Yak-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/23/04


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:50 AM - Oil Filter Installation (Frank Stelwagon)
     2. 10:44 AM - JIM BERNIER WHERE ARE YOU??? (Doug Sapp)
     3. 11:17 AM - M14 (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
     4. 02:12 PM - Fuel Cap Engraving, Labeling, Indentifying (Wayne Cahoon @ Aircraft Engravers)
     5. 04:24 PM - Ethanol (ByronMFox@aol.com)
     6. 06:29 PM - Ground school (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     7. 06:42 PM - Re: Ethanol Use (cpayne@joimail.com)
     8. 08:15 PM - Re: Ethanol (Bob Fitzpatrick)
     9. 10:53 PM - Alcohol blends (Frank Stelwagon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:50:05 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Oil Filter Installation
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net> without a doubt the ADC high flow kit is the best set up. The mount is great and contains the provision to prevent the filter from vibrating on the mount. Also you can get the chip detector added if desired. Frank CJ6-A N23021


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    Time: 10:44:03 AM PST US
    From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: JIM BERNIER WHERE ARE YOU???
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> JIM, LISTERS AND LURKERS, CALL THE TRUCKING CO, THEY ARE TRYING TO DELIVER YOUR PROP AND ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR PHONE NUMBER. MY NUMBER FOR YOU DOESN'T WORK EITHER. ANYONE KNOWING HOW TO REACH JIM PLEASE LET HIM KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp


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    Time: 11:17:58 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
    Subject: M14
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> Does anyone have a serviceable mid life engine M14P that they wish to sell. Its for a YAK 50 that's coming to USA in 3 weeks time. The current engine in the a/c had hydro lock and obviously badly damaged. Oliver is a young man and has overstretch a little to buy the 50. he worked for us for a while gaining experience on the YAK series of a/c. Any help with an engine at give away prices would be much appreciated. Thanks. Best regards Mark Jefferies : Managing director YAK UK Ltd Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile : Conditions/ terms of business


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    Time: 02:12:57 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Cahoon @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne@engravers.net>
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    Subject: Fuel Cap Engraving, Labeling, Indentifying
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Wayne Cahoon @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne@engravers.net> Have your Fuel Caps engraved, it's permanent and easy to read. Aircraft Engravers has been engraving fuel caps for over 14 years. You can see our web page at http://engravers.net/aircraft/fuel_caps.htm Other types of engraving jobs can be viewed at http://engravers.net/main/ac_products.htm There are a few sets of loaner fuel caps for the more common styles if your tanks are wet. FREE shipping by USPS Priority mail for all fuel cap engraving orders in the month of February. Wayne Cahoon Aircraft Engravers (860) 653-2780 (860) 653-7324 Fax http://engravers.net/


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    Time: 04:24:30 PM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Ethanol
    --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com Frustrated by the cost of the 1500 gallons of 100LL that went through my CJ's engine last year, I decided to again explore the science of automotive ethanol blended fuel. I stopped when I read the following on ARCO's site. Can I use ARCO's ethanol-blended gasoline in my small aircraft? No automotive gasoline can be used for refueling aircraft. However, some pilots and aircraft owners have obtained FAA certificates to use motor gasoline for their aircraft. Currently, the FAA prohibits the use of ethanol blends for this application. Does anyone know if this applies to Experimental aircraft, and what exactly are the risks associated with ethanol in our engines? Thanks,Blitz Byron M. Fox Mill Valley, CA Nanchang CJ-6A N221YK 415-307-2405


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    Time: 06:29:41 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Ground school
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Troops, Well, into each life and little rain must fall. This Tuesday I start 4 days of ground school. Its very intensive and the group of pilots hard workers. VERY little playing around. What airplane? Thought you'd never ask. Well, the first day will be the Mitchell B-25. This is new one for me, but - an airplane is - well an airplane. Oh hum. ;>] The second day will be my favorite the B-24J. Did I happen to mention I fly this rather regularly? The third day is the B-17 ground school. Did I happen to mention I fly this one too? Now right now I know you guys (and ladies) are feeling very sorry for me. But that's the way the cookie crumbles for old pelicans like me. So on Tuesday when you are mooching on lunch, I will most likely be trying to figure out the whys and where for of the Mitchell's hydraulics system in its top turret. The warm Florida sun beating down though its plexiglas and giving me an early burn and the sweat in my eyes. How does that song go? "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" :) :) :) :) :) :) Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.


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    Time: 06:42:18 PM PST US
    From: cpayne@joimail.com
    Subject: Re: Ethanol Use
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com Byron, Straight Mogas (really no such thing) can be used with an STC for engines certified with fuels less than 100LL. The reason for the Ethanol ban on these STC's was that the varnish in older fuel systems and carburators will break up and "clot" the screens using ethanol which is a powerful solvent. Plastic parts and hose also degrade in alchols. I don't know what materials are inside of Chinese and Russian carburators. I use Mogas cut with 100LL in my M14P. Keeps the spark plugs cleaner. Down here in FLA, I haven't seen Ethanol blends but my Ford truck is ready; I have the multi-fuel engine designed to operate on blends of up to 85% ethanol. Another reason for NOT using Ethanol blends is that it doesn't have as much heat energy as gasoline, hence, less "mileage" per fuel load. The Germans in WW-II used alchol blends and modified their aircraft engines to run on it. Due to greater O2 in the fuel, they performed better at high altitude, but with decreased combat radius. Craig Payne


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    Time: 08:15:53 PM PST US
    From: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Ethanol
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> Blitz, Flying with ethanol (alchohol) is nothing new. Back in the early days of Oshkosh EAA had a still set up on site and flew an experimental (can't remember what) with the ethanol produced. There have been several airshow acts flown on E over the years with the Vanguard Squadron being one of the most notable. They flew formation aerobatics in yellow E-powered RV's sponsored by the South Dakota Corn Growers. I also recall a Pitts, a Velocity and a C-152 flown on E. I have an auto-gas STC for my citabria that states no alchohol . That doesn't mean E is bad, just that it wasn't all that popular when the STC was approved so it wasn't used in testing. Gasoline varies seasonally around the country but virtually all of it has some sort of oxygenate to meet EPA standards. This used to be methanol-based ethers but those are now being phased out due to health concerns and E -blends are becoming more common. Pure ethanol is hard to find outside a liquor store so you will be dealing with a blend of some kind. Keep in mind ethanol has less BTU/gal so range will be decreased and adjustments to fuel and ignition are necessary. Ethanol got a bad rap in the early days because it tends to dissolve rubber fuel lines, blatters and gaskets.This caused obvious problems in older vehicles and small engines. Most modern vehicles are compatable with ethanol but i would NEVER put it in an aircraft unless i knew EVERY component of the fuel system was compatable. Do we really know that about our Yaks/CJs ? You can get more information from EAA or the Renewable Fuels Assn. or contact me off list. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <ByronMFox@aol.com> To: <yak-list@matronics.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: Yak-List: Ethanol > --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com > > Frustrated by the cost of the 1500 gallons of 100LL that went through my CJ's > engine last year, I decided to again explore the science of automotive > ethanol blended fuel. I stopped when I read the following on ARCO's site. > > Can I use ARCO's ethanol-blended gasoline in my small aircraft? > No automotive gasoline can be used for refueling aircraft. However, some > pilots and aircraft owners have obtained FAA certificates to use motor gasoline > for their aircraft. Currently, the FAA prohibits the use of ethanol blends for > this application. > > Does anyone know if this applies to Experimental aircraft, and what exactly > are the risks associated with ethanol in our engines? > > Thanks,Blitz > > Byron M. Fox > Mill Valley, CA > Nanchang CJ-6A > N221YK > 415-307-2405 > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:53:12 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Alcohol blends
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net> The BTU content lower, however the Octane rating is higher. One other thing alcohol is hydroscopic, i.e. it loves water. Frank CJ6-A N23021




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