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1. 05:18 AM - Spinners (Frank Haertlein)
2. 05:56 AM - Re: Spinners (KJKimball@aol.com)
3. 06:20 AM - Re: Spinners (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 06:29 AM - Re: Spinners (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 08:07 AM - Re: DOSAAF (SWP013@aol.com)
6. 08:08 AM - Spinners (Joe Howse)
7. 09:13 AM - Re: Spinners (Doug Sapp)
8. 11:11 AM - Stainless Steel Exhaust 285HP CJ6A (Dave Laird)
9. 12:17 PM - Chip detector - Aluminium (Jorgen Nielsen)
10. 12:48 PM - Re: Chip detector - Aluminium (Ernie)
11. 12:49 PM - Re: Chip detector - Aluminium (Bruce Campbell)
12. 03:24 PM - Re: Spinner (cpayne@joimail.com)
13. 04:21 PM - Re: Spinners (Brian Lloyd)
14. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: Spinner (johnlans)
15. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: Spinner (Jim Griffin)
16. 09:05 PM - Re: Spinners (Roger Bieberdorf)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters,
Thinking of getting a spinner for my 52. I'm told this obviates the need
for cowl louvers and helps speed up the plane a little. I have my own
thoughts on the matter but want to get your opinions. Anyone have any
sources on where to get them? I'm considering the unit made for the
Pitts Model 12.
Any thoughts pro or con?
Thanks in advance!
Frank Haertlein
YAK-52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: KJKimball@aol.com
Frank,
The spinner on the Pitts Model 12 is an MT assembly made to fit the MTV9 3
blade hub. If you have an MTV9 3 blade prop and the 14" spinner, it is possible
to switch to the larger model 12 spinner by purchasing the spinner dome,
bulkheads. This spinner is not designed to fit the V-530 prop and to my
knowledge, has not been adapted to a 2 blade prop as of yet.
There are two model 12s flying with the V530 prop and Yak 18 spinner designed
for the 2 blade prop. These are available but hard to find spinners. Maybe
some in the Yak community can help you find one of these if you have the 530
prop.
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
www.jimkimballenterprises.com
www.pittsmodel12.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 2/3/2004 8:57:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
KJKimball@aol.com writes:
>
> There are two model 12s flying with the V530 prop and Yak 18 spinner
> designed
> for the 2 blade prop. These are available but hard to find spinners. Maybe
>
> some in the Yak community can help you find one of these if you have the 530
>
> prop.
The only thing I could had to Kevin's comments. The Yak 18T spinner will
fit, however it's back plate covers up the timing marks on the prop flange. I
end up using a swing weight protractor to set my mags.
Also I would not eliminate the louvers. Although these engine are really
quite tough, shock cooling is still hard any engine.
I don't think you gain much speed with the spinner. It makes sense but I
could not measure it on my M-14p powered CJ-6a.
It sure gives the engine and plane, a mocho look with that big spinner and
thick bladed prop. Not that Curtis's plane doesn't have "the look" to begin
with. :)
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Frank,
If you have the standard Russian V530 paddle prop, the best solution is the
Yak 18T spinner. Retain the cooling louvers regardless of which spinner you
use. Unless of course you choose to use one of the original Les Crowder
designs which if I'm not mistaken, could not be installed if the cooling
louvers were retained.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Spinners
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Yaksters,
> Thinking of getting a spinner for my 52. I'm told this obviates the need
> for cowl louvers and helps speed up the plane a little. I have my own
> thoughts on the matter but want to get your opinions. Anyone have any
> sources on where to get them? I'm considering the unit made for the
> Pitts Model 12.
>
> Any thoughts pro or con?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Frank Haertlein
> YAK-52
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: SWP013@aol.com
Mark,
How do I get a copy?
Sam "SPUD" Patellos
YAK-52 N444YK
Cape Cod, MA, USA
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Joe Howse <joeh@shaw.ca>
We tried one of Les Crowder's spinners on 285HP CJ6 which required removing the
shutters.
Cylinder temp. ran too cold with no increase in speed.
Only plus was it looked great!
Joe Howse
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Lister, lurkers and Kevin,
I carry the Yak 18T spinners (for the V530 prop) in stock.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
KJKimball@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spinners
--> Yak-List message posted by: KJKimball@aol.com
Frank,
The spinner on the Pitts Model 12 is an MT assembly made to fit the MTV9 3
blade hub. If you have an MTV9 3 blade prop and the 14" spinner, it is
possible
to switch to the larger model 12 spinner by purchasing the spinner dome,
bulkheads. This spinner is not designed to fit the V-530 prop and to my
knowledge, has not been adapted to a 2 blade prop as of yet.
There are two model 12s flying with the V530 prop and Yak 18 spinner
designed
for the 2 blade prop. These are available but hard to find spinners. Maybe
some in the Yak community can help you find one of these if you have the 530
prop.
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
www.jimkimballenterprises.com
www.pittsmodel12.com
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| Subject: | Stainless Steel Exhaust 285HP CJ6A |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Hey everyone,
I just got finished putting a new stainless steel exhaust system on my
285HP CJ6A.
I bought it from Doug Sapp and as he promised, it went on really easily.
It is apparently made in the same jigs in which the original exhaust
was built, so the fit was perfect!
So just a little plug for Doug:
Thanks for getting this stuff for us so we can keep 'em flying!
Now if I can only scrounge up some money to add that smoke system....
Dave Laird
N63536 "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | Chip detector - Aluminium |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Hi All
For the engine pros: My yak's chip detector came on a couple days ago.
After pulling filters etc., found some "dust" in oil and a couple tiny
round particles of metal. These could easily be squashed by hand using
flat screwdriver on spanner - metal was therefore soft (aluminium).
Changed oil, cleaned all filters, ran engine on ground for 1/2 hour,
cleaned and checked again, then flew. So far so good. Aircraft just
had annual.
Any ideas where aluminium could come from??
Could the tiny balls be formed by current pasing through ali dust on
chip detector?
Regards
Jorgen
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| Subject: | Re: Chip detector - Aluminium |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Could have been lead.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi All
>
> For the engine pros: My yak's chip detector came on a couple days ago.
> After pulling filters etc., found some "dust" in oil and a couple tiny
> round particles of metal. These could easily be squashed by hand using
> flat screwdriver on spanner - metal was therefore soft (aluminium).
> Changed oil, cleaned all filters, ran engine on ground for 1/2 hour,
> cleaned and checked again, then flew. So far so good. Aircraft just
> had annual.
>
> Any ideas where aluminium could come from??
> Could the tiny balls be formed by current pasing through ali dust on
> chip detector?
>
> Regards
> Jorgen
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Chip detector - Aluminium |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
I think they are probably lead.
Bruce Campbell
Yak52 n82623
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi All
>
> For the engine pros: My yak's chip detector came on a couple days ago.
> After pulling filters etc., found some "dust" in oil and a couple tiny
> round particles of metal. These could easily be squashed by hand using
> flat screwdriver on spanner - metal was therefore soft (aluminium).
> Changed oil, cleaned all filters, ran engine on ground for 1/2 hour,
> cleaned and checked again, then flew. So far so good. Aircraft just
> had annual.
>
> Any ideas where aluminium could come from??
> Could the tiny balls be formed by current pasing through ali dust on
> chip detector?
>
> Regards
> Jorgen
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
Would anyone happen to have one of those Les Crowder
spinners for sale? The ones that doesn't seem to do any
good, according to yak-list wisdom.
Craig Payne
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Frank Haertlein wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Yaksters,
> Thinking of getting a spinner for my 52. I'm told this obviates the need
It will not make your airplane fly any faster and it will not materially affect
cooling so if you remove the louvers your engine will run cool. Do it for the
looks. If the looks are not that important, save your money.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "johnlans" <johnlans@flash.net>
Les has them in stock now. They are the best looking spinner I have seen on
the 52 or CJ.
You can contact Les at SkylanesUS@aol.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Spinner
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> Would anyone happen to have one of those Les Crowder
> spinners for sale? The ones that doesn't seem to do any
> good, according to yak-list wisdom.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
Hey Craig, I've got one on my plane but I sure don't want to sell it. My
cylinder head temps are a little low but the engine still runs great with
600 hrs behind the spinner. I don't think low temps are a problem but rapid
temp changes are. I think the spinner does make it faster but my plane is
light also, so it's hard to tell what contributes the most.
Jim Griffin
CJ6-A 273SC
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Spinner
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
>
> Would anyone happen to have one of those Les Crowder
> spinners for sale? The ones that doesn't seem to do any
> good, according to yak-list wisdom.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Bieberdorf <rogerbyak@yahoo.com>
Hey Brian; did Betty have one of those? And did Betty have the stock 285? If Betty
did have one of those, did you remove the cowl gills; and is that your reference
to the overcooling? If you still have a picture; I would like to see it
again. rb
Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd
Frank Haertlein wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
>
> Yaksters,
> Thinking of getting a spinner for my 52. I'm told this obviates the need
It will not make your airplane fly any faster and it will not materially affect
cooling so if you remove the louvers your engine will run cool. Do it for the
looks. If the looks are not that important, save your money.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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