "dry" N2.)
Hope this Lessons learned can help others....check the tanks EVERY YEAR, and
recoat them thoroughly to help stave off corrosion, in particular the
Emergency Air Tank.
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang Motors |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
OH no... here comes Jim again...
:-)
Al "Copy Yes, Improvement Yes; get over it!" DeVere
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From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Nanchang Motors
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> That would be the Tupolev Tu-4 I believe. A real "classic"
> example of Russian Reverse Engineering, much like the Ziln
> limo that looks *almost* like a '55 Packard, right down to
> the grill badge.
>
> Of course the Chinese have NEVER done anything like that.
>
> Not only does Mona Lisa smile, she winks too! :)
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> > B-29
> > When I was in China Last year the I saw a Copy of the B-29
> > there, I understand the Russian's sold some of the 850
> > they built to the Chinese, there was Three there when I
> > saw them, would be a good project for someone Ha.
> > Jim Selby
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
BARNES & NOBLE usually carries the PILOT magazine, usually have to look thoroughly
thru the rack to find it.
Frank
CJ-6A N23021
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| Subject: | YAK 11 propeller |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
Is there anyone out there who has some YAK 11 (VISH-111-V-20 ) propeller data,
specifically blade profiles?
Best regards
Mark Jefferies
: Managing director YAK UK Ltd
Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England.
( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax
( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile
: Conditions/ terms of business
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Air Tanks |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
> I got to asking myself why there was a difference between the two tanks,
and
> if there were any lessons to be learned. I think the Emergency Tank is
much
> more "static".... Since it sits fully charged, it is not "replenished"
and
> so does not get the benefit of any oil-mixed air circulating through it..
> Re-filling the tank with Nitrogen instead of air may also help in the
future
> (If it leaks down, it may be replenished with normal air, but at least it
> would start with "dry" N2.)
Jeff;
Filling the emergency system with nitrogen is an excellent idea. I think if
you could start with a new or completely un-corroded tank this would extend
its life enormously. The emerency system is far less subject to leakage than
the main system and tends to retain a higher charge. In most circumstances
this means it will not be accepting any additional charge from the compessor
and will only do so if there is a leak (pretty unlikely in most cases) or if
used. It could be recharged with N2 after annual operation checks. Great
idea!
Walt
> Hope this Lessons learned can help others....check the tanks EVERY YEAR,
and
> recoat them thoroughly to help stave off corrosion, in particular the
> Emergency Air Tank.
>
> Jeff Linebaugh
> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <lou_dakos@bordermail.com.au>
Who are the people that export the rice burner bikes from china, just what I am
looking for, got to stay one step in front of yak borsche burners.
Lou
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Air Tanks |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Walt,
Does the CJ emergency air tank fill along with (in parallel with) the main
air tank or can you fill it separately from the main air tank? The YAK 52
is in parallel. They both fill at the same time.
Just curious.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Tanks
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
>
> > I got to asking myself why there was a difference between the two tanks,
> and
> > if there were any lessons to be learned. I think the Emergency Tank is
> much
> > more "static".... Since it sits fully charged, it is not "replenished"
> and
> > so does not get the benefit of any oil-mixed air circulating through
it..
> > Re-filling the tank with Nitrogen instead of air may also help in the
> future
> > (If it leaks down, it may be replenished with normal air, but at least
it
> > would start with "dry" N2.)
>
> Jeff;
> Filling the emergency system with nitrogen is an excellent idea. I think
if
> you could start with a new or completely un-corroded tank this would
extend
> its life enormously. The emerency system is far less subject to leakage
than
> the main system and tends to retain a higher charge. In most circumstances
> this means it will not be accepting any additional charge from the
compessor
> and will only do so if there is a leak (pretty unlikely in most cases) or
if
> used. It could be recharged with N2 after annual operation checks. Great
> idea!
> Walt
>
> > Hope this Lessons learned can help others....check the tanks EVERY YEAR,
> and
> > recoat them thoroughly to help stave off corrosion, in particular the
> > Emergency Air Tank.
> >
> > Jeff Linebaugh
> > jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Air Tanks |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
Hi Dennis;
The CJ charging system is in parallel, Both fill through the opened main
valve, though the relief valve and water filter to a pair of non-return
check valves, one for each system.
Sounds like the same system as the 52 though I understand that the 52 does
not charge the emerg. from the compressor. Is that correct? That would be an
advantage over the CJ if using N2 since it could not be contaminated by air
from the compressor.
I think I will borrow Jeff's idea and use N2 for the emerg. side and re-set
the relief about 3 to 5atm. lower after filling in order to reduce the
possibility of adding air from the compressor.
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Tanks
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Walt,
> Does the CJ emergency air tank fill along with (in parallel with) the main
> air tank or can you fill it separately from the main air tank? The YAK 52
> is in parallel. They both fill at the same time.
> Just curious.
> Dennis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Tanks
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
> >
> > > I got to asking myself why there was a difference between the two
tanks,
> > and
> > > if there were any lessons to be learned. I think the Emergency Tank
is
> > much
> > > more "static".... Since it sits fully charged, it is not
"replenished"
> > and
> > > so does not get the benefit of any oil-mixed air circulating through
> it..
> > > Re-filling the tank with Nitrogen instead of air may also help in the
> > future
> > > (If it leaks down, it may be replenished with normal air, but at
least
> it
> > > would start with "dry" N2.)
> >
> > Jeff;
> > Filling the emergency system with nitrogen is an excellent idea. I think
> if
> > you could start with a new or completely un-corroded tank this would
> extend
> > its life enormously. The emerency system is far less subject to leakage
> than
> > the main system and tends to retain a higher charge. In most
circumstances
> > this means it will not be accepting any additional charge from the
> compessor
> > and will only do so if there is a leak (pretty unlikely in most cases)
or
> if
> > used. It could be recharged with N2 after annual operation checks. Great
> > idea!
> > Walt
> >
> > > Hope this Lessons learned can help others....check the tanks EVERY
YEAR,
> > and
> > > recoat them thoroughly to help stave off corrosion, in particular the
> > > Emergency Air Tank.
> > >
> > > Jeff Linebaugh
> > > jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Stuart Mackereth" <stuart@bramptonyork.com>
Hi all
Yesterday a co-owner of a yak52 accidentally dropped the plastic oil cap
seal from a bottle of W100 into the oil tank, and by the time he managed
to grab a wire to try scoup it out, it had sunk. Our local technician
reckoned it aint a problem, and will not melt (at 50-65deg), and will
end up in the oil filter before long. He reckons keep flying and look
for it at our next inspection... Being a bit nervous, thought I'd check
online for opinions here first. Thanks!
Stuart
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